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The final of the President's Trophy Grade I 2023-24, set to be played between WAPDA and SNGPL, has been rescheduled and will now take place from 6 to 10 February in Karachi. The venue for the final will be confirmed in due course.

Nadeem Khan - Director Domestic Cricket Operations: “After careful consideration and in the spirit of fairness, we have decided to accommodate the request from one of the finalist teams to reschedule the President Trophy final.

"The return of the departments to domestic cricket has been a welcome change. This tournament has been a success with 21 matches taking place in seven rounds among seven departmental teams. We are confident that the final will also be played with the same competitive spirit and we wish good luck to both the finalists."

Which side do you think will win the trophy?
 
Man that first over from Naseem. What a treat to watch.

Good to see he still has his pace & swing.
 
I still believe he is not 100% fit because he is not bowling the way he usually does. Let's see if he regains his strength back later in the tournament.
 
Bowled a beatiful first 3 overs but he hasn't fully got his rhythm back yet.
 
Its the highlight of clown show that is PCB and Naseem himself. After such a serious injury, how on earth is he playing in the PSL? He is clearly not fit and is already bowling in matches.

Seriously pathetic from all involved here!
 
Looks good, just a bit rusty due to his injury.

I think he will back into full flow within 3-4 months.
 
A bit wayward and inconsistent. But slowly regaining pace and is moving the ball around
 
Bowling after coming back from an injury is never easy. It takes time to et your rhythm back, but both Naseem and PCB should be aware of the fact that if he is not 100 percent fit, he should not play all the games.
But that spell is showing that Naseem has still got it. He can make the ball talk and batters walk. Good to see his spell. Unfortunately, imad dropped the game for me on the very first ball.
 
Bewal Express said:
Looks a little overweight, and the lines are off
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For someone who's supposedly 20, it's shocking to see him put on weight during an injury layoff. Professional athletes should match their caloric intake (quantity + quality) to their activity levels.

As always, have to question how seriously the PCB takes player rehab.
 
Get ready for another career threatening injury soon

Can see it from a mile away
 
Bewal Express said:
Looks a little overweight, and the lines are off
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He looks more bulky to me than he was before the injury. Maybe he has put on some weight.

Naseem Shah before and after injury:

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Monday Morning said:
For someone who's supposedly 20, it's shocking to see him put on weight during an injury layoff. Professional athletes should match their caloric intake (quantity + quality) to their activity levels.

As always, have to question how seriously the PCB takes player rehab.
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Yes, overweight and not fit at all. Just a matter of time before he gets injured. Its such a sad state how things are going within Pak cricket. Naseem is one of the very few bright spots but he himself and PCB have no clue how to bring him back. It makes no sense for him to play back to back matches after such a serious injury!
 
Naseem Shah's pace, coupled with accuracy, is just superb. He is on fire against Quetta Gladiators in PSL 9

Is he the fastest bowler in Pakistan right now?

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Beauty to remove Rutherford

But was nowhere when bowling to Roy.
 
Saw one of Naseem deliveries being up to 146. Great to see getting healthy and back to his form.
 
Naseem strikes for IU, removes the danger man Nawaz in the match against KK today. His final figures 1/29 in 4 overs.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
looking bit fat to me but yeah he is bowling quite well.
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Putting on some weight after an injury is quite normal. You need to be making sure that you're providing your body with all the ingredients to heal fully, while at the same time your activity gets cut quite a bit so by default you'd be in a calorie surplus. He'll lean up the longer he's back inshallah
 
Naseem Shah in a recent interview on why it’s difficult to look for a rest in Pakistan’s cricket culture:

"Well, you generally do not take a break from the team. If any player comes from outside who wasn't part of the playing XI before, if he comes and delivers, then it puts even your main players under pressure, whether we will play the next match or not. So because of this, we don't take rest because if you take rest, then you will Rest In Peace (RIP)."

"We have the culture here if any player decides not to compete in a match or series because of his body condition then others, including some teammates, will start gossiping saying things like 'he does not want to play or isn't interested in playing'. So I think if your team physio or bowling coach predetermines that you will only play 2 or 3 matches in such and such series then that would be appropriate."

"Managing the workload of a bowler is pretty important here as being a human you can't play and travel all the time as your body gets tired and because of stiffness, you get injured. I personally know this because had made these mistakes before. But, unfortunately, we don't have a workload management culture here"
 
Naseem Shah and those beautiful swing deliveries at pace. A treat to watch him bowl. Looks like he has put on some weight but he bowling absolutely fine.
 
Big brother Naseem Shah imparts words of wisdom to Hunain and Ubaid during a pre-match interview:

"I have told them not to feel any pressure from my side. Obviously, I can't expect from them, or the captain can't expect from young players. Being newcomers, it's a big platform for them. They often feel pressured, looking at me after bowling, checking my reaction. Yes, I do share some things with them, advising not to get too excited here. Because these things have happened to me. If you celebrate too much, your body tightens suddenly. So, I think I can tell them the same things based on my experience. As they keep playing, they'll understand more about bowling."
 
Naseem Shah nearly striked in his first over against LQ. Sahibzada Farhan gets the second life, how many wickets could Naseem rattle today? 🤔 Share your thoughts.
 
He used to have an inswinger, but he does not bowl it. I remember the Kusal Mendis dismissal in the Asia Cup final. He needs to keep that in his armory.
 
What are these jokers doing? Getting hit on the leg and keeps batting and running.
Seriously pathetic once again!
 
mominsaigol said:
I always told everyone, naseem shah is the best pace bowler in Pakistan
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Completely agree brother, he also makes every other bowler on the team better with the pressure that he builds. Shaheen Shah’s attacking lines early on work way better when Naseem keeps it extremely tight on the other end.

The good thing about Naseem is he also can bowl at any stage of the game and he possesses lots of skills for the different formats. I just hope he stays healthy.
 
Hope he stays fit and 100 percent. Atm he is bowling well and he is bowling with some special line and length and pace.

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Azhar Mahmood speaking regarding Naseem Shah's injury scare during the Islamabad United vs Lahore Qalandars game:

“As far as Naseem is concerned, he has no injury. He returned to cricket after six months. The T20 format may seem very easy, but when there is pressure on you after four overs, and the way you bowl upfront and at the end, it becomes very difficult for bowlers and requires a lot of effort. In four-day cricket, you get a little more time, but in the T20 format, the margin of error is much smaller. Obviously, having been away for such a long time, it will take him some time to adjust. He has no injury, his body is just not used to this intensity or handling this pressure at the moment. As he continues to play, his performance and fitness will improve.”
 
He looks fabulous at the moment. Bowling outswingers at high pace, that sort of bowling will give trouble to anyone. Looks like his confidence has grown as he's matured. Very exciting bowler right now.
 
Is he injured again? Islamabad have rested him in their must win game
 
Naseem Shah after coming back from the injury sets the pitch on fire as the season's most economical powerplay bowler so far.

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So, Naseem/Hasan/Shaheen will be the World T20 attack for Pakistan I guess based on their numbers. Mohammad Ali may have had an outside chance but the rest of the seamers look very ordinary in PSL.

I guess Mo. Ali can be in the squad as back up seamer
 
Nikhil_cric said:
So, Naseem/Hasan/Shaheen will be the World T20 attack for Pakistan I guess based on their numbers. Mohammad Ali may have had an outside chance but the rest of the seamers look very ordinary in PSL.

I guess Mo. Ali can be in the squad as back up seamer
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Dont think Hasan Ali will be there..
 
Shah fined just for a simple tantrum anomaly
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Islamabad United’s Naseem Shah has been fined 10 per cent of match fee for a level 1 breach of the HBL PSL’s Code of Conduct for Players and Player Support Personnel during his side’s HBL PSL 9 fixture against Multan Sultans at the Pindi Cricket Stadium in Rawalpindi on Sunday.

Naseem was charged for violating Article 2.2 that deals with abuse of cricket equipment or clothing, ground equipment or fixtures and fittings. Naseem had kicked the stumps after the final ball of Multan Sultans’ innings.

Since Naseem pleaded guilty to the charge and accepted the sanctions proposed by match referee Roshan Mahanama, there was no need of a formal hearing.

The charge was imposed by on-field umpires Ruchira Palliyaguruge and Muhammad Asif.

Meanwhile, in a separate incident in the same match, Multan Sultans were fined for maintaining a slow over-rate.

Sultans were ruled to be one over short of their target by match referee Roshan Mahanama, who took into consideration time allowances before arriving at the decision.

As such, and in accordance with Article 2.22 of the HBL PSL Code of Conduct for Players and Player Support Personnel, each player was fined 10 per cent of his match fee.

Source: PCB
 
What a start by naseem shah... took jason roy on his very first ball of his spell.

A perfect away swinger on a perfect length!
 
His acting in the field was annoying. You would think someone shot him every time he dived. Taking notes from Rizwan?
 
shah_1 said:
Best pakistan bowler by far
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He will never be better than Shaheen because he doesn’t have half of his wicket taking ability.

Shaheen ends up taking as many wickets or even more wickets even when he is bowling poorly.

Even in this PSL, Shaheen has been criticized for bowling poorly and Naseem has been praised for bowling well, but their numbers are very similar.
 
Mamoon said:
He will never be better than Shaheen because he doesn’t have half of his wicket taking ability.

Shaheen ends up taking as many wickets or even more wickets even when he is bowling poorly.

Even in this PSL, Shaheen has been criticized for bowling poorly and Naseem has been praised for bowling well, but their numbers are very similar.
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Not quite. Naseem's averages and economy rate stand at 20.5 and 7.7, respectively, whereas Shaheen's figures are 22.1 and 8.6. Additionally, Naseem is returning from an injury, which inevitably impacts his statistics. T20 happens to be his weakest format, or at least the second weakest depending on perspective.

Considering all these factors, it's fair to conclude that Naseem has performed pretty well this season.
 
Hextro said:
Not quite. Naseem's averages and economy rates stand at 20.5 and 7.7, respectively, whereas Shaheen's figures are 22.1 and 8.6. Additionally, Naseem is returning from an injury, which inevitably impacts his statistics. T20 happens to be his weakest format, or at least the second weakest depending on perspective.

Considering all these factors, it's fair to conclude that Naseem has performed pretty well this season.
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That is my point. His numbers are slightly better but very similar and when you look at those numbers, you wouldn’t know that one of those bowlers has been bashed all season for bowling rubbish while the other bowler has been praised left right & center for bowling really well.

If Naseem has been the best Pakistani pacer in this tournament and Shaheen has been awful, then Naseem should have many more wickets than him and their average/strike rate shouldn’t be within 1-2 point range.

I don’t know what his best or worst format is to be honest, but his 50+ international matches show that he does have a problem with taking wickets, at least in two out of three formats.

Shaheen has a really special knack of taking wickets even when he is not bowling well. He just seems to find a way especially with the new ball. Shaheen’s first over is a story in itself.

I don’t think Naseem has done anything in his career so far to be rated higher than Shaheen. They are the same age and we will see how they fare over the next few years but as of now, looking at their body of work, Shaheen has clearly been far better.

Naseem has done nothing in his career so far to dethrone Shaheen as Pakistan’s best bowler. Shaheen’s spell vs India in the T20 World Cup 2021 alone is bigger than Naseem’s entire career so far.

If Naseem proves to be a better bowler and has a better career from this point onwards, so be it, but so far, it is disrespectful to Shaheen to consider Naseem better based on their international and PSL careers so far.
 
Mamoon said:
That is my point. His numbers are slightly better but very similar and when you look at those numbers, you wouldn’t know that one of those bowlers has been bashed all season for bowling rubbish while the other bowler has been praised left right & center for bowling really well.

If Naseem has been the best Pakistani pacer in this tournament and Shaheen has been awful, then Naseem should have many more wickets than him and their average/strike rate shouldn’t be within 1-2 point range.

I don’t know what his best or worst format is to be honest, but his 50+ international matches show that he does have a problem with taking wickets, at least in two out of three formats.

Shaheen has a really special knack of taking wickets even when he is not bowling well. He just seems to find a way especially with the new ball. Shaheen’s first over is a story in itself.

I don’t think Naseem has done anything in his career so far to be rated higher than Shaheen. They are the same age and we will see how they fare over the next few years but as of now, looking at their body of work, Shaheen has clearly been far better.

Naseem has done nothing in his career so far to dethrone Shaheen as Pakistan’s best bowler. Shaheen’s spell vs India in the T20 World Cup 2021 alone is bigger than Naseem’s entire career so far.

If Naseem proves to be a better bowler and has a better career from this point onwards, so be it, but so far, it is disrespectful to Shaheen to consider Naseem better based on their international and PSL careers so far.
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both are different bowlers.

Shaheen can bowl well in the opening spell with the new ball, but he is garbage bowler at death and during the middle overs he sometimes does deliver.

Naseem on the other hand is not a wicket taker, but he creates enough pressure that if shaheen is bowling from the other end he compliments that bowler well. Naseem is effective when the bowler from the other end is wicket taking one, because while Naseem doesnt take wickets, him bowling outside the line allows him to trouble the batter and become defensive against him.

Naseem is not a strike bowler, but a supporting bowler, but he for him to be supportive the bowler from the other end needs to be as good.

However, in the death overs, Naseem does play a crucial role as he reducing the runs and ball margin helps
 
Naseem shah's post-injury start has been good overall. He has been bowling tight lines and his length is also spot on. Bowling most dot balls in the powerplay in t20s in no joke.
 
Major said:
both are different bowlers.

Shaheen can bowl well in the opening spell with the new ball, but he is garbage bowler at death and during the middle overs he sometimes does deliver.

Naseem on the other hand is not a wicket taker, but he creates enough pressure that if shaheen is bowling from the other end he compliments that bowler well. Naseem is effective when the bowler from the other end is wicket taking one, because while Naseem doesnt take wickets, him bowling outside the line allows him to trouble the batter and become defensive against him.

Naseem is not a strike bowler, but a supporting bowler, but he for him to be supportive the bowler from the other end needs to be as good.

However, in the death overs, Naseem does play a crucial role as he reducing the runs and ball margin helps
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If Naseem is not a wicket taker and a strike bowler and is just a support role, then there is no need of hyping him to the moon and calling him the best Pakistani fast bowler and a superstar in the making and what not.

If he is not a wicket taker and just a support bowler in spite of all the hype, praise and support that is getting from PCB and the fans, he should be ashamed of himself.
 
Hextro said:
Not quite. Naseem's averages and economy rate stand at 20.5 and 7.7, respectively, whereas Shaheen's figures are 22.1 and 8.6. Additionally, Naseem is returning from an injury, which inevitably impacts his statistics. T20 happens to be his weakest format, or at least the second weakest depending on perspective.

Considering all these factors, it's fair to conclude that Naseem has performed pretty well this season.
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You are wasting your time. The people have written of Shah years ago and now have to justify his position by sticking to their guns, even if Naseem may have matured as a bowler and displays genuine talent. It is self confessed hatred of Pakistan and it is perhaps unreasonable to expect a balanced viewpoint.
 
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Mamoon said:
If Naseem is not a wicket taker and a strike bowler and is just a support role, then there is no need of hyping him to the moon and calling him the best Pakistani fast bowler and a superstar in the making and what not.

If he is not a wicket taker and just a support bowler in spite of all the hype, praise and support that is getting from PCB and the fans, he should be ashamed of himself.
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He is the second-highest wicket-taker among fast bowlers this season, with nearly half of his dismissals comprising top-order batsmen (1-3). A glance at the scorecards reveals that he rarely farms tail-ender wickets. In fact, this rarity may be why some criticize his supposed 'lack of wicket-taking ability', disregarding the fact that he has secured at least one dismissal in every match he has played this season.

He has done pretty well given his circumstances.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Naseem shah's post-injury start has been good overall. He has been bowling tight lines and his length is also spot on. Bowling most dot balls in the powerplay in t20s in no joke.
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He's consistently bowling outswingers with the new ball at high pace with a disciplined line and length as you have already said. In a longer format with two or three slips in place, that is a formula for doing damage to a top order.
 
Mamoon just admit for once you are wrong about Naseem. All the cricket pundits rate him highly, how many bowlers can swing it at pace like him and control the new ball?
 
pakistani pride said:
Mamoon just admit for once you are wrong about Naseem. All the cricket pundits rate him highly, how many bowlers can swing it at pace like him and control the new ball?
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He'll never admit it. No point wasting your energy. He will keep doing mental gymnastics and finding self-serving arguments. But that's okay because he can be just reminded of how wrong he is here whenever Naseem proves him wrong.
 
pakistani pride said:
Mamoon just admit for once you are wrong about Naseem. All the cricket pundits rate him highly, how many bowlers can swing it at pace like him and control the new ball?
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Whatever he does or doesn’t do has produced no results for Pakistan so I don’t see any reason to rate him highly until he actually does something.

As I said before, Shaheen’s performance vs India in the 2021 T20 World Cup alone is bigger than Naseem’s entire career so far.

I see no reason to wax lyrical about a bowler who averages 33 in Test cricket including 51 vs New Zealand, 50 vs England and 34 vs Australia, and has taken only 15 wickets in 19 T20Is which is awful for a so-called super talent who swing and control the ball at pace.

The only format that he has done well is in ODIs, but when you look at his overall performances and output in international cricket across all formats, they don’t match his hype and reputation.
 
Hextro said:
He is the second-highest wicket-taker among fast bowlers this season, with nearly half of his dismissals comprising top-order batsmen (1-3). A glance at the scorecards reveals that he rarely farms tail-ender wickets. In fact, this rarity may be why some criticize his supposed 'lack of wicket-taking ability', disregarding the fact that he has secured at least one dismissal in every match he has played this season.

He has done pretty well given his circumstances.
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There should be a bigger disparity between his average, SR and wickets tally compared to Shaheen considered that he has apparently bowled superbly while Shaheen has been apparently terrible.

I don’t know why some people have a problem with the assessment that Shaheen is a clearly superior bowler. I mean that should be the logical assertion anyway when you look when you at their careers so far.
 
Mamoon said:
There should be a bigger disparity between his average, SR and wickets tally compared to Shaheen considered that he has apparently bowled superbly while Shaheen has been apparently terrible.

I don’t know why some people have a problem with the assessment that Shaheen is a clearly superior bowler. I mean that should be the logical assertion anyway when you look when you at their careers so far.
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Shaheen naturally draws more attention due to his impressive track record, setting a higher bar for appreciation. On the other hand, Naseem benefits from various factors, notably his return from injury, as I mentioned in a previous reply.

Moreover, there's a notable contrast in their economy rates this season. Having observed both Naseem and Shaheen bowl, Naseem appears more menacing with the new and old ball, a sentiment supported by visual analysis and statistical comparisons.

It's high time we acknowledge Naseem's contributions properly. He's no longer just another average bowler; he deserves his fair share of recognition.
 
Hextro said:
Shaheen naturally draws more attention due to his impressive track record, setting a higher bar for appreciation. On the other hand, Naseem benefits from various factors, notably his return from injury, as I mentioned in a previous reply.

Moreover, there's a notable contrast in their economy rates this season. Having observed both Naseem and Shaheen bowl, Naseem appears more menacing with the new and old ball, a sentiment supported by visual analysis and statistical comparisons.

It's high time we acknowledge Naseem's contributions properly. He's no longer just another average bowler; he deserves his fair share of recognition.
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Not to mention Shaheen is clearly on a downward decline over the last 12 months while Naseem's arc is upwards. Shaheen is still potentially a better bowler, but not when he can't control his line. This is a pointless argument because we are using stats which include Shaheen at his prime and Naseem when he was very raw.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Not to mention Shaheen is clearly on a downward decline over the last 12 months while Naseem's arc is upwards. Shaheen is still potentially a better bowler, but not when he can't control his line. This is a pointless argument because we are using stats which include Shaheen at his prime and Naseem when he was very raw.
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Shaheen and Naseem are of the same age. How come Shaheen was in his prime when Naseem was raw? The only logical explanation is that Shaheen is simply more talented than Naseem.
 
Hextro said:
Shaheen naturally draws more attention due to his impressive track record, setting a higher bar for appreciation. On the other hand, Naseem benefits from various factors, notably his return from injury, as I mentioned in a previous reply.

Moreover, there's a notable contrast in their economy rates this season. Having observed both Naseem and Shaheen bowl, Naseem appears more menacing with the new and old ball, a sentiment supported by visual analysis and statistical comparisons.

It's high time we acknowledge Naseem's contributions properly. He's no longer just another average bowler; he deserves his fair share of recognition.
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Naseem will be acknowledged when he actually achieves something and his fans wouldn’t need to demand acknowledgment. It will happen naturally.

If Naseem produces a match winning performance in a big match like Shaheen has, that acknowledgment will come naturally.

However, so far, it has not happened for Naseem and he has been all hype and potential. There have been multiple instances in big games where he has found himself in situations where he could have influenced the outcome of the match by taking wickets but he failed to do so.

Naseem has done nothing in his career so far that can compare to, let’s say, Shaheen’s match-winning spell v India in Dubai. When he does something like that, he will be acknowledged.
 
Mamoon said:
Naseem will be acknowledged when he actually achieves something and his fans wouldn’t need to demand acknowledgment. It will happen naturally.

If Naseem produces a match winning performance in a big match like Shaheen has, that acknowledgment will come naturally.

However, so far, it has not happened for Naseem and he has been all hype and potential. There have been multiple instances in big games where he has found himself in situations where he could have influenced the outcome of the match by taking wickets but he failed to do so.

Naseem has done nothing in his career so far that can compare to, let’s say, Shaheen’s match-winning spell v India in Dubai. When he does something like that, he will be acknowledged.
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We're focusing on the present, not dwelling on the past. Since Shaheen's return from injury, he hasn't displayed the same level of performance as before. In response to your question about why Naseem has garnered more recognition than Shaheen, I simply highlighted the relevant factors. Naseem is clearly demonstrating signs of improvement, and that is naturally leading to increased momentum behind his hype. This stands in contrast to Shaheen, who, unfortunately, appears to have stagnated and may have even experienced a slight decline from his usual standards.

International performances aren't under discussion because Naseem hasn't had the opportunity to play at that level since his recovery. When he resumes international play, we can delve deeper into his impact and compare it with Shaheen's. As this thread centers around Naseem's recovery, let's primarily focus on that aspect.
 
I believe he has put on some weight and his average pace has decreased since his comeback.
 
Mamoon said:
Whatever he does or doesn’t do has produced no results for Pakistan so I don’t see any reason to rate him highly until he actually does something.

As I said before, Shaheen’s performance vs India in the 2021 T20 World Cup alone is bigger than Naseem’s entire career so far.

I see no reason to wax lyrical about a bowler who averages 33 in Test cricket including 51 vs New Zealand, 50 vs England and 34 vs Australia, and has taken only 15 wickets in 19 T20Is which is awful for a so-called super talent who swing and control the ball at pace.

The only format that he has done well is in ODIs, but when you look at his overall performances and output in international cricket across all formats, they don’t match his hype and reputation.
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Babar hasn't produced any results for Pakistan either but you rate him highly, why the double standards?
 
The Aaron Ramsey of cricket, every time the ball goes to him he struggles to get back up, or he’s just another Ahmad Shahzad.
 
LegendAli said:
Babar hasn't produced any results for Pakistan either but you rate him highly, why the double standards?
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What nonsense is this? What double standards?

How can you even compare the two - check Babar’s record across all formats and the number of centuries that he has scored.

Naseem hasn’t achieved 1% of what Babar has achieved in international cricket. Babar’s century vs New Zealand in the 2019 World Cup and his innings vs India in the T20 World Cup are bigger than Naseem’s entire career.

Don’t disrespect Babar and his achievements for Pakistan by comparing him to random nobodies who are all hype and no show.
 
Another overhyped, fragile mental midget. He has done all he could to bottle the final and help Multan win, but Multan is on a third successive bottling mission.
 
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