PCB To Challenge IPL's Proposed Extended Window At ICC Meet

[silentkiller187]

The PCB's decision to officially challenge the decision comes weeks after BCCI secretary, Jay Shah, in an exclusive interview to PTI said that the Indian board will be getting an extended window for the IPL in the ICC's next FTP cycle starting from 2024 till 2031.

Feeling "short-changed", the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has decided to challenge the proposed two-and-a-half month expanded window for the Indian Premier League. PCB chairman Ramiz Raja said that the issue will be raised at the next ICC conference. "There has been no announcement or decision as yet on the IPL window being increased. I will give my views on this issue at the ICC conference," Raja said during a media conference here on Friday.

"My point is clear: if there is any development in world cricket that means we are being short-changed, we will challenge it in a very forceful manner and put our point across strongly in the ICC," he said.

The PCB's decision to officially challenge the decision comes weeks after BCCI secretary, Jay Shah, in an exclusive interview to PTI said that the Indian board will be getting an extended window for the IPL in the ICC's next FTP cycle starting from 2024 till 2031.

"From the next FTP cycle, IPL will have an official two-and-a-half-month window so that all the top international cricketers can participate. We have had discussions with various boards as well as the ICC," Shah had told PTI.

Raja also said that while Pakistan is keen on playing India, the political equation between the neighbours continues to act as roadblocks.

"I have spoken to Saurav (Ganguly) on the sidelines on this and I told him that presently there are three former cricketers heading their cricket boards and if they can't make a difference who will?," Raja said.

Pakistan Cricket Board To Challenge IPL's Proposed Extended Window At ICC MeetThe PCB's decision to officially challenge the decision comes weeks after BCCI secretary, Jay Shah, in an exclusive interview to PTI said that the Indian board will be getting an extended window for the IPL in the ICC's next FTP cycle starting from 2024 till 2031.Press Trust of IndiaUpdated: June 24, 2022 03:04 PM ISTRead Time:2 min

Pakistan Cricket Board To Challenge IPL's Proposed Extended Window At ICC Meet
PCB chairman Ramiz Raja© AFP
Feeling "short-changed", the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has decided to challenge the proposed two-and-a-half month expanded window for the Indian Premier League. PCB chairman Ramiz Raja said that the issue will be raised at the next ICC conference. "There has been no announcement or decision as yet on the IPL window being increased. I will give my views on this issue at the ICC conference," Raja said during a media conference here on Friday.

"My point is clear: if there is any development in world cricket that means we are being short-changed, we will challenge it in a very forceful manner and put our point across strongly in the ICC," he said.

The PCB's decision to officially challenge the decision comes weeks after BCCI secretary, Jay Shah, in an exclusive interview to PTI said that the Indian board will be getting an extended window for the IPL in the ICC's next FTP cycle starting from 2024 till 2031.

"From the next FTP cycle, IPL will have an official two-and-a-half-month window so that all the top international cricketers can participate. We have had discussions with various boards as well as the ICC," Shah had told PTI.

Raja also said that while Pakistan is keen on playing India, the political equation between the neighbours continues to act as roadblocks.

"I have spoken to Saurav (Ganguly) on the sidelines on this and I told him that presently there are three former cricketers heading their cricket boards and if they can't make a difference who will?," Raja said.

"Twice Ganguly has invited me to attend the IPL finals last year and this year and cricketing wise it made sense to go, but then, because of the situation, we had to look at the fallout of accepting the invitations," he added.

https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/pak...-proposed-extended-window-at-icc-meet-3096656

 

[sweep_shot]

Good on PCB. All boards should challenge it.

IPL is hijacking international cricket.

 

[Rana]

Good on PCB. All boards should challenge it.

IPL is hijacking international cricket.

Why would all boards challenge it?

They will be making a good chunk from the players they have managed to sell to the IPL

 

[Savak]

This will be what you call a Hamakat. Have the PCB not learnt from the Big 3 experience in 2014. No board will dare to stand up to the BCCI

 

[Mobashir]

Why would all boards challenge it?

They will be making a good chunk from the players they have managed to sell to the IPL

What are the official numbers?
How does a board make money if their player plays in the IPL?

 

[Rajdeep]

Ramiz has made it a habbit of making it public what he is going to discuss in next ICC meeting. Once the meeting is over, we never get to hear the outcome.

What happened to his previous proposal of annual T20 tournament between Ind, Pak, Aus and Eng in last ICC meeting? What was the outcome?

 

[Rana]

What are the official numbers?
How does a board make money if their player plays in the IPL?

There is a percentage of the contract money that is paid to the board. Why do you think every board bows down to BCCI?

 

[shujaatraza]

There is a percentage of the contract money that is paid to the board. Why do you think every board bows down to BCCI?

Will that number be greater than the revenue achieved by hosting a 3 match t-20 series for any country? Even assuming England and Australia have 15 players each playing IPL.

 

[Rana]

Will that number be greater than the revenue achieved by hosting a 3 match t-20 series for any country? Even assuming England and Australia have 15 players each playing IPL.

They will get that anyways with BCCI giving them home and away tours in the remaining 9 and half months.

So they will make big revenue from their bilateral series and also decent income in the 2 and half months if their centrally contracted players can bag a decent contract in the auction.

BCCI has all the boards snookered.

 

[Rana]

Let’s say the ECB is successful in having 6-7 players with +$500k contracts in the IPL, out of which they manage to bag $1m for themselves,

That’s around £600-700k which is very useful money that can be injected into the grassroots cricket. This is why we have seen a rise in programs such as All stars and Dynamos which are exposing children as young as 5 years old to cricket in a very friendly atmosphere.

It’s a win win for the ECB. Not sure how this works for the other boards

 

[Mamoon]

Good, it has been a while since BCCI gave PCB a reality check and reminded them of their auqaat.

 

[U$ofA]

Good on PCB. All boards should challenge it.

IPL is hijacking international cricket.

No it's not. The ICC is hijacking international cricket. How do you think the IPL window came into existence? The ICC is the one that signed into "law" the IPL window. It has ICC fingerprints all over it.

 

[U$ofA]

Will that number be greater than the revenue achieved by hosting a 3 match t-20 series for any country? Even assuming England and Australia have 15 players each playing IPL.

It may, or may not be. But the BCCI tour that will follow will be priceless.

 

[Rana]

Good, it has been a while since BCCI gave PCB a reality check and reminded them of their auqaat.

Like they do in every World Cup and ICC events when their Jawaans are being butchered on the border apparently

 

[cricketjoshila]

PCB to challenge IPL's proposed extended window at ICC meet

Feeling "short-changed", the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has decided to challenge the proposed two-and-a-half month expanded window for the Indian Premier League.

PCB chairman Ramiz Raja said that the issue will be raised at the next ICC conference.

There has been no announcement or decision as yet on the IPL window being increased. I will give my views on this issue at the ICC conference," Raja said during a media conference on Friday.

"My point is clear: if there is any development in world cricket that means we are being short-changed, we will challenge it in a very forceful manner and put our point across strongly in the ICC," he said.

The PCB's decision to officially challenge the decision comes weeks after BCCI secretary, Jay Shah, in an exclusive interview to PTI said that the Indian board will be getting an extended window for the IPL in the ICC's next FTP cycle starting from 2024 till 2031.

"From the next FTP cycle, IPL will have an official two-and-a-half-month window so that all the top international cricketers can participate. We have had discussions with various boards as well as the ICC," Shah had told PTI.

Raja also said that while Pakistan is keen on playing India, the political equation between the neighbours continues to act as roadblocks.

"I have spoken to Saurav (Ganguly) on the sidelines on this and I told him that presently there are three former cricketers heading their cricket boards and if they can't make a difference who will?," Raja said.

"Twice Ganguly has invited me to attend the IPL finals last year and this year and cricketing wise it made sense to go, but then, because of the situation, we had to look at the fallout of accepting the invitations," he added.


www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/pcb-...d-window-at-icc-meet-101656065505599-amp.html

 

[Rana]

No it's not. The ICC is hijacking international cricket. How do you think the IPL window came into existence? The ICC is the one that signed into "law" the IPL window. It has ICC fingerprints all over it.

What do you expect ICC to do? Say no to BCCI and become bankrupt?

 

[Major]

Like they do in every World Cup and ICC events when their Jawaans are being butchered on the border apparently

Poor and pathetic post

 

[Rana]

Poor and pathetic post

What have i said that is incorrect?

Why does the BCCI allow its players to play Pakistan in world cups? Do the countries stop fighting during ICC tournaments?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Will that number be greater than the revenue achieved by hosting a 3 match t-20 series for any country? Even assuming England and Australia have 15 players each playing IPL.

Will depend on who is touring? ECB said some years ago, that their revenue to expenses ratio is in surplus only in the years when Ashes or India tours take place.

CA has said the same.

 

[U$ofA]

What do you expect ICC to do? Say no to BCCI and become bankrupt?

It's well known that the ICC has no backbone.

What I am trying to point out is that the ICC is the reason for the IPL window. Not the IPL.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

This will be what you call a Hamakat. Have the PCB not learnt from the Big 3 experience in 2014. No board will dare to stand up to the BCCI

Pakistan has nothing to lose here. What will BCCI do? Cancel a bilateral test series against Pakistan lol?

 

[Moeey]

Pakistan has nothing to lose here. What will BCCI do? Cancel a bilateral test series against Pakistan lol?

Why fight a losing battle. We should give up and just focus on psl.

 

[U$ofA]

Pakistan has nothing to lose here. What will BCCI do? Cancel a bilateral test series against Pakistan lol?

Isn't the PCB going to ask questions of the ICC? BCCI has nothing to do here. Sure, Shah jumped the gun and let it loose. But this is an ICC sanctioned window. Not BCCI.

 

[moghul]

Some people just like to criticize for the sake of it. What should Ramiz do, just keep mum on something ridiculous which is not good for Pakistan. He has to try his best to stop this nonsense, long break of international cricket for one country's tamasha cricket.

Well done Ramiz, go for it.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Some people just like to criticize for the sake of it. What should Ramiz do, just keep mum on something ridiculous which is not good for Pakistan. He has to try his best to stop this nonsense, long break of international cricket for one country's tamasha cricket.

Well done Ramiz, go for it.

Who is stopping pakistan from playing? But pakistan cannot stop others from participating in the IPL.

 

[Saj]

I'm afraid that the PCB will most likely be banging their head on a brick wall regarding this issue.

I doubt they'll get much leeway from ICC or the other Boards, as the Boards make good money from their players playing in the IPL.

1 month, 2 months, 3 months - I doubt there will be any objections to the length of the IPL.

 

[James]

IPL going to end up as a full season I think.

 

[U$ofA]

I'm afraid that the PCB will most likely be banging their head on a brick wall regarding this issue.

I doubt they'll get much leeway from ICC or the other Boards, as the Boards make good money from their players playing in the IPL.

1 month, 2 months, 3 months - I doubt there will be any objections to the length of the IPL.

It boggles me that PCB would do this. They are going to bring this up with the very entity that created and approved the IPL window and the boards who seconded the motion and nodded their approval in unition.

What result does the PCB expect? What exactly are they accomplishing other than patting themselves on their own back?

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

PCB should file a court case as well to fight off this battle with BCCI and ask for compensation of losing potential money due to IPL taking away Pakistan cricket window.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

The gesture is symbolic. It will not lead to immediate result.

But it is important.

When one is up against absolute power, one should never underestimate the significance of such small gestures. They add up. They give voice to the voiceless. They show that one doesn't bow down to an absolute wrong.

My own assessment of IPL (and I may be wrong) is that 90% of its watchers are ethnic Indians, howsoever you define them (in India and abroad) and not many outside.

It is not like EPL or La Liga with the whole world wearing Messi or Ronaldo shirts. No one is wearing Dhoni or Kohli shirts outside of ethnic Indians. Therefore, for the good of the game, to give a quarter of the year to one group, just because of money, is to the detriment of the wider sport.

The stance is right, even if extremely weak.

And therefore important that protest be recorded.

 

[Shaddy86]

Teams like England and Aus can afford to send their players to IPL and still have a strong enough Test XI to continue international cricket. It's only Pakistan that plays most of it's players in all formats of the game others have test specialist. If Aus and Eng continue to hold onto some of their premium players then Pakistan can look to play more tests against them. The real problem is that not a lot of Pakistanis care about test cricket and it all comes down to the money generated. If Tests in Pakistan attracted similar crowds to Eng and Aus then there would be nothing to worry about.

 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

It is not like EPL or La Liga with the whole world wearing Messi or Ronaldo shirts. No one is wearing Dhoni or Kohli shirts outside of ethnic Indians. Therefore, for the good of the game, to give a quarter of the year to one group, just because of money, is to the detriment of the wider sport.

Look at it the other way. If there truly are cricket-starved fans out there craving for cricket during that window, they will have no choice but to watch the IPL, and that way IPL's non-Indian viewer base will grow and hence they will make even more money over time from international markets. So there will be a situation where non-Indians are following IPL too.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Considering that Bcci doesn't even have the money for DRS and hence no effect on ICC decisions.
I think PCB can definitely win this one atleast.
Support PCB on this, don't want ti watch IPL for 2 months, at most 1 month window should be given.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Do other leagues have a special window? ICC should let other boards have their window too. Let them all kill international cricket together.

 

[Rajdeep]

Do other leagues have a special window? ICC should let other boards have their window too. Let them all kill international cricket together.

There is no reason for ICC to give special window to other leagues. No one is going to skip playing for their country to play in leagues like PSL, BBL, the Hundreds etc. It is bcoz neither these leagues pay as much nor as prestigious to threatened ICC.

But IPL is a different ball game all together. ICC knows that in a direct tussle with IPL...there is only 1 winner. 90% of world's players would skip international game and will play in IPL. So ICC had no option but to give it a special window to save face.

 

[The cricket enthusiast]

Do it No one here in India is interested in sucha long IPL when i say no one I'm speaking for all the cricket fans i know from my place and on my social media accounts .
All of us usually switched on the tv in second innings if we feel it's gonna get to the nail biting finish and there's no loyal support for a particular team im from Karnataka so just for the sake of being our city most of my friends support Bangalore & some Kolkata because of SRK one and half month is enough for this drama .

 

[cricketjoshila]

The gesture is symbolic. It will not lead to immediate result.

But it is important.

When one is up against absolute power, one should never underestimate the significance of such small gestures. They add up. They give voice to the voiceless. They show that one doesn't bow down to an absolute wrong.

My own assessment of IPL (and I may be wrong) is that 90% of its watchers are ethnic Indians, howsoever you define them (in India and abroad) and not many outside.

It is not like EPL or La Liga with the whole world wearing Messi or Ronaldo shirts. No one is wearing Dhoni or Kohli shirts outside of ethnic Indians. Therefore, for the good of the game, to give a quarter of the year to one group, just because of money, is to the detriment of the wider sport.

The stance is right, even if extremely weak.

And therefore important that protest be recorded.

PCB is trying to protest for whom? If all other boards want to be part of the IPL then how can PCB protest against this? The other boards have their rights. No? Or has PCB subsumed those rights?

Since PCB is not part of the IPL, they are free to engage with any board that is interested to play cricket.

The PCB cannot claim to have the right to play X at Y time.

 

[U$ofA]

Teams like England and Aus can afford to send their players to IPL and still have a strong enough Test XI to continue international cricket. It's only Pakistan that plays most of it's players in all formats of the game others have test specialist. If Aus and Eng continue to hold onto some of their premium players then Pakistan can look to play more tests against them. The real problem is that not a lot of Pakistanis care about test cricket and it all comes down to the money generated. If Tests in Pakistan attracted similar crowds to Eng and Aus then there would be nothing to worry about.

All evidence to the contrary on this forum. But then, I have been told that this forum is an echo chamber for the small percentage of test fans that remain.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

PCB is trying to protest for whom? If all other boards want to be part of the IPL then how can PCB protest against this? The other boards have their rights. No? Or has PCB subsumed those rights?

Since PCB is not part of the IPL, they are free to engage with any board that is interested to play cricket.

The PCB cannot claim to have the right to play X at Y time.

First of, this keyboard warrior style of debate is not my forte. Let's stick to arguments.

Here is my submission: I feel other boards are forced to give up space for IPL window because otherwise, they will lose their players to IPL money. It is certainly not by choice. All of these boards have resisted as much as they could at one time or another until the money won out.

It is also not like IPL money is being shared amongst all boards whose players are participating or it is being spent for betterment of the game.

IPL benefits India only. Correct me.

As for PCB: As a board that is excluded rom playing cricket international in that window because other country's players are busy in IPL, PCB has every right to protest. They of course could arrange red ball series or white ball series with lesser players from other team (i.e. play tests against Australia minus Hazelwood, Cummins, Smith etc), but it disrespects the game.

Nothing wrong with money in sport at all. it has led to many good things in every game - football, cricket, tennis, baseball, basketball etc.

But for all boards, to give up the sport for a quarter of the year, to one country, for the sake of money, playing a vastly inferior form of the game for this long, for the benefit of one group of people (and some players)...I see plenty of reasons to protest.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

Look at it the other way. If there truly are cricket-starved fans out there craving for cricket during that window, they will have no choice but to watch the IPL, and that way IPL's non-Indian viewer base will grow and hence they will make even more money over time from international markets. So there will be a situation where non-Indians are following IPL too.

...so force people to like IPL . Personally, and it is entirely subjective (since I don't have ethnicity numbers), I have found all domestic cricket leagues from any country only watched by people of that country. it's been 15 odd seasons of IPL and many seasons of other leagues and this has not changed. You can't buy loyalty and love with money. All football teams in Europe started with fairytales of hardship and struggles. There is no such story to any cricket league.

Even more controversial, I don't see any domestic cricket league acquiring a fraction of status of EPL. T20 is an inferior product and after a while, it becomes too much of a muchness. Despite high viewership for IPL, PSL etc, I see them plateauing and going down season after season.

I could be far off. But I have always felt only people who think cricket started after 2010 think test cricket is in trouble. It needs help, but without it, all cricket will die.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

All evidence to the contrary on this forum. But then, I have been told that this forum is an echo chamber for the small percentage of test fans that remain.

On the contrary, I see this forum overwhelmed with posters predicting demise of test cricket for years.

 

[cricketjoshila]

First of, this keyboard warrior style of debate is not my forte. Let's stick to arguments.

Here is my submission: I feel other boards are forced to give up space for IPL window because otherwise, they will lose their players to IPL money. It is certainly not by choice. All of these boards have resisted as much as they could at one time or another until the money won out.

It is also not like IPL money is being shared amongst all boards whose players are participating or it is being spent for betterment of the game.

IPL benefits India only. Correct me.

As for PCB: As a board that is excluded rom playing cricket international in that window because other country's players are busy in IPL, PCB has every right to protest. They of course could arrange red ball series or white ball series with lesser players from other team (i.e. play tests against Australia minus Hazelwood, Cummins, Smith etc), but it disrespects the game.

Nothing wrong with money in sport at all. it has led to many good things in every game - football, cricket, tennis, baseball, basketball etc.

But for all boards, to give up the sport for a quarter of the year, to one country, for the sake of money, playing a vastly inferior form of the game for this long, for the benefit of one group of people (and some players)...I see plenty of reasons to protest.

Firstly its your opinion that boards are forced. On the contrary they are willingly participating. Aus SA NZ has no home series at that time. Neither does WI or SL. The only team that has had to make any adjustments is England as this is the English season time.

For decades the English summer was devoid of any other cricket except the county and English home season as most cricketers went to play the counties. Just that now IPL is also played during the same time. So if players going to County was no problem why IPL be singled out?

All boards receive 20 per cent of the amount that their players receive as salary. So if a non indian player gets a million his board received 200k. So yes the IPL money is being shared. Players get monetary security too.

All boards have the right to decide when and who they want to play? PCB doesn't have the right to demand that they get to play X team during Y month. Because thats what PCB seems to think.

The boards are happy. The players are happy. Seems only pakistani fans and a section of other fans are unhappy. The only reason PCB is protesting is because:

1. The IPL is an Indian tournament.
2. Pakistan is excluded from the riches.
3. Rameez Raja is on a fishing trip to see if he can get someone to support his dead on arrival quadrangular tournament.

 

[Saj]

Do other leagues have a special window? ICC should let other boards have their window too. Let them all kill international cricket together.

The problem is other boards don't have the clout that BCCI has.

Imagine if PCB asked ICC for a window, they'd be told to wake up and move on.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The problem is other boards don't have the clout that BCCI has.

Imagine if PCB asked ICC for a window, they'd be told to wake up and move on.

BCCI got a window because the players are very well paid and the boards get a commission.

If PCB or another board can match or exceed that, make no mistake, players and boards will come to them.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Do it No one here in India is interested in sucha long IPL when i say no one I'm speaking for all the cricket fans i know from my place and on my social media accounts .
All of us usually switched on the tv in second innings if we feel it's gonna get to the nail biting finish and there's no loyal support for a particular team im from Karnataka so just for the sake of being our city most of my friends support Bangalore & some Kolkata because of SRK one and half month is enough for this drama .

Thanks for speaking the bitter truth.

 

[Mp812]

Do other leagues have a special window? ICC should let other boards have their window too. Let them all kill international cricket together.

Other boards can put in a request and ICC will decide on case to case basis.
PCB will be asking for PSL window and your wish may possibly just be granted.
Practically speaking PCB can arrange a test series during IPL time with anyone( Eng,Aus,Nz..xyz) and only a couple of players who play IPL may be missing at worst.
Most of players will prioritize country over IPL and test match over T20. Right?

 

[Mp812]

The problem is other boards don't have the clout that BCCI has.

Imagine if PCB asked ICC for a window, they'd be told to wake up and move on.

Lol On a funny note...If they ask for a window...they may get the door shown to them

 

[shamaan]

Teams like England and Aus can afford to send their players to IPL and still have a strong enough Test XI to continue international cricket. It's only Pakistan that plays most of it's players in all formats of the game others have test specialist. If Aus and Eng continue to hold onto some of their premium players then Pakistan can look to play more tests against them. The real problem is that not a lot of Pakistanis care about test cricket and it all comes down to the money generated. If Tests in Pakistan attracted similar crowds to Eng and Aus then there would be nothing to worry about.

England test xi is just above ok so I don't expect thier second xi to be any good.

 

[MenInG]

As per news reports:

Ramiz Raja will travel to England tomorrow where he will attend International Cricket Council (ICC) and Marylebone Cricket Club (MCC) meetings.

Ramiz is expected to meet Ganguly, McCullum and other former counterparts on the sidelines of MCC meeting.

From July 23-26, ICC Cricket Committee's annual meeting will take place. PCB chairman will be accompanied by CEO Faisal Hasnain.

According to the sources, Future Tours Program (FTP) and free-window for Indian Premier League (IPL) will be on meeting agenda. Meanwhile, Raja will further push his four-nation series idea.

PCB chairman will meet chairman of other cricket boards to discuss the idea of tri-nation series. England and New Zealand's upcoming tour of Pakistan this year will also be discussed on the sidelines of the meeting.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Ravi Shastri had said that bilaterals should only be tests and that T20's and ODIs should only be played in World Cups. It would be a fine solution except that there is no 50 over equivalent of the IPL. I think it's the end of ODI cricket at any rate

 

[cricketjoshila]

Ravi Shastri had said that bilaterals should only be tests and that T20's and ODIs should only be played in World Cups. It would be a fine solution except that there is no 50 over equivalent of the IPL. I think it's the end of ODI cricket at any rate

ODI WC and ODI format is secured till 2031.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Rameez Raja is trying his utmost to get that 4 nation on. Problem is India will not participate at any cost. England is busy from May to September. Australia,NZ,SA will be busy from October to Feb mar. April and May is IPL time.

 

[MenInG]

As per news reports:

Ramiz Raja will travel to England tomorrow where he will attend International Cricket Council (ICC) and Marylebone Cricket Club (MCC) meetings.

Ramiz is expected to meet Ganguly, McCullum and other former counterparts on the sidelines of MCC meeting.

From July 23-26, ICC Cricket Committee's annual meeting will take place. PCB chairman will be accompanied by CEO Faisal Hasnain.

According to the sources, Future Tours Program (FTP) and free-window for Indian Premier League (IPL) will be on meeting agenda. Meanwhile, Raja will further push his four-nation series idea.

PCB chairman will meet chairman of other cricket boards to discuss the idea of tri-nation series. England and New Zealand's upcoming tour of Pakistan this year will also be discussed on the sidelines of the meeting.

Nothing will come of it.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Ravi Shastri had said that bilaterals should only be tests and that T20's and ODIs should only be played in World Cups. It would be a fine solution except that there is no 50 over equivalent of the IPL. I think it's the end of ODI cricket at any rate

Ravi Shastri gave that dumb statement thinking about only India and IPL. Maybe he was drunk when he gave that statement. How can you expect players to start playing in the ODI world cup without any experience of playing it in bilaterals lol?

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Ravi Shastri gave that dumb statement thinking about only India and IPL. Maybe he was drunk when he gave that statement. How can you expect players to start playing in the ODI world cup without any experience of playing it in bilaterals lol?

That's my point. ODI bilaterals will have to take place otherwise there's no point in playing ODI world cup . T20 bilaterals can be done away with maybe.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

That's my point. ODI bilaterals will have to take place otherwise there's no point in playing ODI world cup . T20 bilaterals can be done away with maybe.

Why should countries like Ireland, Holland, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Afghanistan, Zimbabwe etc stop playing T20 bilaterals? How many of their players play in IPL? As I said earlier some selfish people only think about themselves and not about cricket as a whole. If India is finding it tough to schedule bilaterals then they should only play it in World Cups. Why should others stop playing bilaterals? It doesn't make any sense. The length of IPL should be shortened. This way some players will get enough rest before international fixtures.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Why should countries like Ireland, Holland, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Afghanistan, Zimbabwe etc stop playing T20 bilaterals? How many of their players play in IPL? As I said earlier some selfish people only think about themselves and not about cricket as a whole. If India is finding it tough to schedule bilaterals then they should only play it in World Cups. Why should others stop playing bilaterals? It doesn't make any sense. The length of IPL should be shortened. This way some players will get enough rest before international fixtures.

I never asked them to stop playing T20 bilaterals. But test playing nations will have to compromise at some point. IPL will only be shortened if it ceases to be profitable. If they can maintain or even increase profitability, then I expect it to lengthen even further.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

I hope the IPL gets trimmed and becomes a 1 to 1.5 month 50 matches or so.
Anything more is impacting on cricket, cricketers fitness, quality of cricket produced, cricket fatigue and will eventually lead to public loosing interest in it, as one sees with viewership figures during IPL 2022.
The IPL is just too long, shorten it.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I hope the IPL gets trimmed and becomes a 1 to 1.5 month 50 matches or so.
Anything more is impacting on cricket, cricketers fitness, quality of cricket produced, cricket fatigue and will eventually lead to public loosing interest in it, as one sees with viewership figures during IPL 2022.
The IPL is just too long, shorten it.

Completely agree. There is no need for such a long IPL, trim it to 4 weeks and divide the teams into 2 groups or 4 groups if they have so many talented players waiting to play. In the end nobody cares who wins the IPL. It is a useless tournament. #SaveInternationalCricket

 

[cricketjoshila]

I hope the IPL gets trimmed and becomes a 1 to 1.5 month 50 matches or so.
Anything more is impacting on cricket, cricketers fitness, quality of cricket produced, cricket fatigue and will eventually lead to public loosing interest in it, as one sees with viewership figures during IPL 2022.
The IPL is just too long, shorten it.

Teams players and boards are free to skip the IPL.

 

[U$ofA]

I hope the IPL gets trimmed and becomes a 1 to 1.5 month 50 matches or so.
Anything more is impacting on cricket, cricketers fitness, quality of cricket produced, cricket fatigue and will eventually lead to public loosing interest in it, as one sees with viewership figures during IPL 2022.
The IPL is just too long, shorten it.

Interesting that you want the IPL to shorten itself. But nothing about players taking upon themselves to skip and not play IPL.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Interesting that you want the IPL to shorten itself. But nothing about players taking upon themselves to skip and not play IPL.

BCCI should compensate them and I am talking about big players like Kohli, Bumrah, Rohit, Shami, Jadeja etc.

 

[PakLFC]

Oh cummon! No one is stopping Ramiz extending the PSL. He will not be able to stop the IPL in any way at all so just save your time Rambo!

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

Interesting that you want the IPL to shorten itself. But nothing about players taking upon themselves to skip and not play IPL.

Yes, i am all for players to skip about 35 percent of matches. I see no need for a guy for eg jasprit bumrah to play each and every match.
Look at the way VK is burning out.
I am all for a player to skip the entire tournament if they feel the rest will do them good & they come back refreshed, stronger fitter and perform better in the internatinal matches that really matter.
I guess from memory Mitchell Starc skipped the IPL once to cncentrate on the ashes. I also recall Michael Clarke skipping the entire IPL to be with the dad of his then fiancee as he was having several serious health issues.
So, its not that it has not been done before. But i wish guys like bumrah would be selective.
Here's where the BCCI has to be proactive and stress the need for player rotation or fix a quota of matches per player.
End of the day problem is easily solved if the num of matches are lessened. IPL is a never ending elephantine tournament and i have several of my Indian friends and colleagues who feel the same way

 

[daytrader]

PCB to raise proliferation of franchise leagues at the ICC Annual Conference

Lahore, 16 July 2022: The finalisation of the Future Tours Programme (FTP) and a concrete strategy on the proliferation of T20 franchise competitions are some of the salient topics which the Pakistan Cricket Board Chairman Ramiz Raja and Chief Executive Faisal Hasnain will raise at next week’s ICC Annual Conference in Birmingham.

The confirmation of the FTP for the 2024-2031 cycle is the foremost priority for the cricket boards in order to develop clarity regarding the schedule of international teams and accordingly prepare for the assignments.

PCB Chief Executive Faisal Hasnain: “Finalising the Future Tours Programme (FTP) is very important for us. This will give us certainty about which teams will be visiting us and which countries we will be touring. 80 per cent of the FTP has already been agreed upon and the remaining 20 per cent will be completed in the upcoming meeting.

“Secondly, the growth of franchise cricket is impacting the already crammed international cricket calendar. The PCB is concerned about this development and wants the ICC to formulate a strategy on this issue.

“We have sent a proposal to the ICC, which they have added to their meeting agenda. Two other boards have also conveyed their apprehensions to the ICC on this matter and urged the ICC to create a working group to debate on the expansion of franchise-based T20 leagues.

“The annual conference presents a unique opportunity for networking with representatives of the world cricket. We are planning several initiatives that involve fellow members and meetings have already been set up on the sidelines with other boards to collectively enhance our common interest.”

The recent political unrest in Sri Lanka has cast doubts over the island nation’s viability as the venue for the six-team Asia Cup next month. The final decision on any last-minute changes to the venue rests with the Asian Cricket Council (ACC).

Speaking on this matter, Faisal Hasnain said: “Our first preference is to support Sri Lanka and play the Asia Cup there. If this tournament does not take place in Sri Lanka, it will be a huge cricketing and financial loss for them. Australia’s recent tour of Sri Lanka went off without any problems. Similarly, there have been no issues with the ongoing Pakistan tour of Sri Lanka as we are constantly in touch with Sri Lanka Cricket (SLC) and our embassy in the country.

“Our discussions with the ACC representatives have suggested that the tournament is on track at the moment as they are monitoring the situation very carefully and we will support their decision.

“The 50-over Asia Cup next year will be quite significant for us as it will be in preparation of our facilities and venues for the ICC Champions Trophy in 2025. Moreover, the Asia Cup will serve as a warm-up for the participating teams for the ICC Cricket World Cup later that year in India.”

https://www.pcb.com.pk/press-releas...ise-leagues-at-the-icc-annual-conference.html

 

[wrongun]

Glad Pakistan is speaking up and seeking clarity on the franchise windows issue. Every year it gets ignored the t20 leagues gobble up more space.

Cricket needs a mature discussion on whether it will remain unique in world sports by having the "internationals" model as the major format or whether like rugby, soccer, basketball then leagues become the main format with internationals fit in around that, to greater (rugby) or lesser (basketball) extent.

 

[U$ofA]

Yes, i am all for players to skip about 35 percent of matches. I see no need for a guy for eg jasprit bumrah to play each and every match.
Look at the way VK is burning out.
I am all for a player to skip the entire tournament if they feel the rest will do them good & they come back refreshed, stronger fitter and perform better in the internatinal matches that really matter.
I guess from memory Mitchell Starc skipped the IPL once to cncentrate on the ashes. I also recall Michael Clarke skipping the entire IPL to be with the dad of his then fiancee as he was having several serious health issues.
So, its not that it has not been done before. But i wish guys like bumrah would be selective.
Here's where the BCCI has to be proactive and stress the need for player rotation or fix a quota of matches per player.
End of the day problem is easily solved if the num of matches are lessened. IPL is a never ending elephantine tournament and i have several of my Indian friends and colleagues who feel the same way

Just because a person does not like ice cream, that person cannot tell the ice cream shop to close or shorten their hours. It is up to the person to ignore the store.

So just because people don't like the IPL, they cannot tell the IPL to shorten. Just ignore it and change channel.

As far as your friends feeling the same way, there are also $6 billion reasons why people like it as well. Just as people are entitled to their opinions, they are also entitled to their choices.

So people can choose to watch or not watch it. Let the market forces determine what happens to the IPL.

 

[MenInG]

You can't beat the power of the $.

Wonder if Styris is being deliberately obtuse or is he a simpleton?

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Earlier this week, the International Cricket Council (ICC) released the Men's Future Tours Programme (FTP) for 2023-27 and it was confirmed that the Indian Premier League (IPL) would be having an extended two-and-a-half-months window for the tournament from next year. Former New Zealand all-rounder Scott Styris has now given his take on it, saying he was in favour of the extended window for IPL 10 years ago and he still has the same opinion.

"I remember 10 years ago the conversation was all around how it was going to creep four or five days each year and it will get to a three-month season. Well, we're starting to get there now. It's just taking a little longer than we expected, and I think you're right. I think it will become the focal point that will allow all the players from all over the world to come together and play without any issues from a nationality perspective. And that's not necessarily a bad thing. I was in favour of it 10 years ago and I'm in favour of it now," said Styris on Sports 18's show 'Sports Over The Top'.

The IPL this year was played with two new teams -- Gujarat Titans and Lucknow Super Giants, and it saw the Hardik Pandya-led Gujarat lifting the trophy in their debut season.

From 2023, India will be playing 20 Tests combined against Australia and England till 2027. The Border-Gavaskar Trophy will also see five Tests being played instead of four.

Styris further explained why India, England and Australia playing more series & matches in the new FTP cycle.

“What I'll say is that it's been that way for as long as I can remember. You know, there are certain teams that get 3, 4 or 5 match series. New Zealand for the most part, only ever get two-match series with the odd three. So, I'm not sure why the surprise is there. It's the big three teams and you understand why. That's where the money in world cricket comes from. But you know, it's very, very tough thing to have a meaningful competition when teams play different amounts of games," said Styris.

"Think about the English Premier League. Football's big in India. You know you don't see Man United play Liverpool five times and yet Burnley plays West Ham just once. You know it's an even playing field. Everybody plays everybody the same amount of time. So in a perfect world I would love to see that being the case. But sometimes money talks and therefore those big marquee teams need to play," he added.

NDTV

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Just because a person does not like ice cream, that person cannot tell the ice cream shop to close or shorten their hours. It is up to the person to ignore the store.

So just because people don't like the IPL, they cannot tell the IPL to shorten. Just ignore it and change channel.

As far as your friends feeling the same way, there are also $6 billion reasons why people like it as well. Just as people are entitled to their opinions, they are also entitled to their choices.

So people can choose to watch or not watch it. Let the market forces determine what happens to the IPL.

What an example lol.

IPL = Icecream Shop
International Cricket = Food Restaurant

You can live without icecream but not without food. I feel for those kids who have to fill their stomach with 10-15 icecreams per day whereas 1 good meal at a restaurant(like a test match or an odi) is good enough for grown ups.