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[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Mohammad Amir - a failed career?

shamaan said:
Still isnt a legend.
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He is a Pakistani legend / Hall Of Famer, that’s a fact, playing a pivotal role in two key ICC wins wont ever be forgotten, yes the spot fixing will be mentioned but for me, he made up for that by helping Pakistan win another trophy and also psychologically scarring Indians for decades to come.

We all criticised him for retiring, but he was right when Shaheen & Naseem spend more time on a hospital bed then on a cricket pitch.
 
shaz619 said:
He is a Pakistani legend / Hall Of Famer, that’s a fact, playing a pivotal role in two key ICC wins wont ever be forgotten, yes the spot fixing will be mentioned but for me, he made up for that by helping Pakistan win another trophy and also psychologically scarring Indians for decades to come.

We all criticised him for retiring, but he was right when Shaheen & Naseem spend more time on a hospital bed then on a cricket pitch.
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So marlon samuels is greater than any west indian batter in last 25 years? He won them two finals.

Its not just about finals its about bowling well throughout your career which amir failed to do despite his skills. An avg of 31 in tests is by no means legendary.

He was a good bowler and we should get our facts straight he didnt singlehandedly won us both tournaments. He had hasan ali mott and fakhar with motm performance.
 
Hyder said:
So marlon samuels is greater than any west indian batter in last 25 years? He won them two finals.

Its not just about finals its about bowling well throughout your career which amir failed to do despite his skills. An avg of 31 in tests is by no means legendary.

He was a good bowler and we should get our facts straight he didnt singlehandedly won us both tournaments. He had hasan ali mott and fakhar with motm performance.
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I certainly remember Marlon playing those two iconic knocks, he’s a West Indian legend for sure, and played a big role in the resurgence of interest in West Indian cricket this century so that counts for a lot.

You should read posts very carefully, I said he played a pivotal role, cricket is a team sport regardless. In terms of the barometer for being a legend this century as a Pakistani bowler, who has set the standard ? Amir is the best Pak fast bowler of his era and I agree the numbers overall are not amazing but his success in ICC tournaments cements his Pakistani Legend status.
 
It takes a lot to come back from adversity and I guess Mohammad Amir just hasn't got it in him. Many gave him benefit of the doubt due to his young age although he should have known that what he was doing was Illegal even at that age.

Then, when given a second chance, he should have put his head down and worked hard to do justice to his Talent...Instead what we got was years of tantrums!
 
Hyder said:
So marlon samuels is greater than any west indian batter in last 25 years? He won them two finals.

Its not just about finals its about bowling well throughout your career which amir failed to do despite his skills. An avg of 31 in tests is by no means legendary.

He was a good bowler and we should get our facts straight he didnt singlehandedly won us both tournaments. He had hasan ali mott and fakhar with motm performance.
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Marlon Samuels will always be remembered as a special player though.
no one is saying here that Amir was the “greatest ever”.
 
daytrader said:
Can you show me an instance where any of those teams scored 66/1 against a top side?
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You’re asking for work!
I don’t get your point though. Are you saying Pakistan doesn’t have talent to exploit the Powerplay? Are you saying Rizwan and Babar are the best openers and there is no one else worth trying or investing in the past 4 years? We should stick with it and not even try? What’s your point
 
Farabi said:
You’re asking for work!
I don’t get your point though. Are you saying Pakistan doesn’t have talent to exploit the Powerplay? Are you saying Rizwan and Babar are the best openers and there is no one else worth trying or investing in the past 4 years? We should stick with it and not even try? What’s your point
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‘Babar Azam is our King.’

‘We should bow before Babar for being marginally better than others.’

‘The talent of King Babar can only be reinforced through comparisons with the resources in Pakistan only.’

If Shan Masood is putting out more impactful performances it should be a wake up call for him & his fans, but no, can’t wait for them to celebrate when Shan fails and Babar gets to a 50 before throwing his wicket away; this essentially justifies the greatness of their King.

This is the mind bending sorcery which is going on in the heads of these absolute weapons.
 
shaz619 said:
‘Babar Azam is our King.’

‘We should bow before Babar for being marginally better than others.’

‘The talent of King Babar can only be reinforced through comparisons with the resources in Pakistan only.’

If Shan Masood is putting out more impactful performances it should be a wake up call for him & his fans, but no, can’t wait for them to celebrate when Shan fails and Babar gets to a 50 before throwing his wicket away; this essentially justifies the greatness of their King.

This is the mind bending sorcery which is going on in the heads of these absolute weapons.
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But in order to compare, others need a chance. How many games have Fakhar and Mohd Haris opened in T20Is?
Saim Ayub has shown that Pakistan has better options just need to be patient and invest in the right man for the right job .
 
Farabi said:
But in order to compare, others need a chance. How many games have Fakhar and Mohd Haris opened in T20Is?
Saim Ayub has shown that Pakistan has better options just need to be patient and invest in the right man for the right job .
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Fakhar has opened around 35 to 40 matches and avgs 20 smth with 120 sr.
Meanwhile at no 4 he still avgs 25 almost but his sr is up to 160. So whoever made him bat lower has actually helped him and the team.
 
Hyder said:
Fakhar has opened around 35 to 40 matches and avgs 20 smth with 120 sr.
Meanwhile at no 4 he still avgs 25 almost but his sr is up to 160. So whoever made him bat lower has actually helped him and the team.
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Fakhar as an opener came in his own in PSL since 2020 and he hasnt opened since for Pakistan. Hes the best opener in the country and wasted at no4.
Anyway, don’t wanna waste my time. Believe whatever you want.
 
Thread is about FAKHAR???? NO IT IS NOT>...

PLEASE TALK ABOUT AMIR HERE
 
Depends how you look at it. Seeing at Amir in 2009 you can easily say he didn’t fulfil his potential. But after the 5 year ban in 2020, many thought he wouldn’t even make a return but he did and managed to win a Champions Triphy final beating Bharat in the final. In T20s he’s still a relevant bowler in the leagues cricket.
 
Mohammad Amir is among top 5 wicket takers in ILT20...

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his performance in these mickey mouse leagues don't matter. He was never really able to be the player he was after returning. His decision to stop playing test cricket caused his doom. He turned to be a selfish money oriented player who will just be remembered as a match fixer. The guy always had way too much arrogance in his attitude.
 
Mohammad Amir speaking during the Vipers Voices post-match podcast :


Mohammad Amir on reaching the final of the DP World ILT20:

“Thank you and I think this is what you play for. When you start the tournament, the aim is to play in the final. I just want to say it (getting into the final) is a team effort. In my opinion, (seeing ) the way we played in the whole tournament, we deserve to be in the final and we are.”

Mohammad Amir on whether the toss played an important role in the Vipers’ win:

“For me, I think it's about the power play. How you perform in the power play, especially in Sharjah (decides the way the match will go).

“If you get two or three early wickets, I think you a're always in the game. I think we really did well in the power play, starting with me and David Payne, I think it was lovely. And then Sam Curran’s three overs were world-class, especially the way he was bringing in variations, and then Khuzaima came in (and played his part).

“I believe it is all about how you adjust to the conditions and understand what the wicket is demanding. I am a strong believer that you have to play according to the wicket. The minute we realized that the slower ball was gripping and hard lengths were hard to hit, we adjusted and bowled according to the wicket (conditions).”

Mohammad Amir on his responsibilities as the senior bowler in the team:

“It is all about teamwork. As a main bowler, my duty is to pass the message on to the other bowlers and let them know if the ball is swinging and tell them to swing the ball as long as they can.

“Once it stops swinging then it is about letting them know to focus more on the variations. It is all about communication, and how you communicate with your teammates. As a senior player, I think it i's my duty to communicate with the other bowlers.”

Mohammad Amir on how the team is motivated to come back and beat the Dubai Capitals having lost to them thrice this season:

“They (Dubai Capitals) have won three games in a row, and I think it is our turn now to beat them in the big stage. But let's see.

“I always believe that in the final whoever handles the pressure well has more of a chance to win the game. In the final, the margin of error is very low so you have to be on your toes every single time.

“And I think as a team, we did well today, and we have to repeat this performance on the final day.”.

Mohammad Amir on how important it is for him personally to win in the final:

“I love big stages, to be honest. And why not? I want to be a part of the champion team. And I think this (DP World ILT20) is on my bucket list. (In the past I have ) won 2009 (T20) World Cup, ICC Champions Trophy, PSL, CPL, T10. And now I want to win this tournament.”
 
Completely finished as a bowler. Impact ratings from ILT20 suggest that he was only the 9th best seamer even in this league.
 
Back on local media, as an analyst/expert lets pray for Pakistan team.

His 1st latest revelation

Babar does not fit in the team as an opener!
 

Amir on TV "Surprised on selection of Faheem and Khusdil as they were no where in pecking order & central contracts, Abass Afridi Sufyan were better options".

@Rana views
 
Going OTT against Saim & Babar, surely that was something else than passion. Now waiting for Imad wasim bowling against Babar
 
Lol Amir in the ILT20 had the keeper stand up to him at the stumps in the final. He was once a 140-148 km/hr bowler.
 
Savak said:
Lol Amir in the ILT20 had the keeper stand up to him at the stumps in the final. He was once a 140-148 km/hr bowler.
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Can you share the clip? The keeper was Azam Khan I presume. He can’t stand up to the stumps against pacers.
 
Savak said:
Lol Amir in the ILT20 had the keeper stand up to him at the stumps in the final. He was once a 140-148 km/hr bowler.
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Was the pitch abrasive requiring consistent cutters ?
Amir can still bowl 140 kph at will and it will be evident in this PSL.
 
BouncerGuy said:
It

It does not matter anymore whether he bowls 140 or 150. He is retired and he is history now...
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Yep, the more skills he shows, the more it proves how he wasted his career, first with the fixing thing and then retiring in a huff and refusing to be available for his country's selection.
 
shaz619 said:
He is a Pakistani legend / Hall Of Famer, that’s a fact, playing a pivotal role in two key ICC wins wont ever be forgotten, yes the spot fixing will be mentioned but for me, he made up for that by helping Pakistan win another trophy and also psychologically scarring Indians for decades to come.

We all criticised him for retiring, but he was right when Shaheen & Naseem spend more time on a hospital bed then on a cricket pitch.
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It's hilarious you think taking 3 wickets after team scored 340+, a score never chased in finals in history of CT and world cup is psychologically scarring someone. 250+ has only been chased once ina big final. Even zimbabwe bowlers would have defended that score.

On the contrary it's the opposite, obsession with india and over hype of performance against India is what caused you guys to have inconsistent performance and players in your history. All this hyperbole about average performance is hilarious.

And if this is the criteria of being legends, then twice world cup winning irfan pathan or bowlers like ishant and sreesanth who won multiple cups including world cups must be even bigger legends.
 
Sachin fan said:
Yep, the more skills he shows, the more it proves how he wasted his career, first with the fixing thing and then retiring in a huff and refusing to be available for his country's selection.
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I get the point on the fixing though it’s old news, but Misbah & Waqar were clowns, and you’ve seen how Pak have handled their pacers since Amir got out, moreover their so called pace attack is vastly overrated, Amir is still the best LOI bowler in Pakistan, you saw the spell he bowled against India in the WC compared to the others. Amir is box office to this day, only Pak quick you want to tune in to watch. Pakistan done Amir dirty when he came back, dropped so many of his catches, over-bowled him like no tomorrow, no real plan from management to look after their best pacer and you’ve seen how good the PCB medical panel is, you should look at how you’ve invested in Bumrah and the management of his fitness/load. Amir did well to spot where Pakistan was headed, his peak was much longer than Shaheen’s, if Amir bent the knee for Misbah/Waqar, he would be in a wheel chair right now.
 
shaz619 said:
I get the point on the fixing though it’s old news, but Misbah & Waqar were clowns, and you’ve seen how Pak have handled their pacers since Amir got out, moreover their so called pace attack is vastly overrated, Amir is still the best LOI bowler in Pakistan, you saw the spell he bowled against India in the WC compared to the others. Amir is box office to this day, only Pak quick you want to tune in to watch. Pakistan done Amir dirty when he came back, dropped so many of his catches, over-bowled him like no tomorrow, no real plan from management to look after their best pacer and you’ve seen how good the PCB medical panel is, you should look at how you’ve invested in Bumrah and the management of his fitness/load. Amir did well to spot where Pakistan was headed, his peak was much longer than Shaheen’s, if Amir bent the knee for Misbah/Waqar, he would be in a wheel chair right now.
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Not LOI, only T20. Amir hasn't bowled in an ODI since 2019, and as we saw from the T20 world cup super over against US, he doesn't have the stamina to bowl even a 5th over, let alone 10 overs in a match.

But in T20 he is still head and shoulders above any pakistani bowlers.
 
Sachin fan said:
Not LOI, only T20. Amir hasn't bowled in an ODI since 2019, and as we saw from the T20 world cup super over against UDS, he doesn't have the stamina to bowl even a 5th over, let alone 10 overs in a match.

But in T20 he is still head and shoulders above any pakistani bowlers.
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If there was a sensible plan in place to get him ready for ODI’s, I think he would do a better job then the others, perhaps not peak Amir, but better then them, I would confidently say that. For a tournament like the CT at home which isn’t as lengthy as the WC it could have been a shrewd pick, that entire set-up was a joke but Amir in a well prepared and forward thinking Pakistan team in the CT could have been a lot more competitive.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Amir against Babar is understandable but against SAIM??? LOL
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It's called Competing.

As a Fast bowler you should be charged and pumped up while bowling against top batting talent of the country here in question Saim Ayub.

What's wrong in Old Horse Amir being aggressive and willing to compete against Saim ?

I see nothing wrong and don't see any OTT in this.

Sportsmen with skill should have competing aggressive attitude and match ups are required in healthy competitions. Good for the game.


No more softies needed in Pakistan Cricket.
 
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