[PICTURE] Jammu & Kashmir made part of Pakistan’s territory in new political map

[Abdullah719]

The world has stopped blaming Pakistan but still it is listed in the fatf grey list inspite of best efforts..

Pakistan is still in the FATF grey list because it hasn’t fulfilled all the obligations to come off it yet. That is why the govt. has been getting bills passed for anti-money laundering, etc.

In fact, today (the 6th) is the deadline to submit a compliance report, I believe.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Lol..this shows your frustration and ignorance..Only you can help yourself..i hope you get a better life and understanding of this world..

My life is better than 1.3 billion Indians but we are talking of Kashmiris.

They hate India which is why you continue raping, murdering them.

I ask again, if Kashmir is India's , why isnt Pandit Modi welcomed with open arms?

 

[Pakpak]

Keep living in fool's paradise..Modi has been invited with a red carpet by all the major powers..he was honored with the highest civilian awards of their nation by Muslim nations...i already mentioned about billions of dollars of investment and jobs coming to India..On the other hand. Imran becomes a personal driver to Saudi prInce and others ...yet he is not as successful in bringing investments or jobs to Pakistan...India has flourishing relations with the US, Europe,Russia, Japan Australia and some Muslim counties too..these are relations that matter the most... i like your last sentence and will take it..

Under the fascists reign Nepal, Bangladesh, China have all gotten hostile to India outright or in Bangladeshs case are moving away from India. Kashmir, an issue which was dead has been raised thanks to Modi, honestly thanks to Modi and not only that but Indian Muslims have been alienated, lynched, killed with regularity not seen before, something Pakistan could only have dreamed of doing in terms of sabotaging Indiana harmony and India has fractured it's once secular harmony. It has humiliated itself against us last year and then China this year.

You're right I hope you take my last sentence. Modi is the agent Pakistan could never have hoped to have.

This all is not a fools paradise RSS fool, it's reality.

 

[JaDed]

See the zoomed in image in post#10. The ‘clarification’ if you can call it that, is there.

That undefined Frontier is exactly my point IK was so afraid to even put that on a map.. if Srinagar can be mapped what issue is he having mapping Ladakh ?

 

[Oxfordchamp]

Under the fascists reign Nepal, Bangladesh, China have all gotten hostile to India outright or in Bangladeshs case are moving away from India. Kashmir, an issue which was dead has been raised thanks to Modi, honestly thanks to Modi and not only that but Indian Muslims have been alienated, lynched, killed with regularity not seen before, something Pakistan could only have dreamed of doing in terms of sabotaging Indiana harmony and India has fractured it's once secular harmony. It has humiliated itself against us last year and then China this year.

You're right I hope you take my last sentence. Modi is the agent Pakistan could never have hoped to have.

This all is not a fools paradise RSS fool, it's reality.

Another attempt by Pakistan fails!

In today’s meeting of UN Security Council which was closed, informal, not recorded and without any outcome, almost all countries underlined that J&K was bilateral issue & did not deserve time and attention of Council.

 

[Pakpak]

Another attempt by Pakistan fails!

In today’s meeting of UN Security Council which was closed, informal, not recorded and without any outcome, almost all countries underlined that J&K was bilateral issue & did not deserve time and attention of Council.

Nothing India has done in the UN council has ever worked either due to Veto powers.

Good to see you had nothing on my previous points and no reply to my post. That's why I don't debate filthy RSS supporters and that is why welcoem to my ignore list.

 

[Syed1]

The world has stopped blaming Pakistan but still it is listed in the fatf grey list inspite of best efforts..on the other hand, India has seen billions of dollars investment pour into India in the last few months despite of covid..that is what matters..Soft power is this..

LOL you are getting 50,000 corona cases a day, 1000 deaths a day, your industry is experiencing double digit negative growth. If I were Indian I wouldn't be out here talking

 

[Sirris]

Not sure where you get this version of history. Pakistan took control of nearly half of Kashmir from Indian occupation, not vice versa.

Your posts arent making any sense, so please tell us your solution?

It's not history it's what happening right now.

Every other day Indians can do whatever they feel like and all we are left with are cheap shots.

In 90s guys like Masood Azhar would attend militant meetings in Srinagar. Now he is nowhere to be seen. The proxy war is dead.

When Indians cross LOC to AJK that's when we react. But when they keep on oppressing the Kashmiri population we just let it be. This means that we technically don't regard the eastern side of LOC to be equal to the western side.

My suggestion is simple: Make a decision.

Either fully support the militants or don't support them at all. No point of guys like Syed Salahuddin if all he has to offer is a speech on the occasion of Eid and can't really send arm supplies to his followers in the valley.

 

[Thomaskutty]

Either fully support the militants or don't support them at all.

^ It's a bit surreal to see supposedly educated people wondering about whether or not to support terrorism in another country like as if choosing between one candy or another. Such lovely people on this forum lol.

 

[Mesozoic]

My suggestion is simple: Make a decision.

Either fully support the militants or don't support them at all. No point of guys like Syed Salahuddin if all he has to offer is a speech on the occasion of Eid and can't really send arm supplies to his followers in the valley.

It's a tough situation for Pakistani establishment to be in if we're being fair. Sort of like catch a 22.

If they just stay mum about Kashmir i.e admitting no "direct support" to the terrorists, they'll be seen as weak and cowardly by the general public and that could affect their re-election chances.


And if they admit an all out armed and financial support for them, there are ofcourse FATFs and sanctions and whatnot. Basically, they're operating in a limbo mode right now and I don't blame them at all. They're as helpless as they come in this case.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

It's a tough situation for Pakistani establishment to be in if we're being fair. Sort of like catch a 22.

If they just stay mum about Kashmir i.e admitting no "direct support" to the terrorists, they'll be seen as weak and cowardly by the general public and that could affect their re-election chances.


And if they admit an all out armed and financial support for them, there are ofcourse FATFs and sanctions and whatnot. Basically, they're operating in a limbo mode right now and I don't blame them at all. They're as helpless as they come in this case.

Kashmir is not a big election issue in Pakistan. Does not mean its not important to the people of Pakistan, just it does not impact who they will vote for.

Only people who might consider Kashmir to be a factor in who they vote for, are the people of Kashmiri descent in Pakistan, who live predominantly in Punjab. They traditionally vote for PML N, as the PML N is dominated by Kashmiris.

 

[Mesozoic]

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Only people who might consider Kashmir to be a factor in who they vote for, are the people of Kashmiri descent in Pakistan, who live predominantly in Punjab. They traditionally vote for PML N, as the PML N is dominated by Kashmiris.

So you mean the only ones who care for the "plight" of Kashmiris are a few Punjabis of Kashmiri origin?

Then I don't blame the establishment for their relatively reserved attitude towards this matter which TBH is mostly confined to Twitter.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

So you mean the only ones who care for the "plight" of Kashmiris are a few Punjabis of Kashmiri origin?

Then I don't blame the establishment for their relatively reserved attitude towards this matter which TBH is mostly confined to Twitter.

No the rest of the population does care. They care more for Kashmirs then any other Muslim group outside of Pakistan, as they consider Kashmiris to be Pakistanis.

However it wont impact who they vote for.

Then I don't blame the establishment for their relatively reserved attitude towards this matter which TBH is mostly confined to Twitter.

Thats because the strategy of backing militants backfired on Pakistan. The Kashmiri militants were not the ones who attacked Pakistan, however the last 4 years have been relatively peaceful in Pakistan, and they would like to keep it that way. So its too risky too back any armed group in the country, and slowly they have been trying to either mainstream them or disarm them via force.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Accept the LOC as international border and move on. No point for either nation to show territories comfortably controlled by the other country as their own.

 

[gani999]

Accept the LOC as international border and move on. No point for either nation to show territories comfortably controlled by the other country as their own.

That is indeed, the only workable solution.

Accept the LoC as the international border. Kashmiris can choose wherever they want to stay.

 

[Bhaijaan]

That is indeed, the only workable solution.

Accept the LoC as the international border. Kashmiris can choose wherever they want to stay.

I'm very sure 90% people wouldn't mind it.

Thing is, if Kashmir issue gets resolved, people are gonna start asking for jobs and economic prosperity in both nations

Gotta keep some issues unresolved till the end of time to control the masses.

 

[Greenstorm]

It's not history it's what happening right now.

Every other day Indians can do whatever they feel like and all we are left with are cheap shots.

In 90s guys like Masood Azhar would attend militant meetings in Srinagar. Now he is nowhere to be seen. The proxy war is dead.

When Indians cross LOC to AJK that's when we react. But when they keep on oppressing the Kashmiri population we just let it be. This means that we technically don't regard the eastern side of LOC to be equal to the western side.

My suggestion is simple: Make a decision.

Either fully support the militants or don't support them at all. No point of guys like Syed Salahuddin if all he has to offer is a speech on the occasion of Eid and can't really send arm supplies to his followers in the valley.

You are right. I think we should officialy support Kashmiri mujahideen at the state level and use there activities in Kashmir to highlight the issue further.

These days every other nation including US is supporting one group or the other in different countries. This was taboo 10 years ago but now everyone is doing it.

Our leadership is too reluctant and meek for which the Kashmiris are paying.

 

[cricketjoshila]

You are right. I think we should officialy support Kashmiri mujahideen at the state level and use there activities in Kashmir to highlight the issue further.

These days every other nation including US is supporting one group or the other in different countries. This was taboo 10 years ago but now everyone is doing it.

Our leadership is too reluctant and meek for which the Kashmiris are paying.

1. You are not US.

2. This will be declaration of war against a nuclear state.

3. Pakistan is already in the docks in FATF.