No it’s not ironic that I am telling you to grow up. We all know about your hypocrisy and toxic agendas here. You won’t have any problem with Amir if he didn’t show up the unprofessionalism of Misbah ul Haq when it comes to dealing with high value cricketers.
i have been bashing Amir since 2011.
And Steven Smith.
Amir is a criminal. Farhat was never one. Farhat was never thrown in a Jail cell.
Wow that's impressive.
Amir did what he had to to ensure Pakistan can still escape from the miserable situation it’s Batsmen particularly the frauds Babar and Rizwan put them into by scoring an underpar total on a road.
You should be consistent in your criticism.
That’s personal. Nothing to do with cricket.
It was something that can happen to any bowler. It can happen.
Its personal? It has nothing to do with cricket?
So why are Pakistan begging him to play if he has no respect according to you whilst Imran Farhat is more respected? That makes Ahmed Shahzad more respected than Imran Farhat? Wahab Riaz is more respected and hold more sway than Misbah ul Haq??
A criminal will always have lower respect comapred to a guy with no criminal record.
They deserve criticism too. It was a real failure of leadership
It was a reality check actually. Everything that people have been saying for ages here all was exposed that day.
Do you specialise in the art of “saying nothing of value” whilst trying to say something of value?
Forgive and forget their flaws? They don't even talk about their flaws to begin with?
We can respect him for being a good family man who made his susral proud.
I wish we all had a susar like that
What proud a poor average in early 30s and a habit of fishing outside off stump
I've seen it all today.
here we go, here comes the guy who makes assumption.
A criminal who sold the country for a few pounds. Atleast Farhat isnt in the juvenile record of a UK prison.
Sure, but I think the context around it is super important. Without Amir, you don't reach a super over. It's as simple as that. The batsmen were definitely at most fault that day for treating USA like it was an Australian attack, and then the bowlers getting pummelled. Yes, the super over was bad, but we didn't have to do it in the first place. Context was super important that day
In my comment I said you would deflect and here's another deflection.
I think it's SO easy to say now that without Amir playing and bowling the way that he did, that India would have still won. Dhawan and Kohli were in the prime of their careers. That top 3 of India destroyed everyone that tournament. All in red hot form and averaging high 60s and 70s. Kohli being over a 100. In that Lords pitch, India had every chance to chase down that total. We all know what a great team India was at chasing. This was easy for them. They, along with the rest of India, definitely came out thinking that they got the CT in the bag. But Amir had different plans for them. Of course, Fakhar's, Hafeez', Hassan's, etc., all performances were crucial.. this is a team game. But Amir's was definitely a match tilting effort that has to be undeniable.
Brother, the regulation game IS the context, and the super over only exists because of the events of the game. You cannot just dismiss it. I am not absolving Amir of any blame. I literally said in my post that you are replying to that it was a bad super over. But do I think that means that all attention should be diverted to Amir for that super-over and he should be made out to be the match mujrim when the main question should be why are we playing a super over against the USA in the first place? Absolutely not. All the failures of the team in that match escaped criticism bc of that super over. That is my problem. Babar is fortunate that Amir and Naseem bowled well enough that they even had a shot at a super over where yes Amir lost it. But come on, a super over against USA? You first blame everything that led to that, and then the dude who was one of the few performers that day
World cricket has said some great words about babar too. Why u go running seeing that.
It is just said now, it was said at the time too
This is a good concise sum up of Amir's career.
Thats fair.
No fakhar was a bigger match winner. There is a reason such high total has never been chased in a final.
entire chapter to be dedicated to the Indian behind which was opened, still not recovered 
Exactly. People have such a short memory. He had barely done anything until we actually got to the final. Even then, Fakhar had won us the game long before Amir bowled his first delivery.
i dont have time for your stupid assumptions. You make up your own story to everything.
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He'll say the words "i don't have time to reply to your stupid claims" not realising these are his own claims
doesnt matter, he is a criminal that was locked up in a cell in UK.
Everyone is responsible for their own actions. You can try to pin it on anyone you want.
Giles Clarke than. The image that bought shame to Pakistan cricketOf course Ashley Giles didn’t want to look at his face because that’s not Ashley Giles
He had the ball on strings that day. That was one of the greatest opening spells of all time. Pressure of a final. Pressure of being on the backside due to the pummelling against the same team to open the tournament. Up against 3 of the best batters and the best top order in the world, all in sublime form. And it took one spell for them to perish against some elite bowling on a flat Lords' ground. That day alone should earn any genuine or sensible fan's respect.
spin what? Everyone knows what Amir did, if his fans want to stay in denial so be it@Major How you going to spin this one
Amazing how Butt mimics everything Misbah preaches and looks to shut down any discussions of a modern, aggressive approach to batting.I have no qualms about not forgiving Amir, but what about the syndicate which enabled him; e.g Misbah’s best mate
Your charting nonsense. We can start looking at your posts from 2017-19
Misbahs mate was Malik not Butt.I have no qualms about not forgiving Amir, but what about the syndicate which enabled him; e.g Misbah’s best mate
Farhat doesn’t have respect in his own backyard, Amir is internationally famous for his cricket (yes notorious for the jail time should be locked up for bruising Indians badly as well), everyone loves him in England from my own experiences
go for it, i have always maintain the guy is a fixer and shouldnt return
He claimed that Brad Hodge is a wicket keeperLOL no way, how did I miss this
. Same guy was telling me that since I don't watch other teams he knows more about international players.
Yeah I mean the collapse had nothing to do with Rizwan shooting the required run rate from 8-9 an over all the way up to 13-14 an over with him at the crease since ball 1?
Is Giles Clarke Ashley Giles btw?
Same here! Mohammad Amir has given me some of my happiest moments as a fan. That wicket in the 2009 T20 World Cup Final of Dilshan is also unforgettable.
Bro, I get it—what he did was a crime, and it was disappointing, no doubt about it. It left a bad taste and was one of the lowest points for all of us. But here’s the thing: every crime comes with a punishment, and once someone admits their fault, apologizes, and serves their punishment, shouldn’t that be the end of it?
bro, there is a line that you dont cross and in cricket that line is fixing. In sports in general, once you start fixing games you can never come back from it, its a big nono.
I understand. However, there is an appropriate punishment for an act. After punishment is done, one must be forgiven.
Anyway to respond to your above quote. Even neutral fans were critiquing and talking about how rubbish that innings was.
Says the who thinks Amir a legend.@Major How you going to spin this one
what??
but still his little post ban span is way better than shaheen's whole career.
Still isnt a legend.
