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[PICTURES] Does Pakistan still need Mohammad Amir?

Does Pakistan need Mohammad Amir back?

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shamaan said:
I agree he has no brains but why not give Zaman Khan a chance he has variations pluss he can bowl at the death (Like Amir)
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To be honest I wouldnt mind Zaman khan. I rate him higher than Naseem & Rauf.
 
I'm surprised Sethi hasn't had a meeting with Amir to discuss his future.

That should be the way to end the speculation one way or another.
 
Happy Birthday to Amir

Born: April 13, 1992 (age 31 years), Changa Bangial, Pakistan

Not sure if this is the right age but let's take on face value.

In theory, a few more years of cricket left for him but do not see an international return on the horizon.
 
he is 33-35 year old.

Saw an interview where he accidentally ended up telling that he was in grade 8 in 2003. Thus, a grade 8 student is of 13 - 14 years of age. By those calculations, in 2010 he was 20-21 years old atleast. Not 17 or 18.

He should be in the age bracket of 33 to 35 and this the least, who knows he might be older. Cause he was playing tape ball cricket in 2003 and tape ball circuits dont have small kids, but teenagers and adults
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OnThisDay?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#OnThisDay</a> in 1992. Mohammad Amir was born in Gujjar Khan:<br><br>Champions Trophy winner ✅<br>World T20 winner ✅<br>Pakistan Super League winner ✅<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/pCH6n8f1Gg">pic.twitter.com/pCH6n8f1Gg</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1646422775110811648?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 13, 2023</a></blockquote>
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MenInG said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OnThisDay?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#OnThisDay</a> in 1992. Mohammad Amir was born in Gujjar Khan:<br><br>Champions Trophy winner ✅<br>World T20 winner ✅<br>Pakistan Super League winner ✅<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/pCH6n8f1Gg">pic.twitter.com/pCH6n8f1Gg</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1646422775110811648?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 13, 2023</a></blockquote>
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All he needs now is a World Cup and IPL winners medal

What an achievement that would be for him.
 
Rana said:
All he needs now is a World Cup and IPL winners medal

What an achievement that would be for him.
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He has been our champion bowler at a grand stage. The question is about his gas left in the tank. If he by miracle gets himself fit, he can’t be any worse than Harris, Naseem, or Waseem.
 
CricVet said:
He has been our champion bowler at a grand stage. The question is about his gas left in the tank. If he by miracle gets himself fit, he can’t be any worse than Harris, Naseem, or Waseem.
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Have you seen Wasim stats in t20s and odis ?
 
Saj said:
I'm surprised Sethi hasn't had a meeting with Amir to discuss his future.

That should be the way to end the speculation one way or another.
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Why should Sethi be having meetings with players who are the wrong side of 30 and barely active?

I'd understand if Amir was consistently pulling up trees in List A or FC cricket.

Not someone who strolls around the world playing meaningless pyjama leagues and not giving a moment's notice to anything involving the national set up.
 
If he’s available for selection, should be considered for the World Cup.

Love him or hate him, he had the X factor , especially against Bharat.
 
Nah, not interested at all. His time has come and went. His ego is too big considering his performances.

He does have an X factor in the tournaments he played in but it’s not worth it.
 
He is good enough to be in squad but definitely not better than 1st choice pacers. Even Ihsanullah(if he were fit) and Zaman are better options especially considering their ages.

That said, Amir is a perfect backup for Shaheen for WC.
 
With too many injuries in fast bowling department for Pakistan at the moment. He seems to be a good option but I think his time as a Pakistan international cricket player is over.
 
No no no no no no

Don’t know what’s worse that he’s a cheat or his huge ego.
 
After seeing the match last night against Sri Lanka, he would be a good addition in the Pakistan team but I think his time with Pakistan national team is over.
 
100% you need him back

Put aside your ego. Think about the country first
 
Pakistan has a great record of carrying washed up players to the cricket World Cup, so why shouldn’t it continue this rich tradition?

Objectively, Amir adds nothing to Pakistan cricket expect drama. PCT is better off with Ihsanullah & other young players who put their country before their ambitions and greed.
 
chinaman00 said:
Pakistan has a great record of carrying washed up players to the cricket World Cup, so why shouldn’t it continue this rich tradition?

Objectively, Amir adds nothing to Pakistan cricket expect drama. PCT is better off with Ihsanullah & other young players who put their country before their ambitions and greed.
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Amir is a good bowler. Still is.

It’s a 2 new ball game. He can also do what Shaheen does if Naseem isn’t available
 
I don't see why amir can't be included. People who critise his attitude should get a good look at shadab Khan before critising.

I don't like amir, but I'd rather choose a good genuine bowler and match winner then faheem ashraf or even shadab.

This man has won a tournament for his country.
 
Mohammad Amir injured himself while taking a catch during the match between Bangla Tigers and New York Strikers in the Abu Dhabi T10 League 2023. If there is a fracture, he might be ruled out from the tournament now.

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FearlessRoar said:
Mohammad Amir injured himself while taking a catch during the match between Bangla Tigers and New York Strikers in the Abu Dhabi T10 League 2023. If there is a fracture, he might be ruled out from the tournament now.

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He's a walking stick these days. Hasn't played one tournament in the last year where he hasn't gotten injured.
 
Amir's destructive spell for New York Strikers against Chennai Braves in the Abu Dhabi T10 League 2023

2 Overs
4 Wickets
7 Runs
3.50 Econ
1 Maiden over
 
Guy bowls 4-7 in a t10 game, yet there are people on Twitter claiming Amir will go unpicked in the PSL draft lol. Why? Because he doesn’t rate Babar as a T20 batsman?
 
What a selfish guy. Still got it and is still probably the best bower in paksitan and extremely lethal in his spells. Can easily serve pakistan for another 3-4 years but is choosing to play these silly leagues just to earn a few coin. A sell out.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
A remarkable performance by amir today. Well, this would help him in Psl auction later.
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As if he needs help

He’s the best white ball pacer in Pakistan. Peshawar Zalmi desperate for good pacers, they would be stupid to pass on him if they had the chance to select him
 
The Bald Eagle said:
A remarkable performance by amir today. Well, this would help him in Psl auction later.
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Point to think is whether he delivers with the same intensity in the PSL or not.

In my opinion, he takes all sorts of Pakistani cricket for granted.
 
Amir's performance is not bad but his career with Pakistani team is all over as he no longer wants to play fro Pakistan. Best of luck to him.
 
with such pathetic bowing performances in Australia, i would love to see Amir wearing pakistan jersey again.
 
Mohammad Amir, when asked about his comeback to the Pakistan Team, while talking to the media:

"Honestly, straightforward for me this debate is closed. No chance for now. Nobody is certain about life but for me this (a chance of an international comeback) is no more a question. I am out of the international circuit for the past three years and I don't think I will be making a comeback," said Amir while replying to a query from NDTV during a media interaction."​
 
Amir is an ungrateful person to PCB, given the support he received after his return to international cricket. That care made him arrogant, and, of course, the greed for money how can we forget it.
 
topspin said:
It's either about him taking his retirement back or him be a bowling mentor for the side.
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We are yet to see him in a position other than as a player but his game thinking and sense as a bowler specially in T20 format is too good.

The young Pakistani pace lot lacked his presence in the dressing room. Shaheen probably would've learned a lot more as a bowler.
 
RidiculousMan said:
We are yet to see him in a position other than as a player but his game thinking and sense as a bowler specially in T20 format is too good.

The young Pakistani pace lot lacked his presence in the dressing room. Shaheen probably would've learned a lot more as a bowler.
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I would love to see him be a bowling coach one day for Pakistan's white ball sides. He would be a major asset. Like you said he's got a great bowling IQ and he knows how to hold his nerve in those big games.
 
Why do we have to turn back to our past every time?
Amir is retired, he might be better than some bowlers but he is not interested in representing Pakistan after being reached out repeatedly by the selector.His chapter should be closed now.
 
They need to do their best to get Usman Khan and Amir now and make imad captain, and give inad till 2027 to fix our team.
 
Fakhta teasing at another big bombshell

“King coming soon”
 
PCB Chairman Mohsin Naqvi during Press conference, On question regarding Mohammad Amir said:

"They will make this decision (pointing towards Wahab Riaz and Mohammad Yousuf), but I think give them some time, they will make this decision."
 
FearlessRoar said:
PCB Chairman Mohsin Naqvi during Press conference, On question regarding Mohammad Amir said:

"They will make this decision (pointing towards Wahab Riaz and Mohammad Yousuf), but I think give them some time, they will make this decision."
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No outright dismissal

Something is cooking. It’s happening InshaAllah
 
Might still be good enough for t20s. But he’s past his best. Shaheen, Naseem, Haris Rauf have all outperformed Amir in their recent years of playing too compared to Amir’s performance in the last few years of his career. Not saying they are necessarily better, but it’s a sign maybe focus on guys younger with more of their career left, then one more good year of Amir before he retires.

We made a mistake forcing Amir to play tests. You could see he was struggling to handle it. Maybe it’s the fact it’s not easy to have such a long break out and come back. It’s just we had no sympathy because he was a fixer. Should have just played ODIs and T20s, and he’d probably have bowled at full speed as a result and had a better record. I also think his LOI record is underrated, many teams played him out and then attacked his less economical fast bowlers playing alongside him in the Pakistan team. Which is why his wicket tally suffered.

Management is just too emotional when handling players. Feel like somehow these players owe fans/management. Better to just focus on getting the best out the formats they are suited for. If they don’t want to play those formats, great, give it to a guy who badly wants it. Much better than forcing unwilling players to play or worse risk injuries. I have supported not playing fixers in order to discourage fixing. But going along with the idea that fixers have to produce better performance than normal or play all formats so that we can forgive them is silly. Once they are selected, they should be treated like anyone else. Or just don’t select them in the first place.
 
ads101 said:
But he’s past his best. Shaheen, Naseem, Haris Rauf have all outperformed Amir in their recent years
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Outperformed against who?

-Naseem has hardly played proper white ball international cricket. He was deleted by Indian batsmen in the Asia cup prior to the World Cup
-Rauf is there for all to see, he’s a batsman’s dream bowler to face
-Shaheen has become predictable and is not the Shaheen of 2 years ago

Amit is still the most intelligent white ball pacer in Pakistan. He was honing his skill as a T20 bowler that can be invested in playing league cricket around the world against overseas players that are hired to go hard from ball 1.

You can try to be disingenuous towards him but that would be a false statement
 
BouncerGuy said:
Why do we have to turn back to our past every time?
Amir is retired, he might be better than some bowlers but he is not interested in representing Pakistan after being reached out repeatedly by the selector.His chapter should be closed now.
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lets look at the future, your highest wicket taker in PSL 9 is Usama Mir followed by Mohammed ali , imad wasim, and hasan ali
is this the future we are looking forward to? i would rather have amir and hope to win games than having hasan ali and usama mir leading the attack
 
ads101 said:
Might still be good enough for t20s. But he’s past his best. Shaheen, Naseem, Haris Rauf have all outperformed Amir in their recent years of playing too compared to Amir’s performance in the last few years of his career. Not saying they are necessarily better, but it’s a sign maybe focus on guys younger with more of their career left, then one more good year of Amir before he retires.

We made a mistake forcing Amir to play tests. You could see he was struggling to handle it. Maybe it’s the fact it’s not easy to have such a long break out and come back. It’s just we had no sympathy because he was a fixer. Should have just played ODIs and T20s, and he’d probably have bowled at full speed as a result and had a better record. I also think his LOI record is underrated, many teams played him out and then attacked his less economical fast bowlers playing alongside him in the Pakistan team. Which is why his wicket tally suffered.

Management is just too emotional when handling players. Feel like somehow these players owe fans/management. Better to just focus on getting the best out the formats they are suited for. If they don’t want to play those formats, great, give it to a guy who badly wants it. Much better than forcing unwilling players to play or worse risk injuries. I have supported not playing fixers in order to discourage fixing. But going along with the idea that fixers have to produce better performance than normal or play all formats so that we can forgive them is silly. Once they are selected, they should be treated like anyone else. Or just don’t select them in the first place.
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amirs career average is above shaheen naseem and rauf the only pacer ahead of amir in t20's is umar gul and amir has played big teams rather than minnows and d teams

amir should have never need forced to play tests he doesn't have it in him, we are still making the same mistake by asking 4 over psl players to play test cricket, if you want a test bowler you need to look in the first class circuit not psl
 
We may have not needed Amir if our team post the 2019 world cup was able to develop naturally under a proper captain. Unfortunately that did not happen and instead we decided to invest in tape ball level players like Rauf, Nawaz, Faheem and Zaman who showed zero dividends for the amount we put into them

Now we are at the point were an Amir who is way past his prime is still the best white ball bowler we can ask for. With his skill, experience and guile maybe just maybe we can properly develop a young quartet of fast bowlers that can take us forward
 
Rana said:
Outperformed against who?

-Naseem has hardly played proper white ball international cricket. He was deleted by Indian batsmen in the Asia cup prior to the World Cup
-Rauf is there for all to see, he’s a batsman’s dream bowler to face
-Shaheen has become predictable and is not the Shaheen of 2 years ago

Amit is still the most intelligent white ball pacer in Pakistan. He was honing his skill as a T20 bowler that can be invested in playing league cricket around the world against overseas players that are hired to go hard from ball 1.

You can try to be disingenuous towards him but that would be a false statement
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Somewhat disagree, naseem in that game was burnt out thanks to our loser captain at the time.

On top of that he still got Gill out 2x if it wasn't for our joke fielding.

Edit: Not saying he's better then Amir, just saying he's probs pur only actually white ball bowler besides Amir.
 
mominsaigol said:
Somewhat disagree, naseem in that game was burnt out thanks to our loser captain at the time.

On top of that he still got Gill out 2x if it wasn't for our joke fielding.

Edit: Not saying he's better then Amir, just saying he's probs pur only actually white ball bowler besides Amir.
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Amir is much clever bowler than all current pakistani bowlers.
 
Amir has come out of retirement and is available for selection for the T20 WC. Just saw on cricinfo and ICCs official website.

This is huge. Shaheen, Amir, Naseem could be Pakistan's pace bowling attack at the T20 WC.
 
Rana said:
Outperformed against who?

-Naseem has hardly played proper white ball international cricket. He was deleted by Indian batsmen in the Asia cup prior to the World Cup
-Rauf is there for all to see, he’s a batsman’s dream bowler to face
-Shaheen has become predictable and is not the Shaheen of 2 years ago

Amit is still the most intelligent white ball pacer in Pakistan. He was honing his skill as a T20 bowler that can be invested in playing league cricket around the world against overseas players that are hired to go hard from ball 1.

You can try to be disingenuous towards him but that would be a false statement
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In 2018 he averaged over 100 in ODIs with the ball. He did better in 2019 with 25. But remember people getting annoyed with his performances in 2018. Personally I don’t really think it was his fault too much, I think it was a bit of bad luck and team mates who relieved a lot of pressure. In t20s 2019 he averaged 26. Which isn’t terrible but it’s still worse than his norm.

I think that year in ODIs alone damage Amir’s reputation a bit. People thought it was ridiculous. I think if that year never happened, I’m not sure Amir would have been removed from all formats.

In general his performances to many felt a bit under par in his last few years in the team. Shaheen and Rauf have done better than that statistically and have been much better at picking up wickets. Naseem is a weird one, it’s mainly because he’s just done so well in Odis he averages 17 there.

I was against dropping him. But I remember there being complaints about him around that time by fans. Some weren’t exactly that disappointed to get rid of him when he refused to play tests.

That’s why I don’t know if it’s a great idea to recall him. He’s on his last legs now. And Shaheen, Rauf and Naseem haven’t exactly been a terrible attack. In a year or two when Amir has to retire, we are probably going back to that anyway. At least Shaheen and Naseem anyway.
 
ads101 said:
In 2018 he averaged over 100 in ODIs with the ball. He did better in 2019 with 25. But remember people getting annoyed with his performances in 2018. Personally I don’t really think it was his fault too much, I think it was a bit of bad luck and team mates who relieved a lot of pressure. In t20s 2019 he averaged 26. Which isn’t terrible but it’s still worse than his norm.

I think that year in ODIs alone damage Amir’s reputation a bit. People thought it was ridiculous. I think if that year never happened, I’m not sure Amir would have been removed from all formats.

In general his performances to many felt a bit under par in his last few years in the team. Shaheen and Rauf have done better than that statistically and have been much better at picking up wickets. Naseem is a weird one, it’s mainly because he’s just done so well in Odis he averages 17 there.

I was against dropping him. But I remember there being complaints about him around that time by fans. Some weren’t exactly that disappointed to get rid of him when he refused to play tests.

That’s why I don’t know if it’s a great idea to recall him. He’s on his last legs now. And Shaheen, Rauf and Naseem haven’t exactly been a terrible attack. In a year or two when Amir has to retire, we are probably going back to that anyway. At least Shaheen and Naseem anyway.
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When Amir retires, you will start seeing the emergence of the u19 battery especially that 15 year old Kid who has an action similar to Courtney Walsh, and maybe Ubaid and Zeeshan developing nicely.

Amit just needs to hang on until these boys can start bowling with the big boys
 
Major said:
No sir. I have never sold the countrys honor for a few poinds

People dont want him in the team cause he sold the country, simple as that.

Its the one law in cricket you can violate and he did just that.
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Well, this wasn’t true was it?
 
He's good for depth and experience.

Looking at the lineup, he would replace a struggling Rauf which is a good upgrade. You can rotate between Amir, Rauf, Wasim, Mohammad Ali based on whoever is doing well as that third seamer.

They won't have to keep forcing Rauf even when he's out of sorts.
 
He’s only 31. He has been playing league cricket. His experience will be invaluable and if another bowler is struggling, bringing him in will give the team confidence vs someone who doesn’t understand how to use the crease or utilize the slower ball.
 
Is he fit enough to play an ICC tournament which is a month long?

If he seriously wants to play for Pakistan in the upcoming T20 World Cup, then he must take his fitness seriously and hit the gym for the next two months, otherwise he will break down after few games. Mark my words
 
Caved12 said:
Is he fit enough to play an ICC tournament which is a month long?

If he seriously wants to play for Pakistan in the upcoming T20 World Cup, then he must take his fitness seriously and hit the gym for the next two months, otherwise he will break down after few games. Mark my words
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Nah.

It’s just 4 overs per game.

League players are built for this.

They absolutely embarrass themselves in ODIs and Tests though like Haris Rauf, Shadab, Nawaz and lately Amir (who was great in Tests too but after the comeback no longer fit).

At least Amir is still OK for 3-4 overs.
 
Hawkeye said:
Nah.

It’s just 4 overs per game.

League players are built for this.

They absolutely embarrass themselves in ODIs and Tests though like Haris Rauf, Shadab, Nawaz and lately Amir (who was great in Tests too but after the comeback no longer fit).

At least Amir is still OK for 3-4 overs.
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No, it is not just 4 overs per game. League cricket is a joke where these players show up just before the start of the tournaments and sometimes in the middle of it. Most of these guys hardly attend any practice sessions before the start of any league games.

Amir now has to take his fitness seriously. He will be required to attend all practice sessions and the training camp for the next two months.

Hopefully they will take care of him and make him go through a proper program where they also focus on his recovery after every session.
 
offstump said:
He’s only 31. He has been playing league cricket. His experience will be invaluable and if another bowler is struggling, bringing him in will give the team confidence vs someone who doesn’t understand how to use the crease or utilize the slower ball.
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Yeah nah.

In fact whoever fudged his age did it perfectly. Another few months here or there and he would have been languishing in a prison cell in the UK like his mates Asif and Butt.
 
Varun said:
Yeah nah.

In fact whoever fudged his age did it perfectly. Another few months here or there and he would have been languishing in a prison cell in the UK like his mates Asif and Butt.
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Unless you have proof he age fudged then it’s just hearsay. Whatever his punishment was at the time, he paid the price. Whether someone thinks it was fair or unfair is irrelevant, he is available now and it’s up the board to decide if he makes the team.
 
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