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[PICTURE/VIDEO] The "NO-BALL" bowled to Virat Kohli by Mohammad Nawaz

Was the decision to declare Mohammad Nawaz's ball as a no-ball, the correct one?


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That wide ball to Ashwin was even more inexcusable. That was unbelievably dumb from Nawaz.

Pretty much every ball he bowled was wide. To Karthik, To Pandya. Just that they went after ball in a mad panic. His whole plan was not giving room and darting down the leg side. If they were smart about it they could have forced him to bowl in the arc. India should have finished it in 3 or 4 balls. Most of them were atrocious balls. He got away mostly due to panic from Indian batsmen.
 
Umpire had to review it if he initially refused it. Kohli can't force umpire to change his decision. It was typical old Kohli when he is losing he comes back to his old habits.

Umpires cannot review no balls unless there is a dismissal. Thats the law.

Kohli did nothing wrong. As a batsman its his right.
 
Umpires cannot review no balls unless there is a dismissal. Thats the law.

Kohli did nothing wrong. As a batsman its his right.

Kohli asked for noball even previous ball that was much higher. Given that DK is a short guy it was at his chest level. DK stepped out otherwise that was a noball too.
 
Umpires can't review wide or height no ball call till their is a wicket.
Period!!
The call was marginal just like numerous wide ball calls which happen in every match. This just happened at a crucial moment.
Rest is clutching of straws.

Only sad part is that many Pakistani ATGs are clutching the same straw which is adding fuel to conspiracy theories.

Which ATGs talking about it? I thought the regular ones who come on TV incl Wasim, waqar, misbah, Malik were very gracious and thought no ball was 50-50.
 
Pretty much every ball he bowled was wide. To Karthik, To Pandya. Just that they went after ball in a mad panic. His whole plan was not giving room and darting down the leg side. If they were smart about it they could have forced him to bowl in the arc. India should have finished it in 3 or 4 balls. Most of them were atrocious balls. He got away mostly due to panic from Indian batsmen.

I agree with this. Both teams were panicking like crazy, esp the batsmen in both innings. Kohli was the only one who was able to stay level headed, and that’s because he’s more than used to this level of pressure by now. Even Pandya choked under pressure there. 9/10 he would’ve deposited that ball into the stands, but top edged it.

P much every Indian batsmen couldn’t handle the occasion that night. Y’all gave Shaheen far too much respect till the over Kohli took him on, just like we gave Kohli too much respect. Shaheen was clearly restraining himself and wasn’t bowling like himself.

This is why under Dhoni we struggled to defeat you in WCs. And the 2 close games we had in 2007 t20 WC, you won.

Captain remaining calm helps A LOT. He’s the father figure of the team.

Btw, in case of a bowl out, he had the 3 bowlers used for the bowl out practice bowling at the stumps for the whole tournament in case of a tie like that. So that wasn’t luck. Just incredible foresight.
 
I agree with this. Both teams were panicking like crazy, esp the batsmen in both innings. Kohli was the only one who was able to stay level headed, and that’s because he’s more than used to this level of pressure by now. Even Pandya choked under pressure there. 9/10 he would’ve deposited that ball into the stands, but top edged it.

P much every Indian batsmen couldn’t handle the occasion that night. Y’all gave Shaheen far too much respect till the over Kohli took him on, just like we gave Kohli too much respect. Shaheen was clearly restraining himself and wasn’t bowling like himself.

This is why under Dhoni we struggled to defeat you in WCs. And the 2 close games we had in 2007 t20 WC, you won.

Captain remaining calm helps A LOT. He’s the father figure of the team.

Btw, in case of a bowl out, he had the 3 bowlers used for the bowl out practice bowling at the stumps for the whole tournament in case of a tie like that. So that wasn’t luck. Just incredible foresight.

Dhoni's philosophy is "Bowlers are more under pressure than batsmen" in the last over. He will make zero movement until the balls is released. No reverse sweep attempt, no scoop attempt.. Bowler will have no clue what he is going to do and will end up bowling a regular ball in the arc. He can hit a six from standing position. He is that powerful. He doesn't really have to run down the wicket. Even Yuvraj admitted i never want to take the match to last over. INdia misses such a guy.
 
Umpire had to review it if he initially refused it. Kohli can't force umpire to change his decision. It was typical old Kohli when he is losing he comes back to his old habits.

Every batsman and his dog gesture to the leg umpire when they feel they have been bowled a full toss above waist height (or a bouncer above the head). Kohli isn't remotely an outlier in this.
 
Warching that no ball fiasco makes my blood boil. Kohli in no right to force umpires and incompetent umpire had no authority to give no ball after intially refusing it. This whole saga left bad taste in the match. Terrible end to such a great game

Don't you ever watched a cricket game? Batsman always does that.. it's nothing new in cricket.. and sometimes keeper appeals for a catch when he know it's a wide (to confiluse umpire to not give wide) ..
 
"Bowlers Should Be...": Australia Great's Huge Statement On India vs Pakistan Dead-Ball Debate

Former Australia captain Greg Chappell has called for a review of the laws of cricket, saying if the ball beats the bat and hits the stumps during a free-hit it should be declared dead to credit the bowlers as the game is already tilted in the favour of batters. An over-the-waist no ball and three byes off the subsequent free hit in the final over had helped India claim a memorable victory against Pakistan in the ongoing T20 World Cup last week.

However, there has been a lot of discussion around why the free-hit ball was not called dead immediately after it hit the stumps.

Former cricketers have objected that a batter bowled off a free-hit would result in a dead ball that prevents further scoring from the same delivery.

"I would review that rule to give the bowler credit for the dead ball if he is good enough to beat the bat and hit the stumps," Chappell wrote in his column for 'The Sydney Morning Herald'.

With India needing 13 off three balls, Virat Kohli hit a six off a waist-high full toss which was adjudged a no ball.

"There is no doubt that the umpires got their calls right in the glare of the spotlight, but one must ask: is a ball that is hit for six really a no-ball? "The height of a delivery is monitored closely, especially in late overs, because it was often been used as a run saving delivery. But it can't be argued on this occasion that that was the outcome." The next ball was a wide. Kohli was then bowled off the free-hit but as the ball ricocheted off the stumps towards the third-man fielder Kohli and Dinesh Karthik collected three bye runs.

"As for the three byes off the stumps, one must ask: is that really what the tour conditions are trying to achieve? In a game where the balance is already well in favour of the batsman, what more is a bowler meant to do? "If a bowler is good enough to bowl the perfect yorker, as Nawaz did, why does he need to be punished any further? (It is much like NZ being punished for accidental overthrows from the opponents bat which cost them the 50-over World Cup Final at The Oval in 2019.)," he wrote.

The MCC's Laws of Cricket states that "The ball becomes dead when..

"20.1.1.1 it is finally settled in the hands of the wicket-keeper or of the bowler.

"20.1.1.2 a boundary is scored.

"20.1.1.3 a batter is dismissed. The ball will be deemed to be dead from the instant of the incident causing the dismissal."

NDTV
 
"Bowlers Should Be...": Australia Great's Huge Statement On India vs Pakistan Dead-Ball Debate

Former Australia captain Greg Chappell has called for a review of the laws of cricket, saying if the ball beats the bat and hits the stumps during a free-hit it should be declared dead to credit the bowlers as the game is already tilted in the favour of batters. An over-the-waist no ball and three byes off the subsequent free hit in the final over had helped India claim a memorable victory against Pakistan in the ongoing T20 World Cup last week.

However, there has been a lot of discussion around why the free-hit ball was not called dead immediately after it hit the stumps.

Former cricketers have objected that a batter bowled off a free-hit would result in a dead ball that prevents further scoring from the same delivery.

"I would review that rule to give the bowler credit for the dead ball if he is good enough to beat the bat and hit the stumps," Chappell wrote in his column for 'The Sydney Morning Herald'.

With India needing 13 off three balls, Virat Kohli hit a six off a waist-high full toss which was adjudged a no ball.

"There is no doubt that the umpires got their calls right in the glare of the spotlight, but one must ask: is a ball that is hit for six really a no-ball? "The height of a delivery is monitored closely, especially in late overs, because it was often been used as a run saving delivery. But it can't be argued on this occasion that that was the outcome." The next ball was a wide. Kohli was then bowled off the free-hit but as the ball ricocheted off the stumps towards the third-man fielder Kohli and Dinesh Karthik collected three bye runs.

"As for the three byes off the stumps, one must ask: is that really what the tour conditions are trying to achieve? In a game where the balance is already well in favour of the batsman, what more is a bowler meant to do? "If a bowler is good enough to bowl the perfect yorker, as Nawaz did, why does he need to be punished any further? (It is much like NZ being punished for accidental overthrows from the opponents bat which cost them the 50-over World Cup Final at The Oval in 2019.)," he wrote.

The MCC's Laws of Cricket states that "The ball becomes dead when..

"20.1.1.1 it is finally settled in the hands of the wicket-keeper or of the bowler.

"20.1.1.2 a boundary is scored.

"20.1.1.3 a batter is dismissed. The ball will be deemed to be dead from the instant of the incident causing the dismissal."

NDTV

Beating a dead horse, plenty of cases where free hit balls have gone on similarly but no one cried till Pakistan suffered on the wrong end of it.
It was a no ball, and byes were as per rules.
 
Virat Kohli was left fuming after a controversial dismissal and the star India batter made his displeasure known to the on-field umpires during the IPL 2024 match between Royal Challengers Bengaluru and Kolkata Knight Riders on Sunday. During the third over of the RCB innings, Harshit Rana delivered a slow full-toss and Kohli ended up giving a straight catch back to the bowler. However, Kohli was convinced that the ball was above his waist and he quickly went for a review. The replays showed that Kohli was standing outside the crease and the ball was dipping enough to end up below the waist if Kohli was in his normal batting stance. As a result, third umpire Michael Gough ruled against RCB in this case.

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Virat Kohli was left fuming after a controversial dismissal and the star India batter made his displeasure known to the on-field umpires during the IPL 2024 match between Royal Challengers Bengaluru and Kolkata Knight Riders on Sunday. During the third over of the RCB innings, Harshit Rana delivered a slow full-toss and Kohli ended up giving a straight catch back to the bowler. However, Kohli was convinced that the ball was above his waist and he quickly went for a review. The replays showed that Kohli was standing outside the crease and the ball was dipping enough to end up below the waist if Kohli was in his normal batting stance. As a result, third umpire Michael Gough ruled against RCB in this case.

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At the MCG KOhli feet was inside the crease. So no confusion ther. In this match he was way outside the crease. Yes straight view looked like a clear no ball as the ball was above hips. But on side angle it looked 50/50. But Kaif's point is also correct. How can the ball dramatically dip. Because it is a straight full toss. If anything that ball would travel a bit more before dipping. So it was more a noball.
 
Virat Kohli was left fuming after a controversial dismissal and the star India batter made his displeasure known to the on-field umpires during the IPL 2024 match between Royal Challengers Bengaluru and Kolkata Knight Riders on Sunday. During the third over of the RCB innings, Harshit Rana delivered a slow full-toss and Kohli ended up giving a straight catch back to the bowler. However, Kohli was convinced that the ball was above his waist and he quickly went for a review. The replays showed that Kohli was standing outside the crease and the ball was dipping enough to end up below the waist if Kohli was in his normal batting stance. As a result, third umpire Michael Gough ruled against RCB in this case.

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Faf Du Plessis said at the post-match presentation:

"It was crazy, rules are rules, Virat and myself thought that the ball was higher than the waist (on Kohli's dismissal), I guess they measured from the popping crease, one team thinks it's high, the other doesn't. That's how the game goes at times."
 
It was a no ball

A 140 kph bowler like Harshit Rana bowling such high full toss is definitely dangerous play - irrespective of where Kohli was
 
It was a no ball

A 140 kph bowler like Harshit Rana bowling such high full toss is definitely dangerous play - irrespective of where Kohli was

No, it was not a no ball.

“Irrespective of where Kohli was”, you cannot just take the batting crease out of the equation.

If he stood inside his crease, the ball would not have been above waist height, there’s really no need to complicate it.

If a Yorker was bowled and Kohli was standing more than half way down the pitch, the ball would be over waist height, are you saying that’s dangerous play as well?
 
Virat Kohli was left fuming after a controversial dismissal and the star India batter made his displeasure known to the on-field umpires during the IPL 2024 match between Royal Challengers Bengaluru and Kolkata Knight Riders on Sunday. During the third over of the RCB innings, Harshit Rana delivered a slow full-toss and Kohli ended up giving a straight catch back to the bowler. However, Kohli was convinced that the ball was above his waist and he quickly went for a review. The replays showed that Kohli was standing outside the crease and the ball was dipping enough to end up below the waist if Kohli was in his normal batting stance. As a result, third umpire Michael Gough ruled against RCB in this case.

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BCCI finds Virat Kohli guilty, slaps hefty fine for showing dissent over umpire's decision in KKR vs RCB tie​


Virat Kohli expressed his frustration after his controversial dismissal cut short his stay at the crease in Royal Challengers Bengaluru's crucial Indian Premier League 2024 match against former champions Kolkata Knight Riders on Sunday. The former India skipper reacted angrily after the RCB opener was given out to a delivery that seemed a waist-high full toss.

A day after the final-ball thriller at the Eden Garden, Kohli was fined 50% of his match fee for the code of conduct violation during the Indian Premier League match between Bengaluru and Kolkata.

 
No, it was not a no ball.

“Irrespective of where Kohli was”, you cannot just take the batting crease out of the equation.

If he stood inside his crease, the ball would not have been above waist height, there’s really no need to complicate it.

If a Yorker was bowled and Kohli was standing more than half way down the pitch, the ball would be over waist height, are you saying that’s dangerous play as well?
Kohli was not standing half way down the pitch

He was like 1 foot outside the crease & the ball came to him at chest height. Imagine a 140 kph bowler sending a chest high delivery at you. Its dangerous play. Any batter will be spooked
 
didn’t he come out of is crease ? I don’t think it was a no ball

That was clearly a no ball. He wasn't far from the crease but they denied that no ball because of trajectory where it was finishing. The no ball should have been called at the point of impact which was clearly waist high.
 
Kohli was not standing half way down the pitch

He was like 1 foot outside the crease & the ball came to him at chest height. Imagine a 140 kph bowler sending a chest high delivery at you. Its dangerous play. Any batter will be spooked

Chest height? The ball hit the middle of his bat, are you saying the centre of his bat was at chest level, lol?

It’s 140kph when it leaves the bowlers hand, by the time it gets to the batsman it’ll be around 120.

If the graphics above in post 419 doesn’t convince anyone that it wasn’t a no ball then nothing will.
 
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