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Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan has told the BBC that peace with India over the disputed territory of Kashmir would be "tremendous" for the wider region.

Mr Khan, a former cricketer who became leader eight months ago, said the nuclear-armed neighbours could only settle their differences with dialogue.

The comments come as India prepares to vote in a general election, weeks after an upsurge of violence in Kashmir.

A suicide attack against Indian forces triggered cross-border air strikes.

Asked what message he wanted to send to Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and his country, Mr Khan told the BBC's John Simpson that the Kashmir issue "has to be settled" and "cannot keep boiling like it is".

"The number-one tasks of the two governments is how are we going to reduce poverty and the way we reduce poverty is by settling our differences through dialogue and there is only one difference - which is Kashmir," he said.

India's prime minister has used anti-Pakistan rhetoric and stressed national-security themes during his re-election campaign.

Many see the election as a referendum on the polarising politics of his Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP).

Voting will open on Thursday and continue into May.

'Irresponsible'
Mr Khan also spoke about the dangers of confrontation between the two neighbours.

"Once you respond, no-one can predict where it can go from there," he said.

If India had "come back and then again attacked Pakistan, Pakistan would have no choice but to respond," he added.

"So in that situation, two nuclear-armed countries, I just felt it was very irresponsible."

Hand of friendship' on election eve
Analysis by the BBC's world affairs editor John Simpson

Imran Khan has given very few interviews during his eight months in power. So when the BBC and a small group of British and American news organisations were invited to meet him, it was because he wanted to send a message to India on the eve of its general election.

He was offering the hand of friendship: let's work together to solve our common problems. The fact is, Imran Khan needs to lighten the atmosphere.

Pakistan's economy is in a bad way. Foreign investors are put off by the angry relationship with India, and by claims that Pakistan is allowing militant Islamic groups to operate from its territory - this he strongly denied.

No previous Pakistani government had done more to clamp down on terrorist groups, he maintained. For him, everything depends on a solution to the Kashmir problem.

If India and Pakistan can find that, he said, everything else could be sorted out easily.

Why is there tension over Kashmir?
Both India and Pakistan claim all of Muslim-majority Kashmir, but control only parts of it.

The neighbours have fought two wars and a limited conflict over the Muslim-majority territory.

In 2003 the two parties agreed a ceasefire along the province's de-facto border, known as the Line of Control (LoC), but internal unrest has continued.

Many who live in India-administered Kashmir resent Indian rule, and Delhi has long accused Pakistan of backing separatist militants there.

High unemployment and complaints of human rights abuses by security forces have also aggravated internal tensions and fuelled insurgency.

What caused relations to flare this year?

Pakistan-based militants killed 40 Indian troops in a suicide attack in Pulwama, in Indian-administered Kashmir, in February.

It was the deadliest attack of its kind in decades and India said the Pakistani state had a hand in the attack.

India responded with air strikes against what it said was a militant training camp in Pakistani territory.

Pakistan then shot down an Indian jet on the Pakistan-administered side of Kashmir.

The pilot from that plane was captured alive, but was safely returned to India in what Mr Khan called a "peace gesture".

Tensions appeared to have eased since then, but earlier this week Pakistan's foreign minister accused India of planning a fresh military attack.

India has dismissed the claims as a "public gimmick" aimed at "whipping up war hysteria in the region".

What else did Mr Khan say?
Mr Khan also spoke to the Reuters news agency on Tuesday. During that interview, he suggested there could be a better chance of peace if Mr Modi were re-elected.

"Perhaps if the BJP - a right-wing party - wins, some kind of settlement in Kashmir could be reached," he said, while suggesting other parties may fear a backlash from the right over any negotiations.

During his BBC interview Mr Khan also touched on the case of Asia Bibi - a high-profile blasphemy case involving a Christian woman.

Pakistan's Supreme Court upheld its decision to overturn her conviction and death sentence in January, but she is yet to leave Pakistan.

Mr Khan told the BBC that she would be departing the country "very soon"

"There is a little bit of a complication. And I can't speak on the media about [it]," he said. "But I can assure you she is safe and she will be leaving in weeks."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47869921
 
Pakistan PM Imran Khan sees better chance of peace talks with India if BJP wins election

ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan said he thinks there may be a better chance of peace talks with India if Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) wins the general election due to begin there on Thursday.

Khan said that if the next Indian government were led by the opposition Congress party, it might be too scared to seek a settlement with Pakistan over disputed Indian-controlled Kashmir, fearing a backlash from the right.

“Perhaps if the BJP - a right-wing party - wins, some kind of settlement in Kashmir could be reached,” Khan told a small group of foreign journalists in an interview.

This was despite the massive alienation that Muslims in Kashmir and Muslims in general were facing in Modi’s India, said Khan, who took office last August.

“I never thought I would see what is happening in India right now,” said the former international cricket star. “Muslim-ness is being attacked.”

Khan said Indian Muslims he knew who many years ago had been happy about their situation in India were now very worried by extreme Hindu nationalism.

He said Modi, like Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, was electioneering based on “fear and nationalist feeling”.

The BJP’s pledge this week to propose stripping decades-old special rights from the people of Jammu and Kashmir, which prevent outsiders from buying property in the state, was a major concern, though it could also be electioneering, Khan said.

Khan did appear to offer India an olive branch, saying that Islamabad was determined to dismantle all Pakistan-based militias in the country, and that the government had full support from Pakistan’s powerful army for the programme. Those to be dismantled include groups involved in Kashmir.

Nuclear-armed neighbours Pakistan and India both claim Kashmir in full but rule in part.

Khan said Kashmir was a political struggle and there was no military solution, adding that Kashmiris suffered if armed militants from Pakistan came across the border, leading to Indian army crackdowns.

Relations between Pakistan and India, which have fought three wars since gaining independence from Britain in 1947, two over Kashmir, reached a crisis point in February after a suicide bombing killed 40 Indian paramilitary police in Kashmir.

Islamabad denied responsibility for the Feb. 14 attack, which was claimed by Pakistan-based militant group Jaish-e-Mohammed, but the bombing prompted India to carry out a cross border air strike against what it said was a militant training camp in Pakistan.

Pakistan responded with air strikes of its own.

Pollsters say Modi and the BJP’s re-election bid got a boost from a wave of patriotism after the suicide bomb attack and the Indian government’s fast response.

Khan said there was still the possibility if the polls turn against Modi in the next few weeks that India could take some further military action against Pakistan.

The rolling election is held in phases and does not finish until May 19. The result is not due until May 23.

Pakistani Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi warned on Sunday that Islamabad had “reliable intelligence” that India would attack again this month. India described the claim as irresponsible.

Khan said that it was vital for Pakistan to have peace with its neighbours, Afghanistan, India and Iran, if it was to have the kind of economy needed to pull 100 million people out of poverty.

https://www.reuters.com/article/pak...ndia-if-modis-bjp-wins-election-idUSKCN1RL265
 
ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - Pakistan’s push to curb armed militant groups in the wake of a standoff with India that brought the nuclear-armed neighbors close to war reflected an urgent need for stability to meet growing economic challenges, Prime Minister Imran Khan said.

Facing a financial crisis and heavy pressure to take on militant groups to avoid sanctions from the Financial Action Task Force (FATF), a global money laundering and terror finance watchdog, Khan said Pakistan was acting in its own interests.

“Everyone now knows that what is happening in Pakistan has never happened (before),” Khan told a group of foreign journalists at his office in Islamabad on Tuesday, outlining a push to bring the more than 30,000 madrasas across Pakistan under government control and rehabilitate thousands of former militants.

“We have decided, this country has decided, for the future of the country - forget outside pressure - we will not allow armed militias to operate,” he said.

The comments underline a push by Pakistan to improve its image after years of accusations that its security services have exploited militant groups as proxies against neighbors, including India and Afghanistan.

Islamabad has consistently denied the accusations and said Pakistan has suffered more from militant violence than any other country, with tens of thousands of deaths and billions of dollars in economic damage over recent decades.

But Khan, a former cricket star, implicitly accepted the role played by Pakistan in fostering and steering militant groups that grew out of the U.S.-backed mujahideen fighting Soviet forces in neighboring Afghanistan in the 1980s.

“We should never have allowed them to exist once jihad was over,” he said, rejecting suggestions that he could face opposition from the powerful military and the ISI, Pakistan’s main intelligence agency.

“Today, we have the total support of the Pakistan army and intelligence services in dismantling them,” Khan said. “What use has ISI of them any more? These groups were created for the Afghan jihad.”

BROKEN PROMISES
Pakistan’s critics, including India, have dismissed Khan’s promises of a crackdown, saying similar pledges have been repeatedly made by previous governments only to be quietly dropped once attention shifted.

They point to Pakistan’s continued failure to arrest Masood Azhar, leader of Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM), the group which claimed responsibility for the Feb. 14 attack in Pulwama district of Indian-controlled Kashmir that killed 40 paramilitary police.

Khan said Pakistan was constrained by the need to build a legal case that would stand up in court but said Azhar had been driven underground and was “ineffective” and unwell.

“More important than him is the set-up and that is being dismantled,” he said.

Although Khan insisted that the actions against militant groups were being undertaken for Pakistan’s own benefits, his government, which came to power last August, faces severe economic headwinds that have made international support vital.

In discussions with the International Monetary Fund over what would be its 13th bailout since the 1980s, Pakistan is struggling to stay off the FATF blacklist, which would bring heavy economic penalties.

“We can’t afford to be blacklisted, that would mean sanctions,” Khan said.

With a currency that has lost more than a quarter of its value over the past year, a yawning current account deficit and galloping inflation running at over nine percent, Pakistan is in desperate need of a respite to get its economy on track.

Elected on a platform of tackling the endemic corruption that has helped cripple Pakistan’s economy, Khan said his top priority was to take 100 million people, or around half the population, out of poverty.

“You can only do this if there is stability in Pakistan.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...litant-push-vital-for-stability-idUSKCN1RM0E5
 
The solution is simple - respect the first point of the UN Resolution and order the COAS to withdraw soldiers from LoC. As long as Pakistan refuses to respect the resolution, how can the issue be resolved?

However, Imran is fully aware of the fact that he if were to take a step like that, he and his government will have to pay a heavy price. It is simply not in the interests of our military to have the Kashmir issue resolved. Kashmir is nothing but a tool for them to exercise control over Pakistan and maintain their supremacy.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"The number-one task of the two governments is how are we going to reduce poverty and the way we reduce poverty is by settling our differences through dialogue and there is only one difference - which is <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Kashmir?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Kashmir</a> - Prime Minister Imran Khan<a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ImranKhanPTI</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PTI?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PTI</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Pakistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Pakistan</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/India?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#India</a> <a href="https://t.co/44T0H6fyFk">pic.twitter.com/44T0H6fyFk</a></p>— PTI (@PTIofficial) <a href="https://twitter.com/PTIofficial/status/1115858229286899714?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 10, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"The number-one task of the two governments is how are we going to reduce poverty and the way we reduce poverty is by settling our differences through dialogue and there is only one difference - which is <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Kashmir?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Kashmir</a> - Prime Minister Imran Khan<a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ImranKhanPTI</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PTI?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PTI</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Pakistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Pakistan</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/India?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#India</a> <a href="https://t.co/44T0H6fyFk">pic.twitter.com/44T0H6fyFk</a></p>— PTI (@PTIofficial) <a href="https://twitter.com/PTIofficial/status/1115858229286899714?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 10, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Imran Khan is educated so you can expect matured statements from him. Yes the number one goal should be to reduce poverty.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is how permission is granted to people in J&K to use their highway. Their hands are being stamped & written on. I don’t know what to say! Should we be flippant & mock the attempt at saving paper? I’m just angry at the degrading, inhuman treatment being meted out to people. <a href="https://t.co/UWJh0nHhVS">pic.twitter.com/UWJh0nHhVS</a></p>— Omar Abdullah (@OmarAbdullah) <a href="https://twitter.com/OmarAbdullah/status/1115870565447938048?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 10, 2019</a></blockquote>
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But Khan, a former cricket star, implicitly accepted the role played by Pakistan in fostering and steering militant groups that grew out of the U.S.-backed mujahideen fighting Soviet forces in neighboring Afghanistan in the 1980s.

“We should never have allowed them to exist once jihad was over,” he said, rejecting suggestions that he could face opposition from the powerful military and the ISI, Pakistan’s main intelligence agency.

“Today, we have the total support of the Pakistan army and intelligence services in dismantling them,” Khan said. “What use has ISI of them any more? These groups were created for the Afghan jihad.”

Bold statements. Respect! Lets see if he can walk the talk and actually dismantle the dodgy madrassas. But I suspect this would already have a faction of the army to start hating his guts...
 
The solution is simple - respect the first point of the UN Resolution and order the COAS to withdraw soldiers from LoC. As long as Pakistan refuses to respect the resolution, how can the issue be resolved?

However, Imran is fully aware of the fact that he if were to take a step like that, he and his government will have to pay a heavy price. It is simply not in the interests of our military to have the Kashmir issue resolved. Kashmir is nothing but a tool for them to exercise control over Pakistan and maintain their supremacy.

Even simply respecting the Shimla agreeement will mean lasting peace with India.
 
The solution is simple - respect the first point of the UN Resolution and order the COAS to withdraw soldiers from LoC. As long as Pakistan refuses to respect the resolution, how can the issue be resolved?

However, Imran is fully aware of the fact that he if were to take a step like that, he and his government will have to pay a heavy price. It is simply not in the interests of our military to have the Kashmir issue resolved. Kashmir is nothing but a tool for them to exercise control over Pakistan and maintain their supremacy.

Anti Pakistan element out in force :)

Withdraw troops from LOC and see India occupying Azad Kashmir. No thanks!
 
I have been saying this for a long time, Imran and Modi are working together and making theie general public absolute fools..... Its all a setup........ :inti
 
The solution is simple - respect the first point of the UN Resolution and order the COAS to withdraw soldiers from LoC. As long as Pakistan refuses to respect the resolution, how can the issue be resolved?

However, Imran is fully aware of the fact that he if were to take a step like that, he and his government will have to pay a heavy price. It is simply not in the interests of our military to have the Kashmir issue resolved. Kashmir is nothing but a tool for them to exercise control over Pakistan and maintain their supremacy.

That just means India will invade AJK so noy gonna happen unless India announce their agreement to holding a referendum
 
I have been saying this for a long time, Imran and Modi are working together and making theie general public absolute fools..... Its all a setup........ :inti

Looks more appropriate now. BJP has got INDIA to a level down that they would have never imagined. IMRAN here is actually cursing their neighbours by wishing BJP wins elections. May be he imagine that Pakistan can wipe out poverty and become financially stable while INDIA on the other hand under MODI become the pooorest of the two nations compared financially unstable, most insecure for women etc and that is how he thinks he will beat INDIA lol.
 
Imran once again displaying supreme statesman qualities by engaging with the BJP publicly and giving them the benefit of the doubt to have sincere intentions. Poor Modi has been left chasing shadows once again.
 
Imran once again displaying supreme statesman qualities by engaging with the BJP publicly and giving them the benefit of the doubt to have sincere intentions. Poor Modi has been left chasing shadows once again.

IK has played Modi/India each and every single time!
Quiet amazing really. But I suppose this is the difference between an extremist leader and one that has the good of the people close to his heart.
 
IK has played Modi/India each and every single time!
Quiet amazing really. But I suppose this is the difference between an extremist leader and one that has the good of the people close to his heart.

Just wait to see which way this thread goes, he will be accused of pulling the wool over people's eyes by the Modi brigade, the Pakistan military will be dragged into it to deflect and divert from IK's meticulous statecraft, and of course our resident Bharat cheerleader will be dancing along to the saffron bangle chimes.
 
Frankly even if IK has honest intentions, I fail to see why India will come to the negotiating table unless we see tangible action against violent groups. How about declaring a period of ceasefire where we see these non state actors and their support infrastructure disabled? That will be a strong statement without loosening the Pakistani position on Kashmir and force India to respond.

Unfortunately for IK as things stand, violent actions as the ones last month hurt India less than they hurt the Pakistani economy. As I see it, if BJP wins a second term they will probably go more hardline on Kashmir as they realise the dialogue process they started with NS went nowhere nor did the coalition government in Kashmir provide any tangible results. Also the last few months have probably shown them that the country is fed up of the Kashmir conflict and wants some decisive actions from the government to change the status quo. I fail to see how talking to IK, without any clear direction, achieves that.
 
Looks more appropriate now. BJP has got INDIA to a level down that they would have never imagined. IMRAN here is actually cursing their neighbours by wishing BJP wins elections. May be he imagine that Pakistan can wipe out poverty and become financially stable while INDIA on the other hand under MODI become the pooorest of the two nations compared financially unstable, most insecure for women etc and that is how he thinks he will beat INDIA lol.

India under Modi is booming. Where are you getting all this rubbish from?

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Doesn't look anywhere close to "financially unstable", "poor", etc.
 
Imran once again displaying supreme statesman qualities by engaging with the BJP publicly and giving them the benefit of the doubt to have sincere intentions. Poor Modi has been left chasing shadows once again.

No one in the GOI is going to be taken in by these stunts. While Pakistan supports a separatist and terrorist movement in India they cant talk of peace.

This is more to get away from being put in FATF blacklist, which Imran Khan is dreading.
 
It's the Richard Nixon argument that only an ardent anti-Communist right winger like Nixon could've restored ties with China.
 
Imran once again displaying supreme statesman qualities by engaging with the BJP publicly and giving them the benefit of the doubt to have sincere intentions. Poor Modi has been left chasing shadows once again.

So did Modi. Remember how he surprised everyone by going into Pakistan and meeting Nawaz Sheriff in order to restrore peace. Pakistan retaliated that by sponsoring terrorism in Pathankot. Even in the past, Vajpayee extended his arm for peace and Kargil followed. Pakistan has a known history of backstabbing. Pakistani army and ISI cant afford peace with Pakistan or else their shop will close. And everyone knows Pak civilian govt is just a puppet of army/ISI.

But hey....we can all sing praises of Imran and live in delusions though.
 
Learning from your beloved modi whose entire campaign talks about Pakistan everyday. Even yesterday he spoke about Pakistans creation!

Yes. He said Congress created Pakistan. AFAIK it was congress that negotiated with the muslim league on partition. So he is not wrong.

Though this is one of the few acts of congress that i believe truly served the people.
 
Only way for Pakistan and India to move forward is through dialogue: FM Qureshi

Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi on Wednesday said that the only way for Pakistan and India to move forward was through dialogue.

While addressing a National Conference on Strategic Stability in South Asia in Islamabad, Qureshi said Pakistan needs a "willing and constructive partner to tackle the myriad daunting challenges" that the region is facing.

"A peaceful neighbourhood is the sine qua non [an essential condition] to build prosperous societies," he added.

The foreign minister began his address by noting that recent events were a reminder of the "heavy responsibility" that both Pakistan and India have to bear in working towards addressing the "underlying challenges" to strategic stability in the region.

The two also need to commit to a peaceful environment that is conducive to the socio-economic development and welfare of the people.

Relations between Pakistan and India reached a crisis point in February after a suicide bombing in occupied Kashmir's Pulwama killed more than 40 Indian paramilitary personnel in Kashmir.

India had immediately hurled allegations of Pakistan's involvement, whereas Islamabad strongly rejected the claim and asked for "actionable evidence".

Subsequently, on Feb 26, Indian warplanes violated Pakistani airspace and allegedly struck what New Delhi claimed was a Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM) training camp — a claim never proved by India.

The next day, Pakistani jets fired at various targets from across the Line of Control. As the Indian Air Force engaged the Pakistani jets, the PAF shot down two Indian warplanes ─ one of which crashed in Azad Jammu and Kashmir ─ and captured an Indian pilot, Wing Commander Abhinandan. The pilot was released on March 1 as a gesture of peace by the Pakistani government.

Qureshi today said that the South Asian security environment was in a "state of flux". He said that India's "massive acquisition of conventional arms with offensive doctrines" as well as the expansion of strategic assets were developments which had "serious security implications for Pakistan".

Qureshi said that the recent Anti-Satellite (ASAT) test highlighted Pakistan's concerns on the "military spin-offs" of high technology trade with India.

He said that the country-specific exemption by the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG) also had negative implications for strategic stability of the region.

The foreign minister added that the introduction of new destabilising weapon systems such as the S-400 anti ballistic missile system could further "accentuate" challenges to strategic stability.

"They can encourage misadventure by an adversary under a false sense of security against a counter-attack," he said.

He noted that the recent "belligerence" displayed against Pakistan as well as the "assumption that Pakistan could be subject to punitive strikes, at will, is a clear manifestation of threats to stability in the region."

Qureshi said that Pakistan was a "peace-loving country," committed to peaceful and normal relations in the neighbourhood. However, he added that they were "equally determined to frustrate any attempt to create a so-called "new normal"."

https://www.dawn.com/news/1475144/o...o-move-forward-is-through-dialogue-fm-qureshi
 
NEW DELHI: Indian opposition leaders trolled Narendra Modi on Wednesday following Prime Minister Imran Khan's remarks that he sees a better chance of peace talks with New Delhi if Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) wins the general election.

Leaders from the Congress, Aam Aadmi Party (AAP) and Indian-occupied Kashmir politicians, Omar Abdullah and Mehbooba Mufti, were among those who questioned the Indian premier over PM Imran's statement.

"Pakistan has officially allied with Modi! A vote for Modi is a vote for Pakistan," tweeted Congress spokesperson Randeep Sing Surjewala. "Modi-ji, first Nawaz Sharif, now Imran Khan is your friend. The secret is out," he added.

"Why does Pakistan want Modi-ji to win? PM Modi, please tell the nation how deep your relationship is with Pakitan? All Indians should know that if PM Modi wins then crackers will be burst in Pakistan," tweeted AAP chief Arvind Kejriwal.

Former occupied Kashmir chief minister Omar Abdullah also took to Twitter and said: "So much for Modi Sahib telling the country only Pakistan and its sympathisers want BJP to lose. Imran Khan has just endorsed him for a 2nd term".

Mehbooba Mufti, the leader of the PDP and a former BJP ally, remarked: "****** scratching their heads and at wit ends wondering if they should praise Imran Khan or not."

https://www.geo.tv/latest/233749-indian-opposition-trolls-modi-after-pm-imrans-peace-talk-remarks
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">How soon before we see a “Chowkidar Imran Khan” twitter handle? <a href="https://t.co/lbuC1dUNrj">https://t.co/lbuC1dUNrj</a></p>— Omar Abdullah (@OmarAbdullah) <a href="https://twitter.com/OmarAbdullah/status/1115885251614711808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 10, 2019</a></blockquote>
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If Pak pulls out from the LoC then India will annex AJK and it will face the same situation as IoK, you're real smart. Wonder how much you bribed to get into medical school.

I am where I am today because of my intelligence and hard work. However, perhaps I should I have used the millions my family plundered from the poor to bribe my way into and out of med school. I could have utilized all those years for some passion of mine.

Now that the pleasantries are out of the way, let me address your concern which has also been backed up by a couple of other posters.

The problem is that people like you are struggling to think beyond the narrative that has been fed to you.

If Pakistan were to withdraw its forces from the LoC, India would simply not walk into AJK a day later and claim the land. That it is so simplistic that it is borderline amusing.

Once Pakistan kicks off the resolution by withdrawing its forces, India will be under pressure to act on it as well, i.e. to minimize the presence of troops and to push for a referendum that would allow the people of Kashmir to decide their fate.

This will also strengthen Pakistan’s position in international forums. The reason why the world doesn’t buy our narrative on Kashmir is because we have refused to play our part in implementing the resolution that was commissioned in 1947.

This again brings us to the original point - Pakistan’s military is not interested in the implementation of the resolution because it is against their interests.

If Pakistan and India reach a point of mutual agreement and there is no active hostility between the two nations, the influence of the military on the government of Pakistan will weaken.

They will no longer be able to rule the counter from the backstage and they will no longer live like kings without no accountability. The military is the most powerful institution in the country only when it is in constant conflict.

Our military couldn’t care less about the plight of the people of Kashmir. If they day comes where they could benefit from torturing them, they will not hesitate for a moment. Their crimes and atrocities in east Pakistan are no better than what India is doing in Kashmir.

Kashmir is nothing but a tool for our military establishment to grab the country by its balls.
 
No matter how much IK try to create a image how he and Modi are working behind the scene and no matter how much congress jump up and down, all these people will have to wait for another 5 years! Fate is sealed and common Indians are not going to change their mind.

I see within 1st year, Modi will take major steps to handle the situation in Kashmir.

IK talks like a big shot with his puppet BBC but really no one gives a hoot about his talk.
 
If Pak pulls out, UN forces will take care of PoK. No one goes to war againist UN forces.

Lol at commenting on someone's smartness who qualified USMLE and got residency.

It is not his fault. It is the narrative that has been fed to him by our military, who have successfully planted India as a boogeyman into the minds of our people whose only objective is to destroy Pakistan.

The brainwashing has been achieved at such a large scale that they actually believe that the Indian troops will simply walk into AJK with Indian flags and will walk over the UN Resolution.

Nevertheless, our military has to come up with a script to justice why we have refused to respect any resolution or agreement with India.
 
Anti Pakistan element out in force :)

Withdraw troops from LOC and see India occupying Azad Kashmir. No thanks!

I don't think that's an anti Pakistan sentiment.

Only when we fulfill our side of the agreement can we force the other side to comit to it.

We aren't living in the 1950s or 60s anymore. The wold has become a global stage. There is no way India will be able to occupy Azad Kashmir while losing it's credibility in front of the world. Also it would be much harder for India to control the whole region than to control the divided Kashmir.

It does seem to be a risky step. However I think Pakistan can only win in the long-term by thinking out of the box.
 
I don't think that's an anti Pakistan sentiment.

Only when we fulfill our side of the agreement can we force the other side to comit to it.

We aren't living in the 1950s or 60s anymore. The wold has become a global stage. There is no way India will be able to occupy Azad Kashmir while losing it's credibility in front of the world. Also it would be much harder for India to control the whole region than to control the divided Kashmir.

It does seem to be a risky step. However I think Pakistan can only win in the long-term by thinking out of the box.

Pakistan have not gained an inch of J&K since 1947. It is time to realize that are existing strategies are not working.

If things continue like this, this issue will not be resolved for the next 500 years.
 
Same here. But then you will notice not only did our friend join hands to dance with unofficial Modi apologist to bash Pakistan, any praise for IK proposing a settlement of Kashmir with BJP govt was met with absolute silence. Despite this being what he himself has been proposing. :91:

This.
 
I don't think that's an anti Pakistan sentiment.

Only when we fulfill our side of the agreement can we force the other side to comit to it.

We aren't living in the 1950s or 60s anymore. The wold has become a global stage. There is no way India will be able to occupy Azad Kashmir while losing it's credibility in front of the world. Also it would be much harder for India to control the whole region than to control the divided Kashmir.

It does seem to be a risky step. However I think Pakistan can only win in the long-term by thinking out of the box.

Heard about Crimea, Palestine? What did the UN do? UN cant do anything and is just a hopeless body! Might is right in this world unfortunately.
 
Pakistan have not gained an inch of J&K since 1947. It is time to realize that are existing strategies are not working.

If things continue like this, this issue will not be resolved for the next 500 years.

But India, despite being multitude times bigger, and having gained upper hand in most wars, hasnt gained an inch either. And right after partition they had total control of J&K.

So who is the real winner here?
 
But India, despite being multitude times bigger, and having gained upper hand in most wars, hasnt gained an inch either. And right after partition they had total control of J&K.

So who is the real winner here?
But then we don’t want the rest of J&K. We are cool with the status quo, so your metric does not apply.
 
But then we don’t want the rest of J&K. We are cool with the status quo, so your metric does not apply.

The why do you show the whole J&K in your maps even our territory.

The official Indian policy is that Pakistan occupies Azad Kashmir
 
The why do you show the whole J&K in your maps even our territory.

The official Indian policy is that Pakistan occupies Azad Kashmir
We do show it on the map but you don’t see us act on it. India is happy to convert the current LOC into the IB. This does not fly with what Pakistan wants.
 
We do show it on the map but you don’t see us act on it. India is happy to convert the current LOC into the IB. This does not fly with what Pakistan wants.

And that’s why you also refer to it as Pakistan “occupied” kashmir.

Please spare us the rubbish.
 
But India, despite being multitude times bigger, and having gained upper hand in most wars, hasnt gained an inch either. And right after partition they had total control of J&K.

So who is the real winner here?

The real winner here is the country that in spite of the Kashmir conflict has overseen tremendous economic growth, and has been able to develop modern industries and global companies. A country that has over $4m foreign reserves which puts it in the top 10.

The real loser is the country that lost its eastern half, has a struggling economy and has failed to develop modern industries and global companies. Its foreign reserves are pitiful and it is not even in the top 50 in the world. Moreover, it begs for money all over the world.

The difference between Pakistan and India is that the Kashmir issue has not hampered their progress and development. Without Kashmir, India would not be in a much different position than it is now. On the contrary, without the Kashmir conflict, Pakistan would have done a lot better and would in fact have been quite similar to India in terms of economic growth.
 
The real winner here is the country that in spite of the Kashmir conflict has overseen tremendous economic growth, and has been able to develop modern industries and global companies. A country that has over $4m foreign reserves which puts it in the top 10.

The real loser is the country that lost its eastern half, has a struggling economy and has failed to develop modern industries and global companies. Its foreign reserves are pitiful and it is not even in the top 50 in the world. Moreover, it begs for money all over the world.

The difference between Pakistan and India is that the Kashmir issue has not hampered their progress and development. Without Kashmir, India would not be in a much different position than it is now. On the contrary, without the Kashmir conflict, Pakistan would have done a lot better and would in fact have been quite similar to India in terms of economic growth.

India did not have to fight a war in Afghanistan and against communism.
 
The real winner here is the country that in spite of the Kashmir conflict has overseen tremendous economic growth, and has been able to develop modern industries and global companies. A country that has over $4m foreign reserves which puts it in the top 10.

The real loser is the country that lost its eastern half, has a struggling economy and has failed to develop modern industries and global companies. Its foreign reserves are pitiful and it is not even in the top 50 in the world. Moreover, it begs for money all over the world.

The difference between Pakistan and India is that the Kashmir issue has not hampered their progress and development. Without Kashmir, India would not be in a much different position than it is now. On the contrary, without the Kashmir conflict, Pakistan would have done a lot better and would in fact have been quite similar to India in terms of economic growth.

And you have such an elementary views to Pakistan's problems, solving those problems and history, partly it has to do with the career you have build on Pakpassion.
 
The real winner here is the country that in spite of the Kashmir conflict has overseen tremendous economic growth, and has been able to develop modern industries and global companies. A country that has over $4m foreign reserves which puts it in the top 10.

The real loser is the country that lost its eastern half, has a struggling economy and has failed to develop modern industries and global companies. Its foreign reserves are pitiful and it is not even in the top 50 in the world. Moreover, it begs for money all over the world.

The difference between Pakistan and India is that the Kashmir issue has not hampered their progress and development. Without Kashmir, India would not be in a much different position than it is now. On the contrary, without the Kashmir conflict, Pakistan would have done a lot better and would in fact have been quite similar to India in terms of economic growth.

Lazy analysis.

Kashmir or no Kashmir, the Afghan war and
The refugee crisis and the subsequent terrorism which has hampered our progress would have still existed.
 
India did not have to fight a war in Afghanistan and against communism.

Which is yet another shining example of our poor and ill-fated decision making. Throughout our history, we have picked the wrong enemies and the wrong fights.
 
Which is yet another shining example of our poor and ill-fated decision making. Throughout our history, we have picked the wrong enemies and the wrong fights.

lol.

you wanted Pakistan to side with Russia?
 
Lazy analysis.

Kashmir or no Kashmir, the Afghan war and
The refugee crisis and the subsequent terrorism which has hampered our progress would have still existed.

Pakistan has played a significantly important role in getting its hands dirty in Afghanistan, and there were always going to be repercussions when we decided to fight America's war.
 
Lazy analysis.

Kashmir or no Kashmir, the Afghan war and
The refugee crisis and the subsequent terrorism which has hampered our progress would have still existed.

That is Pakpassion career destroying analysis.
 
I think he is trying to get Indians to vote the other way, hardcore extremists will not want Modi to make peace with Pakistan so will be tying their saffron dotis in knot right now.
 
lol.

you wanted Pakistan to side with Russia?

A lot of people do make an argument for it, but it was never a realistic possibility. Siding with USSR would have created new problems for Pakistan and it in the long run, it would have been nothing short of disastrous. Unfortunately Pakistan was not in a position to stay neutral, so siding with the U.S. was still a better option. However, that does not mean that Pakistan could not and should not have shown more tact.

Pakistan's fatal mistake was its role in the creation of Taliban that as well as opening its doors for Afghan refugees, which again was a decision that the military took for their benefit rather than the country's.
 
It is also worth pointing out that Pakistan were on the brink of bankruptcy post independence, and considering England's own problems, we had no choice but seek aid from the new leader of the free world, the U.S. Ultimately, Pakistan had no choice but to choose the U.S. over its battle with the Soviets, but the problem for Pakistan was that its military was using that alliance to strengthen its grip on the country.
 
A lot of people do make an argument for it, but it was never a realistic possibility. Siding with USSR would have created new problems for Pakistan and it in the long run, it would have been nothing short of disastrous. Unfortunately Pakistan was not in a position to stay neutral, so siding with the U.S. was still a better option. However, that does not mean that Pakistan could not and should not have shown more tact.

Pakistan's fatal mistake was its role in the creation of Taliban that as well as opening its doors for Afghan refugees, which again was a decision that the military took for their benefit rather than the country's.

Before this continue, tell us why did Pakistan supported Taliban?

Refugees came into Pakistan in the early 80’s during the Afghan Russia war.
 
But India, despite being multitude times bigger, and having gained upper hand in most wars, hasnt gained an inch either. And right after partition they had total control of J&K.

So who is the real winner here?

No.India didnot have total control of J and K.

Pakistani forces were few Kilometres away from Srinagar when Hari Singh aceded to India and Indian forces landed in Srinagar.

Pakistan infact lost territory after Indian forces landed and was confined to the northern most part and the narrow strip of land in the south.
 
The why do you show the whole J&K in your maps even our territory.

The official Indian policy is that Pakistan occupies Azad Kashmir

Why does China show Taiwan and Arunachal Pradesh and Sikkim as its territory?

Their policy is that its chinese territory. But they are happy with status quo and are not going to war for it.
 
Heard about Crimea, Palestine? What did the UN do? UN cant do anything and is just a hopeless body! Might is right in this world unfortunately.

Those are good points.

I'd say in case of Pakistan and India both parties are nuclear powers and from military point of view can look at each other eye to eye. While in case of Palestine and Crimea it was an uneven contest with one side vastly dominating the other. Therefor the incentive would be higher to get it done.

There are only two realistic options to choose from:

Either accept the current division of the Kashmir region. Stop calling Jammu and Kashmir as "Indian occupied Kashmir". And declare the unrests in Kashmir as India's internal affairs.

Or

Before demanding from India to hold plebiscite in Kashmir we fulfill our part of the agreement, which led to ceasefire after the first Indo-Pak war and take off our troops from Azad Kashmir.

Any sort of calls for "solution via dialogs" are just hot air unless those making such claims are ready to accept either of the two options I illustrated above

I prefer the second option.

We have very little to lose here.

Even if India decides to occupy Azad Kashmir it is only going to make matter worse for India. When Kashmiris in the valley, who after over 70 years of Indian occupation haven't given up their love and passion for Pakistan then what do you think would be the attitude of those Kashmiris living in Azad Kashmir who haven't tasted a day under Indian occupation. It would be much more difficult for India to control the whole undivided Kashmir and the indigenous struggle for freedom would only increase in dimension and manpower.

It is alot easier for India to control J&K after having cut it off from Azad Kashmir thanks to the heavily guarded line of control. By trying to take over the rest of Kashmir India would increase its vulnerability.

It is already obvious that our military isn't sincere with the cause of Kashmiri freedom. We officially claim Jammu and Kashmir to be part of Pakistan however we don't treat it as such. Otherwise officially millions of Pakistanis are being oppressed by Indian forces and our military is doing nothing. While it did not took long for the military to respond when Indian jets bombed some "Pakistani" trees.

Our military isn't willing to take the direkt heads on approach, however the indirect approach via proxies has long died its death.

The old approach to the problem by trying to support the militancy in Kashmir was defeated in 2003 when Pakistan under Musharraf officially betrayed the movement and allowed the line of control to be sealed properly while cracking down on many militants. Yes the crackdown wasn't decisive and some elements were allowed to exist but it did kill the momentum from the hard work of the 90s.

Now our covert military support to the indigenous struggle for freedom is only going to make it less credible infront of the world.
 
A lot of people do make an argument for it, but it was never a realistic possibility. Siding with USSR would have created new problems for Pakistan and it in the long run, it would have been nothing short of disastrous. Unfortunately Pakistan was not in a position to stay neutral, so siding with the U.S. was still a better option. However, that does not mean that Pakistan could not and should not have shown more tact.

Pakistan's fatal mistake was its role in the creation of Taliban that as well as opening its doors for Afghan refugees, which again was a decision that the military took for their benefit rather than the country's.

Taliban was already in Afghanistan, only they didn't have that name tag associated with them then. Afghanistan was filled with conservative Islamist militias fighting the Russians, USA used Pakistan as a conduit to support them for their own goals, and Pakistan themselves felt threatened by Russian expansionism.
 
Pakistan have not gained an inch of J&K since 1947. It is time to realize that are existing strategies are not working.

If things continue like this, this issue will not be resolved for the next 500 years.

The status quo is beneficial to both sides, dont see it changing anytime soon.
 
A lot of people do make an argument for it, but it was never a realistic possibility. Siding with USSR would have created new problems for Pakistan and it in the long run, it would have been nothing short of disastrous. Unfortunately Pakistan was not in a position to stay neutral, so siding with the U.S. was still a better option. However, that does not mean that Pakistan could not and should not have shown more tact.

Pakistan's fatal mistake was its role in the creation of Taliban that as well as opening its doors for Afghan refugees, which again was a decision that the military took for their benefit rather than the country's.

Sorry, you can thank Benazir government and her interior minister who claimed Taliban were his "babies" for creating Taliban. Just like her father who initiated the instigation in Afghanistan against the Daoud regime, Benazir was no different in making boneheaded decisions. Leave the military out of this one.
 
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Prime Minister Imran Khan's statement regarding the outcome of the ongoing elections in India "was taken out of context", Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi told the Senate's Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs on Thursday.

During an interview to foreign journalists earlier this week, Prime Minister Khan had been reported as saying that Islamabad and New Delhi have a better chance of peace talks if Narendra Modi is reelected as the premier in India.

“Perhaps if the BJP [Bharatiya Janata Party] — a right-wing party — wins, some kind of settlement in Kashmir could be reached,” he was quoted as saying.

In today's session of the Senate Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs, senators criticised Prime Minister Khan's statement, saying that Modi was a "danger to Pakistan".

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"You [Qureshi] said that India is getting ready for an adventure, [then] why did the prime minister say that dialogue can only take place if Modi wins the Indian elections?" asked PPP Senator Sherry Rehman.

"A state has friendly relations with another state, not with a personality," she said, expressing bewilderment over how the prime minister could express his "preference" of who would win in another country's elections.

PPP Senator Rehman Malik also objected to the prime minister's statement, saying: "It is wrong to say that relations between India and Pakistan would improve if Modi wins [the Indian elections] as he talked about breaking up Balochistan."

The foreign minister defended the prime minister's statement and accused the Indian media of "sensationalising everything". He said that the premier's statement was "published out of context".

He further said that Prime Minister Khan's reservations regarding the BJP leader "are on the record and everyone knows his [Khan's] opinion of Modi".

Qureshi declared that only the Indian public will decide the winner and loser of the ongoing election.

Senator Javed Abbasi asked Qureshi about rumours that an Israeli pilot had also been captured along with Indian Air Force pilot Abhinandan when the Pakistan Air Force shot down two Indian jets in February.

The foreign minister denied the reports and said that there had been a "mistake in the ISPR press conference" that was held after the aerial dog fight between the nuclear armed rivals, in which the ISPR chief had stated that there was another pilot undergoing treatment at a military hospital.

He asserted that there was no other pilot —Indian or Israeli — in Pakistan's custody.

Also read: India plotted dangerous attack with Israeli help

Referring to the dossier sent by New Delhi containing 'evidence' of Pakistan's alleged involvement in the Feb 14 Pulwama attack, Qureshi described it as a joke.

India has accused Pakistan of being involvement in the Pulwama attack, in which more than 40 Indian paramilitaries were killed. Pakistan has denied the allegations and has repeatedly promised to cooperate in the investigation if New Delhi provides "actionable evidence".

https://www.dawn.com/news/1475398/p...ken-out-of-context-qureshi-tells-senate-panel
 
Lol, what a masterstroke by IK. Now Indian Citizens are going to have second thoughts about re-electing Modi. People drastically underestimate IK, he is not as dumb or lacking in Zardari type cunningness as people think he does.
 
I think most of the posters here do not understand the complexity of Kashmir issue and present simple solutions like Pakistan withdrawing their troops from LoC and India holding a referendum in Kashmir. Unfortunately, all these solutions are not viable.

Kashmir is a sensitive issue for both countries. None in Pakistan will agree to giving up Azad Kashmir and that does not include just Army. All right wing parties will completely oppose any such plan. Religious card will be played once again and any such act will be called abandonment of Muslim brothers in Kashmir. Even, left wing parties like PPP will use it as a tool to gain public sympathy by supporting the Kashmir cause. No government will survive such a backlash. We are talking about a country where children have been programmed anti-India and anti-Hindu as soon as they develop any sense of understanding.

The other side in India is not green either. I have personally engaged in Kashmir debate with several Indian relatives, friends, and colleagues, Muslims, Hindus, and Christians. They all have one thing in common. They all consider Kashmir as an integral part of India. No compromise on this issue is acceptable to them. BJP under Modi has turned India into a Hindu nationalist state. Anti-Pakistan sentiment is at an all-time high. Pakistanis are at least willing to give a choice to Kashmirs to form their own independent state. For India, any other solution than a complete annexation will be considered a defeat for India.

If hypothetically Pakistan withdraws troops from LoC and Azad Kashmir, there is no guarantee that that India will not occupy AZK which as a result of initial annexation of Kashmir should be part of India. Before bringing UN into the discussion, people must realize that Kashmir is not a hot issue for the western world. Besides, India has a far better diplomatic standing than Pakistan. If India occupies AZK, UN will show no desperation to undo this act. Another useless UN resolution may be passed which will have no significance. It will be a major embarrassment for Pakistan which will pave way for another military coup. In India, it will be considered as Pakistan's weakness and BJP will fool Indian people for many more years. The issue will continue for another several decades and only Kashmiris will suffer.

All this said, Kashmir needs a solution and it will not be possible until the US, China, Russia, etc. take it seriously rather than considering it as a petty feud between two third-world countries. A better solution would be the withdrawal of troops from both countries and then holding a referendum under a temporary occupation of the UN coalition forces. The peaceful future of the region lies with the existence of smaller states. It may be an unpopular opinion but the previous princely states model will work best eventually where Sindh, Punjab, Hyderabad, Kashmir, etc. exist as separate states.
 
One assumes the events of the last week, the removal of article 370, wasn’t the solution PM Khan was envisaging.
 
I'm sorry on behalf of all secular Indians in failing Imran. BJP coming to power is the worst thing to have happened to our two countries.
 
Have to say IK is a visionary. He knew Modi would solve the Kashmir conundrum
 
Hard to believe this was IK's stance given his recent tweets about Kashmir and Modi.
 
Hard to believe this was IK's stance given his recent tweets about Kashmir and Modi.

He was trying to play mindgames lol

But he has a point. BJP would only have the balls to make the move towards talks like they have the balls to do what they did in Kashmir.

Congress has paralysis of analysis
 
He was trying to play mindgames lol

But he has a point. BJP would only have the balls to make the move towards talks like they have the balls to do what they did in Kashmir.

Congress has paralysis of analysis

Lol at BJP having balls.

Just that India for last half a decade has become an ocean of gullibility. Those gullible souls will buy anything which BJP sells them. They'll even wholeheartedly support them in lynching innocent people. They'll support it in backing the biggest ever scam, demonetisation.
 
Hard to believe this was IK's stance given his recent tweets about Kashmir and Modi.

He’s an optimist and likes to hope and wish for the best in any situation - and if you read between the lines IK was sending a signal to India that we want peace and we wants to resolve issues through talks , not conflict —— but the response from India repeatedly indicates they saw this as a sign of weakness and tried to take advantage and are hell bent on conflict only - and after what’s happened in IOK now they are seeing that as well as an immaculate forward defensive this bloke can play the hook and pull shot quite well too.
 
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Lol at BJP having balls.

Just that India for last half a decade has become an ocean of gullibility. Those gullible souls will buy anything which BJP sells them. They'll even wholeheartedly support them in lynching innocent people. They'll support it in backing the biggest ever scam, demonetisation.

How many people lynched under BJP govt plus make sure to tell BJP workers who got murdered at the same time. I am 125 crores percent sure that the BJP workers died more and less in the same number as lynching numbers.
If you are an educated person you dnt need to fall for the illusion of lynching.
Hardly 50-60 died due to mob lynching lynching in last 6-7 years. India population is world second largest. If you take the ratio then mob lynching is next to negligible. Plus we dnt even have that much police to control this much population. Still we managing somehow.
 
How many people lynched under BJP govt plus make sure to tell BJP workers who got murdered at the same time. I am 125 crores percent sure that the BJP workers died more and less in the same number as lynching numbers.
If you are an educated person you dnt need to fall for the illusion of lynching.
Hardly 50-60 died due to mob lynching lynching in last 6-7 years. India population is world second largest. If you take the ratio then mob lynching is next to negligible. Plus we dnt even have that much police to control this much population. Still we managing somehow.

correct. Don't know how this fact is lost on anti-BJP people. Or they just choose to ignore because it does not suit their agenda.
 
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