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Just another Tendulkar. Didn't took his team home.

Not a match winner in true sense like say, a Inzamam or Miandad or Anwar.

Actually he did win against us chasing 377. If i remember right he was also involved in a few other chases. He is trying to fit himself in this bazball process and sells himself short. Getting out to reverse sweeps. Hoicks, Needless pulls. If he had played conventionally he could have seen them home.
 
Actually he did win against us chasing 377. If i remember right he was also involved in a few other chases. He is trying to fit himself in this bazball process and sells himself short. Getting out to reverse sweeps. Hoicks, Needless pulls. If he had played conventionally he could have seen them home.

Yeah but that is same as how Tendulkar chased in Chennai 2008.

My point is barring occasional chases, Root is pretty much in same class as Tendulkar. Great consistency, records and batting perfection. But they were not match winners in the true sense like say, a Miandad or Inzamam or Anwar were.
 
Yeah but that is same as how Tendulkar chased in Chennai 2008.

My point is barring occasional chases, Root is pretty much in same class as Tendulkar. Great consistency, records and batting perfection. But they were not match winners in the true sense like say, a Miandad or Inzamam or Anwar were.

Post Bazball his career has changed. Before that he faltered in several matches. Honestly there are not many very good chasers in history in 4th innings. Graeme smith is the god of 4th innings. Then comes others like Punter.
 
Poor stroke at a crucial juncture.

Overall, a very fine test for a very fine bat.
 
Root is back to form it seems. Shame teammates couldn't step up

Average in NZ - 52.53

In India - 50.10

In South Africa - 50.12

In Sri Lanka - 65.50

In UAE - 57.40

in West Indies - 51.50

in England - 53.56

Only Australia left for Root now

Are those career averages? Wow.

What a batsman.
 
He scored 95. What did his team mates do?
Not denying they didn't do much. Don't take me wrong, big fan of Root, such a class act, on and off field.

But the stroke Root played was poor, especially under the circumstances.
 
Root is back to form it seems. Shame teammates couldn't step up

Average in NZ - 52.53

In India - 50.10

In South Africa - 50.12

In Sri Lanka - 65.50

In UAE - 57.40

in West Indies - 51.50

in England - 53.56

Only Australia left for Root now

These numbers are staggering, the only place he has struggled with a considerable sample size is Australia, but has time to improve there and push his average north of 40
 
He’s several level above Kohli in Tests but doesn’t get the same hype.
 
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These numbers are staggering, the only place he has struggled with a considerable sample size is Australia, but has time to improve there and push his average north of 40

ATG level stuff, I didn’t realise his numbers were that phenomenal really. He can get even better.

He’s several level above Kohli in Tests but doesn’t get the same hype.

I think scoring a century in Australia in a Test that England win would complete his record.
 
He’s several level above Kohli in Tests but doesn’t get the same hype.

Kohli is an all format player. A much better captain compared to Root who struggled with leadership. At onie point he averaged 50 in all there formats with large sample. No mean task. Plus IPL. Root in the last 2 or 3 years elevated himself into an elite test player. Kohli went in the opposite direction. Kohli is so good that even after sucking for 3 years he is still ranked 16.
 
Post Bazball his career has changed. Before that he faltered in several matches. Honestly there are not many very good chasers in history in 4th innings. Graeme smith is the god of 4th innings. Then comes others like Punter.

Younis khan has very good 4th innings average 50+ I think.
 
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Just another Tendulkar. Didn't took his team home.

Not a match winner in true sense like say, a Inzamam or Miandad or Anwar.

All he needed was one more batter to hang around with him. 245 aggregate for once out is a tremendous contribution.
 
It will be interesting to see the stats on this.

This is one of the epic chase after losing big guns. Added a 100 partnership with boucher Birmingham Test. 154 not out.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...s-south-africa-3rd-test-296911/full-scorecard

This one after 36/3 at Wellington chasing 230 odd
125 not out

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...vs-south-africa-3rd-test-64076/full-scorecard

This one historic chase at Perth 414/4. ABDV helped him too
This one 108

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...s-south-africa-1st-test-351681/full-scorecard

This one 101 not out

This one relatively simple chase 230 odd at Capetown against Australia


https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...a-vs-australia-1st-test-514029/full-scorecard

I don't think anyone has scored 4 centuries in 4th innings
 
You mean he is not as great as Tendulkar?

I don’t know about this either way, what I am saying is that your view of Root’s 4th innings performance supposedly falling short is not based in fact — see the stats posted above.
 
Compare his away averages to Williamson and we still have a certain poster telling us that he is not fit to lace Williamson’s boots. :))

I have been on this forum for 6 years and have not seen a worse comment, regardless of context. The fact that he was serious is the cherry on top.
 
This is one of the epic chase after losing big guns. Added a 100 partnership with boucher Birmingham Test. 154 not out.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...s-south-africa-3rd-test-296911/full-scorecard

This one after 36/3 at Wellington chasing 230 odd
125 not out

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...vs-south-africa-3rd-test-64076/full-scorecard

This one historic chase at Perth 414/4. ABDV helped him too
This one 108

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...s-south-africa-1st-test-351681/full-scorecard

This one 101 not out

This one relatively simple chase 230 odd at Capetown against Australia


https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...a-vs-australia-1st-test-514029/full-scorecard

I don't think anyone has scored 4 centuries in 4th innings

Birmingham one was epic from Smith point of view. I think it was series winning performance.
 
I don’t know about this either way, what I am saying is that your view of Root’s 4th innings performance supposedly falling short is not based in fact — see the stats posted above.

Okay, averages 43 in 4th innings so pretty decent. But irrespective of that, there are a lot of batting similarities between him and Tendulkar.
 
As I have explained numerous times, fourth innings averages is one of the most overrated statistic that people emphasize on.

Most Test matches are won in the first innings. A batsman who averages 60 in the first innings and 35 in the second innings will win his side more Tests - and put his side in more winning positions - than a batsman who averages 35 in the first innings and 60 in the second.

Scoring big in the first innings sets the match up. A team that scores 400+ in the first innings probably has an 80% chance of not losing the game.

There is no point in scoring a dogged century in the second innings when you are already far behind the opposition and end up losing the game anyway.
 
I don't think chasing big score is important in tests. The true ATG in tests score big first and set the stage for win. Smith doesn't have as many big 3rd/4th innings score because he had already ensured Australia was in a winning position before that.

With that being said, Root has done well regardless of 1st or 4th.
 
My all time English side

1. Sir Leonard Hutton
2. Sir Jack Hobbs (C)
3. Ken Barrington
4. Sir Walter Hammonds
5. Joe Root
6. Alan Knott
7. Ian Botham
8. Jim Laker
9. Headley Verity
10. Fred Trueman
11. James Anderson

Bench - John Wardle , Derek Underwood , Sir Herbert Sutcliffe , Sydney Barnes , Brian Statham , Tony Lock.
 
Two players from current era in all-time England XI, this must be great era for England in Tests also. Definitely better than any they had since 80s(Botham and Knott)
 
'Some record for Root - I only see it continuing'

Sky Sports Cricket's Simon Doull...

"It is some record.

"His average dropped down to 47 under his captaincy, but he was still England's best batsman over that time - by a stretch!

"While he was captain, he was under immense pressure. I'm pleased to see that average back up over 50 now - and I only see it continuing.

"The way he's playing, the freedom that he is playing with - and the freedom of mind - it's so impressive to watch."

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Morgan hails 'immaculate' Root

Eoin Morgan on Joe Root, who will resume shortly on 66:

“Strike rotation is one of the better parts of his already immaculate game. His timing, composure and balance has been [fantastic], no wonder he is averaging around 50."
 
He didnt look even remotely close to getting out.

I think Stokes actually denied the public some more top tier batting by declaring early.

Imagine if Root was batting tomorrow with 2 wickets left. We would have really seen him up the tempo.
 
Yeah because Williamson doesn't get to play 5 tests against India at home right? Or maybe its because Williamson went on a 2 year run where he was only scoring half centuries, right? What was that, if not stat-padding?

The only joke here is you thinking Root is even capable of tying Williamson's shoelaces which he is not. Williamson is not only a more technically sound and more complete batter, but he is also a more complete cricketer. A tactically astute and sharp captain who always gets the best out of his side and and can step-up and play clutch knocks for his side in any format.

Any fool can look at a couple of stats and say that Williamson is a "minnow-basher", but if that fool bothered to look more closely, they would know that Williamson has only averaged under 50 once since 2014. I guess all those tests over an 8 year period were against minnows, right? He also averages 58 as captain.

I also find it funny that you are calling Williamson a minnow-basher, because I'm guessing you saw Root's numbers against Ireland and Bangladesh and decided that you would be safe calling him that. Since Root isn't even a minnow-basher.

Is this guy still active? I wonder if Root has learned to tie shoelaces
 
I would put him in league of Ponting and Chappell purely as a batsman. Better than Kallis( batsman) and Dravid.

Never watched Greg so can’t comment, but I would rank him above Kallis and Dravid for sure.

He is every bit as good - if not better - as Ponting but less glamorous.
 
Roooooooo...ooooot!

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But for unnecessary adventures in recent times his average would have been better. But played unselfishly for team's cause. I still think his normal game is not far off from his new bazball game. He could continue his normal game and make more runs at just slightly lesser pace.
 
But for unnecessary adventures in recent times his average would have been better. But played unselfishly for team's cause. I still think his normal game is not far off from his new bazball game. He could continue his normal game and make more runs at just slightly lesser pace.

Root has been unselfish his entire career. I lost count how many times he has rescued England from 30-3. Imagine the pressure of being the only world class batsman in team for over half your career. Dude's back must be broken with the weight he's been carrying his whole life
 
Marnus Labuschagne's reign as the No.1 ranked Test batter in the world is over with England's Joe Root replacing the Australian in top spot on the latest MRF Tyres ICC Men's Test Batting Rankings.
 
He is comfortably the best Test batsman in the world right now. He is batting at an extremely high level. This is one of the all-time great peaks.

However, he is not fulfilling his potential and maximizing his form because of garbage Bazball tactics where he is instructed to reverse-scoop fast bowlers in the first over of the day and charging spinners for no good reason.

England is letting its greatest batsman down at the peak of his powers. They are also destroying Harry Brook by turning him into a slogger when he has the potential to be so much more.
 
Root is now the no.1 test batsman in the world

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England’s talismanic batting star Joe Root is cementing his status as one of the game’s greats, according to Australian legend Ricky Ponting.

Root scored a sensational 118* and a quickfire 46 in the first Ashes Test against Australia at Edgbaston.

And while Root’s runs weren’t quite enough to prevent England suffering a two-wicket loss, they were sufficient to send him to the top of the latest MRF Tyres ICC Test Batting Rankings.

“I don't think he's been underrated because I don't think he's actually probably fulfilled his full potential until the last two years,” Ponting said of Root on the latest ICC Review show.

“He's never scored a hundred in Australia, but his last two years I think he's made eight or nine hundreds, which has elevated him from being a very, very good player to one of the great players.

“I think now people are starting to understand just how good Joe Root is.”

Since the start of 2021, Root has scored a phenomenal 3345 Test runs in 34 matches, averaging 58.68 and scoring 13 of his 30 career Test centuries.

The England batter has been a dominant force in home conditions, but has also impressed on away tours, scoring tons in India, New Zealand, Sri Lanka and West Indies.

He was also the top scorer in the last ICC World Test Championship cycle, and has started the 2023-25 cycle in similar form.

Australia great Ricky Ponting thinks there is plenty of question marks surrounding England ahead of the second Ashes Test at Lord's
And since passing on the England captaincy to Ben Stokes, Root has also showcased a more attacking side to his Test game, buying into the ‘Bazball’ mantra.

“I mean, the innings he played at Edgbaston was a sensational knock, full of class,” Ponting said.

“He's added some shots to his repertoire, which I didn't think he would be able to do. Reverse sweeping Pat Cummins’ first ball of a day in a Test match on the start of day four was something I didn't think I'd see.”

Ben Stokes vows to ‘keep coming at Australia’ after Edgbaston loss
Still just 32 years old, Root is one of just 11 players to have made 11000 Test runs and is just six runs shy of the top ten all-time run-scorers in Test history.

And he still has time left in his career to move further up that list.

Now free of the burden of captaincy, Ponting (second in that all-time list) believes that the remainder of Root’s career will see the Englishman cement his status as one the all-time greats.

“He's in total control of his game now. He's made over 11,000 runs – there's not many players in the history of the game that have done that.

“So, by the time he's finished, I'm sure he'll be recognised as one of the greats.”

Root moved to the top of the ICC Batting Rankings after his efforts at Edgbaston, with New Zealander Kane Williamson in second, four rating points back.

Four other players from the Ashes series are in the top seven of the rankings, all Australian – Marnus Labuschagne, Travis Head, Steve Smith and Usman Khawaja.

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I already have a good one bud. Would you be willing to accept you were very wrong and now humbled?

The fact that you bookmarked this and still remembered to quote it close to a year later points to the contrary.

I admitted that long ago and moved on with my life because I have better things to do than remind people that they were wrong a year ago. So to reiterate, get a life bro.
 
A legendary batter and a handy part-time spinner.

I think he can be considered as a low-key all-rounder.
 
One thing is pending in his career. Having a good series in Australia. Atleast one good series. His issues against bounce will make me wonder whether he can do that.
 
I will be surprised if he doesn't get past 14k test runs mark. There will be a time when his peak form will go away and that's where he needs to decide whether he wants to play for records or retire with a respectable average of 49-50. I would want him to retire with a 50 average because he belongs to that league.
 
Another good test series for Joe Root

Mat - 5
Inns - 9
Runs - 412
Avg - 51.50
100s -1
50s - 2

Second highest batting average and third highest run scorer in the entire series (for both countries)

1. U Khawaja - 496 runs @ 49.60
2. Z Crawley - 480 run @ 53.33
3. J Root - 412 runs @ 51.50
4. B Stokes - 405 runs @ 45.00
5. S Smith - 373 runs @ 37.29
6. H Brook - 363 runs @ 40.33
7. T Head - 362 runs @ 36.20
8. M Labuschagne - 328 runs @ 32.79
9. J Bairstow - 322 runs @ 40.25
10. B Duckett - 321 runs @ 35.66
 
Root should surpass Cook but not sure if he can surpass Tendulkar. He has to play for 5-6 more years to surpass Tendulkar probably (that's assuming his form will not go bad).
 

Joe Root of Rajasthan Royals opts out of IPL 2024​

Former England skipper Joe Root has opted out of IPL (Indian Premier League) 2024, Rajasthan Royals announced on Saturday.

Root was picked for his base price of Rs. 1 crore at the 2023 IPL auction and played three matches for Rajasthan Royals, scoring 10 runs and bowling two overs without picking a wicket.

Former England skipper Joe Root has opted out of IPL (Indian Premier League) 2024, Rajasthan Royals announced on Saturday.

Root was picked for his base price of Rs. 1 crore at the 2023 IPL auction and played three matches for Rajasthan Royals, scoring 10 runs and bowling two overs without picking a wicket.

“During our retention conversations, Joe informed us of his decision to not take part in IPL 2024. Even in a short span of time, Joe was able to create such a positive impact on the franchise and the players around him. His energy around the group and the experience he brought to the Royals will be missed. We respect his decision totally and wish him success in everything he does,” Kumar Sangakkara, Royals’ Director of Cricket, said.

Root’s decision to not take part in the upcoming IPL season comes a day before the retention deadline, which ends on Sunday.

Source: The Hindu
 
I think, he made the right decision. He should focus on ODI and Test cricket that are the two formats that suit his game better than the T20 cricket.
 

Joe Root of Rajasthan Royals opts out of IPL 2024​

Former England skipper Joe Root has opted out of IPL (Indian Premier League) 2024, Rajasthan Royals announced on Saturday.

Root was picked for his base price of Rs. 1 crore at the 2023 IPL auction and played three matches for Rajasthan Royals, scoring 10 runs and bowling two overs without picking a wicket.

Former England skipper Joe Root has opted out of IPL (Indian Premier League) 2024, Rajasthan Royals announced on Saturday.

Root was picked for his base price of Rs. 1 crore at the 2023 IPL auction and played three matches for Rajasthan Royals, scoring 10 runs and bowling two overs without picking a wicket.

“During our retention conversations, Joe informed us of his decision to not take part in IPL 2024. Even in a short span of time, Joe was able to create such a positive impact on the franchise and the players around him. His energy around the group and the experience he brought to the Royals will be missed. We respect his decision totally and wish him success in everything he does,” Kumar Sangakkara, Royals’ Director of Cricket, said.

Root’s decision to not take part in the upcoming IPL season comes a day before the retention deadline, which ends on Sunday.

Source: The Hindu

Surprising that IPL was taking him before. He doesn't seem great for T20.

He belongs in Test and ODI.
 
Root should only focus on Test cricket. He's not a T20 batter and hasn't been a good ODI batter since the previous World Cup.
 
Joe Root is a beautiful Test batsman., probably England’s finest since Hutton.
He has lost his way recently trying to adapt to the hype of “Bazball”
His game is clearly not suited to T20.

However, he lives and represents a country that places a premium on Test cricket, and the Ashes above all else (ask any England cricket fan whether they would rather win the Ashes or the World Cup and the answer is clear).

So, he should concentrate on Test cricket and perhaps ODI.
He has a three year central contract (worth £800 K a year) and so is reasonably financial secure.
Go out and show you are England’s premier Test player.
 
I never consider Joe Root as a white-ball cricketer. His techniques in white-ball cricket are not according to the new methods of cricket. Though he averages 47 in ODIs, I think it has declined from 50+.
 
BCCI need to get a grip on these things and never select any player that opts out from IPL unless its an injury. These english players like Stokes and Root are all fit but want to skip IPL to focus on internationals. Then why give their name in the first place? Go and play internationals. No one putting a gun on your head to give your name in auction. Stokes has a million dollar IPL deal, getting fat pay checks and not even playing. It is not suppose to be a charity that you can come in and go whemever you want. English players and board always has got condeecending view towards IPL. Still remember how they blamed IPL for their Ashes debacle.

There should be a strong rule, if you are fit..you can't rule yourself out if you got an IPL contract. Else that player must be perma ban from participating in the tournament. I am afraid many players are bluffing BCCI and time to get handle on such things.
 
I think there is some relaxation in the contracts that allows them to opt out anytime. That's why they are making such decisions. And definitely, they are not getting paid after withdrawing contracts.
 
Joe Root has a pretty good bowling average in India. He can be a handy off-spinner for England during the England tour of India in 2024.

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Look who Joe Root has crossed to achieve this feat.

Most runs in India-England Tests
2555 Joe Root
2535 S Tendulkar
2483 S Gavaskar
2431 A Cook
1991 V Kohli​
 
Look who Joe Root has crossed to achieve this feat.

Most runs in India-England Tests
2555 Joe Root

2535 S Tendulkar
2483 S Gavaskar
2431 A Cook
1991 V Kohli​
That too at an average of 62.31

Fantastic!
 
Joe Root got an all-important wicket os Jaiswal on the 4th ball of day 2 of the 1st test match against India. What a way to start the day for his team. England should have used him yesterday as well but they missed the trick.
 
Former India spinner Murali Kartik on Joe Root:

"Where is Joe Root? Four overs. Four threatening overs. Yet he is MIA."

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On day 2 of the first Test between India and England, off-spinner Joe Root (2-77) emerged as the standout among England's slow bowlers. Both his wickets were crucial dismissals, accounting for Yashasvi Jaiswal (80) and Srikar Bharat (41).
 
Root has improved a lot specially as a part time bowler... he is taking wickets more frequently now.

It's very handy to have such wonderful batsman who can also get u wickets at crucuial moments.
 
Root has got another wicket. Jadeja is gone. Joe Root has been the pick pf the bowlers from the English side. Brilliant so far.
 
Root has got another wicket. Jadeja is gone. Joe Root has been the pick pf the bowlers from the English side. Brilliant so far.
2 in 2 for Root and he was on a hat-trick but SIraj saved the day. Joe Root has been super so far. 4 wickets for 79 runs.
 
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