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Rizwan yes, Babar no. A player should atleast be somewhat interested in captaincy with proven track record in domestics.What kind of personality should you have for captaincy? Babar’s? Rizwan’s?
Once can hope after the CT we start investing in newer players enough of these senior players and what I mean by newer players I don't mean 30 olds.Yeah this CT is over for Pakistan. Team is just loaded now with a bunch of stat-padders and losers.
From 20 runs in 10 overs, we will now make 30-40 runs max with Imam in the side![]()
And Butler has lost 7 out of last 10 ODIs as captain. English team is a mess despite incredible talent.
Fakhar Zaman has never captained at domestic level either so there is no bases to an argument for his captaincy. Rizwan didn't came out of nowhere as captain. KP team won multiple domestic tournaments under his captaincy not to mention success in PSL.
I doubt senior players thing mentioned by Gillespie included Rizwan. Rizwan is probably the fittest in team. As for team selection, clearly this playing XI is not selected by Rizwan. See this link;
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I am not sure about external agencies point. You think Babar and Rizwan are raw agents ? Why need external agencies when you have a political appointee (who is also an alleged murderer) as PCB chief ?
In regards to Aus and SA tour, I meant Rizwan's captaincy. His field placements and bowling changes were spot on. We defeated a strong Aus side and decent SA team at their home. That cannot be ignored. In tri series and CT, management had this bright idea of taking away powers from captain (see given link) and results are in front of us.
I agree that Rizwan and Babar have no business in T20Is but calling for their exclusion from ODIs is nonsensical at this point. Maybe Babar if his bad form continues but given our talent pool and quality of domestics, he will be back in no time.
yeah healthy enough to bite their own sideDon’t get your hopes up, Babar & Rizwan are healthy.
That’s a Glenn Phillips flat bat slap down the wicket to this lot!did management take away the power to use his brain cells
Kamran Ghulam is the only remaining X factor player in the whole squad.Fakhar is an X factor player so can be hit or miss but Imam in Dubai and vs Bangladesh means guaranteed runs on the board which will give Pakistan an edge now because there will be runs on the board to put opposition under pressure.
This might be the boost Pakistan team needs.
That’s a Glenn Phillips flat bat slap down the wicket to this lot!
Zindabad Shaz, Tunn ke rakh Inna nu!did management take away the power to use his brain cells ? Or are we overlooking that because he doesn’t have any like his most loyal fans.
what did gary kirstein complained about?Maybe, but given their robust appointment and structure, they will find a way to move forward through their investment in the future. Even if I ignore the politicking from Rizwan, he got no business being a captaincy candidate on the basis he doesn’t make the team, Fakhar is the first name on the team sheet in any limited overs Pakistani side.
Gary Kisten complained about Rizwan’s behaviour in the past so don’t worry about Gillespie who is more of a diplomat. And it is clear Rizwan played a pivotal role in removing both these guys before being made captain. And why should we overlook the influence of Saya group, they may as well be RAW agents after the way Rizwan got out to Bumrah in the US.
You want to talk about Rizwan’s captaincy, where were these innovative field placings in the tri-series and match yesterday, the charlatan has been exposed, did management take away the power to use his brain cells ? Or are we overlooking that because he doesn’t have any like his most loyal fans.
First give their replacements as many chances as you’ve given the serial failures then we shall see and also defend them with the same energy if they keep choking like Babar/Rizwan have, I can’t fathom the fans who defend their cowardly cricket even when a defeat is so fresh.
what did gary kirstein complained about?
Not entirely overWe are already out. Better give opportunities to parchis and use these matches as farewell matches.
Ab Pakistan team ko koi nahi rok sakta yeh trophy jeetnay sayImam-ul-Haq joined the Pakistan squad for training in Dubai.
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Charbi and body fatImam-ul-Haq joined the Pakistan squad for training in Dubai.
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Rizwan doesn't make the team ? He is averaging about 50 as captain. On merit, he is more deserving of a spot in team than Misbah and specialist captain Sarfaraz ever were.Maybe, but given their robust appointment and structure, they will find a way to move forward through their investment in the future. Even if I ignore the politicking from Rizwan, he got no business being a captaincy candidate on the basis he doesn’t make the team, Fakhar is the first name on the team sheet in any limited overs Pakistani side.
What did Gary say in particular about Rizwan ? How is it clear that Rizwan played any role in removing coaches ? You really think that dinosaurs at PCB including dictator Naqvi is taking orders from a little Pashtun guy with a humble family background ? They are not even letting Rizwan select the playing XI.Gary Kisten complained about Rizwan’s behaviour in the past so don’t worry about Gillespie who is more of a diplomat. And it is clear Rizwan played a pivotal role in removing both these guys before being made captain.
And here I thought I was discussing with a sane poster. At least you used to be many years back.And why should we overlook the influence of Saya group, they may as well be RAW agents after the way Rizwan got out to Bumrah in the US.
Can you point out any tactical error made by Rizwan on the field that led to our loss ? A captain can only do so much when a pathetic squad is handed over to him not to mention he is not even allowed to select playing XI.You want to talk about Rizwan’s captaincy, where were these innovative field placings in the tri-series and match yesterday, the charlatan has been exposed, did management take away the power to use his brain cells ? Or are we overlooking that because he doesn’t have any like his most loyal fans.
Name me Babar and Rizwan's replacements that you so want to give chances to ? Lets hear it.First give their replacements as many chances as you’ve given the serial failures then we shall see and also defend them with the same energy if they keep choking like Babar/Rizwan have, I can’t fathom the fans who defend their cowardly cricket even when a defeat is so fresh.
I laughed so hard at this because he's rubbish in odi but it's trueKamran Ghulam is the only remaining X factor player in the whole squad.
Imam ul RickletonI laughed so hard at this because he's rubbish in odi but it's true. Goes to show how the standards have fallen lol.
I disagree, we havent given him enough chances.I laughed so hard at this because he's rubbish in odi but it's true. Goes to show how the standards have fallen lol.
Rizwan doesn't make the team ? He is averaging about 50 as captain. On merit, he is more deserving of a spot in team than Misbah and specialist captain Sarfaraz ever were.
What did Gary say in particular about Rizwan ? How is it clear that Rizwan played any role in removing coaches ? You really think that dinosaurs at PCB including dictator Naqvi is taking orders from a little Pashtun guy with a humble family background ? They are not even letting Rizwan select the playing XI.
And here I thought I was discussing with a sane poster. At least you used to be many years back.
Rizwan and Babar the raw agents. Guess they didn't get the memo in 2021.
Can you point out any tactical error made by Rizwan on the field that led to our loss ? A captain can only do so much when a pathetic squad is handed over to him not to mention he is not even allowed to select playing XI.
Name me Babar and Rizwan's replacements that you so want to give chances to ? Lets hear it.
Is Pakistan so medically backward country they cannot take care of a star cricketer's hypothyroidism , which is a minor problem and extremely easy to manage , is a very common condition.I’m so done with these embarrassing fitness levels of our players. Shame to call these guys athletes.
Faheem never got injured in his career and will never be , hopefully. When your stay at the wickets is very short and have to bowl only few overs at slow pace, you take no chances to get injured.I dont like Faheem Ashraf, but i wont go around saying and hoping he gets injured, and than try to justify it oh i was saying it as a figure of speech.
Talk to me when Imam plays an innings like Ghulam did against South africa in South africa.Imam has earned his spot which many others could not... If Saud and Kamran can play in the ODI squad, why not him???
1 hundred and 4 fifties in 8 games so far he played in South Africa...Talk to me when Imam plays an innings like Ghulam did against South africa in South africa.
Jeetna bhi hai or wo bhi big margin se .hmmNot entirely over
Bangladesh have played their worst match against India. They should improve. The Pak v Bang game should be rained off by the looks of it. 1 point each
Pakistan can still end with 3….and bang could pull off an upset v NZ…you can’t rule out cricket
Pakistan need to end Sunday with a proper nrr
What was the strike rate?1 hundred and 4 fifties in 8 games so far he played in South Africa...
Not a fair comparison because Imam plays as an opener and during his career he mostly played with Fakhar so he was never told his role was the enforcer one since Fakhar was doing that.What was the strike rate?
He is an opener... 81 strike rate... not extra-ordinary but expecting Shahid afridi type blitz who was a finisher and like Kamran Ghulam played in that inning????What was the strike rate?
The only parchi's are babar rizwan shaheen naseem and rauf who have been given every game for years despite any performance should have been sacked after WC23 and WC24 but some how still get in the team. How can you call guys parchi who hardly get a gameWe are already out. Better give opportunities to parchis and use these matches as farewell matches.
Nothing against imam he is a good test opener but he is not a limited overs player in this current pakistani team there are no x factor players all other teams have atleast 3 to 4 players who can take the game on I didn't expect this team to go far now fakhar is out tomorrow maybe the end of the road for this tournament.Imam has earned his spot which many others could not... If Saud and Kamran can play in the ODI squad, why not him???