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[PICTURE] Ravi Ashwin mankads Jos Buttler without a warning

Yes it was. I just don't like the way its being argued. Spirit of cricket is a mythical beast that everyone describes differently.

They should only argue the rule and its interpretation.

Yeah, I could care less about the moral argument. Bowler is well-within his right to punish the batsman if the batsman is stealing ground and gaining an unfair advantage. However, anyone without an obvious bias can tell that in this case, Buttler had no intention of doing any such thing. If Ashwin had broken the stumps before getting into his stride, Buttler would've been well within his crease.

Umpires messed it up but Ashwin is being rightly called for this ridiculous appeal
 
I hope this dismissal leads to reassessment of mankad rule and bring better final solution.
 
Ashwin after the match "My actions were within cricket's rules, can't be called unsporting."
 
Looks like you need some burnol for the burn Ashwin caused! It's a Legal dismissal and it's decided by the Official Umpires and that's where the story ends!

ah no.

The story doesn't end there.
Match referee will get involve, and most probably ICC will have to give a statement.

This is not your usual Mankading.

In this case, the bowler was in his crease after Ashwin stopped mid way, and only after that he hit the bails. If you look at the time frames aswell, had Ashwin bowled his ball, the batsmen would had still be in crease, it was only after teh ball was released from the hand that the batsmen would had been out of the crease.
 
Some low-life idiots on twitter are attacking his wife with abusive comments for his actions on the field that's well within the laws of cricket! Seriously? RIP Social Media!
 
Some low-life idiots on twitter are attacking his wife with abusive comments for his actions on the field that's well within the laws of cricket! Seriously? RIP Social Media!

Actions do have consequences whilst I don't condone who the abuse is aimed at!

Ugly behaviour from a very ugly individual...
 
Am I seeing something wrong here? Ashwin wasn't even in his bowling action and did it right in the middle of the crease, are people not looking at the pictures and just posting?
 
Just watched a clip.

Did not look like it was done as part of his bowling action. Rather much later.
 
First of all, calling this cheating is OTT reaction!Ashiwn or any other bowler in that situation is entitled and it's a legal dismissal! And official match umpires were involved in the final decision making process too! Secondly, if Butler's dismissal was the only reason for Royal's loss tonight, then I seriously question your understanding about a team sport. Because there were 8 other batsmen after Butler including Smith and none of them were able to score runs against this average attack!
 
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Imagine if an Indian player did this in the world cup v pakistan. It's a disgusting act.
 
This is one of those issues where you can speak for either side and you are still not wrong.In this case Butler's head start was marginal at best. But hey.. he didn't tamper the ball, bite the ball, spiked the pitch or chucked the ball. He did what is legal. He won the game for his side. Otherwise they would have got shellacking.
 
Seems like it was an epic troll of Buttler if he knew that it had been done to him previously by the Lankans. :murali
 
Seems like it was an epic troll of Buttler if he knew that it had been done to him previously by the Lankans. :murali

He is perfectly aware of this. Ashwin. He just used it to make Butler question his cricketing brain lol. One more mankading of Butler means every team will start doing it.
 
He is perfectly aware of this. Ashwin. He just used it to make Butler question his cricketing brain lol. One more mankading of Butler means every team will start doing it.

Haha, I think everyone should start doing it on Buttler now.
 
This is one of those issues where you can speak for either side and you are still not wrong.In this case Butler's head start was marginal at best. But hey.. he didn't tamper the ball, bite the ball, spiked the pitch or chucked the ball. He did what is legal. He won the game for his side. Otherwise they would have got shellacking.

Needs an IPL ban. Ugly behaviour should not be tolerated.
 
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I will be writing to BCCI and ICC to push for a full IPL ban. This is what Ashwin deserves.
 
What Ashwin did was worse than sandpaper gate...

Needs a life ban. Ugly behaviour should not be tolerated.

Are you for real? Sandpaper is against law. Mankading is not against law. Sandpaper gives you unfair adavantage to your bowlers. If anything leaving the crease early before the release is complete gives unfair advantage to the batsman. That is why it is not against the law. Merely "spirit". In my view anyone who gains unfair advantage should have no sympathy. Since i have no way of knowing whether Butler was doing througout the innings, i can't say it is good or bad given that he was mankaded before in his career.
 
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Are you for real? Sandpaper is against law. Mankading is not against law. Sandpaper gives you unfair adavantage to your bowlers. If anything leaving the crease early before the release is complete gives unfair advantage to the batsman. That is why it is not against the law. Merely "spirit". In my view anyone who gains unfair advantage should have no sympathy. Since i have no way of knowing whether Butler was doing througout the innings, i can't say it is good or bad given that he was mankaded before in his career.

Maybe not worse but same kinda level.

I actually use to have a lot of respect and admiration for this guy. Hope all Indian fans will be discarding all their bedroom posters of Ashwin.
 
I don't think any of the players including Ashwin are at fault here. Problem is with the umpire 100%. Maybe ICC should train the umpires better in Mankading situations, after all it is such a rare dismissal. And if Butler keeps getting Mankaded by different bowlers maybe he is taking advantage of the leniency in rules/'spirit of cricket' and getting the initial 2-3 steps forward. He may not have covered a lot of distance before that particular ball but before that in the same innings he was wandering too much before delivery stride. He too needs to mend his ways here.
 
Maybe not worse but same kinda level.

I actually use to have a lot of respect and admiration for this guy. Hope all Indian fans will be discarding all their bedroom posters of Ashwin.

He doesn't have a lot of fans. He is just overmsart. If you think about it, claiming bumped catch should also be viewed with such contempt. Also some say bowling bouncers to tailender is against the spirit. Why? His role is the same as batsman. If he can't bat he should not come out to bat. This "gentleman" aspect of this game must be removed to improve the competitiveness. Otherwise this will remain as a sissy game.
 
Blaming the bowler is so silly, he has every right to appeal. The umpires get enough time and replays to make the call, what stops them from pointing to us the actual ICC rules and getting the right call? And if ICC rules are ambiguous maybe they need to be more detailed and practical. It is not like Ashwin threatened the umpires with an assault rifle and made them give decision in his favour. Mcgrath once appealed for shoulder before wicket of Sachin which was going one feet above stumps and umpire gave it out, who should be blamed in that case?
 
Actions do have consequences whilst I don't condone who the abuse is aimed at!

Ugly behaviour from a very ugly individual...

What, did he kill someone? What he did deserved rape threats in graphic detail to his infant daughters directed at his wife's IG page? And you do seem obsessed over his ugliness, good going.
 
Opposition teams should troll India at the World Cup and just try to mankad their batsmen on every delivery. Don't even ball at them anymore just keep attempting to mankad their players! :)))
 
I wish mankading is taken away from players and the power is given exclusively to umpires. If umpire feels the batsman is backing too much, he should give a warning/card and then give him out during 2nd time offence. Even replays and 3rd umpire can be involved the process so that there is tangible proof of batsmen taking advantage by reducing the distance to cover. ICC needs to come up with precise rules for this purpose. Make the batsmen aware of their transgressions and at the same time keep decision making process consistent, precise.
 
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You know times are tough when even your chucking isn't working so you have to bring out the big guns aka mankading :yk
 
Absolutely disgusting. His after reaction made it even uglier. Never liked the guy.

Dont ever want to see his face again thats how disgusted I am feeling.
 
You know times are tough when even your chucking isn't working so you have to bring out the big guns aka mankading :yk

Ashwin imitated chucking just to bring ICC's focus on chucking and he is openly against chucking. Probably the last off spinner in history will be called for chucking.
 
Anybody who Mankads is a hero.

Stay in your crease until you see the bowler release the ball, this isn't difficult.
 
Too many posters are missing the point here when defending Ashwin. It's like common sense has gone out the window for them. There are two major points worth discussing:

1. What is the exact law regarding mankading? I think it's fair to say that there is no need for a warning as that is not part of the law. But can the batsman leave the crease when the bowler is in his bowling stride or does he have to wait until after the ball is released? It would help if the ICC makes this rule as clear as possible.

2. My assumption and that of many others is that the bowler cannot pull out of his bowling stride to run out a batsman. Because once he gets into his action and doesn't deliver then it is ruled a deadball. The other reason is because then the game becomes petty, and you'll have bowlers that go through their motions and set players up and mankad them. If my interpretation of law is correct then both Ashwin and the umpire in this case are wrong.

It's also not a good look for cricket that the ICC has not come out and given us clarity on the law. It seems like they don't know what the exact law is themselves.
 
The game is over and KXIP have received the points. If the cricketing world is so high on morals as they claim to be on social media, I am sure this is never going to happen again. So why worry? Ashwin is not going to play in the World Cup for India or in LOI ever. So not sure about the hue and cry over the incident.
 
Too many posters are missing the point here when defending Ashwin. It's like common sense has gone out the window for them. There are two major points worth discussing:

1. What is the exact law regarding mankading? I think it's fair to say that there is no need for a warning as that is not part of the law. But can the batsman leave the crease when the bowler is in his bowling stride or does he have to wait until after the ball is released? It would help if the ICC makes this rule as clear as possible.

2. My assumption and that of many others is that the bowler cannot pull out of his bowling stride to run out a batsman. Because once he gets into his action and doesn't deliver then it is ruled a deadball. The other reason is because then the game becomes petty, and you'll have bowlers that go through their motions and set players up and mankad them. If my interpretation of law is correct then both Ashwin and the umpire in this case are wrong.

It's also not a good look for cricket that the ICC has not come out and given us clarity on the law. It seems like they don't know what the exact law is themselves.

Wait... you suggest as if Ashwin gave him out. He merely appealed. It is the job of umpire to make the call. Why do you blame Ashwin here? Have you not seen people appealing for obvious not outs?

Second of all, batsman SHOULD NOT leave the crease until the ball is released. That includes bowlers delaying things. You cannot assume he has finished releasing the ball.

Whatever you say is figment of your imagination. Not the actual law. I don't defend him for doing that. It was a bit unsportsmanlike. Having said that Butler is not exactly free of any wrong. He has been mankaded before. May be he is a serial offender gaining 2 or 3 extra inch. You know how many people get saved by few inches from getting run out. So let us not try to make up theories that don't exist under the pretext "spirit of the game". First of all if you ask me it is total ** to gain advantage by being outside the crease. Trust me. I have played cricket. I never lifted the bat from the crease until the ball was bowled. My would be outside, but bat would always be inside. An international cricketer should not even be doing this let alone justifying this.
 
Too many posters are missing the point here when defending Ashwin. It's like common sense has gone out the window for them. There are two major points worth discussing:

1. What is the exact law regarding mankading? I think it's fair to say that there is no need for a warning as that is not part of the law. But can the batsman leave the crease when the bowler is in his bowling stride or does he have to wait until after the ball is released? It would help if the ICC makes this rule as clear as possible.

2. My assumption and that of many others is that the bowler cannot pull out of his bowling stride to run out a batsman. Because once he gets into his action and doesn't deliver then it is ruled a deadball. The other reason is because then the game becomes petty, and you'll have bowlers that go through their motions and set players up and mankad them. If my interpretation of law is correct then both Ashwin and the umpire in this case are wrong.

It's also not a good look for cricket that the ICC has not come out and given us clarity on the law. It seems like they don't know what the exact law is themselves.

The 3rd umpire was Bruce Oxenford.
He is an Elite-Panel Umpire, who is required to get around 94% decisions correct per year to maintain that status.
There are only a handful of them in the circuit.
End of story.
 
Is it within rules? Yes or figuratively yes.

Anything within rules to win.

Better than biting the ball or digging up pitches to win.
 
Some of the guys who want to crucify Ashwin over this also felt sorry for Smith who committed a coordinated illegal activity on the cricket fiedl which was like 100 times worse. Think about the advantage Australia got through that.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sorry - one more thing to add. If Ben Stokes did what Ashwin did to <a href="https://twitter.com/imVkohli?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@imVkohli</a> it would be ok ? I’m just very disappointed in Ashwin as I thought he had integrity & class. Kings lost a lot of supporters tonight. Especially young boys and girls ! I do hope the BCCI does something</p>— Shane Warne (@ShaneWarne) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShaneWarne/status/1110284190501736452?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 25, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">And to all the people (including ex players) saying it’s in the laws of the game, but you don’t like what he did & you wouldn’t do it - I ask you this “why wouldn’t you?” ! Simple answer - it’s disgraceful and embarrassing plus it’s against the spirit of the game !</p>— Shane Warne (@ShaneWarne) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShaneWarne/status/1110282014303944706?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 25, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Last point on the embarrassing & disgraceful act of <a href="https://twitter.com/ashwinravi99?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ashwinravi99</a> ! This win at all costs mentality has got to stop & the integrity of the game along with the spirit of the game must be of the most importance, as we need to set examples to the young boys & girls playing cricket !</p>— Shane Warne (@ShaneWarne) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShaneWarne/status/1110280352608727040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 25, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All these players like <a href="https://twitter.com/Eoin16?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Eoin16</a> Micheal Lumb etc talking about it’s horrible from <a href="https://twitter.com/ashwinravi99?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ashwinravi99</a> y’all mad as hell how many times y’all nick the ball and stood ground and smile oh sorry mate it’s the umpires fault &#55358;&#56631;&#55356;&#57342;*♂️....isn’t it in the spirit of the game to walk as well.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KickRocks?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KickRocks</a></p>— Tino95 (@tinobest) <a href="https://twitter.com/tinobest/status/1110304011759038465?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 25, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Last point on the embarrassing & disgraceful act of <a href="https://twitter.com/ashwinravi99?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ashwinravi99</a> ! This win at all costs mentality has got to stop & the integrity of the game along with the spirit of the game must be of the most importance, as we need to set examples to the young boys & girls playing cricket !</p>— Shane Warne (@ShaneWarne) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShaneWarne/status/1110280352608727040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 25, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Australians should be the last to talk about spirit of cricket. I like their fighting spirit. Not their "other spirit" lol You could write an encyclopedia about it.
 
Then why it's in the rules? If warning should've been given is the rule. Then why Umpires gave him OUT?

Nothing controversial here.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I would say to all India ex players/Pundits who are supportive of what R Ashwin did ... If <a href="https://twitter.com/imVkohli?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@imVkohli</a> was Batting would you be so supportive !!??? <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NightAll?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NightAll</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IPL?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IPL</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OnON?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#OnON</a></p>— Michael Vaughan (@MichaelVaughan) <a href="https://twitter.com/MichaelVaughan/status/1110282867093979138?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 25, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Last point on the embarrassing & disgraceful act of <a href="https://twitter.com/ashwinravi99?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ashwinravi99</a> ! This win at all costs mentality has got to stop & the integrity of the game along with the spirit of the game must be of the most importance, as we need to set examples to the young boys & girls playing cricket !</p>— Shane Warne (@ShaneWarne) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShaneWarne/status/1110280352608727040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 25, 2019</a></blockquote>
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My age old mantra of ignore whatever Shane Warne says continues to be right for another year
 
Would really like to know how many of these morons, most of whom are batsmen walked when umpire gave them not out but they knew they edged it. Spirit of cricket only when it suits us is **.
 
Butler DID shake Ashwin's hand afterwards. The pic and clip mentioned in thid thread is misleading.
 
The 3rd umpire was Bruce Oxenford.
He is an Elite-Panel Umpire, who is required to get around 94% decisions correct per year to maintain that status.
There are only a handful of them in the circuit.
End of story.

1. What does him being an elite-panel umpire have to do with anything? Has an umpire from the elite-panel never made an error before?

2. Does that 94% ratio apply to non-international matches such as the IPL?

What a ridiculous argument to make. As I said before, this is a matter of ICC providing clarity regarding the law.

You’re doing a real disservice to your own username here.
 
Wait... you suggest as if Ashwin gave him out. He merely appealed. It is the job of umpire to make the call. Why do you blame Ashwin here? Have you not seen people appealing for obvious not outs?

Second of all, batsman SHOULD NOT leave the crease until the ball is released. That includes bowlers delaying things. You cannot assume he has finished releasing the ball.

Whatever you say is figment of your imagination. Not the actual law. I don't defend him for doing that. It was a bit unsportsmanlike. Having said that Butler is not exactly free of any wrong. He has been mankaded before. May be he is a serial offender gaining 2 or 3 extra inch. You know how many people get saved by few inches from getting run out. So let us not try to make up theories that don't exist under the pretext "spirit of the game". First of all if you ask me it is total ** to gain advantage by being outside the crease. Trust me. I have played cricket. I never lifted the bat from the crease until the ball was bowled. My would be outside, but bat would always be inside. An international cricketer should not even be doing this let alone justifying this.

I don’t think you know the law. The law is unclear because it says the batsman can leave the crease after the bowler is expected to release the ball. Buttler leaves the crease a little bit after Ashwin’s front foot lands so make of that what you will. All I’ve given you is my interpretation of law that you’re clearly uneducated about.

I don’t think you’ve played cricket. Playing cricket in your hallway with your imaginary friends doesn’t count. Neither does getting your younger sibling to give you throw downs with a plastic ball. Judging by your post, you’re incapable of having played at a level any higher than that.

Speaking of imaginations, you need to tone yours down. You’ve clearly imagined that I talked about the spirit of the game in my post. I never even mentioned it because it’s no longer relevant when discussing mankading.

Finally, go outside and make some friends. This is a cricket forum if this is creating such a rise in your emotions then talk to your health provider. Maybe seek a therapist if making friends is too hard.
 
Ravichandran Ashwin saw nothing wrong with his decision to run Jos Buttler out at the non-striker's end for backing up too far in their Indian Premier League match.

The law is on the side of the bowler, but Buttler's controversial dismissal on Monday, 25 March, when his Rajasthan Royals took on Kings XI Punjab, sparked the 'Spirit of Cricket' debate.

The law 41.16, that was tweaked in April 2017, states: "If the non-striker is out of his/her ground from the moment the ball comes into play to the instant when the bowler would normally have been expected to release the ball, the bowler is permitted to attempt to run him/her out."

Buttler and Ashwin exchanged words after the Englishman's dismissal – AFP Buttler and Ashwin exchanged words after the Englishman's dismissal – AFP
While delivering the fifth ball of the 13th over, Ashwin stopped in his delivery stride. The side-on angle showed that Buttler was still inside the crease when Ashwin's foot landed. But soon he took a couple of steps out of the crease and Ashwin turned around to whip the bails off at the bowler's end.

Ashwin defended his decision in the post-match press conference, saying, "Look, it was very instinctive. It was not planned or anything like that. It's there within the rules of the game. I don't understand where the spirit of the game comes. Naturally if it's there in the rules it's there.

"I don't understand the point of sporting or sportive in that point because it's rules."

Buttler was livid and there was a heated exchange between the two players as he walked back to the pavilion. Paddy Upton, the coach, was none too pleased either.

"I think R Ashwin's actions speak for him and represent him," Upton said. "When I looked into the eyes of his team-mates, I'm not sure it represented his team-mates and I think we'll leave it up to the IPL fans to decide if that's the kind of things they want to see and we'll leave it to the cricket world to judge R Ashwin's actions tonight.

"But for us, we certainly are here just to play cricket and entertain the fans and just be good role models for people who love the game."

Some experts pointed out that Buttler had not actually left the crease when Ashwin stopped in his delivery stride, meaning he could not be given out as per the rules. Uptown agreed this was something the teams would need clarity on.

"I would still like to go and have a close look at the legality of it," he said. "But for us, the reality is Ashwin appealed and the umpire gave it out. That's what we need to deal with.

"The legality is a separate issue, and probably a lot of teams are going to look more closely at that issue. I'd like to hope that the rest of the IPL continues in the spirit that we're all here to come here and enjoy."

Buttler scored a 43-ball 69 before being run out at the non-striker's end by Ashwin – AFP Buttler scored a 43-ball 69 before being run out at the non-striker's end by Ashwin – AFP
The dismissal ended Buttler's knock at 69, and Rajasthan fell short by 15 runs while chasing the 185 set by Punjab. The coach, though, was proud of his team.

"Jos Buttler was amazing while he was batting and for a lot of the game we batted like we wanted and really set ourselves up for victory," he said. "I thought the players were able to stay focussed and reset themselves after that run-out. I was very happy with the players themselves, the way they acted and responded to that situation. And our conscious decision was to hold our heads up high and maintain our dignity as a team."

Ashwin, however, refused to acknowledge the opener's dismissal as the turning point of the game and instead hailed Sam Curran's double-wicket 17th over as the watershed moment. "Sam [Curran] had a bad day with the ball, but he came back well. Everybody ticked their boxes. We do have a few options amongst us, but if we can have good five overs, there is nothing like it," he said.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I support every bowler who does it.Whether that bowler is English or from the Arctic,since every1 is justifying the non striker,might as well they stand at the half way mark of the pitch before the ball is released,can't ratify wrong just coz batsmen hav been doing it 4 too long <a href="https://t.co/uZC6DjuYMO">https://t.co/uZC6DjuYMO</a></p>— Kartik Murali (@kartikmurali) <a href="https://twitter.com/kartikmurali/status/1110357629732184064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 26, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I support every bowler who does it.Whether that bowler is English or from the Arctic,since every1 is justifying the non striker,might as well they stand at the half way mark of the pitch before the ball is released,can't ratify wrong just coz batsmen hav been doing it 4 too long <a href="https://t.co/uZC6DjuYMO">https://t.co/uZC6DjuYMO</a></p>— Kartik Murali (@kartikmurali) <a href="https://twitter.com/kartikmurali/status/1110357629732184064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 26, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Pretty biased of some players to defend Ashwin here.

These are the facts :

1) Butler was in the crease when Ashwin was already moving forward in his run up.

2) Ashwin stopped midway and Butler was still in his crease.

3) Ashwin waited for Butler to move out of the crease.

4) Butler, looking towards the striker's end and not expecting that Ashwin will stop midway through his run up, moved out of the crease.

5) Ashwin mankaded him.

6) Had Ashwin gone through his run up at his normal pace and motion, Butler would not have been out of the crease before the ball was released.

7) Crucial point is that batsmen always anticipate subconsciously the pace of motion of the bowler's action and move out of the crease according to that. Ashwin took advantage of this by doing something which was not normal i.e. altering his normal motion by stopping suddenly and waiting.

8) there are some conventions and norms in cricket which are respected by all. The batsman should have been warned at least once.

9) Ashwin has previously shown his support for mankading and hence his claim that he didnt plan the act becomes doubtful.

10) Umpires should have done better.
 
ashwin was in favor of keemo paul also when he did mankading in u19 worldcup 2016 against Zimbabwe when Zimbabwe needed 1 run to win with last wicket remaining. Nonstrikers will be alert against him next time
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">And to all the people (including ex players) saying it’s in the laws of the game, but you don’t like what he did & you wouldn’t do it - I ask you this “why wouldn’t you?” ! Simple answer - it’s disgraceful and embarrassing plus it’s against the spirit of the game !</p>— Shane Warne (@ShaneWarne) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShaneWarne/status/1110282014303944706?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 25, 2019</a></blockquote>
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This clown should be the last person to talk about spirit of the game.
 
Was Ashwin really expecting Buttler to shake his hand.

No handshake after the game.

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they did shakehands.. Ashwin want to say something but Butler just move..
 
The Law - 41.16 Non-striker leaving his/her ground early

If the non-striker is out of his/her ground from the moment the ball comes into play to the instant when the bowler would normally have been expected to release the ball, the bowler is permitted to attempt to run him/her out. Whether the attempt is successful or not, the ball shall not count as one in the over.

If the bowler fails in an attempt to run out the non-striker, the umpire shall call and signal Dead ball as soon as possible.

https://www.lords.org/mcc/laws/unfair-play

Buttler is actually seen BREAKING the law in the first pic of the embedded tweet. Luckily for him, he didn't break the law on the speficic deliver when his dismissal was effected unless the rule has changed (some sources quote it) where one has to stay inside the crease TILL the ball is released

So Buttler will keep stealing inches but bowlers have to show restraint because ONLY they have to uphold spirit of cricket?

If a bowler ever so much has the guts to call out this nonsense by effecting a run out, it's against spirit of cricket?

But captains who reverse these decisions by ALLOWING these batsmen to get away with this nonsense are angels? lol.

It's not like Buttler HAD never done this before. It's a habit for him. Luckily for him, he stayed on a touch more the dismissal yesterday so he has a wave of sympathy directed towards him.

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I can see why Buttler would be annoyed and I can understand the pain. But at the end of the day, he tried to steal inches and you can see it from his history.

If this is in the rules, it's out. If it's not, then umpires should be questioned for taking the call.

Ashwin can be a jerk (and delusional at times) but I don't see how he can be blamed here.

Good on him to AGAIN show up the hypocrisy of cricketing rules.

Now this rule will be crystallized so we don't have hear lectures from guys like Shane Warne who has a mile long rap sheet of bad behavior. :))
 
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In this case, the bowler was in his crease after Ashwin stopped mid way, and only after that he hit the bails. If you look at the time frames aswell, had Ashwin bowled his ball, the batsmen would had still be in crease, it was only after teh ball was released from the hand that the batsmen would had been out of the crease.
Not true.
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Comparing it to another delivery bowled by Ashwin, Buttler would've been out of his crease when the ball was delivered.

Here's the frame-by-frame.
 
The Argument that he WAITED for the Buttler to leave the crease, so Ash is wrong. Lol, how else he suppose to Mankad a batsman if he didn't wait. What was Buttler doing then? People who understands that why this kind of rule is in place, will support Ashwin for this.

lol no
 
I did it once in gully cricket as a kid & was taught a lesson in the spirit of the game.. never did it again , Asswin won’t make many fans after this so I will call it a chaval harkat,
 
World Cup 1987: Courtney Walsh's sporting gesture costs West Indies a semi-final berth

With 10 runs to be scored from 3 balls, Walsh ran in. He might have been perturbed by his mis-field in the previous ball, but his silken run-up was all calm. He bowled very straight, but had committed the grave sin of pitching it up. Qadir, who went wicketless earlier in the day, had noticed that the long-off was up. He moved to the leg-side, exposing all three stumps and essayed a shot with all the power he had. He timed it well. The ball soared over long-off for six!

The home crowd went wild. Pakistan required only 4 from 2 balls now. And what seemed impossible was now within their grip. Once again Qadir moved towards the leg-side, Walsh decided to follow him with an attempted yorker, and this time Yousuf managed to hit it to deep extra-cover as the batsmen ran another two.

With 2 required from the final delivery, Walsh approached the stumps for what was supposed to be the last time in the match. However, Jaffar had quite expectedly got a bit too carried away by the heat of the moment, and nerves gave in as he had backed up a bit too much before Walsh had delivered the ball. Walsh ran up to the stumps and stopped. And then, as the hearts of millions stopped, he simply warned Jaffar and went back to the bowling mark (Watch the last two minutes of the video), with a characteristic wry smile on his face.

https://www.cricketcountry.com/arti...ure-costs-west-indies-a-semifinal-berth-18838

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That was disgraceful.

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I don't really understand why the bowler gets shamed for running a batsmen out for trying to steal a run. It's well within the law of the game, not to mention no where does it say that he needs to INFORM/WARN the batsmen atleast once before sending him back. How is trying to steal a easy run not disgraceful? This shaming of the players needs to stop. Either remove it from the rule book or stop shaming the players for implementing the law. If mankinding a batsmen is against the "Spirit of the game" then it should not be in the rule book to begin with. ICC needs to rethink this.

P.S just saw Ashwin + his daughter getting insults thrown at them from left to write on a picture of his daughter on instagram. Fans are freaking disgraceful if you ask me for something so silly ...
 
Win at all costs hey, not surprised its been done by an Indian player again.
 
they did shakehands.. Ashwin want to say something but Butler just move..

They shook hands, Paddy Upton the coach did not shake is hand i believe and had words with Ashwin, which led to that embarrassed surprised look on his face. Paddy didn't hold back in his press conference either.
 
This mode of dismissal is akin to back-stabbing: BCCI official on Ashwin ‘mankading’ Buttler

New Delhi: Kings XI Punjab (KXIP) skipper Ravichandran Ashwin might have called his decision to ‘mankad’ Rajasthan Royals (RR) batsman Jos Buttler in Jaipur on Monday as instinctive, but the Royals weren’t impressed, with skipper Ajinkya Rahane, head coach Paddy Upton and brand ambassador Shane Warne making their displeasure known.

With the matter snowballing, even the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) has said that the captain should have maintained decorum and that even the match officials failed in their duty.

A senior BCCI official said that only cricketing skills should be used on the pitch to dismiss batsmen and that gives out the correct message to those watching and learning.

“The match officials have failed in their duty with the handling of this issue. Buttler ought to have been adjudged not out if the laws were applied squarely to the situation. Ashwin also must understand that laws and the spirit of the game both have to be kept in mind.

“A player is supposed to deceive the other with his cricketing skills and not with shady skills. If the batsman is taking advantage, deal with it in the right way – as a gentleman. Competitiveness is all very well but a standard of decorum ought to be maintained,” the official said.

Another official said that these things impact the popularity of the individual and criticism is bound to follow.

“This mode of dismissal is akin to back-stabbing. That is why it will always be criticised. It gets you the result, but you surely won’t win a popularity contest this way,” he said.

But the official added that two wrongs don’t make one right and Buttler should have left what happened on the field and shaken hands with Ashwin after the game.

“Buttler not shaking hands with Ashwin after the game was also against the spirit of the game. Both these things are inexcusable where the spirit of the game is concerned,” the official said.

https://www.cricketcountry.com/news...ichandran-ashwin-mankading-jos-buttler-819692
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Absolutely right! <br>We batsmen just got lazy assuming bowlers to be nice guys...guess what bowlers aren’t going to be nice anymore, and rightly so....batsmen wake up! <a href="https://t.co/E67wfmQGIm">https://t.co/E67wfmQGIm</a></p>— Sanjay Manjrekar (@sanjaymanjrekar) <a href="https://twitter.com/sanjaymanjrekar/status/1110473779019288576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 26, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Mankad 'doesn't sit well' with Aussies

Hazlewood told 'The Unplayable Podcast' he did not consider Buttler was flagrantly trying to crib ground before Ashwin had released the ball, and that the wording and the application of the 'Mankad' law needed to be revised.

"I'm not happy with it at all," Hazlewood said of Buttler's dismissal that proved a turning point in Rajasthan's ultimately unsuccessful run chase.

"I don’t think it should be in the game, to be honest.

"Maybe if the batters really start to take advantage, then the umpire needs to step in.

"But I don't think you should be able to get a batsman out that way, and even in this instance Jos Buttler was hardly out of his crease.

"He wasn't jogging with the bowler, he wasn't running – he was pretty stationary to be honest."

Speaking to reporters in Abu Dhabi on the eve of Australia’s third one-dayer against Pakistan, Cummins took a similar view.

"It didn't really sit well with me to be honest,” said Cummins, who watched the game unfold live.

"If a batsman is trying to steal a run you can kind of understand but I didn't think Jos was doing anything untoward there.

"I thought it was a pretty bad look to be honest.

"I spoke to a couple of the boys and they all sort of said the same, that it didn't really sit well with them.

"When you're talking millimetres and you're looking the other way … you could probably almost argue then when he was going to release the ball he would have been in his crease.

"The rule is there. But I thought in that instance it was a real stretch of the rule to try and get a wicket.

"I wouldn't want to win a game like that. "

However, Hazlewood's former fast-bowler Test teammate Mitchell Johnson deemed that it was within the laws of the cricket and, therefore, it was also a valid method of dismissal according to the game's often-debated spirit.

Johnson, who previously played for Kings XI Punjab added that - unlike Ashwin - he would have issued a courtesy warning to any batter who transgressed, before enacting the dismissal if his rival continued to flout the law.

Like Cummins, Hazlewood claimed that unless there was an obvious case of a non-striker trying to 'sneak' a run, any move by a bowler to feign a delivery and instead hold on to the ball to complete a run out fell outside the spirit of the game.

He also noted that the increased occurrence of batters being run out at the non-striker's end when the ball deflects from a bowler's hand (or other parts of their body) further highlighted the risk taken by players who back-up too far, and too enthusiastically.

Although he did not believe Buttler was guilty of either oversight in the IPL incident overnight.

"Definitely not in this instance, and maybe we need to tinker with the rules a little bit to work out a certain way (of clarifying run outs by bowlers)," Hazlewood said.

"I think it should be out (abolished) completely.

"It just comes down to common sense I think, and playing in that spirit of the game as everyone talks about.

"I just don't think it's a great way to get a wicket."

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/haz...ajasthan-kings-xi-video-unplayable/2019-03-26
 
I don't really understand why the bowler gets shamed for running a batsmen out for trying to steal a run. It's well within the law of the game, not to mention no where does it say that he needs to INFORM/WARN the batsmen atleast once before sending him back. How is trying to steal a easy run not disgraceful? This shaming of the players needs to stop. Either remove it from the rule book or stop shaming the players for implementing the law. If mankinding a batsmen is against the "Spirit of the game" then it should not be in the rule book to begin with. ICC needs to rethink this.

P.S just saw Ashwin + his daughter getting insults thrown at them from left to write on a picture of his daughter on instagram. Fans are freaking disgraceful if you ask me for something so silly ...

The problem here being Buttler isn't trying to steal a run. He'd probably have been in his crease when Ashwin released the ball if he just went through with it.
 
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