[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Jasprit Bumrah is the best fast-bowler in the world right now

He gets the job done, whether bowling at 120 or 140 kph, there is a reason as to why he's no 3 ranked bowler in tests, ofcourse some indians will always find a way to degrade such a good bowler.

Let him bowl to a few non minnows. He didnot do too well againist NZ. Did he?
 
Let him bowl to a few non minnows. He didnot do too well againist NZ. Did he?

He broke down in that series. He has done well against Eng and NZ, and any person who understand fast bowling wouldnt question him like you are doing
 
What’s with the breaking down rant? Ironically its Abbas who’s currently broken down bowling 120kph. :yk

Well, apparently Bumrah needs no rest and will play non-stop cricket. That is the reasoning behind him being ahead of Rabada, Starc and Boult.
 
Bhai, Abbas has looked like a very good Test bowler after a handful of Tests.

But, his sample size is way to small when you consider quality opponents. A few Tests against top sides don't make you world's best, specially when you have done nothing in other formats.

Sample size of both abbas and bumrah is too small.
However in abbas case even if sample size was of more than 30 tests, some foolish indians would have discarded him for being too slow.
 
Bhai, Abbas has looked like a very good Test bowler after a handful of Tests.

But, his sample size is way to small when you consider quality opponents. A few Tests against top sides don't make you world's best, specially when you have done nothing in other formats.

He has played four more tests than Bumrah and has has a much better average. :facepalm:
 
He broke down in that series. He has done well against Eng and NZ, and any person who understand fast bowling wouldnt question him like you are doing

He did well in that NZ series in UAE? Really?

Secondly he doesnot even play all formats.
 
Sample size of both abbas and bumrah is too small.
However in abbas case even if sample size was of more than 30 tests, some foolish indians would have discarded him for being too slow.

Bumrah also plays in 3 formats and done well in all 3 formats so his sample size in considerably bigger than Abbas.

Yes he is slow. But that doesnot mean he is not good.
 
He gets the job done, whether bowling at 120 or 140 kph, there is a reason as to why he's no 3 ranked bowler in tests, ofcourse some indians will always find a way to degrade such a good bowler.

4 Test against top-sides don't make you world's best, specially when you are good for nothing in other formats.

Let him bowl to a few non minnows. He didnot do too well againist NZ. Did he?

He averaged 45.5 against NZ.
 
4 Test against top-sides don't make you world's best, specially when you are good for nothing in other formats.



He averaged 45.5 against NZ.

He's not the best but is among the top three, and according to Steyn he will be there in some time
 
He has played four more tests than Bumrah and has has a much better average. :facepalm:

This thread wouldn't exist if all Bumrah had was early Test format success, he matched it with ODI and T20 performances.

Abbas has done well against England and Australia, but that's just 4 Tests. Not to mention his failure against NZ. Is that enough for a bowler to be world's best? I don't think so.
 
I meant Aus.

As for all format, he being talked about as a good test bowler, so why bring other formats into this?

When we are talking about the best fast bowler in the world then it cannot be restricted to one format. Look at the thread title please.

Secondly Bumrah has not played one test againist a non top 5 side. Probably he will not for a long time as he will be rested.
 
Bumrah is the best bowler

Dhoni is the best WK (though he doesn’t play Tests)

Kohli is the best batsman.
 
He's not the best but is among the top three, and according to Steyn he will be there in some time

Of course, at this point, Abbas indeed has done enough to be rated high in Test format. One of the exciting pacers for sure, but I am only asking questions that were asked for Mustafizur too (and proved to be valid).

Abbas was poor against NZ, so let's not declare someone world's best based on 4 good Tests. That's something [MENTION=129948]Bilal7[/MENTION] bhai has done quite consistently in this thread.
 
Yes he is and he has proved that across formats This year without a doubt. Close thread and move on.
 
When we are talking about the best fast bowler in the world then it cannot be restricted to one format. Look at the thread title please.

Secondly Bumrah has not played one test againist a non top 5 side. Probably he will not for a long time as he will be rested.

No one claimed that Abbas is the best in all 3 formats in first place. And whether bumrah plays against minnow or not doesnt interest us.Abbas clearly has the potential to deliver against most top sides, an indian might have problem understanding it for obvious reasons.
 
Of course, at this point, Abbas indeed has done enough to be rated high in Test format. One of the exciting pacers for sure, but I am only asking questions that were asked for Mustafizur too (and proved to be valid).

Abbas was poor against NZ, so let's not declare someone world's best based on 4 good Tests. That's something [MENTION=129948]Bilal7[/MENTION] bhai has done quite consistently in this thread.

Not the best but among the top 5, and thats what ex great have been saying
 
This thread wouldn't exist if all Bumrah had was early Test format success, he matched it with ODI and T20 performances.

Abbas has done well against England and Australia, but that's just 4 Tests. Not to mention his failure against NZ. Is that enough for a bowler to be world's best? I don't think so.

So change the thread title because to be the best in the world, Bumrah will need to play more than 8 tests. Because like I said, if you are disregarding sample-sizes than Abbas is arguably the best in the world in tests.

What failure against NZ? Did you even see him bowl in that series?
 
No one claimed that Abbas is the best in all 3 formats in first place. And whether bumrah plays against minnow or not doesnt interest us.Abbas clearly has the potential to deliver against most top sides, an indian might have problem understanding it for obvious reasons.

It does matter whether your performances are againist minnows or non minnows.Home or Away.

No one says Abbas doesnot have the potential. But he isnt the best in the world as claimed by Bilal.
 
It does matter whether your performances are againist minnows or non minnows.Home or Away.

No one says Abbas doesnot have the potential. But he isnt the best in the world as claimed by Bilal.

You are the one who brought minnow into this.The fact that abbas played against minnow and isnt express doesnt mean that he cant become the top test bowler in the world.But he needs to play atleast 30 test before we can actually rank him, same goes for others.
 
When we are talking about the best fast bowler in the world then it cannot be restricted to one format. Look at the thread title please.

Secondly Bumrah has not played one test againist a non top 5 side. Probably he will not for a long time as he will be rested.

Has you taken account for others conditions aus/eng/sa all were suited to fast bowling plus for nz 40+ average of Abbas it came at less than 2 runs per over they dead batted every thing of abbass plus Hassan ali and Yasir Shah took loots of wickets which is a startegy in uae stop runs from one side and start taking wickets from other ends i will be happier if u say uae conditions are highly suited towards fast bowlers
 
You are the one who brought minnow into this.The fact that abbas played against minnow and isnt express doesnt mean that he cant become the top test bowler in the world.But he needs to play atleast 30 test before we can actually rank him, same goes for others.

At present Abbas's wicket tally shows a large number of wickets againist minnows. Bumrah's wickets are againist non minnows.

No one says Abbas cannot do well againist non minnows in future. Thats not being said at all.

But Abbas is not the best test bowler in the world as Bilal started claiming.
 
At present Abbas's wicket tally shows a large number of wickets againist minnows. Bumrah's wickets are againist non minnows.

No one says Abbas cannot do well againist non minnows in future. Thats not being said at all.

But Abbas is not the best test bowler in the world as Bilal started claiming.

Abbas singlehandedly won us test matches against Aus on UAE, somewhere where almost all great pacers have failed against us, Steyn is not stupid to rank him as future no 1 test bowler.

And as i said, i won't compare abbas and bhumra with Rabbada coz of sample size.
 
Has you taken account for others conditions aus/eng/sa all were suited to fast bowling plus for nz 40+ average of Abbas it came at less than 2 runs per over they dead batted every thing of abbass plus Hassan ali and Yasir Shah took loots of wickets which is a startegy in uae stop runs from one side and start taking wickets from other ends i will be happier if u say uae conditions are highly suited towards fast bowlers

They haven't seen him bowl at all, of course they are only relying on surface-level stats. Look at some of the other things being said. All they can see now is Bumrah. Every other fast bowler is invisible to them, including ones playing in the same match and doing much better.
 
Has you taken account for others conditions aus/eng/sa all were suited to fast bowling plus for nz 40+ average of Abbas it came at less than 2 runs per over they dead batted every thing of abbass plus Hassan ali and Yasir Shah took loots of wickets which is a startegy in uae stop runs from one side and start taking wickets from other ends i will be happier if u say uae conditions are highly suited towards fast bowlers

You also must consider that Bumrah was bowling to batsmen who were playing at home.

In tests you can afford to dead bat and go at 2-3 runs a over. NZ did that and won the series.

But NZ test may shows us that you can dead bat Abbas and get away as he doesnot have the pace to force the batsman on the backfoot.
 
Bumrah will be world's best bowler: Clarke

Former Australian captain Michael Clarke has declared road warrior Jasprit Bumrah will become the best bowler in the world after he buoyed India's hopes of a breakthrough series win in Australia and raised concerns about Marcus Harris' technique.

Where the state of the MCG pitch had distracted from India's professional cricket through the opening two days of the Boxing Day Test, that wasn't the case on a game-changing Friday when a masterful bowling display destroyed Australia and reopened questions about the lack of heavy-duty run scoring by batsmen in the Sheffield Shield.

Bumrah was at the centre of this. He claimed a career-high 6-33 off 15.5 overs, his third five-wicket haul in nine overseas Tests through South Africa, England and Australia this year which have reaped 45 wickets at 21.24. That he has yet to play a home Test has jokingly been seen as a good thing, for life as a fast bowler on sub-continent decks can be back-breaking.

The product of the western Indian city of Ahmedabad lost his father at age seven and was raised by his mother, deciding at 14 he wanted to become a professional cricketer. Discovered by former Mumbai Indians coach and New Zealand cricketer John Wright, Bumrah is renowned for his mental toughness and application, and said before this tour he had poured through video tapes of previous Indian bowlers here.

Ranked by the ICC as the world's best one-day international bowler, Bumrah is surprisingly rated in only 28th spot on the Test ratings, something Clarke, commentating on the series from India, has tipped he will soon change.

“He must be a great guy to play with and to captain. He doesn’t mind the pressure or the expectations. He wants to learn and is a workhorse - not too long before he will become the best bowler in the world,” Clarke said.

Whether it was through his own canny skill or the incompetence of the home side, Bumrah claimed 5-5 from his last five overs.

Bumrah, complete with an unorthodox run-up and an open-chested action that takes time to adjust to, then worked over Harris, who has been hit in the helmet twice by the fast bowler this series, raising concerns about his ability to handle the short ball.

Harris could not resist Bumrah despite Sharma waiting on the fine-leg boundary. That the Indian spearhead did not have to move highlighted the emerging left-hander had been suckered into the stroke.

The former WA lad had said before play he might be better off playing the short balls behind backward square but his latest undoing came after he attempted to clear the fence.

There is nowhere to hide for players these days such is the video analysis and advanced statistics on offer and Bumrah clearly knew how to exploit the Victorian opener.

Former Test opener Michael Slater suggested Harris' earlier troubles against Bumrah were impacting his ability to play the pull shot.

"It begs the question whether he allowed that pull shot when he played it to be instinct," Slater said on Channel Seven.

"The pull shot – when you play it well – is an instinct shot. The fact that he'd been peppered in that zone, time and time again, I reckon he was thinking about it. That's why you're just a little slow, you don't gauge the bounce as well. (It appeared to be) a bit of a forced effort."

Bumrah's yorker is world class - and so is his variety. This was on show when he deceived Shaun Marsh lbw on the cusp of lunch with a 115km/h slower ball then had Travis Head skittled after the break with a 142kmh effort delivery from wide around the crease which swung back in late and beat the South Australian for pace.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/bumrah-will-be-world-s-best-bowler-clarke-20181228-p50ojn.html
 
Neither Bumrah or Abbas have played enough tests to be judged. It would be disrespectful to others like Anderson or Philander who have been performing consistently well for a much longer period.

In ODIs, I would take Starc or Boult over Bumrah as both have proven to be more destructive and have run through battling lineups as evidenced by their number of 5-fers. Bumrah is no doubt the best death bowler at the moment.
 
Bumrah is undoubtedly the best fast bowler out there by a distance. and he has not even reached his best.
 
McGrath was consistently bowling 140+ in India even in his 30s.

Those calling him a trundler haven't seen much Cricket from the past I guess.

I saw McGrath bowling 135km/hr at least once every over in 2007. Dunno how anybody can call him a trundler tbh.
 
Abbas has an impressive average of 16.6 after 12 matches. Digging deeper into his record, here are some things to consider:

1) He is 28 years old. Why did he not debut earlier? He has only a few more years left.
2) He has played 7 series. Undoubtedly his most impressive series has been Pakistan in England, where he picked up 10 wickets at an average of 14.2. England is currently the second ranked Test team.
3) His other series have been against 3 weak teams (WI, SL and Ireland), a depleted Australia and NZ.
4) Against NZ he was quite poor, averaging 45.5 per wicket. The first innings of the 1st Test he took 2 wickets for 13 runs, but went rest of the first two games conceding 78 and not getting a wicket. The question is whether the NZ players were able to figure out how to play him given his lack of pace. Alternatively, he could have been carrying an injury after the first innings.

I would say that Abbas has had an excellent series against England, but the rest of his career hasn't been too impressive.
 
Bumrah is fantastic & definitely in top 3 .
I worry for his future because of his 6-8 step run up & action due to which he is putting immense strain on shoulder & back .
 
Rabada is ahead in tests purely because he has played more, achieved more. Disregarding stats, I'd still say he's a wee bit more well rounded than Bumrah as a test bowler. This is not to say Bumrah cannot go on to better him but currently he cannot extract conventional swing similar to Rabada.

In ODIs and T20s, Bumrah is hands down world's best bowler, bar none.
 
As of 2018, Rabada and Abbas are ahead of Bumrah in tests, add in an experienced hand like Jimmy who has been terrific and no, he is not the best.
 
If only Indian batsmen could back up bumrah's bowling - except for kohli - and if only pujara played half as much as he is on this tour, these stats would be touted as arrival of "allan donald of India."

And that is really good - we had varun aron, umesh yadav, ishant who started as the fastest in Indian history. Bumrah did what all those bowlers could not - fitness + speed + accuracy = wickets.

The no ball issue is becoming a lesser concern in tests but he has to be aware of this problem in ODIs.
 
Bumrah is exceeding expectations, can be the number one test bowler in few months.
 
Abbas has an impressive average of 16.6 after 12 matches. Digging deeper into his record, here are some things to consider:

1) He is 28 years old. Why did he not debut earlier? He has only a few more years left.
2) He has played 7 series. Undoubtedly his most impressive series has been Pakistan in England, where he picked up 10 wickets at an average of 14.2. England is currently the second ranked Test team.
3) His other series have been against 3 weak teams (WI, SL and Ireland), a depleted Australia and NZ.
4) Against NZ he was quite poor, averaging 45.5 per wicket. The first innings of the 1st Test he took 2 wickets for 13 runs, but went rest of the first two games conceding 78 and not getting a wicket. The question is whether the NZ players were able to figure out how to play him given his lack of pace. Alternatively, he could have been carrying an injury after the first innings.

I would say that Abbas has had an excellent series against England, but the rest of his career hasn't been too impressive.
except Nz series he was impressive, I mean he took wickets which are needed.
 
Bumrah is indeed brilliant. Averages a very well 25 in SA, 25 in Eng and 19 currently in Australia.

I think he has got the start and has potential to become India's greatest fast bowler. Question is if he can maintain the avg under 25 for most part of his career or not? Not any random fast bowler can take 5-fers in first tours to Eng/SA/Aus.
 
India needs to look after Bumrah and keep him away from pointless T20 or ODI series...
 
Abbas hardly bowls above 130. And most of his wickets are againist SL and WI.

How many did he get versus NZ?

Massively overhyped.

Has any Pakistani bowler taken a fifer in Aus SA and Eng ?All three?

Abbas has more wickets against England and Australia than he does against SL.

He has 15 wickets against WI because he played three Tests against them, which is the most he's played against a single opponent.
 
Abbas needs to perform in Australia and Bumrah in Asia. Until then Rabada is the undisputed no. 1 in tests.

In LOIs, Hasan and Bumrah were at the top u til Hasan regressed. Bumrah is the undisputed no.1 in LOIs now. Very economical and a wicket taker with the new ball. Just deadly at the death with pin point Yorkers and slow balls.
 
Abbas moved ball both ways and that can cause trouble for any batting line up. Minnow argument shouldn't be used right now for him.

Bowling units all around world looks pretty good right now.
 
Rabada for now..Bumrah though defn has surprised everyone, remember
[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] saying doesn't India have any bowlers like a question while mentioning Bumrah and Pandya..
 
Where was Abbas hiding all these years. Saw him playing only against Australia.
Why were Pakistan not playing him earlier?
 
Rabada is the only fast bowler right now who might become an ATG. Rest are far too inconsistent or has low sample size.

Cummins, Hazelwood, Rabada, Philander all have the ability to be ATG pacers. At the moment Boult, Starc, Bumrah, Southee are in the 2nd tier.

Bumrah has been on fire, and will join the first tier if he maintains an average around 25 after 20 Tests.
 
Not Dhoni. Nopes.

Rabada is better than Bumrah.

Cummins is better than Rabada IMO. Rabada gets to bowl on helpful tracks in SA. AUS pitches are quite flat, though some may have pace and bounce. Even Boult/Southee/Broad/Anderson get more helpful pitches than Cummins/Hazelwood/Starc.
 
I would say Rabada and Cummins are 1 and 2, but Bumrah is amazing too and definitely up thre among the rest of the bowlers.

Has there been a better time for fast bowling since the 90s? All teams seem to have some very very good pacers.

SA- Rabada, Philander, Steyn, Olivier
Aus- Cummins, Starc, Hazelwood
Ind- Bumrah, Shami, Bhuvi, new and improved Ishant
NZ- Boult, Southee
Pak- Abbas, Hasan, Amir
Eng- Anderson, Broad, Curran

Those are all quality attacks with good variety too.
 
I would say Rabada and Cummins are 1 and 2, but Bumrah is amazing too and definitely up thre among the rest of the bowlers.

Has there been a better time for fast bowling since the 90s? All teams seem to have some very very good pacers.

SA- Rabada, Philander, Steyn, Olivier
Aus- Cummins, Starc, Hazelwood
Ind- Bumrah, Shami, Bhuvi, new and improved Ishant
NZ- Boult, Southee
Pak- Abbas, Hasan, Amir
Eng- Anderson, Broad, Curran

Those are all quality attacks with good variety too.

Currently we have 6 world class bowling lineups. In the 90s only Aus, Pakistan, WI and SA had a world class lineup. India, Eng, AL and NZ didn't have anything special apart. They had 1 ATG or a couple of international class bowlers, but not an international class attack.

Now, we have 6 teams with international class bowling attacks. Even Bangladesh have a bowling attack like India of the 90s - very difficult to bat against at home. SL too had Herath until now.
 
Rabada and Starc are the only two bowlers in cricket who scare me on most wickets.

Starc hasn't been great this year, so I'll go for Rabada who still has good numbers behind him.
 
I’ll be honest I don’t like his bowling style so won’t ever be a fan but I can’t arbue with numbers. He’s been very good

But I’d prefer Shami or Yadav to be best Indian pacer
 
I’ll be honest I don’t like his bowling style so won’t ever be a fan but I can’t arbue with numbers. He’s been very good

But I’d prefer Shami or Yadav to be best Indian pacer

Yadav is 4th best currently behind Bumrah, Shami and Ishant.
 
On current form,

Cummins
Rabada
Bumrah

That's top 3 for me.
 
I’ll be honest I don’t like his bowling style so won’t ever be a fan but I can’t arbue with numbers. He’s been very good

But I’d prefer Shami or Yadav to be best Indian pacer

Yadav is 4th best currently behind Bumrah, Shami and Ishant.

Yadav has been really bad and consistent. There is no way he is better than bhuvi kumar who out averages him in every country played
 
He's bowling well and decently quick. Will have to manage his workload smartly to ensure his action doesn't take massive toll on his body over the next few years.
 
I’ll be honest I don’t like his bowling style so won’t ever be a fan but I can’t arbue with numbers. He’s been very good

But I’d prefer Shami or Yadav to be best Indian pacer

I don't like his action either, reminds me of Malinga the Slinga, although he was a great bowler for all that his action probably limited his variety. Bumrah would be especially effective in limited overs, how is he in test matches? I ask because I haven't really followed his career much, just really seen him bowling ODIs.
 
On current form he is easily the best bowler across formats .

Depends on how long he stays there..
 
I don't like his action either, reminds me of Malinga the Slinga, although he was a great bowler for all that his action probably limited his variety. Bumrah would be especially effective in limited overs, how is he in test matches? I ask because I haven't really followed his career much, just really seen him bowling ODIs.

He basically won India the test series in Australia
 
He basically won India the test series in Australia

Well then I guess he has a legitimate claim. I always like classic pace bowlers who can move the ball both ways off the seam, I assumed that would be difficult with a slinger action, but regardless, as long as he's getting wickets it doesn't really matter how stylish the action is. Is he a good new ball bowler?
 
The only bowler to make it to ICC test and ODI teams of 2018

Very few bowlers have accuracy, pace and ability to move the ball both ways. You need all that to do well in all formats.

He surprised me in the test format. I had him pegged as limited overs bowler. Credit for Kohli to play him in the test.
 
Seems like Jasprit Bumrah has been injured in IPL...
 
Physically he is OK, not injured, Pant gave him some mental trauma though.
 
What? This is what I was saying few months ago too. He was injured before the England tour last year and now he is injured again? Great. #ThankYouIPL

I know you despise the IPL but that injury was extremely unlucky. He turned round and slid to pick the ball up and he got injured . It’s just unlucky and isn’t due to consistently playing.
 
I know you despise the IPL but that injury was extremely unlucky. He turned round and slid to pick the ball up and he got injured . It’s just unlucky and isn’t due to consistently playing.

These injuries can be easily avoided by not playing this useless piece of cricket just before an important world cup. He should be careful because last year too he was injured before England tour and that affected the performance of Indian team. I think fans will understand the importance of resting if he doesn't make it to world cup.
 
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