- Joined
- Aug 12, 2023
- Runs
- 18,304
yup he was bowling quick... hopefully he will carry this rythm till the champion trophyThere was a zip we haven't seen for a long time. IA he gets back to his best
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: this_feature_currently_requires_accessing_site_using_safari
yup he was bowling quick... hopefully he will carry this rythm till the champion trophyThere was a zip we haven't seen for a long time. IA he gets back to his best
He is the third best pacer in Pakistan history after Wasim and Imran. Only injuries stand in his way, but hopefully those days are behind him now.
100% both are better than Shaheen.No, he is not.
Waqar and Shoaib are better than him.
Hasnt even surpassed Gul in terms of impact. Has been pathetic for last 2 years prior to this seriesNo, he is not.
Waqar and Shoaib are better than him.
He is the third best pacer in Pakistan history after Wasim and Imran. Only injuries stand in his way, but hopefully those days are behind him now.
Anyone who doesn’t rate Shaheen highly cannot be taken seriously.Bro what has happened to you.
Seem to be losing that spark of critical analysis and just doing PakPremi type posts where you just love every Pak player.
Waqar would have been barely better than Rauf in today’s era. He was a huge beneficiary of ball tampering and bowling to lineups that 3-4 bunnies.No, he is not.
Waqar and Shoaib are better than him.
Gul with the new ball got rid of an atg sa team in 2013? 5 wickets and 6 runs given?Gul was rubbish with the new ball. Yes he was much better than Shaheen at the death, but I rate bowlers who are a weapon with the new ball.
No one looked at Gul as a threat with the new ball. No opening batsman feared him. He couldn’t swing the ball and at best, jagged it off the seam.
Every opening batsman fears Shaheen with the new ball. Shaheen with a new ball is a story in itself.
Junaid was also similar to Gul. He was good with the new ball in patches only. He was also someone who relied heavily on reverse swing and in addition, he was a chucker. There is absolutely no way he was better than Shaheen.
T20s are different. The real ability of a pacer with the new ball is reflected in Test and ODIs.Gul with the new ball got rid of an atg sa team in 2013? 5 wickets and 6 runs given?
He achieved 5 wickets for 6 runs in t20 twice in his career?
No it isn't? Infact test pacers are better if they learn how to operate with the old ball? Test isn't just about new ball spells.T20s are different. The real ability of a pacer with the new ball is reflected in Test and ODIs.
Besides, that 5 wicket haul vs NZ in 2009 was a bit dodgy. The ball was reversing.
Waqar would have been barely better than Rauf in today’s era. He was a huge beneficiary of ball tampering and bowling to lineups that 3-4 bunnies.
Shoaib has a joke of a legacy. Shaheen is already only 59 wickets away from surpassing his tally in Tests and he hasn’t even hit his peak yet.
Shaheen is on track to becoming one of Pakistan’s greatest fast bowlers. However, to be considered the best in Pakistan’s history, he needs to dominate in Test cricket, particularly against India and SENA countries, and win test matches single-handedly. Has he though?Waqar would have been barely better than Rauf in today’s era. He was a huge beneficiary of ball tampering and bowling to lineups that 3-4 bunnies.
Shoaib has a joke of a legacy. Shaheen is already only 59 wickets away from surpassing his tally in Tests and he hasn’t even hit his peak yet.
Exactly! @Mamoon seems to think everyone in the 90s was clueless, letting Waqar do whatever he pleased. His takes make it sound like the entire cricketing world was asleep but somehow Mamoon has the secrets.Would have, could have has no place in this world. There is no evidence suggesting if Waqar used the tampered balls in 10 tests or 50 tests. Ultimately he is rated for his output and that is what he should be rated. He has done a bit of minnow bashing like everyone does and maybe a bit more but otherwise no other pacer except Bumrah is anywhere close to him in this millennium. Even Shami is comfortably behind.
Shoaib was a top bowler of his era. Quality of wickets matter. Shaheen has a very poor average vs non minnows( well in 30s). Even if he picks 159 wickets more( let alone 59) which he most likely not given his lack of interest in tests and the bowling average he is having, he may still remain behind Shoaib unless he produces spells worth remembering vs quality teams.
He is yet to surpass Amir let alone the likes of Waqar and ShoaibHe is the third best pacer in Pakistan history after Wasim and Imran. Only injuries stand in his way, but hopefully those days are behind him now.
In ODIs and T20s, sure. But in Test cricket? Not yet.But is he better than Asif?