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He's superior to Babar in terms of rankings in t20. And he outperformed babar during last year's t20 World Cup. Ik the upcoming Asia cup is ODI, but I feel Rizwan will replicate his t20 performance into odi due to Sri lanka being notorious for being spin friendly wickets, and rizwan is best player of spin in Pakistan, possibly the world atm.
 
Not even close.

He is not even the best in Pakistan let alone in the world. Babar and Saad Shakeel are better than him.
 
Rizwan is a good batter and one who has improved through hard work rather than full on talent. Let's just appreciate having a solid keeper who is a good batsman than trying to make him out to be the next Gilchrist.
 
The OP goes too far as he is nowhere near the worlds best batter.

However Mohammad Rizwan is clearly the greatest t20 opener in the history of Pakistan cricket. This is frankly an unbelieveable achievement given he is primarily a wicket keeper.

As someone above said, he is a great example of what hard work can get you in your field. It is no wonder he has left his competition in the dust.
 
Best batsmen? Close but no

Best keeper batsmen? Absolutely without a doubt and I’d go as far to say best keeper produced by Pakistan
 
how? He isn’t even the best keeper Batsman in the world
The icc t20 rankings and his Average disagree with you tbf. He not as aggressive as buttler but he's defo more consistent in scoring runs and being a match winner.
 
He is definitely best batter in the world!
In the same way that I am hotter than Chris Hemsworth.
What?

If you actually look at things seriously and follow the stats then you will see that Rizwan is someone who always come in during high pressure moments and is able to alleviate that pressure to an extent that wins use matches.

It is that clouch ability that makes him ONE of the best however it is improvement in consistency which he should slightly work on
 
What?

If you actually look at things seriously and follow the stats then you will see that Rizwan is someone who always come in during high pressure moments and is able to alleviate that pressure to an extent that wins use matches.

It is that clouch ability that makes him ONE of the best however it is improvement in consistency which he should slightly work on
First of all, he is an opener. He doesn't "come in" like you said. You want to talk about high pressure moments and alleviating that pressure. It is his fault that we end up in such situations in the first place. Him and Babar play ridiculously slow for openers in T20 and that often shoots us in the foot. Eventually, one or two of them will get out and put immense pressure on our middle and lower order to bat well. And considering those areas are our specific weaknesses, the middle and lower order very rarely deliver.
 
First of all, he is an opener. He doesn't "come in" like you said. You want to talk about high pressure moments and alleviating that pressure. It is his fault that we end up in such situations in the first place. Him and Babar play ridiculously slow for openers in T20 and that often shoots us in the foot. Eventually, one or two of them will get out and put immense pressure on our middle and lower order to bat well. And considering those areas are our specific weaknesses, the middle and lower order very rarely deliver.
Rizwan used to ‘come in’ on those situations in the past and would bottle them regularly. He was given a reprieve by Misbah ul Haq who was absolutely desperate to eliminate Sarfaraz

Rizwan is the worst story in Pakistan cricket history, I am one of Pakistan’s most loyal fans in the world. But this guy and the politics behind him make me hate my own team.
 
First of all, he is an opener. He doesn't "come in" like you said. You want to talk about high pressure moments and alleviating that pressure. It is his fault that we end up in such situations in the first place. Him and Babar play ridiculously slow for openers in T20 and that often shoots us in the foot. Eventually, one or two of them will get out and put immense pressure on our middle and lower order to bat well. And considering those areas are our specific weaknesses, the middle and lower order very rarely deliver.
Pakistan have managed to chase down 200+ scores thanks to rizwan multiple times. Lol, and we got into t20 World Cup final thanks to him smacking New Zealand. Not everyone can go in guns Blazing each match and expect to perform consistently. Even Kholi has been unable to do that. Kholi cost India the game against England because his 50 of 42 balls ended up giving India a score of only 170, on a batting pitch against England. Kholi's slow nature also ended up giving pak the win and breaking the moca moca curse.

No player can perform in every single match, however its thanks to rizwan Pakistan has been able to chase down 200 scores, as of late.
 
Rizwan used to ‘come in’ on those situations in the past and would bottle them regularly. He was given a reprieve by Misbah ul Haq who was absolutely desperate to eliminate Sarfaraz

Rizwan is the worst story in Pakistan cricket history, I am one of Pakistan’s most loyal fans in the world. But this guy and the politics behind him make me hate my own team.
Rizwan is a natural t20 Opener. He use to open in t20 in domestic way before misbah promoted him. He wasn't use to playing in the lower order so misbah decided to play him in his natural position, and since his promotion he's become the 2nd best t20 player in the world.
 
how? He isn’t even the best keeper Batsman in the world
Rizwan is arguably the best keeper in the world. The combination of his reliable consistent batting with his highly skilled keeping makes him highly desirable in the world. I have no doubt he is currently the best allrounder in T20s.
 
Rizwan is arguably the best keeper in the world. The combination of his reliable consistent batting with his highly skilled keeping makes him highly desirable in the world. I have no doubt he is currently the best allrounder in T20s.
Arguably?

He was available for the Hundred draft. He wasn’t picked. If he was arguably the best keeper+Bat in the world, surely he would be picked? Why wasn’t he?

Heinrich Klaasen and Adam Rosington for sure are better than him. That’s two guys who don’t keep+bat for their countries
 
Kamran akmal, a guy who averages Below 30 vs Rizwan, a guy averaging close to 50? Lol
I’ve argued this to death and won.

Win a T20 World Cup for your country Rizwan

And then claim you are better than Kamran
 
I’ve argued this to death and won.

Win a T20 World Cup for your country Rizwan

And then claim you are better than Kamran
Kamran literally performed in one match after flopping hard in every other match whereas rizwan gives consistent performances. Also rizwan will win Pakistan 2023 World Cup, Mark my words. Highlight this comment for when rizwan scores the 100 and plays the winning shot this coming world cup.
 
Arguably?

He was available for the Hundred draft. He wasn’t picked. If he was arguably the best keeper+Bat in the world, surely he would be picked? Why wasn’t he?

Heinrich Klaasen and Adam Rosington for sure are better than him. That’s two guys who don’t keep+bat for their countries
He wasn't picked in the hundred because all teams had local wicketkeepers. As I said Rizwan is a wicketkeeping allrounder.
 
He wasn't picked in the hundred because all teams had local wicketkeepers. As I said Rizwan is a wicketkeeping allrounder.
How is klaasen a local wicket keeper?

So ‘arguably’ the best keeper+bat in the world can’t get into a side because of local wicket keepers?
 
Kamran literally performed in one match after flopping hard in every other match whereas rizwan gives consistent performances. Also rizwan will win Pakistan 2023 World Cup, Mark my words. Highlight this comment for when rizwan scores the 100 and plays the winning shot this coming world cup.
Either pakistan will be out or Rizwan will be dropped before Pakistan reach a final
 
Either pakistan will be out or Rizwan will be dropped before Pakistan reach a final
Rizwan will be a threat this world cup, and pakistan is gonna win this world cup, we literally have the strongest team. Our top order are all ranked in the top 5 of the world, we have rizwan the 2nd best t20 batsmen and we have saud shakeel, a dude with an average over 80 in test. And we have the worlds best bowling attack. We won't lose.
 
Rizwan will be a threat this world cup, and pakistan is gonna win this world cup, we literally have the strongest team. Our top order are all ranked in the top 5 of the world, we have rizwan the 2nd best t20 batsmen and we have saud shakeel, a dude with an average over 80 in test. And we have the worlds best bowling attack. We won't lose.
Brother

Don’t try to educate me on what Pakistan has or doesn’t have, and how they compare to what other nations have.

I watch cricket all around the world. I know this game. Pakistan doesn’t literally have the strongest team. This wouldn’t even be the case if this World Cup was to be played on PS5.

Be humble and control your expectations. Cricket is a bewafa sport
 
Brother

Don’t try to educate me on what Pakistan has or doesn’t have, and how they compare to what other nations have.

I watch cricket all around the world. I know this game. Pakistan doesn’t literally have the strongest team. This wouldn’t even be the case if this World Cup was to be played on PS5.

Be humble and control your expectations. Cricket is a bewafa sport
Okay, Fair enough.
 
Over the years, Rizwan has worked on his skills and fitness, resulting in an improved overall game. He has also focused on his batting technique to become a more reliable run-scorer for Pakistan.
 
I have seen both, no need to assume what and what I haven't seen

Rizwan easily surpasses both

Moin Khan and Rashid Latif used to face elite bowlers. Also, batters didn't have as many advantages as now back then.

Compared to 90's bowlers, modern day bowlers are pretty lallu. Rizwan doesn't face many tough bowlers.

I don't think Rizwan is better than Moin.
 
He's superior to Babar in terms of rankings in t20. And he outperformed babar during last year's t20 World Cup. Ik the upcoming Asia cup is ODI, but I feel Rizwan will replicate his t20 performance into odi due to Sri lanka being notorious for being spin friendly wickets, and rizwan is best player of spin in Pakistan, possibly the world atm.
Agha is way better than Rizwan at playing spin.
 
Moin Khan and Rashid Latif used to face elite bowlers. Also, batters didn't have as many advantages as now back then.

Compared to 90's bowlers, modern day bowlers are pretty lallu. Rizwan doesn't face many tough bowlers.

I don't think Rizwan is better than Moin.
Rizwan on his best day won't be able to lace Moin's boots. Moin was a freak with bat specially during 99-00. What Moin did with bat at 99 wc is something even beyond the wildest dreams of Rizwan. Rashid was less consistent but he was a master behind the wickets. The biggest difference between those two & Riz is they were elite ball strikers who could win /finish games whereas Riz is a very good accumulator. It's not a coincidence that every ICC tournaments Moin took part Pak made to semifinals at least. He was a huge impact player. Rizwan has great stats but very little impact so far.
 
Mohammad Rizwan lbw to Mujeeb 21(22) in 1st ODI

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Was a harsh decision but the guy is clueless against proper bowling
 
Dont know about best, but the guys game sense is very good.

Few years back when Rizwan was near the edge of getting selected for the Pakistan team, the Peshawar Panthers on Faysel Bank t20 was on the rise. PTI had won from KPK, and anything good that happened in KPK and Peshawar was boosted alot. Similarly, when Peshawar region and Peshawar panthers were doing well in cricket, alot of the guys got the attention of the people. Few players that were being noticed were Rizwan, Rifatullah, Israrullah, Sahibzada Farhan, Imran Khan (the medium pacer) and Iftikhar Ahmad.

There was an innings that was played in the final where Peshawar was struggling abit and Riffatullah and Rizwan were batting together. Rifatullah, uptil that point, had years of domestic experience. During that match, he tried to play some wild shots and couldn't connect ( i think they were chasing), and than Rizwan went up to him and said that he needs to relax abit and take the match till the end. Thus, they started to rotate the strike and ended up chasing a high total.

Rafatullah even praised Rizwan during the post match conference. His game sense was always very good.


He is the best ever wicket keeper batsman produced by Pakistan. THe likes of Moin, Rashid or even Wasim Bari are no where near this guy.
 
Moin Khan and Rashid Latif used to face elite bowlers. Also, batters didn't have as many advantages as now back then.

Compared to 90's bowlers, modern day bowlers are pretty lallu. Rizwan doesn't face many tough bowlers.

I don't think Rizwan is better than Moin.
Moin's FC and List A stats aren't far apart from his international stats so i'm not sure you have an argument for bowling standards. He would have faced plenty of lallu bowling at home but only averaged 30 against them.

Rizwan would smash Moin out of the park, but so would a lot of modern wicketkeepers given how expectations have changed since the 90's. Moin was great in his own right but the GOAT is definitely Rizwan and it's not actually even close.
 
Wow, the delusions keep coming.

Rizwan isn’t even a better batsman than Kamran Akmal and Sarfaraz. He’s a better keeper than both tbf
 
Moin's FC and List A stats aren't far apart from his international stats so i'm not sure you have an argument for bowling standards. He would have faced plenty of lallu bowling at home but only averaged 30 against them.

Rizwan would smash Moin out of the park, but so would a lot of modern wicketkeepers given how expectations have changed since the 90's. Moin was great in his own right but the GOAT is definitely Rizwan and it's not actually even close.

Stats then and stats now aren't same.

Modern day stats are heavily inflated.

There was no free hit then. Boundaries weren't short then. Bats were inferior then. There was no DRS then. I hope you get my point.
 
Wow, the delusions keep coming.

Rizwan isn’t even a better batsman than Kamran Akmal and Sarfaraz. He’s a better keeper than both tbf

I forgot about Kamran Akmal. I think Kamran was a better batter than Rizwan. Was a matchwinner like Afridi.
 
if kamran akmal was a better batsman than rizwan so his stats must have speaks for himself.
Kamran and Rizwan played in different era’s of white ball cricket. Still, Kamran has won a T20i World Cup and finished as a runner up of another.

He has also won the IPL. Kamran has achieved a lot as a T20i keeper+batsman for Pakistan

He also won a test series against England at home as our keeper. Rizwan lost 3-0 and was dropped.

Kamran also played a huge role in Pakistan winning a Test series v India. Rizwan will never ever play a Test, let alone win one against India.
 
Kamran and Rizwan played in different era’s of white ball cricket. Still, Kamran has won a T20i World Cup and finished as a runner up of another.

He has also won the IPL. Kamran has achieved a lot as a T20i keeper+batsman for Pakistan

He also won a test series against England at home as our keeper. Rizwan lost 3-0 and was dropped.

Kamran also played a huge role in Pakistan winning a Test series v India. Rizwan will never ever play a Test, let alone win one against India.
That's not fair considering pakistan isn't allowed to play IPL anymore and given the current state of things, hell will freeze over before pakistan plays India in tests again.

I agree with you on me overrating rizwan, but he's far superior to Kamran who's lost us matches as well. Your opinion to kamran is biased as you're highlight just a few specific moments.
 
That's not fair considering pakistan isn't allowed to play IPL anymore and given the current state of things, hell will freeze over before pakistan plays India in tests again.

I agree with you on me overrating rizwan, but he's far superior to Kamran who's lost us matches as well. Your opinion to kamran is biased as you're highlight just a few specific moments.
InshaAllah Pakistan will play IPL and Rizwan’s reality will be exposed to you as well.

My hunch…he will set a base price of $200k and will go unsold.

If he sets a base price of $20k, someone will pick him up for $50-100k as a bench strength keeper+batsman

Oh and I doubt he would be allowed to open.
 
InshaAllah Pakistan will play IPL and Rizwan’s reality will be exposed to you as well.

My hunch…he will set a base price of $200k and will go unsold.

If he sets a base price of $20k, someone will pick him up for $50-100k as a bench strength keeper+batsman

Oh and I doubt he would be allowed to open.
Rizwan is a great player but he suited to t20 batting because he's a striker. That's why I've been stressing that he should play at no 5 in odi, and allow saud to bat at no 4.
 
I forgot about Kamran Akmal. I think Kamran was a better batter than Rizwan. Was a matchwinner like Afridi.
Kamran had a wider array of strokes but typically wasted the Akmal talent genes through being an utter moron. Too many promising innings would be cut short by skying one into the air or down the throat of a waiting outfielder. His ODI average of 26 encapsulates a disappointing career.

When it comes to overall batsmanship Rizwan has a better temperament and cricketing brain. He is far more dependable and intelligent.

If we're talking who the better batsman is there remains no comparison. Kamran might play a flashier innings once in a while, but over a decent sample size Rizwan would score heaps more runs and leave him in the dust.
 
Kamran had a wider array of strokes but typically wasted the Akmal talent genes through being an utter moron. Too many promising innings would be cut short by skying one into the air or down the throat of a waiting outfielder. His ODI average of 26 encapsulates a disappointing career.

When it comes to overall batsmanship Rizwan has a better temperament and cricketing brain. He is far more dependable and intelligent.

If we're talking who the better batsman is there remains no comparison. Kamran might play a flashier innings once in a while, but over a decent sample size Rizwan would score heaps more runs and leave him in the dust.
On the other hand Kamran Akmal had a wide array of shots and Riz really is heavily dependent on that leg side hack of his.

Rizwan may not throw his wicket away but sometimes you actually want him to because he is killing momentum by being out there.

But Kamran was an utter moron in more ways than one - I do agree with you there.

However, let’s not think Rizwan is some kind of saviour.
 
On the other hand Kamran Akmal had a wide array of shots and Riz really is heavily dependent on that leg side hack of his.

Rizwan may not throw his wicket away but sometimes you actually want him to because he is killing momentum by being out there.

But Kamran was an utter moron in more ways than one - I do agree with you there.

However, let’s not think Rizwan is some kind of saviour.
Kamran was a great strokeplayer like his brother but in both cases their lack of intelligence hamstrung them completely. Neither Akmal was able to use their talent to overcome their lack of brains. This showed through their periodical selection and mediocre career returns. In the end the Akmal's were seen more in the media than on the pitch - a sad waste of their ability.

If Kamran was of at least average intelligence his talent would have meant he would be the best WK in Pakistan's history. But the fact is that he was a moron who lacked cricketing sense. Rizwan might be the less talented of the two but by being comparitively harder working and more intelligent he has outdone Kamran overall, and in my opinion by a significant margin.
 
Run out for 2 - big blow to Pakistan - poor from Riz and Imam.
 
Could have predicted a failure a mile away. Just let a proper batsman bat at 4
 
he should become the new Sangakarra become a full time number 4 in tests and ODIs Babar thinks he’s good enough who are we to say otherwise.
 
The guy has 2 hundreds in ODI, which he scored in 2019 against Australia whilst pakistan and Australia had rested their main players for the World Cup. What has he done to warrant the number 4 position 4 years on? Sarfaraz hasn’t been in his way in this format either since the World Cup
 
Rizwan has done wonders for being able to score the runs he has scored thus far in his career, making the most of his abilities, through sheer hard work and determination. However, Pakistan should not overestimate him here. He's not a proper enough batsman to be batting in the top 4 in ODIs, he did just fine vs NZ batting at 5. 4 should be given to Saud or Abdullah, or even Iftikhar for that matter.
 
Best keeper as I said before. Most batsmen would have crumbled under the pressure but he was able to withstand it and now is reaping the rewards
 
Was doing well but did he leave it for too late?

 
What? He is not even the best T20 bat.
Also he should be dropped from the ODI team.
Yet another slap delivered today by Rizwan.

Not the tightest slap he's had to deliver, but nonetheless a timely reminder of his ability for those who didn't understand that his dismissals in the first two games were unlucky.

The slaps will keep coming as will the runs he scores. Here's to many more years of Mohammad Rizwan.
 
Yet another slap delivered today by Rizwan.

Not the tightest slap he's had to deliver, but nonetheless a timely reminder of his ability for those who didn't understand that his dismissals in the first two games were unlucky.

The slaps will keep coming as will the runs he scores. Here's to many more years of Mohammad Rizwan.
WOW, he scores 1 fifty in 3 games vs Afghanistan and that is worth a slap, such high standards. His batting until he reached 50 was pathetic. Even dead batting deliveries. Such players wont win you trophies, prime example being his batting in crunch games in his so called strongest format T20 (WC). He had no business playing yesterday, Haris should have played. In games against minnows/dead rubbers you give youngsters a chance, not selfish players to boost their ego's.
 
Rizwan is a key no 5, but he's not programmed to stay for more then 20 overs.

Should come at no 5 ideally by over 30 and spend the next 20 overs making his match wining 70's
 
Sometimes, tough times come for good players, but that doesn't mean they are bad players. It depends on how quickly they can emerge from that difficult period. I hope that Rizwan will perform well in the Asia Cup.
 
WOW, he scores 1 fifty in 3 games vs Afghanistan and that is worth a slap, such high standards. His batting until he reached 50 was pathetic. Even dead batting deliveries. Such players wont win you trophies, prime example being his batting in crunch games in his so called strongest format T20 (WC). He had no business playing yesterday, Haris should have played. In games against minnows/dead rubbers you give youngsters a chance, not selfish players to boost their ego's.
Not sure what game you watched. His technique, temperament and partnership with Babar won us the game yesterday.

We barely need to mention his brilliant catching behind the stumps as it's so normal now.

If you watched the game you'd see his LBW again was just clipping the stumps. He got unlucky in all 3 dismissals in this series yet batted well throughout.

Mohammad Rizwan's hands are red raw from delivering slaps over the past few years. This wasn't his tightest or biggest slap. Nonetheless it was a well timed humiliation for anyone trying to use two consecutive unlucky dismissals to question him.
 
WOW, he scores 1 fifty in 3 games vs Afghanistan and that is worth a slap, such high standards. His batting until he reached 50 was pathetic. Even dead batting deliveries. Such players wont win you trophies, prime example being his batting in crunch games in his so called strongest format T20 (WC). He had no business playing yesterday, Haris should have played. In games against minnows/dead rubbers you give youngsters a chance, not selfish players to boost their ego's.
Babar and rizwan couldn't score well because the pitch was terrible and didn't loosen up until after over 30

Look how Afghanistan batted on that pitch before over 30? Their entire batting unit were 5 down and they scored like 80 something in 30 overs.

Rizwan is a no 5 batsmen however, he isn't programmed to play more then 20 overs. But he can provide match winning 50's and 70's which is why he's good in T20 and why his contributions were vital in winning the game yesterday.

He's just playing in the wrong position due to rizwans ego on wanting to play at no 4, when ideally it's best to send him during over 30 roundabout in odi.
 
Not sure what game you watched. His technique, temperament and partnership with Babar won us the game yesterday.

We barely need to mention his brilliant catching behind the stumps as it's so normal now.

If you watched the game you'd see his LBW again was just clipping the stumps. He got unlucky in all 3 dismissals in this series yet batted well throughout.

Mohammad Rizwan's hands are red raw from delivering slaps over the past few years. This wasn't his tightest or biggest slap. Nonetheless it was a well timed humiliation for anyone trying to use two consecutive unlucky dismissals to question him.
I think literally most people will pick him in the xi but it's just about were he should bat that's the issue.
 
While he certainly ranks among the world's top 10 best batsmen at the moment, he's missing that essential on-pitch aura to be currently labeled as number 1.
 
Rizwan's last ODI century was in March 2019, 29 innings ago.

He's also been run out 3 times in his last 7 games. This was his run out today:

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Just a little criticism that I had since the England tour in 2020, he stands too far back. This has a duel impact- some catches don't carry and it deflates the bowler
 
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