hur rizvi
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Babar needs to dropped from all formats except ODIs
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More like a series against Bangladesh will come soon
Never knew Yousuf was such a beautiful English poet
TBF, Yousuf was twice the Test batsman Babar ever was.
Never knew Yousuf was such a beautiful English poet
TBF Azhar Ali was also better than Babar. He is similar level as Shafiq in testsTBF, Yousuf was twice the Test batsman Babar ever was.
Leagues of Test class players brother.TBF Azhar Ali was also better than Babar. He is similar level as Shafiq in tests
You can’t suddenly start making rules. Why didn’t Rizwan go through County or red ball cricket when he was going through a rough patch? Yet everyone was waiting for any opportunity to sneak him back into the sideBabar needs to go and play county cricket. He should not be in the test team.
Next one inning.If he doesn’t get a 50 in the next 3 innings I would put him in the umar akmal bracket, wouldn’t drop him though as his replacement will be equally as pathetic.
Ijaz was a gutsy player. He wasn't in the league of Anwar or inzi in the 90s but his ability to score hard runs was arguably better than those legends. Aussies really respect him for his performances against them in the 90s both in Australia and in PakistanLeagues of Test class players brother.
Elite Tier
Miandad
Inzimam
Younis
Yousuf
Respectable Tier A (players who had guts and mettle)
Saeed Anwar
Misbah ul Haq
Salim Malik
Respectable Tier B (Good players who lacked mettle when the going got tough)
Azhar Ali
Asad Shafique
Ijaz Ahmed (just throwing his name in there on stats, don’t really know much about his actual ability)
Not really sure which Tier Babar will end up in. For now, I know what tier I would put him in, rather not say it.
Rizwan played county along with Pujara earlier this year.You can’t suddenly start making rules. Why didn’t Rizwan go through County or red ball cricket when he was going through a rough patch? Yet everyone was waiting for any God damn opportunity to sneak him back into the side
Elite tier batsmen were monster players of spin. They were the ultimate challenge for spinners in their eraLeagues of Test class players brother.
Elite Tier
Miandad
Inzimam
Younis
Yousuf
Respectable Tier A (players who had guts and mettle)
Saeed Anwar
Misbah ul Haq
Salim Malik
Respectable Tier B (Good players who lacked mettle when the going got tough)
Azhar Ali
Asad Shafique
Ijaz Ahmed (just throwing his name in there on stats, don’t really know much about his actual ability)
Not really sure which Tier Babar will end up in. For now, I know what tier I would put him in, rather not say it.
Okay fine. Please ask Babar to win one big match against team on big occasionYou simply can't perform every game as a player!
The curious case of Babar is, no match winning performances against the big full strength Test Teams at home or away.You can’t suddenly start making rules. Why didn’t Rizwan go through County or red ball cricket when he was going through a rough patch? Yet everyone was waiting for any opportunity to sneak him back into the side
Yousuf was twice the batsman Babar ever will be across the formats, PERIOD.TBF, Yousuf was twice the Test batsman Babar ever was.
I think a certain flaw in his technique has been exposed by the Aussie bowlers in this series. He will go back and work on it I’m sure and come out a better batsman.He just had to contribute a bit here and Pakistan could have won first time in Aus in decades. I have not seen him standing up anytime in big stage.
Now series is done and dusted. We may see some runs in the last match.
Not just about this series, I am disappointed with his contributions whenever Pakistan plays away from home. Pretty much every away tour, some one else from Pakistan is the main contributor.I think a certain flaw in his technique has been exposed by the Aussie bowlers in this series. He will go back and work on it I’m sure and come out a better batsman.
Series is done and dusted so for me SCG means a lot less.The biggest disappointment for Pakistan has to be this guy absolutely clueless as senior pro, he only has now one shot at redemption the SCG
You guys are over analyzing too much. The dude simply can't handle quality pace, it's as simple as that. Don't burden him with over expectation. He isn't worth it.Is inswinging cross seam delivery the greatness weakness of Babar Azam?
In just space of four months, it's 5th time that babar has fallen prey to inswinging cross seam delivery.
1. In Asia Cup 2023, Babar got bowled by Taskin Ahmed by inswining cross seam delivery
2. Again in Asia Cup 2023 by the hands of Hardik Pandya, Babar gets his stumps rattled.
3. Against India again but in CWC 2023 at the hands of Mohammed Siraj's jaffa
4. In the boxing day test against Australia from the bowling of Pat Cummins, Babar suffers from same fate from same delivery.
5. In the boxing day test against Australia. Josh Hazlewood bamboozles Babar Azam again with the same inswinging delivery.
How about quality spin? He looks really poor against good spin.You guys are over analyzing too much. The dude simply can't handle quality pace, it's as simple as that. Don't burden him with over expectation. He isn't worth it.
Inswing cross seam delivery against bowlers that are 6ft 2”+Is inswinging cross seam delivery the greatness weakness of Babar Azam?
In just space of four months, it's 5th time that babar has fallen prey to inswinging cross seam delivery.
1. In Asia Cup 2023, Babar got bowled by Taskin Ahmed by inswining cross seam delivery
2. Again in Asia Cup 2023 by the hands of Hardik Pandya, Babar gets his stumps rattled.
3. Against India again but in CWC 2023 at the hands of Mohammed Siraj's jaffa
4. In the boxing day test against Australia from the bowling of Pat Cummins, Babar suffers from same fate from same delivery.
5. In the boxing day test against Australia. Josh Hazlewood bamboozles Babar Azam again with the same inswinging delivery.
Even on those highways he batted like a jobber against Wood last year. That was embarrassing to watch. He is almost equally pathetic against quality pace & spin. But the difference is due to his lack of power & extremely limited range of strokes he simply comes off as a one eyed dear against fast bowling whereas against spin he may occasionally try to attack or dominate.How about quality spin? He looks really poor against good spin.
Now, you are not going to get Pakistani highways to bat all the time. Those are the only ones with nothing for spin or pace.
I thought it was sliding down the leg and the impact shown on DRS perhaps was a bit iffy..The actual LBW replay
Batsman of his calibre should never be late to this kind of delivery.I thought it was sliding down the leg and the impact shown on DRS perhaps was a bit iffy..
Indeed but that’s a topic for another day. I think DRS got it wrong today as the ball had hit Babar on the leg stump when u watch it real time and it was sliding down but the DRS showed the impact on middle stump, something really wrong there !!!Batsman of his calibre should never be late to this kind of delivery.
He is living in the PR era. After watching how Kohli , MSD built a multimillion brand value which indirectly helped BCCI they are trying to build a similar brand for him. So many bots are still sharing random stats, videos of Babar to keep the hype going. Even if he scores 10 ducks in a row the hype won't stop. The thing is Babar have no personality either on the field or off the field. The hype is here to stay until he hits rock bottom and gets dropped.Yousuf was twice the batsman Babar ever will be across the formats, PERIOD.
It's an utter disgrace & disrespect to true legends like Yousuf, Younus, Anwar, Inzamam, Abbas & Miandad that a overhyped artificialhas been shoved to their level forcefully by some useless stooges like Ramiz. Without ever achieving anything truly substantial against top gun bowlers this unfit arrogant not so intelligent guy has been given nonsensical nonstop undeserving golden boy treatment for so many years.
Nah, he averages 70 plus in Pakistan. Yah, most of those runs are not useful due to super flat wickets and getting out batted by others, but you are not going to get dropped with those stats.He is living in the PR era. After watching how Kohli , MSD built a multimillion brand value which indirectly helped BCCI they are trying to build a similar brand for him. So many bots are still sharing random stats, videos of Babar to keep the hype going. Even if he scores 10 ducks in a row the hype won't stop. The thing is Babar have no personality either on the field or off the field. The hype is here to stay until he hits rock bottom and gets dropped.
Maybe but I think mentally that's his ceiling. He has never been up there showing fight in the most difficult or situations. 2023 was his best chance to do so at a world stage. We failed many times.Babar looks mentally shot and needs some time away from cricket, the last 12-15 months have been tough for him from a captaincy and batting perspective, remember we are all human and regardless of skill, if your head is not in the right place, performances will suffer as is the case with Babar.
Babar looks mentally shot and needs some time away from cricket, the last 12-15 months have been tough for him from a captaincy and batting perspective, remember we are all human and regardless of skill, if your head is not in the right place, performances will suffer as is the case with Babar.
You think right but we have been accustomed to this nonsense for the past 6-7 years.If PCB wants good of pakistan cricket, they will not lay out flat tracks for Babar to fill his boots.
Give green tracks let the likes of Aamer or Shaheen perform or even sporting tracks.
It will be a travesty if the performance of the entire bowling unit of pakistan is sacrificed fir one man.
These days every cricket board tailor the pitches based on the strength of their team. You find seaming, bouncy & fast tracks in SENA and rank turners with low bounce in India, SL Bang. PCB is actually worst in utilizing home advantage as they actually provide ROADS which are neither good for home team nor visiting team. But since Eng & Aus believe in producing results they defeated Pak in Pak by playing aggressively and with bold decisions. Pakistan can only win in Pakistan if they produce spin friendly tracks, may be I am wrong but I don't think it's possible to produce tracks suitable for fast bowling in Asia. Babar has to improve his game by playing wherever he gets opportunities and at the same time he should ask his PR agencies to stop publicity campaigns on social mediaIf PCB wants good of pakistan cricket, they will not lay out flat tracks for Babar to fill his boots.
Give green tracks let the likes of Aamer or Shaheen perform or even sporting tracks.
It will be a travesty if the performance of the entire bowling unit of pakistan is sacrificed fir one man.
Pakistan's strength is bowling and it should reflect on the pitches.These days every cricket board tailor the pitches based on the strength of their team. You find seaming, bouncy & fast tracks in SENA and rank turners with low bounce in India, SL Bang. PCB is actually worst in utilizing home advantage as they actually provide ROADS which are neither good for home team nor visiting team. But since Eng & Aus believe in producing results they defeated Pak in Pak by playing aggressively and with bold decisions. Pakistan can only win in Pakistan if they produce spin friendly tracks, may be I am wrong but I don't think it's possible to produce tracks suitable for fast bowling in Asia. Babar has to improve his game by playing wherever he gets opportunities and at the same time he should ask his PR agencies to stop publicity campaigns on social media
I don't think its true.These days every cricket board tailor the pitches based on the strength of their team. You find seaming, bouncy & fast tracks in SENA and rank turners with low bounce in India, SL Bang. PCB is actually worst in utilizing home advantage as they actually provide ROADS which are neither good for home team nor visiting team. But since Eng & Aus believe in producing results they defeated Pak in Pak by playing aggressively and with bold decisions. Pakistan can only win in Pakistan if they produce spin friendly tracks, may be I am wrong but I don't think it's possible to produce tracks suitable for fast bowling in Asia. Babar has to improve his game by playing wherever he gets opportunities and at the same time he should ask his PR agencies to stop publicity campaigns on social media
Babar already asked for rest before this series but it was declined.Babar looks mentally shot and needs some time away from cricket, the last 12-15 months have been tough for him from a captaincy and batting perspective, remember we are all human and regardless of skill, if your head is not in the right place, performances will suffer as is the case with Babar.
Indian pacers have no doubt improved a lot in all conditions in last 5-6 years. They are far more accurate with good variations plus their fitness looks much better. Pakistan has created good wickets in home series against South Africa in 2021 when they won both test matches at Karachi & Pindi and in that pacers & spinners all bowled really well. I don't know why PCB has created flat roads in home series against Aus, Eng & NZ which neither helped pacers nor spinners. The point is they need to make balance wickets to ensure fair contest between bat & ballI don't think its true.
Last 5 years in India some Indian pacers have done well,
Shami - avg 19
Umesh - Avg 20
Sharma - Avg 23
Bumrah - Avg 15
SL has also produced some good pitches recently where pacers have done well. It may not be green Mamba like SA, but you just need to avoid putting super flat pitches where neither spin nor pace can do anything. Pakistan should back the bowlers to do well in home conditions and no need to put roads for visiting teams. I mean, what purpose it serves, yes Babar can average 70 plus on those roads, but it resulted in no test win at home against Eng, NZ and Aus.
Indian pacers have no doubt improved a lot in all conditions in last 5-6 years. They are far more accurate with good variations plus their fitness looks much better. Pakistan has created good wickets in home series against South Africa in 2021 when they won both test matches at Karachi & Pindi and in that pacers & spinners all bowled really well. I don't know why PCB has created flat roads in home series against Aus, Eng & NZ which neither helped pacers nor spinners. The point is they need to make balance wickets to ensure fair contest between bat & ball
The guy has neither any personality nor charisma & absolutely terrible at articulating. But as @Buffet has clearly explained he is undroppable due to those inflated numbers courtesy of years long hapless minnow bashing. At this stage he is become nothing but a gimmick that his PR & stooges like Rambo parade around everywhere.He is living in the PR era. After watching how Kohli , MSD built a multimillion brand value which indirectly helped BCCI they are trying to build a similar brand for him. So many bots are still sharing random stats, videos of Babar to keep the hype going. Even if he scores 10 ducks in a row the hype won't stop. The thing is Babar have no personality either on the field or off the field. The hype is here to stay until he hits rock bottom and gets dropped.
Ya, I forgot about it when posting. So even Pakistan has produced good wickets in the last 5 years. Not sure producing super dead wicket is a good idea for team like Pakistan. Good batting units will simply out-bat Pakistan. Pakistan should bank it's bowlers and create result oriented pitches even when playing against top teams.Indian pacers have no doubt improved a lot in all conditions in last 5-6 years. They are far more accurate with good variations plus their fitness looks much better. Pakistan has created good wickets in home series against South Africa in 2021 when they won both test matches at Karachi & Pindi and in that pacers & spinners all bowled really well. I don't know why PCB has created flat roads in home series against Aus, Eng & NZ which neither helped pacers nor spinners. The point is they need to make balance wickets to ensure fair contest between bat & ball
Fear not, the next series is up against BD. I am confident he will plie enough runs to get back his average towards 50.The poor form that Babar Azam has been going through has affected his Test average, although it's still not a bad average overall.
This is not the only issue with Babar. He needs to score runs everywhere, not just the Asian conditions. He cannot be regarded as the great one if he underperforms everywhere else expect in Pakistan. Averages might not matter more than scoring runs in each country.Fear not, the next series is up against BD. I am confident he will plie enough runs to get back his average towards 50.kar lega, have faith on him to punish the hapless minnows.
This lady commentator urooj was constantly hyping him in the ENgland series. Kept saying "Fab 5". Something that exists only in the echo chamber of Babar fans. She was saying this when Harry Brook was absolutely destroying the bowling on the same pitch.The guy has neither any personality nor charisma & absolutely terrible at articulating. But as @Buffet has clearly explained he is undroppable due to those inflated numbers courtesy of years long hapless minnow bashing. At this stage he is become nothing but a gimmick that his PR & stooges like Rambo parade around everywhere.
The poor form that Babar Azam has been going through has affected his Test average, although it's still not a bad average overall.