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[PICTURES] Shan Masood: Performance Watch

Pakistan’s best number 3 is Babar Azam

Don’t understand why Fakhar and Shan have been forced to bat there?

Simple : Because Babar is the best opener in the world. And he is a lot better at opening than playing at 3. Fakhar was just out of form. He can be the hitter we need in the midle order and the end of the innings. His 50 against Australia at the world cup was brilliant.
 
Shan looks uncomfortable as t20 player thouh he is an honest trier and an excellent fielder
 
Shan looks uncomfortable as t20 player thouh he is an honest trier and an excellent fielder

He is an olay/good fielder, no way an excellent fielder.

We have only two excellent fielders, it's Shadab and Haris Rauf.
 
Watch today's highlights of his batting in slow motion, and notice the short balls he missed.
At the point of bat's attempt to make contact with the bat, he is looking at the grass under his shoes.

It seems like he is mentally unsettled and trying too hard to prove himself by doing silly things. Someone needs to tell him that technique is important in T20s as well.
 
wasted a review, should've known he was out once he shuffled across

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Humble pie anyone? I'll take a piece.

I am regurgitating the humble pie. Not good enough, unfortunately. Not only is his technique atrocious, he tries to be cheeky quite frequently without having the talent to succeed in such endeavors. There's a video circulating on Facebook where Shan tried reverse sweep 5-10 times while practicing and missed all of them.
 
wasted a review, should've known he was out once he shuffled across

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Instinctively, many of these players take the review for personal benefit and NOT for the over all team benefit. They immediately gamble in the faintest of hopes to get a second chance at batting, in an effort to score some runs, and solidfy their chances of sticking to the team for a little longer.



Useless as his whole career so far…not one bit impressed

100% agreed.
Extremely poor technique, no fire in the belly, no passion, and no impact ... lol but yeah, he supposedly "works very hard". Absolutely cringe worthy player.
 
He is proof of the fact that if you do not have the natural ability, you will never be a top player no matter how hard you work.

He has a lot of likable qualities but he will never be anything more than a mediocre player. He just doesn’t have it in him and his fans should make peace with it.

Every talented player needs to work hard to become a top player. You cannot be a top player without hard work, but if you do not have the natural talent it will not work.

Hard work complements talent, it cannot substitute it.
 
Instinctively, many of these players take the review for personal benefit and NOT for the over all team benefit. They immediately gamble in the faintest of hopes to get a second chance at batting, in an effort to score some runs, and solidfy their chances of sticking to the team for a little longer.

It shouldn't happen with the captain on the non-strikers end. Poor judgement from Babar as well
 
Probably one of the worst player to ever play for Pakistan. Most Pakistani fans like him because he can speak good English & that's why they want him to be in the XI.
 
Not a great comeback, he's played some horrible shots to get out.

poor today, howevr i wouldnt want to give up on him, would like pakistan to host someone like zimbabwe - 5 match series give him the number 3 role, also also try harris(wicketkeeper) haider ali, + aamer jamal, mohammed wasim, dahani, hasnain, qadir, give them a full series = no changing
 
poor today, howevr i wouldnt want to give up on him, would like pakistan to host someone like zimbabwe - 5 match series give him the number 3 role, also also try harris(wicketkeeper) haider ali, + aamer jamal, mohammed wasim, dahani, hasnain, qadir, give them a full series = no changing

lol @ 3 role.

Do you even know for whom the number 3 slot is reserved for in the general scheme of batting order?
 
Not great today. His average is still decent due to that 60 odd not out. Still think we persist with him, we don’t have many other options, give him the long run most of our middle order batsmen have already got. Fakhar has had 70 t20s and I don’t think will do well at 3. Other middle order batsmen look worse. Though iftikhar has probably done well enough to take the no3 spot if he wanted it.
 
Not great today. His average is still decent due to that 60 odd not out. Still think we persist with him, we don’t have many other options, give him the long run most of our middle order batsmen have already got. Fakhar has had 70 t20s and I don’t think will do well at 3. Other middle order batsmen look worse. Though iftikhar has probably done well enough to take the no3 spot if he wanted it.

You didn’t just compare Fakhar to Shan did you ? He’s not a patch on fakhar , and whilst fakhars recent poor form is not what we expect from him he is still head and shoulder above him in the white ball format .
 
I am regurgitating the humble pie. Not good enough, unfortunately. Not only is his technique atrocious, he tries to be cheeky quite frequently without having the talent to succeed in such endeavors. There's a video circulating on Facebook where Shan tried reverse sweep 5-10 times while practicing and missed all of them.

Here it is

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Here it is

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He certainly didn't miss all of the reverse sweeps in this video. You have to practice these kind of shots for the modern limited overs game.
 
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It’s disrespectful to T20i cricket when guys like Shan and Imam play the game
 
It's so unfortunate that our selectors never learn. But really never.

Shan Masood can never ever play any other format than test cricket. If you think he has improved, if you think he is in the form of his life then select him in the test squad.
 
He certainly didn't miss all of the reverse sweeps in this video. You have to practice these kind of shots for the modern limited overs game.

True, my mistake, but missed some straightforward ones. Yes you need to practice, but if Asif Ali practices defense, then it is an exercise in futility. Shan does not have the talent to play these shots.
 
Here it is

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LOL HAHAHAHA
I can't believe this is a TEST level batsman.
 
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It's so unfortunate that our selectors never learn. But really never.

Do me a favour with your captain hindsight posts. Shan has had a barnstorming domestic season and in front of him was Khushdil Shah. It was an absolute no brainer to select him for this series and him failing has nothing to do with that.
 
He is proof of the fact that if you do not have the natural ability, you will never be a top player no matter how hard you work.

He has a lot of likable qualities but he will never be anything more than a mediocre player. He just doesn’t have it in him and his fans should make peace with it.

Every talented player needs to work hard to become a top player. You cannot be a top player without hard work, but if you do not have the natural talent it will not work.

Hard work complements talent, it cannot substitute it.

What about Mike Hussey and Jonathan Trott? They weren't exactly naturally gifted.
 
True, my mistake, but missed some straightforward ones. Yes you need to practice, but if Asif Ali practices defense, then it is an exercise in futility. Shan does not have the talent to play these shots.

That's a lazy excuse which sums up the mentality of the Pakistani players and coaches ie you don't have the talent for these shots hence it is pointless for you to practice these shots.

Players from England, Australia, India, New Zealand, South Africa practice these shots day in day out in their nets, domestic cricket which is why they are able to execute these shots at will in international cricket.
 
What about Mike Hussey and Jonathan Trott? They weren't exactly naturally gifted.

And that would be the difference between a Mike Hussey and Ponting and Jonathan Trott and a Pietersen.

But Hussey and Trott would still be more gifted than hundreds of other batsmen who have worked their socks off but never made it to international cricket or had any degree of success.

There are so many athletes who work their socks off but they never become elite level athletes simply because they just don’t have it in them.

Shan is one of those guys who ceiling is simply too low. Now if someone like Haris Sohail would have had his work ethic he could have been one of the best players in the world.

Most players don’t have the ability or the work ethic. When you combine both you get a world class player. If either of the two are missing you will fall short.
 
That's a lazy excuse which sums up the mentality of the Pakistani players and coaches ie you don't have the talent for these shots hence it is pointless for you to practice these shots.

Players from England, Australia, India, New Zealand, South Africa practice these shots day in day out in their nets, domestic cricket which is why they are able to execute these shots at will in international cricket.

How is it a lazy excuse? A fish can try all it wants to fly, but can it? The video shows exactly why he doesn't have the talent to play such shots. Even a gully muhalla player looks less fragile and more balanced than Shan when playing reverse and lap sweeps.

If practice were everything, will Fawad Alam become adept at playing reverse sweeps if he practices day in day out? Will Asad Shafiq be able to play the flick for six like Sharjeel if he practices day in day out?
 
How is it a lazy excuse? A fish can try all it wants to fly, but can it? The video shows exactly why he doesn't have the talent to play such shots. Even a gully muhalla player looks less fragile and more balanced than Shan when playing reverse and lap sweeps.

If practice were everything, will Fawad Alam become adept at playing reverse sweeps if he practices day in day out? Will Asad Shafiq be able to play the flick for six like Sharjeel if he practices day in day out?

We have plenty of reverse sweep talents in our team barring Shaan don't we?
 
I feel a fifty coming up from Shan today...but not with Pakistan winning
 
If there ever is an example of a stat padding innings, this innings by Shan is that. Playing solely to cement his place in the team and never really going for the win. I was a big supporter of his inclusion in the team, but this innings is criminal and he deserves all the criticism.
 
picking Shan over Sharjeel should be a fireable offense ... an absolutely mind boggling decision by M. Wasim !!
 
He batted 10 overs for himself.

When chasing +200, it should be hit out or get out.
 
Pakistan is very lucky to have one more anchor role player shan masood along with Rizwan and babar.
 
And the sad thing is that PCB uploaded a video of his innings on their youtube and they titled it "Brilliant Batting by Shan Masood." We have got absolutely clueless people everywhere in our cricket board.
 
And the sad thing is that PCB uploaded a video of his innings on their youtube and they titled it "Brilliant Batting by Shan Masood." We have got absolutely clueless people everywhere in our cricket board.

And here it is

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People blaming him for not showing "intent" clearly don't understand his game. He isn't a power hitter. Hitting aerial shots isn't his strength. Even when he's been his most successful in PSL or in England, he's done that through traditional ground strokes.

If you guys thought he was going to come in today and start hitting boundaries, I don't know what you were thinking. He tried his best, most of his doubles were failed slogs or hoiks across the line. He was out of his depth ,sent in to score 12 RPO with 2 wickets down.

I still back him to make the WC squad. That's not because I think he's a good t20 player but simply because even with his limitations, I prefer him over a hack like Iftikhar/khushdil/Asif. He is the lesser evil, if I may in the current situation.

And no I don't think he didn't try today, he did. He just didn't excel at it. Go back at look at the innings footage, he was trying to play big shots throughout. It didn't come off because a) he's not very good at it and b) he wasn't in good form at all.
 
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How is this a brilliant innings? No intent to go for the win. He was trying to stat pad to cement his place in the team.
 
Fakhar has to slot back in at number three or we are even more doomed.

Shan is not a batsman who can go at 150+ SR. Unfortunately, due to jokers like Iftikhar, Khushdil etc he won’t even be dropped.
 
How is this a brilliant innings? No intent to go for the win. He was trying to stat pad to cement his place in the team.

I agree but unfortunately this precedent was set by Misbah and it all began during the Mohali 2011 WC semi.
 
I agree but unfortunately this precedent was set by Misbah and it all began during the Mohali 2011 WC semi.

Yes, I am sure Shan must have watched Misbah's Mohali innings before he went out to bat and said to himself that I will bat in the same way. Who knew Misbah was so powerful?
 
Yes, I am sure Shan must have watched Misbah's Mohali innings before he went out to bat and said to himself that I will bat in the same way. Who knew Misbah was so powerful?

Misbah didn't show proper intent in that Mohali game until he went past 50 and the game was beyond reach. That helped him retain his side in the team.

As captain he brought this mindset into many of his players including at least 3 who are currently playing for the side. Wanna have a guess who they are?
 
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People blaming him for not showing "intent" clearly don't understand his game. He isn't a power hitter. Hitting aerial shots isn't his strength. Even when he's been his most successful in PSL or in England, he's done that through traditional ground strokes.

If you guys thought he was going to come in today and start hitting boundaries, I don't know what you were thinking. He tried his best, most of his doubles were failed slogs or hoiks across the line. He was out of his depth ,sent in to score 12 RPO with 2 wickets down.

I still back him to make the WC squad. That's not because I think he's a good t20 player but simply because even with his limitations, I prefer him over a hack like Iftikhar/khushdil/Asif. He is the lesser evil, if I may in the current situation.

And no I don't think he didn't try today, he did. He just didn't excel at it. Go back at look at the innings footage, he was trying to play big shots throughout. It didn't come off because a) he's not very good at it and b) he wasn't in good form at all.

Think we have to persist now. He didn’t do great but still had a ok series average and ok SR despite only scoring in lost games. The middle order batsmen failed again averaging 20 or below at terrible SR mostly.

Asif has had 49 t20 games and averages 15. Iftikhar has had over 30, even Khushdil has had 24. Fakhar has had 70 and averaged 14 SR 102 this year. Masood has played 7 and yes his stats are inflated a little but it’s over 30 at a SR 131. On that basis alone he deserves a few more chances given the number of chances and the number of failures the other middle order batsmen have been given.
 
Misbah didn't show proper intent in that Mohali game until he went past 50 and the game was beyond reach. That helped him retain his side in the team.

As captain he brought this mindset into many of his players including at least 3 who are currently playing for the side. Wanna have a guess who they are?

Lol I know you are looking to take shots at Misbah at every opportunity. His era is long over yet you think about him day and night.
 
Lol I know you are looking to take shots at Misbah at every opportunity. His era is long over yet you think about him day and night.

Actually more like you defend him at every opportunity. If I remember correctly, you used to put up pics of him as your avatar?
 
Should never play for Pakistan again.

Why?

Rizwan was allowed to play after the AC final and he scored 300+ runs in a series which we should have lost 6-1

Why do we allow him to stay but Shan has to go? Shan was 3rd highest runs getter
 
Even though hes not a t20 player at least shan manages a few runs

He makes it in the squad not because hes any good but just because the other players are worse than him
 
Even though hes not a t20 player at least shan manages a few runs

He makes it in the squad not because hes any good but just because the other players are worse than him

If you watched the game it was a selfish knock.
 
Hope all the boys enjoyed the cake cutting ceremony in honour of his momentous 50.
 
If you watched the game it was a selfish knock.

Yes it was

And? Which other players are you gonna take instead of him

The batting bar babar and rizwan is tailender level

Shan is awful but the liked of happy heart chacha and the 6 hitter are worse

Its a desperate state of affairs for pakistan They have no better options
 
Did Shan have an offer in CPL which he refused to play national cup?

He must be a well sought after T20 player for the chief selector to especially request him to play national T20?
 
Actually more like you defend him at every opportunity. If I remember correctly, you used to put up pics of him as your avatar?

I don't defend him at every opportunity. I even criticised him when he was our coach. I just don't pin the blame of everything that is wrong with Pakistan cricket on Misbah's shoulders.
 
If you watched the game it was a selfish knock.

Yeah but the others aren’t even hitting selfish knocks. And it’s not like they’re trying to be selfless either, they’re playing at worse strike rates than he is.

But mostly I feel he should be awarded more chances because the rest have had many times more and still failed.
 
Why?

Rizwan was allowed to play after the AC final and he scored 300+ runs in a series which we should have lost 6-1

Why do we allow him to stay but Shan has to go? Shan was 3rd highest runs getter

Rizwan is keeper as well & without any doubt best in Pakistan. Shan is useless not only in T20I's but in all formats.
As far as runs are concerned atleast Riz scored runs in the games which Pak won unlike Shan.
 
Better intent from Shan at the moment - 30*(19)
 
Hardworking Shan Masood not letting us and Pakistan down :)
 
Despite the initial struggles that was a far far better innings. Intent from ball 1 and never stopped looking for the boundaries. Thats the approach the middle order needs to follow.
 
Struggled in the earlier part of the innings so good comeback
 
Enough is enough. If Shan does score he would make an ugly 25 off 22 balls. He just does not have the game to accelerate.

Shan is a disaster for our T20 XI. Whether he scores or doesn't, him being in the line up is a massive disadvantage.

Just hope someone has in the team management has the guts to a make a bold move and drop him
 
Honestly, the management and selectors should be sacked.

You have Haider Ali who showed a lot of promise unable to get in to the side. Then you have an experience player like Shan Masood who is in absolutely sublime form who is just being ignored for all formats.

Yet we're fine with sticking to oldies such as Iftikhar who has done nothing for the national side and has been playing for how many years now?

The mind truly boggles

Does it still boggles your mind?
 
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