[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Indian elections (2024) Discussion Thread

Which political party will win the upcoming general elections in India in 2024?

  • Aam Adami Party (AAP)

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  • Communist Party (CP)

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  • National People's Party (NPP)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Some other regional party

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  • Total voters
    25
Hey SIF bro, long time...how you been?

You 'Indian Politics' thread is superhit here. You can find brother @pillionrider and me there 24*7 :rolleyes:


On topic, which data it is that is suggesting the fight is tight? Not doubting your statement at all but just asking since I don't live in India.

All the survey and opinion polls saying NDA is winning by big margin.

As far as Modi's polarizing statements are concerned, it is only to excite their core voters to come out and vote as in 1st phase as BJP supporters took it lightly. However, that does not mean BJP is losing, isn't it?

Please confirm what I am missing here?


Below is the opinion poll figures:

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How can BJP lose suddenly from this kind of projection done by various agencies? :vk1
Hi Rajdeep bhai…

All good bro.

Aap kaise ho?

Been super busy these days so don’t have the time (or energy or mental bandwidth lol) to regularly post on forums….

So coming back to the election:

First things first, let’s talk about the opinion polls.

As valuable as they are, they can (and do) go wrong.

  1. Bengal 2020
  2. Madhya Pradesh 2023 (almost everyone except Axis India and Chanakya got it wrong even in exit polls - let alone opinion polls)
  3. Even Rajasthan 2023 (most polls predicted Congress will have slight edge)

Take a look at this article about the history of exit polls in Lok Sabha elections from 2004

https://www.financialexpress.com/in...redictions-results-in-2004-2009-2014/1582662/

2004 and 2009 - most pollsters got it wrong even in exit polls (let alone opinion polls).

I am sure methodology must have improved over the years but as we saw in Bengal and Madhya Pradesh, you still never know.

Now before I give you a breakdown of numbers, let’s get certain things clear:

  1. This election is NOT a Modi vs Rahul fight. It’s a Modi vs India Alliance fight. Just see the ads & messaging of BJP (NDA) vs India alliance.
  2. While the India Alliance might look like a khichdi in states like Punjab, West Bengal where they are all fighting each other (lol)....there is solid synchronisation in Bihar, Uttar Pradesh, Maharashtra (be it strategy, messaging or ground level workers - some here & there mishaps can happen but I haven’t heard any till now).
  3. Unlike 2014 and 2019, there is no massive emotional wave this time which is why the voting numbers are down in most places. A lot of local issues are at play in this election (which wasn’t the case in 2014 and 2019).

Now let’s discuss the numbers.

Very simple way to look at it.


1. 2024 Election Overview


Bjp won 303 seats in 2019

But to do so it had to sweep so many states.

Gujarat sweep
Madhya pradesh sweep
Karnataka sweep except 1 seat
Rajasthan sweep
UP 65 out of 80
Haryana sweep
Himachal sweep
And many other hindi belt states where they swept or got close to 80-90% seats

They won 238 out of 257 Lok Sabha seats (from 13 states) with a 93% strike rate.

What this also means is their run rate outside of these belts were so bad.

Now in 2024...BJP has to sweep all these places to maintain 303

Alliance partners got 50 last time when there was a wave.

This time…I am not sure if they will muster that.

Pradeep Gupta from Axis India (the exit poll guy) predicted bjp will find it impossible to gain more seats from these 13 states and will likely lose seats this time around.

So the goal for the opposition is very simple.

Just reduce bjp tally...

If BJP gets down to 250...it will need alliance partners to form the government.

If it gets down to 220-230 ...it won’t form the government even with alliance partners cos if BJP’s tally has reduced so much, same will happen to the alliance partner’s tally.

So the name of the game is snatching seats from BJP and denying them new inroads in other states.


2. Let’s talk about BJP inroads first


Tamil Nadu -
Bjp is getting 0-2 seats in TN (actually 0 but a guy i respect says they atleast have a contest in 2 seats - not sure which 2 cos Annamalai is struggling in his own constituency)

Telangana - They might add 1-2 more to their 2019 tally (but I am yet to get clear data on this).

Andhra Pradesh - BJP is in alliance. Contesting in 6. I don’t have the data yet on how well or badly it’s doing.

West Bengal - Highly doubtful they are repeating the 2019 tally of 18 seats let alone increase it. Even in the opinion polls till now, all predict 16-20 range. From what I am hearing, in Phase 1 and 2, they had favourable seats in Bengal and even those didn’t go well.

Odisha - Don’t have data yet but according to opinion polls itself, BJP expected to be at the same tally as previous election.

These are the main states where BJP can add to their tally (excluding a few small states in North East) and from the looks of it, they aren’t making any major level inroads so far.


3. Now let’s talk about states where BJP clean swept or did very very well in 2019


Karnataka -
Congress has performed very very well. Their guarantees have worked among women. The voting pattern of men & women has been very different in Karnataka.

An example (click on the date to open the tweet)


Even in BJP fortresses like Bangalore South and Central, there is a tough competition.

So out of 28 seats....congress is likely to get 14 seats… Some say even say 18+ but i wanna be conservative. So 10-14 seats will be snatched from here. We will know it clearly after phase 3 where the final 14 seats go for the vote.

Rajasthan - If Gehlot had listened to strategist Sunil Kanugolu...he might have still been the CM of Rajasthan. Ground reports are there is a lot of anger in Rajasthan. Heard Gehlot schemes were stopped or merged. Congress is projected to get 8-12 seats out of 25.
6 is pretty much there. Others close contest which is too hard to tell now.

Today saw a pro BJP handle that gives NDA 300+ saying it will lose around 6 seats in Rajasthan.

So 8-10 seats are taken out here.

Heard Satta Bazar predictions have changed for Rajasthan (click on the date to open the tweet)


Don’t take any one of them as the ultimate truth. These are just how things are directionally.

Gujarat - BJP will sweep. I wanna see how Chaitar Vasava does but from a practical standpoint, I will assume not a single seat can be won by the opposition.

Madhya Pradesh - BJP will sweep.

Haryana - So badly run they are set to lose the assembly elections that’s coming up. Lok Sabha, 3-4 seats are a goner from what I hear. Will get more data with time.

Delhi - Media expects a BJP sweep but I highly doubt it. Kejriwal's arrest hasn’t gone down well at all. Plus Congress & AAP are fighting together (even though there might be internal bickerings here and there). Time will tell.

Himachal, Chattisgarh, Jharkhand - BJP swept here and they have to hope they don’t drop any seats here.

Now coming to the BIG 3 STATES where the elections will be won or lost.

Uttar Pradesh - Bjp won 65 out of 80 here. Before phase 1....bjp aimed for 80. Now aim is for 70-75. Opinion polls are giving them 70-75.

But ground level...things are really really not that great. Bjp has a small chance to get 70 seats (plus 5 from 2019 tally)...Small chance to keep its tally at 65. But a very very high chance for it to drop down in a localized election with 10 year anti incumbency.

For simplicity's sake, let’s safely assume BJP maintains its tally in UP 65 seats.

I am giving them ZERO loss even though ground reports aren’t great. Pradeep Gupta has clearly mentioned BJP will find it almost impossible to increase it’s tally in one of the 13 states (which UP is a part of).

Let the data emerge. We will get more clarity.

Bihar - Even opinion polls predict atleast 8 seats for the India alliance. Tejasvi Yadav is one talented nepo kid (campaigning wise). In 2020, he ran a phenomenal campaign and his party got the highest seats. The only mistake he did was that he started the campaign too late. In 2024, he is going all out with doing 97 rallies in 3 weeks with 120 more to go. Also he is playing Modi’s speeches in his rallies about berozgari, inflation, etc lol.

BJP is set to drop 8-10 seats here. I am hearing way better numbers (15-20) but I want to check and wait for more clearer data.

Maharashtra - The one state where India Alliance has a CLEAR lead. BMC elections have been postponed for 2 years (just like Delhi Mayor elections just did) and it’s no rocket science to know why.

After Uttar Pradesh, Maharashtra sends the most MPs to Lok Sabha - 48. Last time, NDA won 41 seats with UPA winning just 5. This time, India alliance is projected to do atleast 20-25….more like 25-30. Even the opinion polls are giving these numbers (and they predicted NDA to sweep Karnataka and Rajasthan which obviously isn’t happening).

If that happens, BJP is dropping 15-20 seats.

A small sample of what’s happening in Maharashtra (click on the date to open the tweet)


This is happening NOT because there is a Rahul Gandhi wave…but because the India Alliance is stronger.


4. Let’s tally up the numbers


The game is ALL about where BJP stands at the end.

BJP in 2019 - 303

Karnataka - 10-14 loss.

Rajasthan - 8-10 loss.

Haryana - 3-4 loss (this I need more data to be honest - but Haryana has sooo much anti-incumbency)

Bihar - 8-10 loss

Maharashtra - 15-25 loss

That brings it to 44 - 63 seats.

I have excluded Delhi where BJP might drop 2-3 (hearing reports that Manoj Tiwari is struggling against Kanhaiya Kumar).

I have assumed BJP will match it’s UP tally (a herculean task)

I have assumed BJP ain’t dropping seats in Bengal (which does look likely cos those 18 seats came in a wave election)

I have assumed the BJP won’t drop seats in Chattisgarh, Himachal, Jharkhand and many other small states.

With the reduced tally, where does BJP stand:

240-259


Assuming they don’t mess up any tough state (like WB) badly and don’t drop any more seats in the hindi hinterland & Delhi….they would still need alliance partners to form the government.

Assuming none of the partners betray them (cos God knows how many of them were threatened)...they will form the government.

If BJP slips to 220-230, it won’t form the government.

And that’s why Modi is making statements about

Mangalsutra
Mutton
Machli
Buffaloes
Now openly calling Muslims as Jihadis
Wealth tax (which isn’t even in Congress manifesto)

Ask yourself a simple question,

If BJP was on track to win 330 seats, why would someone as image conscious as Modi go and talk like this and demean his credibility at the local & international level?

He could keep talking about what he has done for people, the BJP manifesto, the future, etc, etc.

But that’s not what’s happening.

Why? Cos the game is TOO DAMN TIGHT.

Still BJP can form the government like @pillionrider mentioned

But they must be feeling a real chill down their spine.

If BJP does end up sweeping Bengal or Maharashtra or UP, they would come close to 272 on its own but that’s unlikely.

They might spring a surprise by getting a lion’s share of the seats in Telangana, Odisha but even that’s unlikely.

But if they drop seats in Bengal, UP, Delhi and a few states (along with the drops in the states I mentioned)…

It’s game over.

And the BJP knows this ALL TOO WELL.

So that’s pretty much it bro.


Closing thoughts:


1. Obvious disclaimer:

I could be 100% wrong but looking at circumstantial evidence of how everyone is behaving, chances the fight is tight. Will be a good learning experience regardless.

2. It doesn’t matter what tally NDA is projected to have. What matters is what tally BJP ends up having.

Parties like TDP, YS Jagan Mohan Reddy, Naveen Patnaik can swing any direction if BJP falls short.

Everyone thinks DMK will sweep TN 39 seats. But I have heard from one guy whom I respect that there are 8 seats in TN that DMK might be losing (which isn’t linked to India Alliance or NDA). It could be AIADMK. Remember, Edappadi Palanisamy Kongu belt had massive turnouts so it COULD be a possibility. These things may or may not materialise but let’s say it does. If the game goes down to the wire and it’s Edapaddi who has to choose between India or NDA ...chances are he will NOT pick NDA cos 2026 elections are coming and he knows BJP will do all it can to sideline AIADMK.

But on the flip side, if BJP can muster support from independent candidates to make up the numbers, Edapaddi will be the first to run to NDA alliance to be in their good books and make it easier for them to form the government.

There are tons and tons of variables here and anything can happen.

It’s like a T20 game. You are just 1-2 cameos away from winning or losing a game lol.

3. If you wanna know who is behind Congress strategy, it’s Sunil Kanugolu.

You can read about him here -

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/...dias-modi-down-10-years-after-helping-him-win

  • He was with Prashant Kishore for the 2014 Lok Sabha election.
  • Played a role in helping BJP win UP in 2017.
  • He is the reason Congress won Karnataka and Telangana.
  • Ashok Gehlot & Kamal Nath dakkans didn’t listen to him and the campaign got messed up (BJP might have won MP regardless but Rajasthan was a totally salvageable)
  • Congress asked Sunil to take over full responsibility of Lok Sabha which he denied saying you need to start fighting for the next Lok Sabha from the day you lose the previous election especially when you are up against someone like Modi. He has taken partial responsibility in select seats and is trying his best.

4. For the first time ever, I am seeing Congress behaving like BJP and BJP behaving like Congress (messaging wise).

In 2014, BJP’s main message was development (and how they will tackle corruption).

In 2019, BJP’s main message was nationalism (other things matter too but they are there to add or strengthen the main message).

In 2024, their messaging is all over the place imho. Yes, there are some Modi guarantees but the focus is all over the place. When your messaging is locked in, you focus on that with precision…and not go on tangential rants about your opponents.

BJp has not been able to set a clear narrative or wave this time imho.

Yes, Ram Mandir will fetch them votes but the wave they thought it would create didn’t materialise.

On the other hand, Congress has a clear messaging about Inflation & Unemployment (which honestly is a huge huge huge problem in India) and has 5 schemes related to that. And they keep talking about it over and over and over again.

And the campaign is people centric as opposed to personality centric (which works for them cos India Alliance doesn’t have a tall leader who can command votes across the nation on his name).

5. BJP Strategy For Winning

While BJP hasn’t been good at all messaging wise (in my opinion), they can still win cos messaging is NOT the be all and end all of elections. Lots of factors play a role. Religious equation, caste equation, positioning, image, etc. Plus BJP has far better ground presence than India Alliance and that does matter.

Modi is going all out polarising because MAYBE their data shows if BJP can swing a particular % of votes, they could make up for the losses they would face in certain states.

It could work.

But if I remember correctly, whenever BJP went ultra hard on communalism, they faced defeat.

Delhi 2020 (AAP swept).
Bengal 2020 (Didi swept)
Delhi Muncipality 2022 (Aap won but didn’t sweep but that’s mostly due to them focusing too much on Gujarat plus delimitation).

But those were elections where opposition was too strong.

Here BJP is in lead and the margins are tight.

So who knows.

Time will tell.

---

Phew.

Honestly, this took me over 2 hours to compile and write yesterday night and one hour to check today....which is yet another reason I don’t post in forums these days lol.

It’s too much work lol.

By the way, I wanna say hi to all Indian and Pak resident posters….long time fellas.

Hope you are all doing well.
 
Hi Rajdeep bhai…

All good bro.

Aap kaise ho?

Been super busy these days so don’t have the time (or energy or mental bandwidth lol) to regularly post on forums….

So coming back to the election:

First things first, let’s talk about the opinion polls.

As valuable as they are, they can (and do) go wrong.

  1. Bengal 2020
  2. Madhya Pradesh 2023 (almost everyone except Axis India and Chanakya got it wrong even in exit polls - let alone opinion polls)
  3. Even Rajasthan 2023 (most polls predicted Congress will have slight edge)

Take a look at this article about the history of exit polls in Lok Sabha elections from 2004

https://www.financialexpress.com/in...redictions-results-in-2004-2009-2014/1582662/

2004 and 2009 - most pollsters got it wrong even in exit polls (let alone opinion polls).

I am sure methodology must have improved over the years but as we saw in Bengal and Madhya Pradesh, you still never know.

Now before I give you a breakdown of numbers, let’s get certain things clear:

  1. This election is NOT a Modi vs Rahul fight. It’s a Modi vs India Alliance fight. Just see the ads & messaging of BJP (NDA) vs India alliance.
  2. While the India Alliance might look like a khichdi in states like Punjab, West Bengal where they are all fighting each other (lol)....there is solid synchronisation in Bihar, Uttar Pradesh, Maharashtra (be it strategy, messaging or ground level workers - some here & there mishaps can happen but I haven’t heard any till now).
  3. Unlike 2014 and 2019, there is no massive emotional wave this time which is why the voting numbers are down in most places. A lot of local issues are at play in this election (which wasn’t the case in 2014 and 2019).

Now let’s discuss the numbers.

Very simple way to look at it.


1. 2024 Election Overview


Bjp won 303 seats in 2019

But to do so it had to sweep so many states.

Gujarat sweep
Madhya pradesh sweep
Karnataka sweep except 1 seat
Rajasthan sweep
UP 65 out of 80
Haryana sweep
Himachal sweep
And many other hindi belt states where they swept or got close to 80-90% seats

They won 238 out of 257 Lok Sabha seats (from 13 states) with a 93% strike rate.

What this also means is their run rate outside of these belts were so bad.

Now in 2024...BJP has to sweep all these places to maintain 303

Alliance partners got 50 last time when there was a wave.

This time…I am not sure if they will muster that.

Pradeep Gupta from Axis India (the exit poll guy) predicted bjp will find it impossible to gain more seats from these 13 states and will likely lose seats this time around.

So the goal for the opposition is very simple.

Just reduce bjp tally...

If BJP gets down to 250...it will need alliance partners to form the government.

If it gets down to 220-230 ...it won’t form the government even with alliance partners cos if BJP’s tally has reduced so much, same will happen to the alliance partner’s tally.

So the name of the game is snatching seats from BJP and denying them new inroads in other states.


2. Let’s talk about BJP inroads first


Tamil Nadu -
Bjp is getting 0-2 seats in TN (actually 0 but a guy i respect says they atleast have a contest in 2 seats - not sure which 2 cos Annamalai is struggling in his own constituency)

Telangana - They might add 1-2 more to their 2019 tally (but I am yet to get clear data on this).

Andhra Pradesh - BJP is in alliance. Contesting in 6. I don’t have the data yet on how well or badly it’s doing.

West Bengal - Highly doubtful they are repeating the 2019 tally of 18 seats let alone increase it. Even in the opinion polls till now, all predict 16-20 range. From what I am hearing, in Phase 1 and 2, they had favourable seats in Bengal and even those didn’t go well.

Odisha - Don’t have data yet but according to opinion polls itself, BJP expected to be at the same tally as previous election.

These are the main states where BJP can add to their tally (excluding a few small states in North East) and from the looks of it, they aren’t making any major level inroads so far.


3. Now let’s talk about states where BJP clean swept or did very very well in 2019


Karnataka -
Congress has performed very very well. Their guarantees have worked among women. The voting pattern of men & women has been very different in Karnataka.

An example (click on the date to open the tweet)


Even in BJP fortresses like Bangalore South and Central, there is a tough competition.

So out of 28 seats....congress is likely to get 14 seats… Some say even say 18+ but i wanna be conservative. So 10-14 seats will be snatched from here. We will know it clearly after phase 3 where the final 14 seats go for the vote.

Rajasthan - If Gehlot had listened to strategist Sunil Kanugolu...he might have still been the CM of Rajasthan. Ground reports are there is a lot of anger in Rajasthan. Heard Gehlot schemes were stopped or merged. Congress is projected to get 8-12 seats out of 25.
6 is pretty much there. Others close contest which is too hard to tell now.

Today saw a pro BJP handle that gives NDA 300+ saying it will lose around 6 seats in Rajasthan.

So 8-10 seats are taken out here.

Heard Satta Bazar predictions have changed for Rajasthan (click on the date to open the tweet)


Don’t take any one of them as the ultimate truth. These are just how things are directionally.

Gujarat - BJP will sweep. I wanna see how Chaitar Vasava does but from a practical standpoint, I will assume not a single seat can be won by the opposition.

Madhya Pradesh - BJP will sweep.

Haryana - So badly run they are set to lose the assembly elections that’s coming up. Lok Sabha, 3-4 seats are a goner from what I hear. Will get more data with time.

Delhi - Media expects a BJP sweep but I highly doubt it. Kejriwal's arrest hasn’t gone down well at all. Plus Congress & AAP are fighting together (even though there might be internal bickerings here and there). Time will tell.

Himachal, Chattisgarh, Jharkhand - BJP swept here and they have to hope they don’t drop any seats here.

Now coming to the BIG 3 STATES where the elections will be won or lost.

Uttar Pradesh - Bjp won 65 out of 80 here. Before phase 1....bjp aimed for 80. Now aim is for 70-75. Opinion polls are giving them 70-75.

But ground level...things are really really not that great. Bjp has a small chance to get 70 seats (plus 5 from 2019 tally)...Small chance to keep its tally at 65. But a very very high chance for it to drop down in a localized election with 10 year anti incumbency.

For simplicity's sake, let’s safely assume BJP maintains its tally in UP 65 seats.

I am giving them ZERO loss even though ground reports aren’t great. Pradeep Gupta has clearly mentioned BJP will find it almost impossible to increase it’s tally in one of the 13 states (which UP is a part of).

Let the data emerge. We will get more clarity.

Bihar - Even opinion polls predict atleast 8 seats for the India alliance. Tejasvi Yadav is one talented nepo kid (campaigning wise). In 2020, he ran a phenomenal campaign and his party got the highest seats. The only mistake he did was that he started the campaign too late. In 2024, he is going all out with doing 97 rallies in 3 weeks with 120 more to go. Also he is playing Modi’s speeches in his rallies about berozgari, inflation, etc lol.

BJP is set to drop 8-10 seats here. I am hearing way better numbers (15-20) but I want to check and wait for more clearer data.

Maharashtra - The one state where India Alliance has a CLEAR lead. BMC elections have been postponed for 2 years (just like Delhi Mayor elections just did) and it’s no rocket science to know why.

After Uttar Pradesh, Maharashtra sends the most MPs to Lok Sabha - 48. Last time, NDA won 41 seats with UPA winning just 5. This time, India alliance is projected to do atleast 20-25….more like 25-30. Even the opinion polls are giving these numbers (and they predicted NDA to sweep Karnataka and Rajasthan which obviously isn’t happening).

If that happens, BJP is dropping 15-20 seats.

A small sample of what’s happening in Maharashtra (click on the date to open the tweet)


This is happening NOT because there is a Rahul Gandhi wave…but because the India Alliance is stronger.


4. Let’s tally up the numbers


The game is ALL about where BJP stands at the end.

BJP in 2019 - 303

Karnataka - 10-14 loss.

Rajasthan - 8-10 loss.

Haryana - 3-4 loss (this I need more data to be honest - but Haryana has sooo much anti-incumbency)

Bihar - 8-10 loss

Maharashtra - 15-25 loss

That brings it to 44 - 63 seats.

I have excluded Delhi where BJP might drop 2-3 (hearing reports that Manoj Tiwari is struggling against Kanhaiya Kumar).

I have assumed BJP will match it’s UP tally (a herculean task)

I have assumed BJP ain’t dropping seats in Bengal (which does look likely cos those 18 seats came in a wave election)

I have assumed the BJP won’t drop seats in Chattisgarh, Himachal, Jharkhand and many other small states.

With the reduced tally, where does BJP stand:

240-259


Assuming they don’t mess up any tough state (like WB) badly and don’t drop any more seats in the hindi hinterland & Delhi….they would still need alliance partners to form the government.

Assuming none of the partners betray them (cos God knows how many of them were threatened)...they will form the government.

If BJP slips to 220-230, it won’t form the government.

And that’s why Modi is making statements about

Mangalsutra
Mutton
Machli
Buffaloes
Now openly calling Muslims as Jihadis
Wealth tax (which isn’t even in Congress manifesto)

Ask yourself a simple question,

If BJP was on track to win 330 seats, why would someone as image conscious as Modi go and talk like this and demean his credibility at the local & international level?

He could keep talking about what he has done for people, the BJP manifesto, the future, etc, etc.

But that’s not what’s happening.

Why? Cos the game is TOO DAMN TIGHT.

Still BJP can form the government like @pillionrider mentioned

But they must be feeling a real chill down their spine.

If BJP does end up sweeping Bengal or Maharashtra or UP, they would come close to 272 on its own but that’s unlikely.

They might spring a surprise by getting a lion’s share of the seats in Telangana, Odisha but even that’s unlikely.

But if they drop seats in Bengal, UP, Delhi and a few states (along with the drops in the states I mentioned)…

It’s game over.

And the BJP knows this ALL TOO WELL.

So that’s pretty much it bro.


Closing thoughts:


1. Obvious disclaimer:

I could be 100% wrong but looking at circumstantial evidence of how everyone is behaving, chances the fight is tight. Will be a good learning experience regardless.

2. It doesn’t matter what tally NDA is projected to have. What matters is what tally BJP ends up having.

Parties like TDP, YS Jagan Mohan Reddy, Naveen Patnaik can swing any direction if BJP falls short.

Everyone thinks DMK will sweep TN 39 seats. But I have heard from one guy whom I respect that there are 8 seats in TN that DMK might be losing (which isn’t linked to India Alliance or NDA). It could be AIADMK. Remember, Edappadi Palanisamy Kongu belt had massive turnouts so it COULD be a possibility. These things may or may not materialise but let’s say it does. If the game goes down to the wire and it’s Edapaddi who has to choose between India or NDA ...chances are he will NOT pick NDA cos 2026 elections are coming and he knows BJP will do all it can to sideline AIADMK.

But on the flip side, if BJP can muster support from independent candidates to make up the numbers, Edapaddi will be the first to run to NDA alliance to be in their good books and make it easier for them to form the government.

There are tons and tons of variables here and anything can happen.

It’s like a T20 game. You are just 1-2 cameos away from winning or losing a game lol.

3. If you wanna know who is behind Congress strategy, it’s Sunil Kanugolu.

You can read about him here -

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/...dias-modi-down-10-years-after-helping-him-win

  • He was with Prashant Kishore for the 2014 Lok Sabha election.
  • Played a role in helping BJP win UP in 2017.
  • He is the reason Congress won Karnataka and Telangana.
  • Ashok Gehlot & Kamal Nath dakkans didn’t listen to him and the campaign got messed up (BJP might have won MP regardless but Rajasthan was a totally salvageable)
  • Congress asked Sunil to take over full responsibility of Lok Sabha which he denied saying you need to start fighting for the next Lok Sabha from the day you lose the previous election especially when you are up against someone like Modi. He has taken partial responsibility in select seats and is trying his best.

4. For the first time ever, I am seeing Congress behaving like BJP and BJP behaving like Congress (messaging wise).

In 2014, BJP’s main message was development (and how they will tackle corruption).

In 2019, BJP’s main message was nationalism (other things matter too but they are there to add or strengthen the main message).

In 2024, their messaging is all over the place imho. Yes, there are some Modi guarantees but the focus is all over the place. When your messaging is locked in, you focus on that with precision…and not go on tangential rants about your opponents.

BJp has not been able to set a clear narrative or wave this time imho.

Yes, Ram Mandir will fetch them votes but the wave they thought it would create didn’t materialise.

On the other hand, Congress has a clear messaging about Inflation & Unemployment (which honestly is a huge huge huge problem in India) and has 5 schemes related to that. And they keep talking about it over and over and over again.

And the campaign is people centric as opposed to personality centric (which works for them cos India Alliance doesn’t have a tall leader who can command votes across the nation on his name).

5. BJP Strategy For Winning

While BJP hasn’t been good at all messaging wise (in my opinion), they can still win cos messaging is NOT the be all and end all of elections. Lots of factors play a role. Religious equation, caste equation, positioning, image, etc. Plus BJP has far better ground presence than India Alliance and that does matter.

Modi is going all out polarising because MAYBE their data shows if BJP can swing a particular % of votes, they could make up for the losses they would face in certain states.

It could work.

But if I remember correctly, whenever BJP went ultra hard on communalism, they faced defeat.

Delhi 2020 (AAP swept).
Bengal 2020 (Didi swept)
Delhi Muncipality 2022 (Aap won but didn’t sweep but that’s mostly due to them focusing too much on Gujarat plus delimitation).

But those were elections where opposition was too strong.

Here BJP is in lead and the margins are tight.

So who knows.

Time will tell.

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Phew.

Honestly, this took me over 2 hours to compile and write yesterday night and one hour to check today....which is yet another reason I don’t post in forums these days lol.

It’s too much work lol.

By the way, I wanna say hi to all Indian and Pak resident posters….long time fellas.

Hope you are all doing well.

Don’t know what methodology you used… In India 90% media is against BJP and Modi, but even when they conducted opinion poll prior to voting, all clearly give BJP 350+.

In Maharashtra, u put one video, where one fellow sarcastically said Rahul Gandhi and all are exploded laughing… u taken that seriously? On that basis u r giving India alliance lead?… ur survey looks similar to the survey conducted by ABP Majha…. IMO u and ABP majha both haven’t considered the strength of Ajit Pawar’s rashtravadi and Eknath Shinde’s shivsena ….But my prediction is 42+ in Maharashtra for BJP+
 
Don’t know what methodology you used… In India 90% media is against BJP and Modi, but even when they conducted opinion poll prior to voting, all clearly give BJP 350+.

In Maharashtra, u put one video, where one fellow sarcastically said Rahul Gandhi and all are exploded laughing… u taken that seriously? On that basis u r giving India alliance lead?… ur survey looks similar to the survey conducted by ABP Majha…. IMO u and ABP majha both haven’t considered the strength of Ajit Pawar’s rashtravadi and Eknath Shinde’s shivsena ….But my prediction is 42+ in Maharashtra for BJP+
Comprehension skills is important.

I CLEARLY mentioned that the video is not a result of Rahul wave but because India alliance is stronger.

Which clearly means,the video is a RESULT of whats happening at the ground and not the other way around.

But naturally you had to assume I am judging Maharashtra based on one random video. :LOL:

You mention - "In India 90% media is against BJP and Modi"

:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
Don’t know what methodology you used… In India 90% media is against BJP and Modi, but even when they conducted opinion poll prior to voting, all clearly give BJP 350+.

In Maharashtra, u put one video, where one fellow sarcastically said Rahul Gandhi and all are exploded laughing… u taken that seriously? On that basis u r giving India alliance lead?… ur survey looks similar to the survey conducted by ABP Majha…. IMO u and ABP majha both haven’t considered the strength of Ajit Pawar’s rashtravadi and Eknath Shinde’s shivsena ….But my prediction is 42+ in Maharashtra for BJP+
Nice joke. Arnab Goswami be like: Kuch bhi? 😆 :inti
 
Comprehension skills is important.

I CLEARLY mentioned that the video is not a result of Rahul wave but because India alliance is stronger.

Which clearly means,the video is a RESULT of whats happening at the ground and not the other way around.

But naturally you had to assume I am judging Maharashtra based on one random video. :LOL:

You mention - "In India 90% media is against BJP and Modi"

:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

U and some marathi media underestimated strength of Eknath Shinde and Ajit Pawar …. Both of them hold larger strength than the remaining faction. Also MNS will add more power to BJP+
 
Comprehension skills is important.

I CLEARLY mentioned that the video is not a result of Rahul wave but because India alliance is stronger.

Which clearly means,the video is a RESULT of whats happening at the ground and not the other way around.

But naturally you had to assume I am judging Maharashtra based on one random video. :LOL:

You mention - "In India 90% media is against BJP and Modi"

:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Intelligence is not andhbhakts' forte!
 
I don't know how come andhbhakts sleep at night knowing too well how much feku is screwing Indian army!
 
Don’t know what methodology you used… In India 90% media is against BJP and Modi, but even when they conducted opinion poll prior to voting, all clearly give BJP 350+.

In Maharashtra, u put one video, where one fellow sarcastically said Rahul Gandhi and all are exploded laughing… u taken that seriously? On that basis u r giving India alliance lead?… ur survey looks similar to the survey conducted by ABP Majha…. IMO u and ABP majha both haven’t considered the strength of Ajit Pawar’s rashtravadi and Eknath Shinde’s shivsena ….But my prediction is 42+ in Maharashtra for BJP+
Please wait for results day before you start shedding tears :dhoni
 
The latest terror attack is either a Pulwama that was foiled or a small attempt to distract from Revanna
Knowing feku all too well, no amount of skullduggery is beyond him. This traitor won't think twice to sacrifice even our soldiers for gaining some votes.
 
Fake videos of Modi aides trigger political showdown in India election

Manipulated videos are taking centre stage as campaigning heats up in India's election, with fake clips involving two top aides of Prime Minister Narendra Modi triggering police investigations and the arrest of some workers of his rival Congress party.

In what has been dubbed as India's first AI election, Modi said last week fake voices were being used to purportedly show leaders making "statements that we have never even thought of", calling it a conspiracy "to create tension in society."

Indian police -- already investigating the spread of fake videos showing Bollywood actors criticizing Modi -- are now investigating a doctored online clip that showed federal home minister Amit Shah saying the ruling Bharatiya Janata Party will stop certain social guarantees for minorities, a subject sensitive for millions of voters.

Shah retorted on X, posting his "original" and the edited "fake" speech and alleging -- without providing any evidence -- that the main opposition Congress was behind the video it created to mislead the public.

The minister said "directions have been issued to the police to address this issue."

Indian police arrested at least nine people, including six members of Congress' social media teams, in the states of Assam, Gujarat, Telangana and New Delhi last week for circulating the fake video, according to police statements.

Five of the Congress workers were released on bail, but the most high-profile arrest made by the cyber crime unit of New Delhi police came on Friday, when they detained a Congress national social media coordinator, Arun Reddy, for sharing the video.

New Delhi is one region where Shah's ministry directly controls police.

Reddy has been sent into three-day custody.

The arrest has sparked protests from Congress workers with many posting on X using the #ReleaseArunReddy tag. Congress lawmaker Manickam Tagore said the arrest was an example of "authoritarian misuse of power by the regime."

Congress' head of social media, Supriya Shrinate, did not respond to messages and an email seeking comment.

Misinformation

India's election from April 19 to June 1 will be the world's largest democratic event.

With nearly a billion voters and more than 800 million internet users, tackling the spread of misinformation is a high stakes job.

It involves round-the-clock monitoring by police and election officials who often issue take down orders to Facebook and X as investigations start.

In India's most populous state of Uttar Pradesh, more than 500 people keep tabs on online content, flagging controversial posts and coordinating with social media companies for their removal when needed, police chief Prashant Kumar told Reuters on Saturday.

Another fake video that sparked a storm last week showed Yogi Adityanath, the state's chief minister, criticizing Modi for not doing enough for families of those who died in a 2019 militant attack.

Though fact checkers said the video was created using different parts of an original clip, state police called it an "AI generated, deepfake".

Using internet address tracking, state police arrested a man named Shyam Gupta on May 2 who had shared the fake video post on X a day earlier, receiving over 3,000 views and 11 likes.

The police have accused Gupta of forgery and promoting enmity under Indian law provisions that can carry a jail term of up to seven years if convicted. Reuters could not reach him as he is currently serving a 14-day custody period.

"This person is not a tech guy. Had he been tech savvy, arresting him quickly would not have been possible," said police officer Kumar.

SOURCE: REUTERS
 
“Chunavi Hindu” hits Indian election market, Indian voters should be beware!!!
dangerous colour changing RaGa, after filing nomination today went to Ayodhya! People welcome him with Jai Sree Raam and Modi Modi chants
 
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LS polls: Rift among INDIA bloc triggers three-cornered contests in Bengal​


As the final five phases of polls draw closer, rift among INDIA bloc partners, Congress-Left combine and the TMC, who are fighting separately has intensified, triggering a fierce contest across half of the remaining 36 constituencies in West Bengal driven by local issues such as Sandeshkhali and the SSC scam.

TMC's decision to contest independently in the state, rather than as part of the bloc, has led to a three-way contest, with the other contenders being the BJP and the Congress-Left alliance.

Nevertheless, both TMC and Congress have asserted that they are part of the INDIA bloc at the national level and are authentic representatives of the opposition front in Bengal.

Political analysts suggest that without a dominant national narrative like national security after the 2019 Pulwama attacks, local concerns such as corruption allegations, the cancellation of School Service Commission (SSC) jobs, incidents in Sandeshkhali and implementation of the Citizenship Amendment Act (CAA) are altering election dynamics.

Maidul Islam, a political scientist at the Centre for Studies in Social Sciences, remarked, "Till a few months ago, it seemed the elections in Bengal will be a bipolar contest between the TMC and BJP. But with issues like corruption and Sandeshkhali gaining prominence, the Left-Congress alliance is fast gaining traction in several seats and turning the polls into a three-cornered contest in at least 18-20 LS segments."

He said besides the two and three seats in Malda and Murshidabad districts, where TMC and Congress secured two each and the BJP one in 2019, there are 13 seats spread across South Bengal, where the TMC and the Left-Congress alliance are engaging in intense competition.

"It's not that the Left-Congress will win many seats, but in segments where their vote share is above 10 per cent, there is a likelihood that they might influence the outcome, to the disadvantage of either the TMC or the BJP, if they manage to secure two per cent more votes," Islam added.

According to sources in TMC and CPI(M), the electoral battleground extends beyond Malda and Murshidabad, encompassing Lok Sabha segments like Dum Dum, Srerampore, Arambagh, Hooghly, Howrah, Barrackpore, Bardhaman-Purba, Bardhaman-Durgapur, Bankura, Purulia, Tamluk, Kolkata North, and Jadavpur, all poised for a three-cornered fight.

Notably, eight of these seats were won by TMC and the remaining by BJP in the 2019 parliamentary polls.

"The shift in dynamics presents the Congress-Left alliance as a significant player, and its emergence complicates the electoral narrative, transcending the conventional TMC versus BJP dichotomy," political analyst Subhomoy Moitra said.

While the Left Front is contesting 30 seats, the Congress has fielded candidates in 12 out of 42 seats.

"We wanted an alliance with the Congress, but they were delaying the seat-sharing arrangements, so we decided to go alone. Now the Left-Congress alliance is helping the BJP by trying to eat into our votes," remarked TMC leader Santanu Sen.

According to TMC leaders, the breakup of INDIA alliance in Bengal has both electoral advantages and disadvantages.

"After the Left and Congress alliance fell apart in West Bengal in 2019, it had led to a four-cornered contest with BJP bagging the entire chunk of the anti-TMC votes in the state," they said.

In the 2019 Lok Sabha elections, the BJP bagged 18 seats and its vote share rose from 17 to 40 per cent.

Meanwhile, despite a 3 per cent rise in vote share, the TMC lost 12 seats, dropping from 34 to 22. The Left drew a blank with a vote share decline from 24 per cent to 6 per cent, and the Congress lost two seats, shrinking its vote share from 9.5 per cent to 5 per cent and bagging just two seats.

"Local issues such as corruption and SSC scam are helping the Left-Congress in the state as there is anger among a section of people against the TMC and also against the BJP over the perception of a tacit understanding," a TMC leader said.

Analysts observe that Mamata Banerjee's intensified criticism of Left and Congress, accusing them of aiding BJP, and the ensuing sharp responses from CPI(M) and Congress, alleging a secret pact between TMC and BJP, as indicative of the growing significance of Left-Congress alliance.

Data from various local elections and by-polls conducted after 2021 assembly elections indicate a shift in anti-TMC votes as there has been a resurgence of Left-Congress combine.

Incidentally, the BJP had witnessed a decline in its vote share as compared to the 2019 Lok Sabha and 38 per cent in 2021 assembly polls.
In 2023, violence scarred panchayat polls which covered nearly 70 per cent of the state's electorate, the TMC had bagged 51 per cent of votes whereas the BJP had bagged 22 per cent.

The Left-Congress-ISF alliance had, however, bagged 23 per cent votes. The ISF this time, however, has decided to contest alone in 17 seats.

Congress leader Suvankar Sarkar emphasized, "People are disenchanted with the TMC and the BJP, as they are both sides of the same coin. People are coming out in large numbers to support the Left-Congress candidates."

CPI(M) leader Sujan Chakraborty expressed confidence in the Left-Congress alliance's potential to deliver surprising results in the elections, claiming initial success in breaking bipolar politics in Bengal.

BJP state president Sukanta Majumdar downplayed the significance of the rift in opposition alliance and the three-cornered fight in various seats.

"People know that BJP is only fighting TMC's misrule in Bengal. Those who want to vote against TMC, will vote for us only just like in the 2019 and 2021 polls," he said.

Political scientist Biswanath Chakraborty suggested that TMC stands to gain the most from the three-cornered contest.
In minority pockets, the Left-Congress alliance could dent TMC's vote base, potentially aiding BJP's prospects, he noted.

 
lol at clueless sanghis and their equally clueless bhakts. Don't even know what and why they are protesting against.
 
Good to see a sold out news channel like Aaj Tak exposing these gullible students and their aakas though.
 
The tragedy of the inequality in our country is such that, these so-called educated buffoons will land a job somewhere, make some money and be contemptuous of some uneducated villager who most likely has a bigger brain than these idiots. Well, the villager doesn't need much in this case hahaha.

Videos like these make you realize why a buddhu like Modi appeals to so many clowns in India, abroad, and especially on online forums :dhoni
 
vile oaf said couple o days back if you have 2 Buffaloes , INC will take 1 away :rolleyes:
 
The tragedy of the inequality in our country is such that, these so-called educated buffoons will land a job somewhere, make some money and be contemptuous of some uneducated villager who most likely has a bigger brain than these idiots. Well, the villager doesn't need much in this case hahaha.

Videos like these make you realize why a buddhu like Modi appeals to so many clowns in India, abroad, and especially on online forums :dhoni
Indeed.

There is no other plausible reason why would anyone deify an illiterate like feku who doesn't have an iota of knowledge of anything under the sun.
 

After Amitabh Bachchan, if someone has received so much love…’: Kangana Ranaut compares herself to Big B​

The whole country is surprised… whether I go to Rajasthan, West Bengal, Delhi or Manipur, it feels like there is so much love and respect. I can confidently say that after Amitabh Bachchan, if anyone gets such love and respect in the industry, it is me),” she said during the rally.

 
When has she ever been mentally stable? She has basically spent her whole life fighting with someone or the other.
Normally people from hills are peaceniks. But this creature has been pouring vitriol on everyone.
 
Normally people from hills are peaceniks. But this creature has been pouring vitriol on everyone.
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: Seriously, ever since she made a name for herself, she has fought and quarrelled with so many people, it tough to even count. So much that her Twitter account was suspended.
 
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: Seriously, ever since she made a name for herself, she has fought and quarrelled with so many people, it tough to even count. So much that her Twitter account was suspended.
I'd seriously advise people of Mandi to stay from this mad woman. They won't be doing themselves any good if they pick her to represent themselves.

In any case, except for very few (like Sunil Dutt) people from showbiz have proved to be big failures in politics.
 
I'd seriously advise people of Mandi to stay from this mad woman. They won't be doing themselves any good if they pick her to represent themselves.

In any case, except for very few (like Sunil Dutt) people from showbiz have proved to be big failures in politics.
Hmm, so true! Or am I missing someone? I can't recall.
 
Kangana suffering from 'mental ailment': Congres leader Rakesh Kumar Singh

Criticising actor and BJP's Mandi candidate Kangana Ranaut for making "personal" attacks, Congress leader Rakesh Kumar Singh on Monday said a normal person cannot make such "baseless" statements.

"Kangana is suffering from mental ailment and making baseless statements," Singh, who is the Congress observer for Mandi and Jogindernagar assembly segments, told reporters here.

He went on to say that BJP national president J P Nadda should "get her checked in the psychiatry department".

 
Will this have an impact?
Narendra Modi ‘knew of rape claims against ally Prajwal Revanna and did nothing. If this is true, its appalling and shocking.
 
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India BJP's election videos targeting Muslims, opposition spark outrage​


Animated videos shared by Prime Minister Narendra Modi's party targeting opposition Congress and the Muslim community have evoked complaints and outrage, as the political climate in India heats up midway through its six-week long election.

The videos, shared by the ruling Bharatiya Janata Party on social media platforms Instagram and X over the last ten days, depict the Congress giving disproportionate benefits to India's minority Muslim community, at the cost of certain disadvantaged tribal and Hindu caste groups.

The Congress, in a complaint to the poll watchdog Election Commission, said on Sunday that the video has been shared "clearly with an intention to wantonly provocate rioting and promote enmity between different religions".

A set of guidelines mutually adopted by political parties for how they should conduct themselves during the election period prohibit them from creating "mutual hatred" between caste, religious or linguistic groups.

Manipulated videos on social media have also become a contentious issue in this election.

Modi, the face of the Hindu-nationalist BJP, seeking a rare third consecutive term, had focused his campaign largely on his government's performance on economic growth and welfare benefits.

But he changed tack after the first phase of voting on April 19 and his campaign speeches have since become more polarising on religious lines, accusing Congress of planning to redistribute the wealth of the majority Hindus among minority Muslims, who he called "infiltrators" who have "more children".

The videos shared by the BJP over the last ten days, one of which has since been taken down, illustrated the same message.
A 17-second video shared by a state unit of BJP on May 4, with over 8.5 million views, shows a character resembling Congress leader Rahul Gandhi feeding "funds" to a bird in a skullcap, which eventually pushes out from their common nest three other birds representing other disadvantaged groups.

The Congress has filed a police complaint against BJP leaders for the video, BJP's head of information and technology Amit Malviya said on X.

"The Congress should infact thank the BJP for taking their manifesto to the people in a manner that even they couldn’t," he wrote.

The video has elicited outrage. Nitasha Kaul, a politics professor at London's Westminster University said on X that the video was a "straightforward 1930s Germany style cartoon".

In its manifesto for the elections, the Congress has promised to tackle India's economic inequality by conducting a socio-economic caste census and extending affirmative action. It said it will ensure that minorities receive "their fair share" of education, economic and healthcare opportunities.

An Election Commission spokesperson, the BJP's Malviya and Congress spokespersons did not respond to requests seeking comment.

 
Modi is proper snake oil salesman. The guy should run on his record rather than create strife based on religious hatred.
 
Will this have an impact?
Narendra Modi ‘knew of rape claims against ally Prajwal Revanna and did nothing. If this is true, its appalling and shocking.
Nothing vile about feku should surprise anyone.
 

India BJP's election videos targeting Muslims, opposition spark outrage​


Animated videos shared by Prime Minister Narendra Modi's party targeting opposition Congress and the Muslim community have evoked complaints and outrage, as the political climate in India heats up midway through its six-week long election.

The videos, shared by the ruling Bharatiya Janata Party on social media platforms Instagram and X over the last ten days, depict the Congress giving disproportionate benefits to India's minority Muslim community, at the cost of certain disadvantaged tribal and Hindu caste groups.

The Congress, in a complaint to the poll watchdog Election Commission, said on Sunday that the video has been shared "clearly with an intention to wantonly provocate rioting and promote enmity between different religions".

A set of guidelines mutually adopted by political parties for how they should conduct themselves during the election period prohibit them from creating "mutual hatred" between caste, religious or linguistic groups.

Manipulated videos on social media have also become a contentious issue in this election.

Modi, the face of the Hindu-nationalist BJP, seeking a rare third consecutive term, had focused his campaign largely on his government's performance on economic growth and welfare benefits.

But he changed tack after the first phase of voting on April 19 and his campaign speeches have since become more polarising on religious lines, accusing Congress of planning to redistribute the wealth of the majority Hindus among minority Muslims, who he called "infiltrators" who have "more children".

The videos shared by the BJP over the last ten days, one of which has since been taken down, illustrated the same message.
A 17-second video shared by a state unit of BJP on May 4, with over 8.5 million views, shows a character resembling Congress leader Rahul Gandhi feeding "funds" to a bird in a skullcap, which eventually pushes out from their common nest three other birds representing other disadvantaged groups.

The Congress has filed a police complaint against BJP leaders for the video, BJP's head of information and technology Amit Malviya said on X.

"The Congress should infact thank the BJP for taking their manifesto to the people in a manner that even they couldn’t," he wrote.

The video has elicited outrage. Nitasha Kaul, a politics professor at London's Westminster University said on X that the video was a "straightforward 1930s Germany style cartoon".

In its manifesto for the elections, the Congress has promised to tackle India's economic inequality by conducting a socio-economic caste census and extending affirmative action. It said it will ensure that minorities receive "their fair share" of education, economic and healthcare opportunities.

An Election Commission spokesperson, the BJP's Malviya and Congress spokespersons did not respond to requests seeking comment.

Nothing will happen, ECI is a total stooge of feku.

How low the EC has fallen since the days of T N Seshan & J M Lyngdoh!
 

After Amitabh Bachchan, if someone has received so much love…’: Kangana Ranaut compares herself to Big B​

The whole country is surprised… whether I go to Rajasthan, West Bengal, Delhi or Manipur, it feels like there is so much love and respect. I can confidently say that after Amitabh Bachchan, if anyone gets such love and respect in the industry, it is me),” she said during the rally.

Hrithik Roshan would disagree
 
sanghis are not fighting from either of 3 seats in Kashmir. Wonder why did they get scared of contesting elections from Kashmir?

We were being told that abrogation of 370 was be all and end all. What happened then?
 
Atal Bihari Vajpayee (6 times), the late Sushma Swaraj (3 times), Rajnath Singh (twice) have changed their regular LS seats. But Rahul is a bhagoda.
 
lol at clueless sanghis and their equally clueless bhakts. Don't even know what and why they are protesting against.
A lot of people who participated in the anti-CAA marches didn't know what they were protesting against either. Many Congress supporters still believe that the CAA is directed against Indian muslims, when it is nothing of the sort.
There are cleuless fools and their equally clueless followers on all sides of the political spectrum.
 
A lot of people who participated in the anti-CAA marches didn't know what they were protesting against either. Many Congress supporters still believe that the CAA is directed against Indian muslims, when it is nothing of the sort.
There are cleuless fools and their equally clueless followers on all sides of the political spectrum.
Supporters of BJP leader Navneet Rana understand precisely what they are protesting for or supporting. Her recent comments at political rallies have exacerbated the religious divide in an already fractured India. She declared that individuals unwilling to say 'Jay Shri Ram' should relocate to Pakistan, asserting that in Hindustan, one must chant the 'Jay Shri Ram' slogan if they wish to reside there.

You are absolutely correct about clueless followers, but dividing the population based on religious differences is perhaps the most dangerous precedent being set up by Indian politicians.

Expected such a popular narrative from an unknown political party that cannot attain respectable power, but it is concerning when it comes from a party that has been ruling for such a long time. This should worry all Indians.
 
A lot of people who participated in the anti-CAA marches didn't know what they were protesting against either. Many Congress supporters still believe that the CAA is directed against Indian muslims, when it is nothing of the sort.
There are cleuless fools and their equally clueless followers on all sides of the political spectrum.
Considering what opposition is against, they are not entirely wrong in disbelieving whatever feku and motabhai say about Muslims and Congress. Don't go far, just look at what bigot and deputy bigot have to say about Muslims and Congress during last month or so.
 
Supporters of BJP leader Navneet Rana understand precisely what they are protesting for or supporting. Her recent comments at political rallies have exacerbated the religious divide in an already fractured India. She declared that individuals unwilling to say 'Jay Shri Ram' should relocate to Pakistan, asserting that in Hindustan, one must chant the 'Jay Shri Ram' slogan if they wish to reside there.
There you go. Most of sanghis, including bigot have made a career out of crucifying those who don't go with what they preach.
 
I always wonder why can't feku and his chums ever talk about their governance record of a decade and instead talk about Muslims, Pakistan and Congress.
 
For uninitiated, this guy switched over to Congress last year before assembly elections where he was given ticket to contest elections which he promptly lost. After elections he was made MLC (a MLC doesn't need to go electorate to get elected) by Congress.

Within 6 months though, Shettar shifted his loyalties to sanghis again and is now fighting LS election on their ticket.
 
No idea honestly.
If he loses this election too, his humiliation will be complete after having lost both elections (assembly & LS) he contested within an year.

However, it won't be easy for him to be defeated as he is a very old hand.
 
If he loses this election too, his humiliation will be complete after having lost both elections (assembly & LS) he contested within an year.

However, it won't be easy for him to be defeated as he is a very old hand.
Yeah but to his credit he's always maintained that he was treated respectfully in the Congress and his return has more to to do with removal of this guy called Santhosh and Yeddy's son taking over. At least he didn't claim he wanted to visit Ram Mandir and was locked up in a room once hahaha
 
Lok Sabha: Indians vote in scorching heat as temperature crosses 40C

When Karan Shah, 32, goes to vote in the western state of Gujarat, he and his 59-year-old mother will be armed with water bottles and fruit to beat the heat. To escape long queues, they plan to reach the polling station early in the morning.

Mr Shah and his mother are among millions of Indians who will cast their ballots in the third phase of the general election on Tuesday, when 94 constituencies across 12 states go to the polls.

India's general election is usually held every five years in April and May, and voters and polling officials are used to dealing with the harsh summer heat. But this year, India - along with other parts of Asia - is experiencing one of its hottest summers on record, in line with recent years. Last month, at least nine people died due to heat-related issues as searing temperatures hit the country.

In April, federal minister Nitin Gadkari fainted while addressing a campaign rally in the western state of Maharashtra, later explaining that the crowded venue and high temperature had made him feel uneasy. Days before that, in the eastern city of Kolkata where temperatures soared above 43C, a television anchor passed out while presenting weather updates. She later said that the studio had become extremely hot as its cooling systems had failed.

And there is no respite in sight - India's weather department has predicted longer and more intense heatwaves in May.

Election authorities are taking steps to address this by supplying drinking water in polling booths and extending voting timings.

But some experts have speculated that the extreme temperatures may be impacting voter turnout.

In an interview last week with India Today news channel, N Gopalaswami, a former chief election commissioner, said that the heat "may have had a role" to play in lower voter numbers this year. Compared with the 2019 election, the first two phases of polling held on 19 April and 26 April saw at least a 3% dip each in voter turnout.

Mr Gopalaswami also suggested that a tweak to polling schedules in the long term - holding elections between the cooler months of February and March - might encourage more people to vote.

Political parties, too, have been tweaking their campaign schedules this year due to the heat. Last week, Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) lawmaker Rajeshwar Singh told local media that party workers were visiting voters' homes only in the mornings and evenings, while afternoon meetings were being held indoors.

Dr Amit P Gawnde, a pulmonologist, says that spending long hours in the heat can lead to an electrolyte imbalance, which in turn can cause fatigue, dizziness and blackouts.

"Patients with comorbidities, like heart ailments or high blood pressure, face a higher risk of experiencing heat-related problems," he says.

Voters say they are apprehensive about the heat but will take precautions.

Sukhada Khandge, who lives in Pune district in Maharashtra state, says that she will cover her face and body when she steps out to vote on Tuesday.

Pune is one of the hottest regions in Maharashtra, which will vote in two more phases on 13 and 20 May. For the past week, Pune has been experiencing temperatures between 39C and 42C and weather officials say this is likely to continue in the coming days.

Ms Khandge says she will vote early in the morning to avoid crowds and the heat.

In the western state of Gujarat - where polling will be held in 26 constituencies on Tuesday - Dipakumar Hasmukhbhai Patel says he aims to travel to his polling booth in Surat city on his motorbike in the morning.

"Towards the afternoon, it gets so hot that you have to travel by car," he says, adding that he is aware that one can get a heatstroke or suffer from dehydration if not careful.

Deepika Jigar Tumdawala, 31, who is also from Surat, says that she finds voting during this time of the year uncomfortable, especially since she lives in an industrial area and the fumes from factories add to the heat.

"But voting is my democratic right so I'll brave the heat and go and vote," she adds.

Apprehension about the heat are likely to persist among voters in the coming weeks as well.

In the southern state of Telangana, which is set to vote on 13 May in the fourth phase, the scorching heat has already become a topic of conversation.

Pratibha, 40, who uses only one name, told BBC Telugu that she suffered a heatstroke just days ago and was experiencing severe headaches.

"It is difficult to come out to vote in these temperatures. It is going to be challenging to take elderly people to the polling stations. Polling should start earlier for them," she said, adding that she plans to take her 70-year-old mother to vote early in the morning.

For the first time this year, the Election Commission - which oversees elections in the country - has allowed people older than 85 years and those with disabilities to vote from their homes. The commission also issued guidelines in March to minimise the impact of heat on the elections.

It instructed electoral officers to make drinking water and oral hydration salts available at polling stations, keep medical kits handy and have sufficient polling staff to prevent delays.

Electoral officials in Telangana have also extended voting times by an hour in the evening in certain areas to make it more comfortable for people to cast their ballots.

Chintala Ramesh, 46, who will vote in the state, says that it has become so hot that fans are no longer effective. He wants high-capacity coolers and stations dispensing cold water to be set up at polling booths.

But like Ms Tumdawala - and millions around the country - he says that the heat won't stop him from voting.

"We shouldn't let high temperatures stop us from exercising our right to vote," Mr Ramesh says. "It is our responsibility as citizens."

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Lol, at least give some plausible reason for jumping ship rather than these inane and laughable ones. Apparently, bhakts are quite happy to have her in sanghi fold.
 
Whatever is Congress' plight post these elections, these good for nothing 'spokespersons' should never ever be taken back.
 

Rs 34 crore seizure: ED arrests personal secretary of Jharkhand minister Alamgir Alam, his domestic help​


The Enforcement Directorate has arrested Jharkhand Congress Minister Alamgir Alam’s personal secretary (PS) Sanjiv Lal and the officer’s domestic help following raids conducted at various premises on Monday which led to the seizure of around Rs 34.50 crore in cash, sources in the agency confirmed.

“We arrested the PS Sanjiv Lal and his house help Jahangir Alam late on Monday night. We will be taking them on remand and enquiring about the source of funds. We have also seized certain incriminating documents such as a list of transfer posting requests and the ED’s letter last year to the chief secretary asking for action against Virendra Ram. We are analysing the documents, ” said a source with the central agency.

The searches are linked to a money laundering case against former chief engineer Virendra Kumar Ram of the state Rural Development Department. He was arrested by the ED last year.

Rural Development Minister Alamgir Alam distanced himself from the matter soon after and said that he did not have any information on the ED action. “I don’t know what is being said about it, but the PS (personal secretary) is a government officer and we keep such people who have experience. Sanjiv Lal has been a PS to ministers before,” he had said.

On Monday, Prime Minister Narendra Modi referred to the ED seizures during his election rally in Andhra Pradesh’s Vemagiri. “Why is it that those from whom mounds of cash are recovered are close to the Congress’s first family? Was the seized cash meant for supply somewhere? Is it that the Congress’s first family has created warehouses of black money? The country wants to know from Congress’s Shehzada,” he said, in an apparent jibe at Rahul Gandhi.

The Jharkhand Congress had earlier pointed out that Sanjiv Lal had also worked as the personal secretary of former BJP minister C P Singh. Lal has been Alam’s personal secretary since the latter became a Cabinet minister in 2019.

The party said the ED action was timed to happen right ahead of Rahul’s visit to the state on Tuesday for a poll rally.





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Another Scam by Congress but not a pip by the usual anti nationals here. Not a single video on this topic by those paid journalists like Dhruv Rathee, Sardesai, Akash Banerjee, Ravish Kumar etc.

All falling apart unfortunately for congress - Clown prince ran away from Amethi, corruption after corruption been caught, spokeperson's leaving the party one after another. their minister in Maharatsra saying Hemant Karkare was killed by RSS and not Ajmal Kasab, Pakistan ex minister constantly praising Rahul Gandhi etc etc.

Seeks of desperation and hence 24/7 validation by their anonymous troll supporters here.
 

Lok Sabha Elections: Lalu Prasad Yadav bats for Muslim reservation, hits out at BJP for its 'Jungle Raj' rhetoric​


Former Bihar Chief Minister and RJD president Lalu Prasad Yadav came out in support of the Muslim reservation and also launched an attack on the BJP-led government at the Centre.​


Amid the ongoing Lok Sabha elections, Rashtriya Janata Dal (RJD) chief Lalu Prasad Yadav has raked up the Muslim-reservation issue and accused the central government of attempting to undermine the Constitution and democracy. Speaking to reporters, Yadav voiced his support for Muslim reservation, affirming, "Muslims should receive reservation in full measure." "Reservation toh milna chahiye Musalmano ko, pura," he stated.


The RJD chief also claimed that voters are in his party's favour and that the BJP is fearful and trying to provoke people by suggesting the return of 'Jungle Raj'. "The voters are on our side...They are saying that there will be a 'Jungle Raj' because they are scared, they are trying to instigate people...They (BJP) want to finish the Constitution and democracy," he added.



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A chor is asking reservations for a community based on religion. Basically he is saying if a person is muslim he must get a head start in life and more privileges than other Indians. Laloo ji should also tell us while he is at it how else what else we should do or how else we should please muslim community.

First right of countries resources should go to muslims - Manmohan in 2008

Muslims must get reservations - Laloo in 2024

Anything else I am missing lads?


Then these people say BJP does communal politics and the never does appeasement for votes :facepalm: :ROFLMAO:
 
Will this have an impact?
Narendra Modi ‘knew of rape claims against ally Prajwal Revanna and did nothing. If this is true, its appalling and shocking.
It doesn't come under "Love Jihad" so Modi slept peacefully while allegedly being aware of his friend hurting women.
 

No educated person will vote for the BJP. What is the point of studying if we do not get jobs?’​


He uses the same metaphor for having voted for the Bharatiya Janata Party in the 2014 and 2019 Lok Sabha elections. “The difference is I still hope to get a government job, but I am sure a BJP government will not provide it for me,” Kumar told Scroll.

“Anyone who is educated will not vote for the BJP. What is the point of us studying if we do not get jobs?”

When Kumar moved to Patna in 2016 after completing his bachelor’s degree in commerce, he was hopeful of bagging a job in the next two to three years. His best bet was the 13,120 vacancies advertised by the Bihar Staff Selection Commission in 2014.

In 2017, Kumar cleared the preliminary test for the recruitment but his joy was short-lived.

The recruitment process was scrapped over allegations that the question paper for the test had been leaked. The recruitment examination was then delayed several times over due to legal proceedings related to the paper leak allegations, and the Covid-19 pandemic.

When the exams were finally held in 2020, Kumar managed to clear both the preliminary and mains exams. In 2022, the first round of counselling led to the appointment of the first set of successful candidates.

Kumar claimed that thousands of vacancies still remain vacant – but the government has not initiated other rounds of counselling, which could give candidates like him a chance.


In December 2022, BJP leader Vijay Sinha, who is currently the deputy chief minister of Bihar, had assured the job aspirants that he would look into the matter, Kumar said, but he failed to deliver on his promise.

“Many of us met Sinha and he even agreed that we had been wronged,” said Kumar. “But he was in the Opposition then. Now that he has become the deputy chief minister, we are not allowed anywhere close to his bungalow.”

He cited another example, of recruitment in the railways, to make his point. In 2019, the railways had announced 35,281 vacancies in non-technical posts for which over a crore candidates, including Kumar, applied.

The recruitment was delayed due to the pandemic, and when the results were announced in 2022, there were widespread protests – mainly in Bihar – as students alleged that the criteria for shortlisting candidates had been arbitrarily changed. The railways has denied any change in the criteria, but many like Kumar are not convinced.

“The government simply does not want to give jobs,” Kumar declared. “Railways had announced 35,000 jobs in 2019, gave no jobs since then and then announced only 5,600 vacancies in 2024. It seems they announced the vacancies only to get votes.”


“It is not just about not getting employment,” he said. “It is the everyday grind that is more frustrating. I am 31 now. I still have to ask my family for money. They ask me about getting a job and getting married. What should I tell them?”

At his home in Jhanjharpur, Kumar’s family consists of his parents in their 60s, his sister-in-law and a nephew. His elder brother works at a textile mill in Mumbai and earns Rs 15,000 a month. Besides the Rs 7,000 that his brother sends home every month, the only source of income is earnings from farming.​

 
These are the kind of issues which should be the core basis of electoral campaigns not what feku and his chums are tomtoming for last month or so.
 
Whilst I question this guy for solely concentrating to get a government job, the employment situation is indeed dire, very dire in India. Even private sector isn't able to provide the kind of jobs it should provide.

It'll be self goal by those who are planning to vote for feku and his chums on the basis of Hindu-Muslim and Pakistan especially the unemployed youth.
 
Hindu nationalist Prime Minister Narendra Modi cast his ballot Tuesday in India’s ongoing general election after giving several inflammatory campaign speeches accused of targeting minority Muslims.

Turnout so far has dropped significantly compared with the last national poll in 2019, with analysts blaming widespread expectations that Modi will easily win a third term and hotter-than-average temperatures heading into the summer.

Modi walked out of a polling booth early morning in the city of Ahmedabad while holding up a finger marked with indelible ink, flanked by security personnel and cheered by supporters.

“In the grand ritual of democracy, everyone contributing their share deserves congratulations,” Modi told reporters.

“Once again, I tell Indians… to come in huge numbers to vote and celebrate the festival of democracy.”

The Indian premier’s ruling Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) is expected to win the election convincingly, but since the vote began on April 19, Modi has stepped up his rhetoric on India’s main religious divide in a bid to rally voters.

He has used public speeches to refer to Muslims as “infiltrators” and “those who have more children”, prompting condemnation from opposition politicians, who have complained to election authorities.

Modi has also accused Congress — the main party in the disparate opposition alliance competing against him — of planning to reallocate the nation’s wealth to Muslim households.

“This is the first time in a long time that he is so direct,” said Hartosh Singh Bal, executive editor at news magazine The Caravan.

“I haven’t seen him be this directly bigoted, usually he alludes to bigotry,” he added.

“The comments on wealth redistribution are targeting something from the Congress manifesto that just does not exist and that is frankly quite unfortunate.”

‘Anyone with a beard’
Modi remains widely popular a decade after coming to power, in large part due to his government’s positioning the nation’s majority faith at the centre of its politics, despite India’s officially secular constitution.

In January, the prime minister presided over the inauguration of a grand temple to the deity Ram, built on the site of a centuries-old mosque razed by Hindu zealots decades earlier.

Construction of the temple fulfilled a long-standing demand of Hindu activists and was widely celebrated across India, with extensive television coverage and street parties.

Modi’s brand of Hindu-nationalist politics has made India’s 220-million-plus Muslim population increasingly anxious about their future in the country.

“The government is blatantly doing sectarian politics,” Munna Usman, a Muslim travel agency owner in the city of Agra, told AFP.

Usman, 48, said the result was that every Hindu in India was now “suspicious of anyone with a beard”.

The election commission has not sanctioned Modi for his remarks despite its code of conduct prohibiting campaigning on “communal feelings” such as religion.

Hot weather
India’s election is conducted in seven phases over six weeks to ease the immense logistical burden of staging the democratic exercise in the world’s most populous country.

Much of southern Asia was hit by a heatwave last week that saw several constituencies vote in searing temperatures.

In the city of Mathura, not far from the Taj Mahal, temperatures crossed 41 degrees Celsius on polling day, and election commission figures showed turnout dropping nearly nine points to 52 percent from five years earlier.

A turnout data analysis published by The Hindu newspaper concluded it was too early to determine whether hot weather was impacting voter participation.

But India’s weather bureau has forecast more hot spells to come in May and the election commission formed a taskforce last month to review the impact of heat and humidity before each round of voting.

Source: Dawn News
 
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