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Pew Research: 98% of Indian Muslims are free to practice their religion

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Pew research discovered that 98% of Indian Muslims said that they are free to practice their religion in India, and only 2% answered that they were “not too free” to practice their religion, with virtually no one answering “not at all free”. These findings undermine the politicized narratives of anti-India activists who claim that Muslims in India are facing widespread discrimination.

Salvatore Babones, an American sociologist, used this Pew Research data in a Washington Examiner opinion piece. He made a comparison between the treatment of minorities in India and the US, the source of various stories that cast doubt on India’s democracy.

According to the Pew study, 80% of African-Americans, 46% of Hispanic Americans, and 42% of Asian Americans stated they experience “a lot of discrimination” in the U.S. when asked about religious freedom. If prejudice against Muslims exists in India, it seems to be significantly less severe than that experienced by all of the country’s main minorities.

Muslims living in India were questioned if they were “proud to be Indians”. 90% of respondents indicated they were extremely proud, while 4% said they were moderately proud. These numbers do not appear to be those of a nation on the verge of a genocide against Muslims.

The findings of the Pew study are significant because they challenge the prevailing narrative that Muslims in India are facing widespread discrimination and persecution. This narrative has been perpetuated by some international media outlets and human rights organizations, who have accused the Indian government of discriminating against Muslims.

However, the Pew study suggests that the reality on the ground is very different. Indian Muslims are not only free to practice their religion but are also generally satisfied with their lives and proud to be Indian. This is not to say that there are no instances of discrimination or prejudice against Muslims in India. However, the Pew study suggests that such instances are not as widespread as some activists claim.

Link: https://www.millichronicle.com/2023...lims-are-free-to-practice-their-religion.html
 
98% of what and from where, and does that include Jammu Kashmir ?
 
Pew Research Center (Think tank) - The Pew Research Center is a nonpartisan American think tank based in Washington, D.C. It provides information on social issues, public opinion, and demographic trends shaping the United States and the world.

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In theory a Muslim will always be able to practice their faith, even if locked up, simply praying within ones heart would be the same as practicing the full faith. The Lord knows, the only thing which really matters.

The issue with this is why not the other 2%? Do they live in Modi's area?

Are mosques being demolished part of this survey?

The many woman , men and children beaten or murdered taken into consideration?

The biggest irony is the OP for years has called Muslim invaders but today is telling us India is a shining light for Muslims. Confused.com.
 
In theory a Muslim will always be able to practice their faith, even if locked up, simply praying within ones heart would be the same as practicing the full faith. The Lord knows, the only thing which really matters.

The issue with this is why not the other 2%? Do they live in Modi's area?

Are mosques being demolished part of this survey?

The many woman , men and children beaten or murdered taken into consideration?

The biggest irony is the OP for years has called Muslim invaders but today is telling us India is a shining light for Muslims. Confused.com.

Not at all. Muslims in India today are not invaders. They are our own people whose ancestors accepted Islam years/decades/centuries ago, and I have no problems with that. The actual invaders, or shall I say animals, are long dead and buried.
 
Even if we accept this report at face-value, 2% is still 4 million people.
 
Even if we accept this report at face-value, 2% is still 4 million people.

2% answered that they were “not too free” to practice their religion, with virtually no one answering “not at all free”.
 
If the numbers are true then great. Fellow Muslims living and practicing their religion well should be a happy thiing for every Muslim around the globe. Hoping they address the 2% who are not that free and help them out too.
 
If the numbers are true then great. Fellow Muslims living and practicing their religion well should be a happy thiing for every Muslim around the globe. Hoping they address the 2% who are not that free and help them out too.

Exactly. Every single person in my country should be completely free to practise his or her faith.
 
I have been there and seen things in actual, this research is flawed.

There are barely any mosques, and the mosques are not renovated and severely damaged. The ones that have lawn areas are overgrown

Most of them are living in the poorer areas of New Delhi.

Blind nationalism is a big flaw of India, so in that case it doesnt matter if you muslim or hindu, however to understand the problems of muslim hyou need to first be part of their society. They dont openly go around criticizing or complain about the issues they face or discrimination they face. So a PEW researcher isnt going to be told everything correctly when asked.

I would be interested in the methodology of this research aswell.

If you look at the article that is written, the article is flawed and has loop holes

These findings undermine the politicized narratives of anti-India activists who claim that Muslims in India are facing widespread discrimination
One could practice his religion freely but still not be given jobs etc for being muslim. Thus, the discrimination they judged based on the practise of religion is flawed.

If no one is stopping me from praying, thats well and good. But the thing is will i be refrained from getting a job for being a muslim? Both sets of questions would be different.
 
Any survey that doesn't support the Pakistani narrative that India is a anti-muslim fascist state where muslims are faring worse than Jews in Nazi Germany is flawed.

Any survey that states that Pakistan is better than India in any or every respect is a perfect one, and deserves all accolades.

And you lot expect to be taken seriously :)))
 
I have been there and seen things in actual, this research is flawed.

When the following examples from the videos are being orchestrated even after one month of the train tragedy to falsely blame on any Muslim by the ruling party's men and national media, then the above quote does not seems to be that far fetched.

 
I have been there and seen things in actual, this research is flawed.

There are barely any mosques, and the mosques are not renovated and severely damaged. The ones that have lawn areas are overgrown

Most of them are living in the poorer areas of New Delhi.

Blind nationalism is a big flaw of India, so in that case it doesnt matter if you muslim or hindu, however to understand the problems of muslim hyou need to first be part of their society. They dont openly go around criticizing or complain about the issues they face or discrimination they face. So a PEW researcher isnt going to be told everything correctly when asked.

I would be interested in the methodology of this research aswell.

If you look at the article that is written, the article is flawed and has loop holes


One could practice his religion freely but still not be given jobs etc for being muslim. Thus, the discrimination they judged based on the practise of religion is flawed.

If no one is stopping me from praying, thats well and good. But the thing is will i be refrained from getting a job for being a muslim? Both sets of questions would be different.

Can you explain the following facts if what you wrote above is true wherein you try to paint a picture of Muslims being an endangered species in India:

1. How the WAQF board in India happens to be one of the largest land owner in India ?
2. How vast majority of communal conflicts/ acts of Terror almost always involve Muslims ?
3. How is it that a proper ethnic cleansing of Hindus happened in J&K ?
4. How an event like Godhra where 59 Hindus were burnt alive in broad daylight ?
5. How is a Muslim community in deep down Southern India filing court cases asking Hindu worship being stopped on grounds of them being sinners per Muslim beliefs?
6. Love Jihad / beheading / open threats to kill all Hindus etc.
7. Vociferous and often violent response to attempts to claim Kashi, Mathura and Ayodhya temples that rightfully belong to Hindu's
8. Open belligerent support for historical figures who are boanfide barbarians

The point is that an utterly marginalized community (as you say) cannot fathom Engineering such events decade-after-decade. Infact it paints a completely different picture.
 
Can you explain the following facts if what you wrote above is true wherein you try to paint a picture of Muslims being an endangered species in India:

1. How the WAQF board in India happens to be one of the largest land owner in India ?
2. How vast majority of communal conflicts/ acts of Terror almost always involve Muslims ?
3. How is it that a proper ethnic cleansing of Hindus happened in J&K ?
4. How an event like Godhra where 59 Hindus were burnt alive in broad daylight ?
5. How is a Muslim community in deep down Southern India filing court cases asking Hindu worship being stopped on grounds of them being sinners per Muslim beliefs?
6. Love Jihad / beheading / open threats to kill all Hindus etc.
7. Vociferous and often violent response to attempts to claim Kashi, Mathura and Ayodhya temples that rightfully belong to Hindu's
8. Open belligerent support for historical figures who are boanfide barbarians

The point is that an utterly marginalized community (as you say) cannot fathom Engineering such events decade-after-decade. Infact it paints a completely different picture.

I don't think Major has roamed a lot during his stay here to have an informed opinion. What he is missing our is where there is poverty it's the same for all communities and where there is affluence it's again same for all communities. The other thing is just because people are attached to their ancestral homes, does not necessarily mean that they are living an impoverished life. It's never black and white in a country like India.
 
I don't think Major has roamed a lot during his stay here to have an informed opinion. What he is missing our is where there is poverty it's the same for all communities and where there is affluence it's again same for all communities. The other thing is just because people are attached to their ancestral homes, does not necessarily mean that they are living an impoverished life. It's never black and white in a country like India.

The events that I listed are soo serious and well known anyone with basic abilities to do logical deduction can conclude that such things cannot happen if the community in question is a oppressed community.
 
Not at all. Muslims in India today are not invaders. They are our own people whose ancestors accepted Islam years/decades/centuries ago, and I have no problems with that. The actual invaders, or shall I say animals, are long dead and buried.

Do you consider the Hindu kings who invaded other Hindu empires as animals too?
 
Can you explain the following facts if what you wrote above is true wherein you try to paint a picture of Muslims being an endangered species in India:

1. How the WAQF board in India happens to be one of the largest land owner in India ?
2. How vast majority of communal conflicts/ acts of Terror almost always involve Muslims ?
3. How is it that a proper ethnic cleansing of Hindus happened in J&K ?
4. How an event like Godhra where 59 Hindus were burnt alive in broad daylight ?
5. How is a Muslim community in deep down Southern India filing court cases asking Hindu worship being stopped on grounds of them being sinners per Muslim beliefs?
6. Love Jihad / beheading / open threats to kill all Hindus etc.
7. Vociferous and often violent response to attempts to claim Kashi, Mathura and Ayodhya temples that rightfully belong to Hindu's
8. Open belligerent support for historical figures who are boanfide barbarians

The point is that an utterly marginalized community (as you say) cannot fathom Engineering such events decade-after-decade. Infact it paints a completely different picture.

Most of those are only "facts' according to hindutva bots churning out relentless propaganda. Barely even worth responding to to be honest.
 
Most of those are only "facts' according to hindutva bots churning out relentless propaganda. Barely even worth responding to to be honest.

I suppose they are lacking the approval stamp from Pakistan's Chief Justice for you to accept them as facts ? Otherwise feel free to point out why you don't believe that those events even happened. Heck for starters there are numerous threads on PP discussing most of them with media links
 
I suppose they are lacking the approval stamp from Pakistan's Chief Justice for you to accept them as facts ? Otherwise feel free to point out why you don't believe that those events even happened. Heck for starters there are numerous threads on PP discussing most of them with media links

Read that reply again. See the bit about not responding to bots churning out hindutva propaganda?

It's a pointless exercise, the answer is always the same, Muslims started it, Indian courts adjudicated by majority Hindus have proved it. Rinse and repeat.

Then don't allow independent observers or journalists come and question the hindutva version under some pretext they are carrying out some western conspiracy against India. Rinse and repeat.

Now don't ask me to respond to your drivel again, I have given you the grace of doing it twice now.
 
Former President Obama in an upcoming interview with CNN says it is “appropriate” for President Biden to challenge foreign leaders on issues in their country that are “troubling.”

Obama gave his comments ahead of the official state visit of Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, who has been criticized for his government’s treatment of Muslims and a weakening of press freedoms.

“I do think that it is appropriate for the president of the United States, where he or she can, to uphold those principles and to challenge — whether behind closed doors or in public — trends that are troubling. And so, I’m less concerned about labels than I’m concerned about specific practices,” he told CNN’s Christiane Amanpour.

He added that protecting the rights of minority groups in India is essential.

“Part of my argument would be that if you do not protect the rights of ethnic minorities in India, then there is a strong possibility India at some point starts pulling apart. And we’ve seen what happens when you start getting those kinds of large internal conflicts,” he said.

In the full interview, which will air Thursday night, Obama said that part of the duties as president is to meet with leaders of other countries and their governments, even if they aren’t fully democratic.

“But you have to do business with them — because they’re important for national security reasons — there are a range of economic interests,” he said.

“If the president meets with Prime Minister Modi, then the protection of the Muslim minority in a majority-Hindu India, that’s something worth mentioning,” Obama added.

Biden, Obama’s former vice president, made joint remarks with Modi at the White House on Thursday. The Indian prime minister did not respond to a question about the treatment of Muslims in India ahead of a bilateral meeting.

Modi, on his first state visit to the United States, will also give a joint address to Congress later Thursday, which will be boycotted by some Democrats.

https://thehill.com/policy/internat...ghts-of-ethnic-minorities-in-india-with-modi/
 
Americans View India Favourably But Not PM Modi: Pew Survey in 4 Graphs

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The Pew Survey reveals a slight decline in India's favourability.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi is presently in the United States, on a visit that is expected to be a crucial milestone in Indo-US ties under his government.

To coincide with his visit, Pew Research released data of its latest survey on Indo-US ties on 21 June. Conducted among US citizens in March 2023, the survey focuses on Americans' view of India and specifically Prime Minister Narendra Modi's leadership.

51 Percent Americans View India Favourably

According to the survey, 51 percent of the respondents have a favourable view of India while 44 percent have an unfavourable view of India. These are further subdivided into those who are very favourable, somewhat favourable, somewhat unfavourable and not favourable at all.

It is significant to note that the overall favourability of India among Americans has reduced marginally from 63 percent in 2008 to 51 percent in 2023. The increase in unfavourability, however, is much more stark.

In 2008, only 14 percent Americans surveyed had an unfavourable view of India. This increased to 44 percent in 2023.

Do Americans View India Favourably or Unfavourably?

The percentage of Americans viewing India favourably has reduced from 63% in 2008 to 51% now. Those viewing it unfavourably are up from 14% to 44%.

However, India is still seen much more favourably than countries like China. According to the same survey, 83 percent Americans have a negative view of China.

According to the 2023 survey, 55 percent of Americans with a bachelor’s degree or higher view India positively, while 50 percent of those with some college or less education say the same.

Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents are also somewhat more likely than their Republican and Republican-leaning counterparts to see India favourably (56 percent vs. 48 percent).

Less Americans Confident About PM Modi

In the survey, respondents were asked 'Tell me how much confidence you have in each leader to do the right thing regarding world affairs – a lot of confidence, some confidence, not too much confidence, or no confidence at all. - Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi'. This question was asked regarding other world leaders as well.

According to the March 2023 survey, 40 percent of the Americans surveyed said that they haven't heard of PM Modi. Among those who said they have heard of him, a greater proportion said they do not have confidence in him.

2023: Do Americans Have Confidence in Modi?

We couldn't make a direct comparison with past surveys on this question. The press release by Pew gives data from 2018 and 2019 on this question, but those surveys didn't have the 'haven't heard of him' option.

However, for the sake of comparison we have removed those who answered 'haven't heard of him', 'don't know' and 'don't want to answer' and considered only those who voiced their opinion. This revealed an increase in the proportion of people who don't have much confidence or have no confidence in him.

Do Americans Have Confidence in PM Modi?

Just for the sake of accuracy we have provided the 2018 and 2019 data separately as well, factoring in those who answered 'Don't Know or Can't Say'.

https://www.thequint.com/news/world...-how-americans-view-india-pew-research-survey
 
Read that reply again. See the bit about not responding to bots churning out hindutva propaganda?

It's a pointless exercise, the answer is always the same, Muslims started it, Indian courts adjudicated by majority Hindus have proved it. Rinse and repeat.
.

It helps to read the list properly and understand whats been said there. For instance there is no mention of any court cases involving biased judges. The only one that is remotely connected to courts is the 5th one in the list and even there ALL that is being said is that in a town in deep down south India where there is ZERO Hindutva influence ( Your fav catch-all excuse ) , the Muslim community actually had the gall to approach courts to allow them to legally discriminate by prohibiting Hindu worship.

Let me know if I need to further explain using smaller and easier words what that means and implies.
 
No, they belonged from the Indian subcontinent.

In those days there wasn’t a concept of India in the modern sense.

As per you, the hundreds of thousands of Bengalis who got killed and raped by Maratha forces were like “Oh these are fellow Indians so it’s ok”
 
Can someone please explain what the picture below means? It's from Zee news. I know the text is also important and would like to understand that, but sometimes pictures also matter a great deal. Just a few geniune questions;

1) I believe the man with white hat is shown as muslim, but why is he angry and shown like a villain?
2) And is the guy with beard and his head held high, potrayed as a hero, a hindu? Usually you associate muslims with beards, but in this picture only one is shown with beard.

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Can someone please explain what the picture below means? It's from Zee news. I know the text is also important and would like to understand that, but sometimes pictures also matter a great deal. Just a few geniune questions;

1) I believe the man with white hat is shown as muslim, but why is he angry and shown like a villain?
2) And is the guy with beard and his head held high, potrayed as a hero, a hindu? Usually you associate muslims with beards, but in this picture only one is shown with beard.

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Qurbani ke liye bakra laya...toh hungama

Bakre par bada bawaal :inti
 
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Can someone please explain what the picture below means? It's from Zee news. I know the text is also important and would like to understand that, but sometimes pictures also matter a great deal. Just a few geniune questions;

1) I believe the man with white hat is shown as muslim, but why is he angry and shown like a villain?
2) And is the guy with beard and his head held high, potrayed as a hero, a hindu? Usually you associate muslims with beards, but in this picture only one is shown with beard.

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Note also that the "Hindu" is shown as upright, fair skinned and with western type features, whereas the Muslim is shown as dark, angry and with more typical subcontinent features.

There is so much self hatred and inferiority complex at play here it is almost embarrassing. But don't expect any answers from Indian posters because it exposes their psychosis bare.
 
Note also that the "Hindu" is shown as upright, fair skinned and with western type features, whereas the Muslim is shown as dark, angry and with more typical subcontinent features.

There is so much self hatred and inferiority complex at play here it is almost embarrassing. But don't expect any answers from Indian posters because it exposes their psychosis bare.

Hindus are aryan bro, don't u know Hitler used to send German women to India to mate with the Aryan Hindus, According to Hinduvita historians.
 
Note also that the "Hindu" is shown as upright, fair skinned and with western type features, whereas the Muslim is shown as dark, angry and with more typical subcontinent features.

There is so much self hatred and inferiority complex at play here it is almost embarrassing. But don't expect any answers from Indian posters because it exposes their psychosis bare.
Same tricks as the Germans right before WWII in artwork and movies to villainize the Jews.

Ironically, it’s the Muslims who have beards more often than not and the Hindu who shaves twice a day… lol.
 
I doubt even Pakistan has these numbers. With Sunni and Shia violence, they are not safe to pray a their mosques.
 
That's not true it ain't the 90's anymore
No bomb blasts ever in India in religious places irrespective of religion. Violence is common, but outside of temples or mosques or churches or Gurdwaras.

Pakistan still has militant outfits of Sunnis and Shias.
 
I do not think this is true. Can a Indian Muslim kill a cow for EID in Indian in non Muslim community?
Yes, of course they can. invariably its a BOGOF (buy one get one free) offer though, kill one and you will be included in the deal along with your property being ‘renovated’
 
No bomb blasts ever in India in religious places irrespective of religion. Violence is common, but outside of temples or mosques or churches or Gurdwaras.

Pakistan still has militant outfits of Sunnis and Shias.
Courtesy of india of course… very hospitable nation
 
Can someone please explain what the picture below means? It's from Zee news. I know the text is also important and would like to understand that, but sometimes pictures also matter a great deal. Just a few geniune questions;

1) I believe the man with white hat is shown as muslim, but why is he angry and shown like a villain?
2) And is the guy with beard and his head held high, potrayed as a hero, a hindu? Usually you associate muslims with beards, but in this picture only one is shown with beard.

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I wonder if this idealised vision of a Hindu figurehead was based on a Pakistani?

The below shot is from a Pakistan youtube channel and the figure looks almost a carbon copy except his skin has not been lightened.



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