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[PICTURES] Myth behind Mohammad Rizwan's excellent fitness

Those who actually watch the games may have seen him run to the middle and save runs...

Yes fitness.
 
MenInG said:
Looking at the shameful comments in this thread, which player would want to play for Pakistan again?
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Hardly surprising anymore. Some these same posters will moan and groan for the sake of it. It's like they know what a person feels, how he is on a day to day routine etc etc.

Shameful would mean you're surprised and something we don't see often in here. Unfortunately these posts aren't anything new.

Dare I say these same posters wouldn't know Rizwan having problems with his back for the last few months and those injuries can spread to the lower parts of the body too.
 
Rizwan showing signs of burnout

His wicket keeping was awful. He must have conceeded 12 byes which was criminal in a low scoring game.

Pakistan needs to rest him for the next 4-5 games including the practice games in Australia.
 
Savak said:
His wicket keeping was awful. He must have conceeded 12 byes which was criminal in a low scoring game.

Pakistan needs to rest him for the next 4-5 games including the practice games in Australia.
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Did you see the Naseem delivery which he didn’t even attempt to stop? Just watched it go to the boundary with his head between his legs :)))

Looked out of it.

I’ve been saying it for ages to give M Harris a proper shot and let Riz rest for a few.
 
He should definitely be rested for the next game but the practice games are in Australia and the first XI needs to play to get used to the conditions.
 
Forget it.

Not happening.

However, since we have Rizwan, Babar and Shan in top 3, I propose Iftikhar in 4th position as the 4th anchor so we don't get bowled out in less than 20 overs.

Khushdil can be the 5th anchor as well.
 
Suleiman said:
Did you see the Naseem delivery which he didn’t even attempt to stop? Just watched it go to the boundary with his head between his legs :)))

Looked out of it.

I’ve been saying it for ages to give M Harris a proper shot and let Riz rest for a few.
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I think the delivery caught him by surprise as he didn't expect Naseem to throw back to back leg side wides
 
Rest him for the last 2 games here (the team management wont do it though I know). But since he will be in the world cup starting XI he needs to play the practice games there.
 
Now it's a problem if he doesn't score runs. Lol.

Like I said, our top order gets out early- the other batters whine. Our top order scores 70% of all the runs, rest of the batters still whine. And their merchants.

However I agree that he needs to be rested for next match and even the final because he's carrying a lot of workload.
 
Savak said:
His wicket keeping was awful. He must have conceeded 12 byes which was criminal in a low scoring game.

Pakistan needs to rest him for the next 4-5 games including the practice games in Australia.
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His wicket keeping has been below par for a while now. He has regularly let go many byes over the last few games and he does look jaded. He is seen limping multiple times after he dives or over-stretches during his batting/keeping.

Management needs to, for once, develop some balls and give him much needed break for at least one week. He might be intent on preserving his number 1 ranking by playing every match but management needs to step in and see the bigger picture. Also, you need to give your spare keeper-batter time in the middle so that he is not completely under-cooked on these surfaces if being called upon in the World Cup.
 
This is a pretty garbage thread from one of the usual suspects. The guy often bats the entire 20 overs and has to keep wickets for 20 overs. Additionally, his batting includes a lot of quick runs so it's way more taxing than Abdul Razzaq or Chris Gayle's style of batting.

When you do all this in the UAE and Pakistan in August, September and October, obviously you are going to get cramps.
 
He can rest after the World Cup. The guy gets these sort of injuries every game but heals quickly like Wolverine. Need him to get used to the conditions.
 
So being hit on the glove is also a drama?
 
Riz struggling but this one seems to be twisted knee?

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MenInG said:
Riz struggling but this one seems to be twisted knee?

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He’ll be fine. Every game this guy is cramping up running between the wickets. Why doesn’t PCB do something about it and get him some treatment? Every game over the last year this has happened.
 
Rizwan is having fitness problem in almost every match in all formats while in batting as well as fielding. Not sure why this has not been addressed so far
 
I’ve always been a massive Rizwan supporter but recently I feel like he’s starting to become a drama queen.
 
When asked about Rizwan's injury, Babar Azam said:

“Rizwan is feeling better, perhaps a one-game rest for him and he will be back in the side"
 
Personally

I recon he is carrying a pull or a hairline fracture but isn’t willing to rest

Allah knows best
 
Who cares about drama. Is he fit enough to take catches. Is he fit enough to make runs at a good click.

If he is doing drama, wasting time, taking breaks it helps the team out. We might get an extra over with one fielder in.
 
I dont think it's because of his technique. This pitch just has erratic bounce. Even the best keepers would struggle here
 
I'm pretty sure he scored a 100 while fasting - running quick singles and doubles.
His fitness cannot be that bad.

Additionally he might be carrying around a lot of niggles from wicketkeeping since it looks quite intensive on the back.

So much cricket being played today in these T20 league franchises - seems like he just needs a bit of rest.
 
Bewal Express said:
Mostly due to his poor technique. He stands too far back and that means too many balls get to him on the bounce. Someone needs to tell him to stand closer by at least yard or two
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For a keeper, he seems quite frightened of a cricket ball.

This is probably why he over exaggerates every knock he gets. I’ve seen this in kids. They get hit by a ball and are in tears, on the ground….a few min later when they realise they’re fine it’s as if nothing happened.

I think Rizwan should practice a lot more and get rid of this fear factor. The best place to do this is domestic cricket. Let’s have a fearless keeper for a change.
 
TheSultan said:
For a keeper, he seems quite frightened of a cricket ball.

This is probably why he over exaggerates every knock he gets. I’ve seen this in kids. They get hit by a ball and are in tears, on the ground….a few min later when they realise they’re fine it’s as if nothing happened.

I think Rizwan should practice a lot more and get rid of this fear factor. The best place to do this is domestic cricket. Let’s have a fearless keeper for a change.
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You mean one who can catch a ball in the first place? Who do you have in mind?
 
You have a fearless ready made keeper in Haris. Bring him in.
 
Rana said:
Tbf Rizwan is a gun keeper but an overrated batsman
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Best comment!

I'm a Rizwan fan but his run in ODIs should be coming to an end. Haris is not far off Riz's quality as a keeper and has a potential to be a better batsman with some great striking ability.
 
owenhcricket said:
Best comment!

I'm a Rizwan fan but his run in ODIs should be coming to an end. Haris is not far off Riz's quality as a keeper and has a potential to be a better batsman with some great striking ability.
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Rizwan's last handful of matches, he's done pretty well. Averaging over 45.
Was a bit unsure if he fit into the ODI team, but he seems to be steadily finding his footing.
 
Ali T said:
Rizwan's last handful of matches, he's done pretty well. Averaging over 45.
Was a bit unsure if he fit into the ODI team, but he seems to be steadily finding his footing.
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Do you mean since the start of the Afghan series? His best score was a scrappy 60 odd which was good no doubt but Pakistan have plenty of scrappy batsmen these days. They need someone who is a more modern flavour and its why I think Haris would be a better shout because we're not losing too much by dropping rizwan in ODIs.
 
owenhcricket said:
Do you mean since the start of the Afghan series? His best score was a scrappy 60 odd which was good no doubt but Pakistan have plenty of scrappy batsmen these days. They need someone who is a more modern flavour and its why I think Haris would be a better shout because we're not losing too much by dropping rizwan in ODIs.
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Basically since the start of the year.
He's not setting the world on fire, but I think he warrants a few more goes before ruling him out.

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Rizwan will do well knowing he will never be dropped as long as Babar is the captain

Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen, Shadab

These 4 players know they will never ever be dropped. The selection criteria applied to these 4 doesn’t apply to the rest of Pakistan
 
Rizwan is one of the fittest pakistani players and he's a goated wicket keeper. While having some run out problems at no 4, I have no doubt in my mind that he's one of the best batsmen in modern cricket.
 
Rana said:
Rizwan will do well knowing he will never be dropped as long as Babar is the captain

Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen, Shadab

These 4 players know they will never ever be dropped. The selection criteria applied to these 4 doesn’t apply to the rest of Pakistan
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Babar deserves to be selected each and every time.

Shaheen deserves it as well, he's top 5 best bowlers in world cricket.

Shadab has issues and I have problems with.

Rizwan is a good keeper and a great batsmen. No 4 isn't his thing, but make him open in odi or give him no 5, and he'll make magic at the crease.
 
TheSultan said:
You have a fearless ready made keeper in Haris. Bring him in.
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Haris is not even close to excellence of Rizwan keeping or batting as yet. Rizwan has to have two poor series consecutively to be dropped, as long as he is scoring fifties every fourth or fifth inning he is serving Pakistan well, although yes he should open or bat at 5. As for his fitness there is nothing wrong there at all, carrying niggles and knocks is not due to fitness issues.
 
I've made my displeasure about Rizwan's T20 batting and on-field dramatics known.

However I'm wary of Pakistan fans often proclaiming the guy on the bench to be our saviour.

Mohammad Haris has potential yes, but his List A record isn't anything to write home about. Average of 30 at a SR of 107. For now he should play T20Is.
 
Ali T said:
Since the start of this year.


Basically since the start of the year.
He's not setting the world on fire, but I think he warrants a few more goes before ruling him out.

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I forgot he had a decide NZ series, at least stats wise. My concern is that Rizwan doesn't have the tools for a big chase and is similar in style to Imam, Babar and even slightly Iftikhar (yes he can strike but it takes a while to get going). Pakistan need an innovative striker of the ball in the middle overs and the middle order.

But those are solid numbers for a short period so difficult to deny.
 
All of Pakistani pacers bowl at 145+ standing abit back than usual is not something I am surprised at.
 
Rizwan is not going anywhere. Some of you can cry and whine about it but he is has done plenty to warrant a continued run. He might be rested, but he is still the top choice by the management.
 
shamaan said:
All of Pakistani pacers bowl at 145+ standing abit back than usual is not something I am surprised at.
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He stands a little too far back, I commented back in 2020 that he was standing too far back and many balls didn't carry to him. And this also impacts the slips, who take their cue from him. Its an easy solution but somehow he is reluctant to stand a yard or 2 closer
 
Bewal Express said:
He stands a little too far back, I commented back in 2020 that he was standing too far back and many balls didn't carry to him. And this also impacts the slips, who take their cue from him. Its an easy solution but somehow he is reluctant to stand a yard or 2 closer
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How do you know he isn't standing 2 yards closer its not like they just focus on how many yards he is back.
 
He will get good fitness when the fast bowlers make him bounce billo bounce billo all day long all day long...
 
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This happens with Rizwan in every match. Same in today match with Bangladesh in Lahore
 
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WicketLord said:
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This happens with Rizwan in every match. Same in today match with Bangladesh in Lahore
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He ended up doing a Jean Claude Van Damme leg split while trying to play a cheeky stroke. It was unintentional, of course, and it looked very very painful just from watching. I am sure over 95% of cricketers would pull something or other if it happened to them, unless they are also part time trained gymnasts.

This is is not bad fitness, just a bad accident while batting.
 
Stewie said:
He ended up doing a Jean Claude Van Damme leg split while trying to play a cheeky stroke. It was unintentional, of course, and it looked very very painful just from watching. I am sure over 95% of cricketers would pull something or other if it happened to them, unless they are also part time trained gymnasts.

This is is not bad fitness, just a bad accident while batting.
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Yeah I don't think I'd be walking the same after this...

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May be Rizwan acts like a brittle doll to garner some attention. When Pakistan plays, every cricket fan in the world watches them for Babar or Shaheen or Rauf. No one watches Pakistan play for Rizwan's batting. So one way to make people take notice of him is act injured or hurt all the time. Cameras will be on him and people will think about him.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
His fitness seems like a myth only.. most of the time i found him limping, jumping and shaking his wrists after collecting a ball.
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And yet somehow he manages to complete the full game whether 20 overs or 50 overs while keeping and then bats too and scores fifties and spends time on the wicket. Very interesting!
 
How dare Rizwan cramp up a bit after keeping in 40-degree heat. And it's inexcusable for him to bat for only 93 mins after that. He should have batted longer... without a drinks break too :ROFLMAO:
 
Can we have an all around sight screen stadium named the “Mohammad Rizwan Stadium”

No spectators

Just sights screen
 
shamaan said:
Is thier any wicket keeper batsman who plays all three formats ?
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Rizwan doesn’t play Tests

Or he isn’t good enough to play Test. He’s overrated in the other 2 formats he plays as well
 
I wasn't asking if he's good enough or not to play test no other wicket keeper baring Rahim plays all three formats.
Rana said:
Rizwan doesn’t play Tests

Or he isn’t good enough to play Test. He’s overrated in the other 2 formats he plays as well
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shamaan said:
I wasn't asking if he's good enough or not to play test no other wicket keeper baring Rahim plays all three formats.
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Even in that case

Rizwan doesn’t play Test. He will not be selected ahead of Sarfaraz. Sarfaraz will be back v Australia
 
Rana said:
Even in that case

Rizwan doesn’t play Test. He will not be selected ahead of Sarfaraz. Sarfaraz will be back v Australia
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I doubt that Sarfaraz will stage a comeback given his poor performance in the last series.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
I doubt that Sarfaraz will stage a comeback given his poor performance in the last series.
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He didn't play well against Lanka, but even so. I do like the idea of resting Rizwan in the test arena so that he is not overloaded
 
Rana said:
Even in that case

Rizwan doesn’t play Test. He will not be selected ahead of Sarfaraz. Sarfaraz will be back v Australia
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Makes sense considering Sarfraz great record outside of Asia... oh wait. He has a Test average of 52 in Asia and has been completely garbage outside of it. 0 centuries outside and his highest score is 72.

Rizwan meanwhile has been good outside of Asia and averaging nearly 44 in Australia & NZ conditions.

Sarfraz is so far past his prime that it's shocking he hasn't retired from International cricket yet.
 
Nasty Naz said:
Makes sense considering Sarfraz great record outside of Asia... oh wait. He has a Test average of 52 in Asia and has been completely garbage outside of it. 0 centuries outside and his highest score is 72.

Rizwan meanwhile has been good outside of Asia and averaging nearly 44 in Australia & NZ conditions.

Sarfraz is so far past his prime that it's shocking he hasn't retired from International cricket yet.
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Oh wait What’s Babar’s test record outside Asia???
 
Rana said:
Even in that case

Rizwan doesn’t play Test. He will not be selected ahead of Sarfaraz. Sarfaraz will be back v Australia
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Rizwan should open in odi for the world cup, we need him along with imam as fakhar is out of form.

Rizwan will win you games at opening.
 
mominsaigol said:
Rizwan should open in odi for the world cup, we need him along with imam as fakhar is out of form.

Rizwan will win you games at opening.
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no i dont think so.

i think he is playeing so well at number 4 position, in place of fakhar we must give a chance to Abdullah Shafiq.
 
The title of this thread is emblematic of people not truly understanding what it takes to be an athlete. The man keeps wickets, plays every game, and runs between the wickets like an animal and people want him to just keep doing that without cramps or jams like it's a video game. Absurd position.
 
Rana said:
Dil ko behlane ke liye

Yeh khayaal acha hai Ghalib
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I'm serious, Fakhar has been out of form and we can't afford to go 1 down in the first 5 overdue every match, its the world cup.

Rizwan's favourite position is opening. And he already averages more then fakhar in a harder to Average format. Rizwan at opening allows us to play saud and tayyab at 4 and 5.
 
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