leatherface58
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He has as many wickets as his age. That is amazing.
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He has as many wickets as his age. That is amazing.
He's decent but that's about it.
Pakistan have such spinners playing in the back allies. :javed
Hmm, A lot is there!!! After saqlain is there any ok offspinner in Pakistan!! Hmm there was Ajmal & Hafeez!!! And we all know why they were good!!!
Hmm, A lot is there!!! After saqlain is there any ok offspinner in Pakistan!! Hmm there was Ajmal & Hafeez!!! And we all know why they were good!!!
Because one of them was the best doosra bowler ever, along with being a superbly intelligent bowler and the other had very good accuracy and could therefore keep things very tight.
I like Mehdi though, has serious potential.
Because one of them was the best doosra bowler ever, along with being a superbly intelligent bowler and the other had very good accuracy and could therefore keep things very tight.
I like Mehdi though, has serious potential.
Given India's batting issues with Greg Mathews, Murali, Saqlain, Symcox, Swanne, Moeen etc how good or bad this fellow can be is a curious guess to make - the cricket world needs a good spinner contest like Warne vs Kumble of 1990s and mid 2000s (ofcourse they are leggies) . In this background, in the upcoming 1 off test, this fellow can test the Indian team, if their opener Tamim clicks, in Hyderabad in Feb 2017. Also, I wonder how he would perform against India in general, in the coming years....early days, but I feel India will be challenged in their own strengths - its like Rabada vs SA team, fast bowling being SA strong suit.....your guess...?
Greg mattews troubled India in India in that famous Madras tied test 1987 and throughout mid to late 80s. And as for Murali, though not India, Ind had troubles in Sl, Moeen instrumental in Eng in picking up crucial wickets in 2014, Symcox usex to pick wickets like Moeen but in Odis, to trouble India in late 1990s. I gave a bit of generalized statement of offspinners who troubled India in India or in their territories...you need to focus a bit about cricketing history of famous events like the 1987 test etc, though one is expected to know all. And barring the Nz and Eng series, the current India srruggled againt spinners in their own terriotory is no secret.
Miraz is a classical spinner who bowls wicket to wicket. Probably the most crisp off spinner right now.
However I don't know how well he will perform against India. Our spin attack will be Shakib-Miraz.
I don't think India will have much issue with our spinners to be frank
is this the same boy who tore ENG apart with their bowling?
if so, looks very promising. can bat too by the looks of it.
Its not always about avg, agreed cricket is largely about average bit the timing of wicket and breaking of partnership is also crucial, the case being of Greg Mathews and Moeen Ali. Also, Symcox was not a match winning bowler but on the lines of Moeen ali, acted as catalyst in determining the match oucome by picking Sachin or the middle order guys at times when match is going India's favor. If you saw it live you would know how match changing these guys were, not lethal but effective off spinners. To draw a comparison, how Lyon picked up Younus and Azam in the latest Brisbane test, agreed they were badly timed shots but march changing ones. The only assuring part I would believe, they dont have batters to take advantage of such wickets.
Finger spinners definitely troubles Indian batsmen more. Apart from the names you mentioned, Swan bowled well in 2012 & won the Oval Test in 2011; Saqline had 4 straight 5fers, while Tauseef & Qasim won that Bangalore Test with 9 each. Underwood & Gibbs troubled IND through-out 60s & 70s. In ODI, Hooper & Harper bowled well, but most surprising is once Viv took 6/42 to win an ODI at Delhi, probably taking 6 of the last 7 wickets cheaply. I think, Indian batsmen read the leg-spin in air, hence hardly any leggi troubles them; but accurate finger spinners had been successful on helpful condition - even Lyon has a 12 wicket match.
Why can't they do that against offies like leggies?
May be it's the batting philosophy - from Merchant to Niar, Indian batsmen play to dominate spinners, which makes them more vulnerable against finger spinners. Normally, finger sinners are far more accurate & can use pace variation more than wrist spinners - it's more difficult to survive against Leggi, if you are a batting novice (hence tail struggles against leggi more), but chances are higher to get out if you try to score quickly against accurate finger spinners.
More or less, I haven't seen any leggi to drop 6 balls on sweet spot against even Mongia or Robin Singh; but offies or lefties can strangle Indian batsmen. I think, with an English philosophy against spin, Indian batsmen can avoid losing a wicket at less than 120 SR (a wicket in 20 overs), but then RR will come down below 3, close to 2.5 level. It's a trade off, otherwise if they don't try to score off spinners, teams will dominate with pacers.
I see...makes sense...thanks.
But that means they are reading offies in the air too right? If not.....why not?
A Pakistani commentator was debating whether Mehidy Hasan Miraz is a proper bowler or a part-timer. Meanwhile, Mehidy Hasan Miraz is having the time of his life in Rawalpindi! He sends Mohammad Ali back to the pavilion, claiming his fourth wicket of the innings
Mehidy Hasan Miraz is one of the smartest players ever from Bangladesh and amongst their top-tier players. He spun his web around the Pakistan batters to secure his 10th five-wicket haul, claiming figures of 5/61 in the 2nd Test against Pakistan.A Pakistani commentator was debating whether Mehidy Hasan Miraz is a proper bowler or a part-timer. Meanwhile, Mehidy Hasan Miraz is having the time of his life in Rawalpindi! He sends Mohammad Ali back to the pavilion, claiming his fourth wicket of the innings
Mehidy Hasan Miraz is one of the smartest players ever from Bangladesh and amongst their top-tier players. He spun his web around the Pakistan batters to secure his 10th five-wicket haul, claiming figures of 5/61 in the 2nd Test against Pakistan.
Surprised Ashwin is not in this listMehidy Hasan Miraz is the highest run-scorer and the leading wicket-taker for Bangladesh in the ongoing WTC cycle.
500 runs and 30 wickets in a WTC cycle
(1334, 34) - Ben Stokes (England, 2019-2021)
(721, 47) - Ravindra Jadeja (India, 2021-2023)
(971, 30) - Ben Stokes (England, 2021-2023)
(512, 34) - Mehidy Hasan Miraz (Bangladesh, 2023-2025)
Mehidy Hasan Miraz appointed as Bangladesh's vice-captain for ICC Champions Trophy 2025 – smart decision or a mistake?
Congratulations to Miraz for reaching 200 Test wickets. He achieved this milestone at the age of 27.
He is the third Bangladeshi to get 200 Test wickets (after Shakib and Taijul).
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Not sure if it will be a good appointment as Miraz also has the superstar syndrome and ha fallen out with management in domestic cricket as well. On the other hand, there weren't many options available for BCB either.
It's not about the captaincy experience. More about how an individual carries himself. If I am not wrong, he sat out of a few games in BPL because some people criticized him for opening the batting. A leader needs to absorb all the pressure and be sensible and should put the team's needs ahead of his own. We saw the same happening with Babar.Miraz has captaincy experience. He used to be the captain at U-19 level.
I think he should've been made captain much earlier.