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The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has contacted Cricket Australia (CA) to play two ODIs in Karachi during their scheduled five-match series in March next year. Pakistan and Australia are scheduled to play five-match ODI series during March 19 to 31 in the United Arab Emirates (UAE).

The PCB officials have proposed CA to play first two ODIs of the series in Karachi, while the rest of the series will be played as per the schedule.

For now, CA hasn’t rejected the proposal and they will send a team to Pakistan to inspect the security measures in the hosting city.

In the last one year, West Indies, Zimbabwe, Sri Lanka and World XI have already toured Pakistan, whereas the country also successfully hosted final of Pakistan Super League (PSL) season two and three along with playoff matches as well. The PCB is now looking to take next step in completely reviving cricket in the country by inviting top cricket-playing nations including Australia and South Africa. With improving law and order situation in the country, the PCB has already announced that Karachi and Lahore will host eight matches including the final of PSL4 next year.
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Link: https://dailytimes.com.pk/308442/pcb-invites-australia-to-play-two-odis-in-pakistan/
 
This is very good news if true. Praying that this actually happens.
 
Australian and NZ will be the last people to travel to pakistan.. chicken hearted
 
Bombs blasts have almost ended in Pak after the ISI went in to Afghanistan taking care of business. Some team has to show courage here and be the first to resume Cricket in Pak. Perhaps we should invite and Ireland or Scotland first to show that Pak is now safe.
 
Near zero chance of happening.

They need to invite Bangladesh and South Africa for a full ODI series first. Afghanistan or India in Pakistan would have been an amazing atmosphere but sadly won't happen due to politics.
 
Tim paine the aus captain have travel with world 11 last year to pak so it might help but very slim chance they will agree
 
Aus avoided touring Pakistan when others were touring. Aus is not likely to tour Pakistan in near future when others are avoiding.
 
Doubt it. S.A. or Eng would travel to Pak (whenever that happens) prior to AU or NZ.
 
This is all lip service stuff - due diligence etc, "hum nay poocha tha un sai" kinda thing.

Really nothing to see, lets move on....
 
todfod 11 said:
Australian and NZ will be the last people to travel to pakistan.. chicken hearted
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And if these two start to tour Pakistan then the rest will follow automatically, barring India of course because of other reasons.
 
If such a tour does even materialize it will be in the line of "if players want to go".

So it might be an Australian B or C team which will end up playing which is pointless.
 
Don't see this happening.

If things go smoothly Bangladesh night tour 2/3 years in the future.
 
Why does PCB go public on this. Why can’t they quitely have a word with CA and see if they are showing any willingness. Of course if CA wants to a send a security team then we can tell everyone. PCB likes to frustrate us all.
 
Don't think this tour will happen but hopefully it does.

I will definitely go for the matches if they take place.
 
gazza619 said:
Why does PCB go public on this. Why can’t they quitely have a word with CA and see if they are showing any willingness. Of course if CA wants to a send a security team then we can tell everyone. PCB likes to frustrate us all.
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And when CA refuse the offer it just adds to the humiliation!
 
MenInG said:
This is all lip service stuff - due diligence etc, "hum nay poocha tha un sai" kinda thing.

Really nothing to see, lets move on....
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Yeah if they were really that serious about it then wouldn’t announce it to the world.
 
It won't happen, but PCB are doing the right thing by requesting teams to tour Pakistan.
 
gazza619 said:
Why does PCB go public on this. Why can’t they quitely have a word with CA and see if they are showing any willingness. Of course if CA wants to a send a security team then we can tell everyone. PCB likes to frustrate us all.
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Where do you see that the PCB went public with this?
 
I can bet my house on Australia declining it. In fact, Australia would be the last team to visit Pakistan.
 
Show baazi from PCB.

Not gonna happen. And ridiculously unprofessional to announce it to the press at this stage!!

Basically this:

gazza619 said:
Why does PCB go public on this. Why can’t they quitely have a word with CA and see if they are showing any willingness. Of course if CA wants to a send a security team then we can tell everyone. PCB likes to frustrate us all.
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Nothing is changing under Ehsan Mani.
 
Executioner said:
Don't see this happening.

If things go smoothly Bangladesh night tour 2/3 years in the future.
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Lol!Bangladesh will be the last country PCB will ever invite and rightly so.We are looking to get the big boys now and South Africa will be the very first to accept the invitation so no thanks!
 
What’s the point? Australia wouldn’t tour Pakistan even if Pakistan was a terrorism free state for 2 consecutive decades
 
The new chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board, Ehsan Mani, has urged Australia to consider a return to the country for the first time in two decades.

An armed attack on the Sri Lanka cricket team's bus in 2009 in Lahore saw Pakistan effectively suspended from hosting international matches, but a handful of teams have returned to play limited-overs series in recent years.


Australia are slated to play five one-day internationals against Pakistan in March with no venues currently locked in to host the series, but Cricket Australia are understood to be cautious about a return to the Asian nation.

The national side hasn't toured Pakistan since 1998, though Test captain Tim Paine did go there as part of a 'World XI' three-match T20 tour last year.

Mani said he'd had discussions with incoming CA chief executive Kevin Roberts, who has been in Abu Dhabi with the Test side, but no formal request has been made to play next year's ODI series in Pakistan.

"Obviously they rely on the (Australian) High Commission’s advice, but a lot of it is a matter of perception," said Mani. "I am yet to meet people who once they've been to Pakistan have any concerns about going there.

"On the sidelines, we've certainly raised this with them, that they should consider this. Obviously Cricket Australia's got a new CEO, he's got to go back and do his due diligence.

"It will certainly happen sooner or later. It's a matter of comfort levels. We are getting PSL matches played in Pakistan, foreign players are coming for that. We've had a couple of other teams come and play, but I really want Australia, New Zealand, England to come.”

The ongoing series in the UAE is the third consecutive Test tour the two sides have played at a neutral venue.

Roberts has been in Abu Dhabi for the second Test and Mani explained they'd had initial discussions about playing in Pakistan.

"We touched on it, but he's not the CEO for another week or so, so it would be unfair to throw this at him," Mani continued. "But he's been around Cricket Australia in various guises for a long time.

"I'm sure he understands the issues. We have a very constructive conversation generally, so I'm sure we can work with him and (chairman) David Peever."

While no Test cricket has been played in Pakistan since the Lahore attack, West Indies, Sri Lanka and Zimbabwe have all travelled there for limited-overs series, while several foreign stars went to Lahore for the final of the Pakistan Super League T20 tournament last year.

The World XI side that played in Lahore that Paine was part of also featured fellow Australians George Bailey and Ben Cutting.

Qantas Tour of the UAE

Australia Test squad: Tim Paine (c), Ashton Agar, Brendan Doggett, Aaron Finch, Travis Head, Jon Holland, Usman Khawaja, Marnus Labuschagne, Nathan Lyon, Mitch Marsh, Shaun Marsh, Michael Neser, Matthew Renshaw, Peter Siddle, Mitchell Starc

Pakistan Test squad: Sarfraz Ahmed (c), Azhar Ali, Fakhar Zaman, Imam-ul-Haq, Babar Azam, Asad Shafiq, Haris Sohail, Usman Salahuddin, Yasir Shah, Shadab Khan, Bilal Asif, Mohammad Abbas, Hasan Ali, Wahab Riaz, Faheem Ashraf, Mir Hamza, Mohammad Rizwan, Mohammad Hafeez

Oct 7-11: First Test, drawn

Oct 16-20: Second Test, Abu Dhabi


https://www.cricket.com.au/news/pak...ia-to-return-to-pakistan-tim-paine/2018-10-17
 
Ehsan Manni looks even more unprofessional than the previous setups.

Why are you going to the media when such sensitive thinngs are not even formalized and finalized?
 
No way Aus is coming to Pakistan. They even skipped tours of Pakistan when things were stable in the country. What makes you think they will be the first top side to play ODI's there?

Not happening. SA, Eng might be the first sides to tour Pak for a proper tour.
 
Australians are just as bad as the Indians when it comes to even entertaining the idea of opening up normal tours with Pakistan.

Pak should concentrate on SA, SL and WI. In particular the saffers, build a time table with regular series, give it a name like ... I dunno...the Kallis-Imran cup, and make a big deal out of it. The two boards and players have often got on well and there is quality cricket to be played.
 
barah_admi said:
Australians are just as bad as the Indians when it comes to even entertaining the idea of opening up normal tours with Pakistan.

Pak should concentrate on SA, SL and WI. In particular the saffers, build a time table with regular series, give it a name like ... I dunno...the Kallis-Imran cup, and make a big deal out of it. The two boards and players have often got on well and there is quality cricket to be played.
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Australia is worse. They won't visit for any good reason. India had valid excuses like strained political ties. For Australia, it's either racism or elitism. If BCCI wasn't so rich, Aus wouldn't visit India either. Both their cricketers and cricket board are highly unlikable bunch.
 
par said:
I am certain India will visit Pakistan before Aus does.
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If political tensions goes down, India definitely will. Australia will only visit Pak if:

1) Pak turns Christian/atheist majority population
2) Get richer like BCCI

None of those two are likely.
 
gazza619 said:
Why does PCB go public on this. Why can’t they quitely have a word with CA and see if they are showing any willingness. Of course if CA wants to a send a security team then we can tell everyone. PCB likes to frustrate us all.
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Hawkeye said:
Ehsan Manni looks even more unprofessional than the previous setups.

Why are you going to the media when such sensitive thinngs are not even formalized and finalized?
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Probably in an effort to show to the public that they are doing something. Talking behind closed doors amounts to jot if the answer is an expected 'no' as it would be with a country like Australia.

So they are trying to extract as much mileage out of it as possible until the inevitable 'no' comes.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
If such a tour does even materialize it will be in the line of "if players want to go".

So it might be an Australian B or C team which will end up playing which is pointless.
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Wouldn't be pointless at all, I'd be delighted if Australian C team toured Pakistan in the near future. It would be a huge breakthrough.

But that's not happening either.
 
Whats holding us back is India and BD collusion in isolating Pakistan. If Asian teams toured it would give more confidence to others. Right now its western teams or nothing.
 
Flat_Track_Bully said:
Whats holding us back is India and BD collusion in isolating Pakistan. If Asian teams toured it would give more confidence to others. Right now its western teams or nothing.
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Nonsense. BD invited Pakistan many times, why didn't Pakistan invite BD to UAE? It's because Pak doesn't respect BD team. Now BCB has become rich enough it doesn't need Pakistan. Pakistan was hurt by ego.

BD still invited Zimbabwe after all these years, Zimbabwe is now on associate level.
 
The impact of the Cape Town cheating scandal was global and its ripples were obvious but also obscure.

Just ask the Pakistan Cricket Board.

The PCB was desperate to host Aaron Finch's team for at least some portion of this year's ODI series, a key tune-up for the sides facing off in Wednesday's World Cup clash.

Instead, it was played entirely in front of largely vacant stands in the UAE.

The prospect of Australia touring Pakistan for the first time since 1998 was floated but ultimately never came close to fruition.

There was no old-school obstinance from Cricket Australia (CA), whose refusal to tour on safety grounds came prior to its security chief Sean Carroll's inspection of arrangements at the Pakistan Super League (PSL) final in Karachi that featured Shane Watson.

Rather, the PCB sensed new chairman Earl Eddings and chief executive Kevin Roberts were seemingly busy putting CA's own house in order following a scathing independent review.

"What didn't help was the change of chairman and CEO," PCB managing director Wasim Khan told AAP during the ODI series in March.

"That didn't add to the sort of dialogue and communication that perhaps should have taken place. Because they had other things on their mind, maybe the easiest thing was to say 'not this time but we'll consider it next time'.

"The timing wasn't ideal.

"The level of expectation on both sides was also probably different. We would have loved Sean Carroll to come over and look at what we'd put in place. Them showing us the courtesy of doing a recce ... Sean making his own judgment on our security.

"It was disappointing that didn't happen.

"CA said they'd consulted with Canberra, who'd not been very positive about the team touring. I don't know how much dialogue took place with the High Commission in Pakistan, I think it was a silo decision and of course saying no is always going to be the easiest option."

Carroll was on deck for the PSL final in March but CA's decision had already been made, with Australia's next away series against Pakistan slated for 2022.

The boards' relationship remained sound despite the setback, as evidenced by Pakistan later agreeing to play a day-night Test in Adelaide this summer.

CA made it clear, publicly and privately, that it wants international cricket returning to Pakistan but the safety of players and staff is of paramount importance.

Finch echoed that sentiment in Taunton this week, suggesting he'd "love" to play in Pakistan but it was up to boards to decide whether it's now safe enough to tour.

Determining whether Pakistan, scene of a 2009 terrorist attack in which Sri Lanka's team bus was attacked by 12 gunmen outside Lahore's Gaddafi Stadium, is safe to tour is obviously a complex call.

Watson, Carroll and Test skipper Tim Paine, who toured Pakistan in 2017 as part of a World XI, are among the few Australians with first-hand insights.

"I spoke with Sean (after the PSL final). He was happy with the plans, implementation ... comfortable," Khan said.

"As with most things, there are always areas we can be better at but they're not major things.

"We are absolutely confident with security measures."

Khan, the first British-born Muslim to play county cricket and a former chief executive of county Leicestershire, has achieved much since joining the PCB in 2018 but regular international fixtures at home remains an unfulfilled priority.

There is a literal cost to playing so much cricket in the UAE, with Khan noting "we can't keep forking our the amount of money we do ... it's not sustainable", but also a stack of opportunity costs.

"It's heartbreaking to see some of our players debut at empty stadiums in a home series, rather than full houses," he said.

"We need to make sure cricket grows in Pakistan. That international teams tour, local heroes play and inspire the next generation.

"A few years ago, people talked about the demise of the West Indies and how important it is for world cricket collectively to get together and help.

"Now it's our turn ... we need that support, come back to Pakistan and play."

https://au.sports.yahoo.com/pakista...zzT37l8gl888ag8vIMtqVIX-PYuG2gXA&guccounter=2
 
Joseph Gomes said:
Australia is worse. They won't visit for any good reason. India had valid excuses like strained political ties. For Australia, it's either racism or elitism. If BCCI wasn't so rich, Aus wouldn't visit India either. Both their cricketers and cricket board are highly unlikable bunch.
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Yet Australia did and has always visited India, even when they were not rich.

If Australia cricketers and cricket board are highly unlikable bunch then why are they being invited to visit. Dont be invite someone to visit if you dont even want them to.

Australia do have strained political ties with Pakistan, we have refugees here in Australia from Pakistan that cannot return to Pakistan because they will be killed because of religious beliefs and or political beliefs so you tell me who is the racist and who think they are elitist.
 
Gilly said:
Yet Australia did and has always visited India, even when they were not rich.

If Australia cricketers and cricket board are highly unlikable bunch then why are they being invited to visit. Dont be invite someone to visit if you dont even want them to.

Australia do have strained political ties with Pakistan, we have refugees here in Australia from Pakistan that cannot return to Pakistan because they will be killed because of religious beliefs and or political beliefs so you tell me who is the racist and who think they are elitist.
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I don't think its got anything to do with strained political ties. Its to do with safety issues. Pakistan has to become a "normal" country in terms of terrorism before countries like australia and england will tour again. I have no doubts when this eventually occurs(not likely any time soon) then these teams will love to tour pakistan.
 
Captain caveman said:
I don't think its got anything to do with strained political ties. Its to do with safety issues. Pakistan has to become a "normal" country in terms of terrorism before countries like australia and england will tour again. I have no doubts when this eventually occurs(not likely any time soon) then these teams will love to tour pakistan.
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What do you define as "normal"? Casualties due to terrorism and the number of terrorist attacks is about 80-90% down from what it used to be when the Sri Lankan team was attacked. The numbers are even lower than when teams used to tour Pakistan regularly, long before terrorism issues.
 
ahsan17 said:
What do you define as "normal"? Casualties due to terrorism and the number of terrorist attacks is about 80-90% down from what it used to be when the Sri Lankan team was attacked. The numbers are even lower than when teams used to tour Pakistan regularly, long before terrorism issues.
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Its not normal to cordon of a large part of a city just for a cricket match. To have heavy military, paramilitary and police presence for the safety of the players and coaching staff.
For players to be confined to the ground and hotel.
These things are not "normal"!
 
Captain caveman said:
I don't think its got anything to do with strained political ties. Its to do with safety issues. Pakistan has to become a "normal" country in terms of terrorism before countries like australia and england will tour again. I have no doubts when this eventually occurs(not likely any time soon) then these teams will love to tour pakistan.
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Clearance for sporting tours are different in each country, CA do not make the final decision about touring.

For Australia to tour Pakistan it requires the government to clear Pakistan as a safe country to tour, if CA were to disregard the advice of the government and something did go wrong then CA would be sued for every penny they have and then some completely bankrupting cricket in australia and pushing cricket back at least 20 years. The risk is far to great.

Some of the things that the government will look at is how quick they could evacuate Australia citizens should they need to. Having access to aircraft, permission to use airspace as required, people on the ground to organize evacuations (not just for attacks but also natural disasters and any other emergency that may arise). This requires close and trusting relationships between the countries governments.

The reluctance of Aus cricket to tour Pakistan is independent of CA and the players.
 
Captain caveman said:
Its not normal to cordon of a large part of a city just for a cricket match. To have heavy military, paramilitary and police presence for the safety of the players and coaching staff.
For players to be confined to the ground and hotel.
These things are not "normal"!
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That is necessary to make the players feel safe. It's either that or they don't visit. Even if statistically Pakistan is safe now (just check how tourism has exploded in the last 12 months), the legacy of Sri Lankan team attack will cause other cricketers to not feel safe unless they have this extraordinary security.
 
ahsan17 said:
That is necessary to make the players feel safe. It's either that or they don't visit. Even if statistically Pakistan is safe now (just check how tourism has exploded in the last 12 months), the legacy of Sri Lankan team attack will cause other cricketers to not feel safe unless they have this extraordinary security.
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This reminded me of a trip to Alaska to see bears, I was out in a boat with a lady from America and while talking about gun laws in our respective countries and she told me she was carrying a gun. I told her that I didnt feel safe knowing there was a gun on board and she said she wouldent feel safe if there was no gun.

Difference being some feel safe when there are guns and some feel unsafe when there are guns. Its just what you are used of. Australians dont generally feel safe when guns are around.
 
Gilly said:
Clearance for sporting tours are different in each country, CA do not make the final decision about touring.

For Australia to tour Pakistan it requires the government to clear Pakistan as a safe country to tour, if CA were to disregard the advice of the government and something did go wrong then CA would be sued for every penny they have and then some completely bankrupting cricket in australia and pushing cricket back at least 20 years. The risk is far to great.

Some of the things that the government will look at is how quick they could evacuate Australia citizens should they need to. Having access to aircraft, permission to use airspace as required, people on the ground to organize evacuations (not just for attacks but also natural disasters and any other emergency that may arise). This requires close and trusting relationships between the countries governments.

The reluctance of Aus cricket to tour Pakistan is independent of CA and the players.
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Obviously, every country has a government list of countries to avoid travelling to, for safety reasons.
If/when pakistan's safety issues are resolved then it will not appear on this list.
Dont know how many countries have actually listed pakistan on this list.
In the uk, i think the government advise is if you travel to pakistan, exhibit caution
 
Gilly said:
This reminded me of a trip to Alaska to see bears, I was out in a boat with a lady from America and while talking about gun laws in our respective countries and she told me she was carrying a gun. I told her that I didnt feel safe knowing there was a gun on board and she said she wouldent feel safe if there was no gun.

Difference being some feel safe when there are guns and some feel unsafe when there are guns. Its just what you are used of. Australians dont generally feel safe when guns are around.
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If those polar bears were to attack, l bet you would be happy that ,that lady had a gun!
 
ahsan17 said:
That is necessary to make the players feel safe. It's either that or they don't visit. Even if statistically Pakistan is safe now (just check how tourism has exploded in the last 12 months), the legacy of Sri Lankan team attack will cause other cricketers to not feel safe unless they have this extraordinary security.
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To repair your reputation takes years.
Even if pak is completely safe now(which it is not) it will still take years for your average person to feel confident to travel.
 
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