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[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Joe Root - following his career trajectory

therealAB said:
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Root averages 48.62
Kohli averages 44.23
Williamson averages 45.57

Smith averages 57.1!
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Cool. He was a bit of a HTB but the 200s in NZ and SL have fixed that.
 
Test average away from home - 48.04
Test average at home - 50.55
Overall Test average - 49.62

8 of his 19 Test 100s have been away from home.

Superb numbers
 
He’s going to easily end up as a top 10 all time test runs scorer. In fact it wouldn’t be a massive shock if he makes it into the top 5.
 
Maybe Root just needed a little cricket break, which Covid provided.

The guy's young, dealing with a new marriage, baby, captaincy, Cook's absence, a World Cup, one Ashes after the next.

Granted every cricketer goes through similar things, but a lot of stuff was thrown at him in a small space of time, and the captaincy always seemed like one burden too far.
 
He is one of the most consistent batsmen of all time. To have his numbers and overall record in spite of a very poor 50-100 conversion rate reflects unreal levels of consistency.

His failure rate, i.e. getting out for single digit scores or 20s or 30s must be among the lowest in history, which shows how good a batsman he really is.
 
Root's change of form could not have come at a better time with the India series around the corner. Though the challenge in India will undoubtedly be much bigger than the one posed by Embuldeniya at present, these scores are something to be proud of. Granted the Sri Lankan spin attack is not what it used to be but its still Galle, which not too long ago was Sri Lanka's fortress.

That said, Root is still not as good as Smith, Kohli, Wiliamson. He will probably end up with more runs than all 3 and end his career as one of England's best ever. But for me, he is just not as good a player as Smith, Kohli, Williamson. In any format.
 
A great player makes his runs count after getting his eyes in. Root was failing to do so in past but his batting in this series has been brilliant. He just had his 19th test hundred in almost 100 tests, that validates the point further.

Ashes later this year will be important for him because his record isn't good in Australia.
 
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Mamoon said:
He is one of the most consistent batsmen of all time. To have his numbers and overall record in spite of a very poor 50-100 conversion rate reflects unreal levels of consistency.

His failure rate, i.e. getting out for single digit scores or 20s or 30s must be among the lowest in history, which shows how good a batsman he really is.
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Last statement is untrue - the true mark of a great batsmen is how they make their starts count. Anyway, scores less than or equal to 30:

Smith at 62/139 of 45%
Root at 93/180 or 52%
Williamson at 71/144 or 49%
Kohli at 72/147 or 52%, so your initial statement is wrong anyway

In terms of getting to fifty:

Smith at 58/139 or 42%
Kohli at 50/147 or 34%
Williamson at 56/144 or 39%
Root at 68/180 or 38%

The myth of Root being ultraconsistent compared to his peers is incorrect
 
He's a batsman with literally no weakness .What we witnessed for last 2 years or so was a tough period of a legendary batsman.But what's impressive was even in his lean period he maintains a healthy average which displays his quality

He's a batsman with literally no weakness.In front foot he really goes front to either play his shots or block while use the depth of the crease to precision in back foot to split the field.So lad has every armory to tackle turn,bounce and drift

1n his lean patch of last 2-3 years he struggled a bit against lateral movement but when he started his career he was too good against swing and late movement as well.So their is no huge hole his in technique or abilty

His only problem was conversion of 50's but people forget that if he passed 100 he really make it big.
 
Protea Fan said:
He's a batsman with literally no weakness .What we witnessed for last 2 years or so was a tough period of a legendary batsman.But what's impressive was even in his lean period he maintains a healthy average which displays his quality

He's a batsman with literally no weakness.In front foot he really goes front to either play his shots or block while use the depth of the crease to precision in back foot to split the field.So lad has every armory to tackle turn,bounce and drift

1n his lean patch of last 2-3 years he struggled a bit against lateral movement but when he started his career he was too good against swing and late movement as well.So their is no huge hole his in technique or abilty

His only problem was conversion of 50's but people forget that if he passed 100 he really make it big.
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His weakness is mental (only compared to top players)
A perfect batsmen would have scored at least one century in Australia from like 9 matches
I reckon that he has a weakness against the ball moving in to him, can end up playing across his pad poorly
 
therealAB said:
Last statement is untrue - the true mark of a great batsmen is how they make their starts count. Anyway, scores less than or equal to 30:

Smith at 62/139 of 45%
Root at 93/180 or 52%
Williamson at 71/144 or 49%
Kohli at 72/147 or 52%, so your initial statement is wrong anyway

In terms of getting to fifty:

Smith at 58/139 or 42%
Kohli at 50/147 or 34%
Williamson at 56/144 or 39%
Root at 68/180 or 38%

The myth of Root being ultraconsistent compared to his peers is incorrect
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Shows how much Kohli is behind in terms of getting at least a fifty and how much Smith is ahead in every departement than the other 3.
 
Brilliant century....

First scored in Sri Lanka and now in India.

He's been good in Asian conditions as well.
 
Showing hos it done to everyone doubting him.

As I said, in Test he will score many hundreds and he hasn't problem scoring hundreds. His hundred scoring rate will be lesser than the other 3 because it's harder to bat in England but his fifties there in low scoring matches are worth hundred in other matches.
 
Mobashir said:
His hundred scoring rate will be lesser than the other 3 because it's harder to bat in England but his fifties there in low scoring matches are worth hundred in other matches.
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Yeah sure. The rest of the world counts with logical arithmetic, not some concocted Pakistani version

50 = 100

21 = 16 :afridi1

? = 17 :naseem
 
Their wouldn’t be a decline in the first place if his mind wasn’t cluttered with captaincy burden.

It is great to see him balance both jobs now and bat with the same composure and focus that he did before getting captaincy.

He is one of the greatest batsmen of this millennium and there is no doubt about. A complete player who has no weakness against any type of bowling in any conditions.

Certainly the best English batsman I have seen live.
 
An incredible run of scores for Joe!

He just seems to get better and better.
 
Looks like he is back to his best.

Always wondered who is the most talented batsman amongst the fab 4, none of them have earth shattering natural ability but i think Joe Root is better than the other three on this front.
 
Mamoon said:
Their wouldn’t be a decline in the first place if his mind wasn’t cluttered with captaincy burden.

It is great to see him balance both jobs now and bat with the same composure and focus that he did before getting captaincy.

He is one of the greatest batsmen of this millennium and there is no doubt about. A complete player who has no weakness against any type of bowling in any conditions.

Certainly the best English batsman I have seen live.
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Silverwood is doing more than Bayliss, taking pressure off Root.

You’d have to go back to Gooch for an England skipper scoring like this.
 
Top 5 England batsman of all-time:-

Hobbs
Hutton
Hammond
Sutcliffe
Root

With due respect, Gooch, Boycott, Cook, Barrington, Compton( HTB), Dexter and May are behind him.

Edward Tyldesly and WC Grace are beyond these comparisons though.
 
Easily the best player of spin in this England team. Picks the length quickly, nimble footwork and plays that sweep shot with such control.

A sign of a class batsman is also scoring off the good balls which he does too.

Our captain should learn from him in Tests, pretty 60s and 70s with a few cover drives that make for a nice GIF or YouTube compilation is useless if you don't cash in and make a big hundred.
 
ab fan said:
top 5 england batsman of all-time:-

hobbs
hutton
hammond
sutcliffe
root

with due respect, gooch, boycott, cook, barrington, compton( htb), dexter and may are behind him.

Edward tyldesly and wc grace are beyond these comparisons though.
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Thoughts on KP?
 
James said:
Thoughts on KP?
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Forgot to mention him. Same level as likes of Gooch, Compton and rest. A game changer but lacked consistency.

Root has surpassed him. Already gone past his runs tally at better away average and he is not even 31. A solid all-format and all-condition batsman.
 
He was not in decline but going through a prolonged low patch as now he is going through a purple patch. His career graph has always been like that.
 
Mamoon said:
Their wouldn’t be a decline in the first place if his mind wasn’t cluttered with captaincy burden.

It is great to see him balance both jobs now and bat with the same composure and focus that he did before getting captaincy.

He is one of the greatest batsmen of this millennium and there is no doubt about. A complete player who has no weakness against any type of bowling in any conditions.

Certainly the best English batsman I have seen live.
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Haven't you seen KP live?
 
Root is better than Williamson by a good margin. Williamson is a HTB and has a worse than mediocre record in several countries.
 
Mobashir said:
Haven't you seen KP live?
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Root is slightly better in my view. Pietersen had a genuine weakness against SLA and he was not consistent enough.

An average of 47 is not good enough for a batsman who was equal to the likes of Viv Richards and Lara in terms of talent.

In terms of flair and the ability to dominate when in his element, Pietersen was certainly a class apart compared to other English batsmen.

One of the biggest underachievers ever.
 
KP has the edge on most England batters for being a big match player and matchwinner. Always seemed to save his finest performances for the grand occasions and he would lead England to great results on his own. Although after his glorious 2005-2008 period where he was one of the world’s best batsmen (possibly the best), he did go off the boil at times. Hence the sub-50 average.
 
I am not sure that I would put Root in my best XI that I have actually watched yet. That top seven would be

Boycott
Gooch
Gower (c)
KP
Thorpe
Botham
Knott (w)

KP had that shock factor ability to take the game away from top class attacks, fast. Smacking Steyn back over his head into the stands.

Root has benefited from facing some weaker attacks. No Wasim, Waqar, Ambrose, Murali or Warne. That’s why I rate Thorpe higher, currently.

Root would be in the second eleven -

Strauss
Cook
Stewart
Vaughan (c)
Root
Prior (w)
 
Absolutely world class player, and reminding the world of that recently. Will easily break Cook's run scoring record.
 
Mamoon said:
Their wouldn’t be a decline in the first place if his mind wasn’t cluttered with captaincy burden.

It is great to see him balance both jobs now and bat with the same composure and focus that he did before getting captaincy.

He is one of the greatest batsmen of this millennium and there is no doubt about. A complete player who has no weakness against any type of bowling in any conditions.

Certainly the best English batsman I have seen live.
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Better than KP?
 
Joseph Gomes said:
Root is better than Williamson by a good margin. Williamson is a HTB and has a worse than mediocre record in several countries.
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I rate root more also.
But you must consider that nz barely play tests abroad, so Williamson doesn't get the chance to prove himself abroad

Eng play millions of tests and root has plenty of opportunities to improve his records in all countries he tours.
 
Hitman said:
Better than KP?
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I would say so, more consistent and has no weakness against any type of bowling.

If my team has a couple of 50+ averaging batsmen, I would pick Pietersen. If I have a weak lineup, I would pick Root.
 
If it is about enjoying someone bat on a given day, I will pick KP.

But in terms of overall contribution to their nation, both Cook and Root are not just ahead but well ahead.
 
Ab Fan said:
If it is about enjoying someone bat on a given day, I will pick KP.

But in terms of overall contribution to their nation, both Cook and Root are not just ahead but well ahead.
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I respect Cook as opening in England against the Dukes is difficult, but a lot of his hundreds came against fairly weak pace attacks. Those two famous tours of Australia in 2010-11 and India in 2012 are two examples.

When their seam stocks improved, Cook's record wasn't as impressive. He had some phenomenal periods but also a few troughs of bad form, which in fairness he showed tremendous grit to fight out of.

The biggest loss to English cricket for me in the last 15 years was Marcus Trescothick. If his mental health issues didn't surface, he could've gone onto become an English great.
 
What a player man. How the heck do people say he is not in the fab 4? He is definitely going to finish his career as England’s greatest batsmen.
 
A lighter schedule in 2020 seems to have done wonders for Root.

Looking a lot more relaxed and fresh.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A hundred in their 100th Test:<br><br>Colin Cowdrey 104 v AUS<br>Javed Miandad 145 v IND<br>Gordon Greenidge 149 v ENG<br>Alec Stewart 105 v WI<br>Inzamam-ul-Haq 184 v IND<br>Ricky Ponting (x2) 120 & 143* v SA<br>Graeme Smith 131 v ENG<br>Hashim Amla 134 v SL<br>Joe Root currently 128* v IND<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/INDvENG?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#INDvENG</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1357797930296627200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 5, 2021</a></blockquote>
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Root is 154* - double hundred for the taking, I reckon?
 
Magnificent batting from him.
Stroke play, patience, defence, everything in his innings.
 
Joe Root is the 14th Englishman to hit a century in three Tests in a row, following Alastair Cook (2011 and 2012), Ravi Bopara (2009), Andrew Strauss (2009), Ian Bell (2006), Graham Gooch (1990), Chris Broad (1986), Allan Lamb (1984).

Also on the list are Geoffrey Boycott (1971), Ken Barrington (1963, plus four in a row twice in 1961 and 1967-68), Denis Compton (1947), Wally Hammond (1928-29 and 1933), Herbert Sutcliffe (1930-31) and Jack Hobbs (1911-12 and 1924-25).

The England captain has plundered 554 runs in 2021 at an average of 138.5, compared to 464 at 42.2 in 2020.

With 14 Tests still to play this year, he is primed to challenge Michael Vaughan's England record of 1,481 runs in 2002, while the world record — 1,788 by Pakistan's Mohammad Yousuf in 2006 — should also be in his sights.

Root has passed 50 in all seven of his Tests in India, since making his debut as a 21-year-old No 6 at Nagpur in 2012. Only Pakistan's Javed Miandad (eight) has had a longer streak.

Root and Dom Sibley's 200-run stand for the third wicket was the highest by a visiting pair in India since Ian Bell and Jonathan Trott put on 208 at Nagpur in December 2012.
 
Root like he is going to have a record breaking year up there with Yousaf's. I guess Covid restrictions may hold him back a little when it comes to number of matches.
 
Fahdi said:
Root like he is going to have a record breaking year up there with Yousaf's. I guess Covid restrictions may hold him back a little when it comes to number of matches.
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He played 2 in SL, has 4 in India, and 4 at home vs India or 5.
Don't know if he has anymore, but in that form it's enough for him especially against one of his favorite opponents.
 
Mobashir said:
He played 2 in SL, has 4 in India, and 4 at home vs India or 5.
Don't know if he has anymore, but in that form it's enough for him especially against one of his favorite opponents.
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2 against NZ at the start of the summer and the Ashes too at the end of the year.
 
Root's numbers for Tests in India:

Innings 13
Runs 802
Hundreds 2
Fifties 5
Average 66.83
 
NEW DELHI: England skipper Joe Root on Saturday became the first man to score a double century in his career's 100th Test match. The England skipper achieved the feat during Day 2 of the opening Test of the four-match series against India at the MA Chidambaram stadium in Chennai.

Root, while batting on 196, danced down the track and launched India spinner Ravichandran Ashwin over long-on for a six to bring his double century. Root is also the first English cricketer to reach his double century with a six.

In the process, Root also eclipsed Pakistan great Inzamam-ul-Haq's record of the highest score in the 100th Test.
Inzamam had scored 184 runs against India during the Bengaluru Test in 2005. And, the England run-machine broke the 16-year-old record in style.

The in-form batsman, who made his Test debut in India in 2012 and played match-winning knocks of 228 and 186 in Sri Lanka, joined England greats Colin Cowdrey and Alec Stewart in scoring a century in their 100th Test match. He scored 218 runs off 377 balls, including 19 fours and 2 sixes, before being dismissed by Shahbaz Nadeem.

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https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...-100th-test/articleshow/80721872.cms?from=mdr
 
Joe Root - first to score 200 against India since Brendon McCullum's 302 in Wellington in 2013/14.

The last visiting batsman to score 200 in India was also Brendon McCullum, who hit 225 in Hyderabad in 2010/11.
 
Joe Root having a phase like Kohli had in 2016-2017.. Kohli scored 6 double hundred in that period, Root has 2 in last 3..
 
Most Test 200s by Current players

Virat Kohli - 7
Joe Root - 5*
Kane Williamson - 4
 
Most 150+ Scores in Test by ENG Captain

5 - Joe Root*
5 - Alastair Cook
5 - David Gower
4 - Graham Gooch
 
Could equal Kohli as a test batsmen if he continues his form.
Batting beautifully, in complete control.
Some of the better batting against spin I have seen from a touring batsmen in consecutive series, the best I can remember atm is Martyn in 2004 but this has probably been better than that
 
Joe Root has become the highest run-getter across formats for England, on the first day of the first Test against India in Nottingham. He needed 22 runs to surpass Alastair Cook’s tally of 15,737 runs; he got to the mark with a cracking cover drive boundary off Mohammed Siraj in the 33rd over of England’s first innings.

Root has scored 36 centuries and 89 half-centuries, in Tests, One-Day Internationals and Twenty20s combined, at an average of 48.65. He has a better average, overall, than Cook (42.88) and reached the feat in 366 innings as opposed to the southpaw's tally of 387.

The others to follow in the list of highest run-getters across formats for England are: Kevin Pietersen (13,779 runs), Ian Bell (13,331 runs), Graham Gooch (13,190 runs) and Alec Stewart (13,140 runs). David Gower, Andrew Strauss, Marcus Trescothick and Eoin Morgan complete the top 10.

Root is 29th in the list of highest run-getters across formats among batsmen of all countries. Sachin Tendulkar leads the group, with a tally of 34,357 runs, followed by Kumar Sangakkara (28,016), Ricky Ponting (27,483), Mahela Jayawardena (25,957), and Jacques Kallis (25,534).

In Test matches, Root sits third in the list of highest run-getters from England, behind Cook (12,472) and Gooch (8,900).

https://sportstar.thehindu.com/cric...eng-nottingham-first-test/article35719188.ece
 
Batting on 81* in the first Test against India. A crucial and brilliant innings so far.

Can he finally convert this to a first home Test ton since Sep 2018? (which was also against India)
 
Joe is really racking up the runs this year. 4 tons already, including 2 doubles. 1064 runs at an average of 59. In all conditions, against various bowling.

30 years old. The perfect age for a number four. We could be looking at an early stage of the Root career peak.
 
He has 50 Test fifties, 17 more than the next among the fab 4. Brilliant consistency.
 
England batsman stats can be misleading. They play a lot of tests so it is hard to maintain the benchmark averages for them like 50+ batting average and 25- bowling averages. Also, they barely play Vs BD and Zim and often play 5- match test series Vs top teams like India and Australia.

Considering all that, Root is comfortably the second best test batsman of this era with balanced home and away average of 48 and 51 and better than Kohli and Williamson as far as test cricket is concerned.

Williamson is the weakest of fab four. Kohli has played some quality knocks in overseas conditions but at home, he has mostly feasted on flatter tracks at home and his away record is not as good as Smith and Root.
 
Joe Root's Test year so far…

Tests: 10
Runs: 1,244
High score: 228
Average: 69.11
Hundreds: 5
 
ATHERS believes Joe Root is in the form of his life after watching him hold England's innings together with an unbeaten 180:

“It’s an outstanding day for Joe Root as an individual. He’s in the most golden run of form that started at the beginning of 2021 when England went to Sri Lanka.

“He showed all his great skill on the dustbowls in Asia and now he’s got his very best game together in more seam-friendly conditions here at home. He’s in the form of his life and right at the high point of where a batsman should be.

“If you average 50 over a long period of time in Test cricket, as Joe Root has done, you can be pretty sure you’ve proved yourself in all conditions.”
 
James said:
Joe is really racking up the runs this year. 4 tons already, including 2 doubles. 1064 runs at an average of 59. In all conditions, against various bowling.

30 years old. The perfect age for a number four. We could be looking at an early stage of the Root career peak.
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I have not seen dominance like this from an England batter since Gooch in 1990-93. Five centuries in ten tests this year, with five more to play.

He seems to have got past the captaincy problem with a vengeance.
 
I strongly believe Root is the second best test batsman of this era. He has been better away than at home, and his home condition is by far the hardest in the world to bat on. Root has dominated the best spinners in subcontinent and has been arguably the best player of swing bowling in last 20 years (especially in the current bowling friendly era)

Only place Root has underperformed is Australia. Has a good chance to be a legit ATG given the context behind his stats.
 
He is one of the best batsmen I have ever seen against the moving ball. He is a master of playing swing/seam, and and an excellent player of spin.

A top, top player. I think he will score heavily in Australia next time - his concentration levels has improved leaps and bounds.
 
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Root is absolutely terrific and one of the best all format batsmen of modern times, because we should not forget his ODI numbers and performances either. He was not so bad in t20s either but he seems to have been discarded in the format, and not even utilised properly in ODI cricket since the 2019 WC.

In tests, Root is right up alongside the other greats, and the upcoming Ashes will show us just at what level he has found himself on this year.
 
When Root is on song, he makes batting look ridiculously easy. The sign of a batsman with immense natural talent.
 
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