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Muhammad Saad said:
Exactly he is a combination of Sharjeel khan and Nasir Jamshed and is extremely good against short pitch stuff even against Dahani who is a consistent high 130ks bowler, I seriously wonder why he is not averaging even 20 in both FC and List A formats but he is definitely seems international material and if he performs well in this tournament then he should be a part of Shaheen tours.

May be his technique is not good on underprepared pitches in FC hence he is averging 17 even after 14 innings but on flat track he is an absolute beast.
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It's early in his career, with experience he could become the next Saharjeel.
 
Jahanzeb is like Zazai of Afghanistan, but these type of players require license to play natural game, would have easily been drop in association setup, but since teams are selected by PCB, he has been persisted with.
 
u0sama said:
Looks like a good four day bowler, pitch is flat
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We need bowlers who can consistently bowl in 137-142k range and get good bounce and some decent movement on flat tracks in home tests matches because we will never prepare underprepared minefield of a pitch in Home Test so these type of trundles are of no use unless we really prepare green underprepared pitches which actually not a bad idea as our domestic batters are used to these pitches and will do just fine even against international bowlers.
 
Muhammad Saad said:
Exactly he is a combination of Sharjeel khan and Nasir Jamshed and is extremely good against short pitch stuff even against Dahani who is a consistent high 130ks bowler, I seriously wonder why he is not averaging even 20 in both FC and List A formats but he is definitely seems international material and if he performs well in this tournament then he should be a part of Shaheen tours.

May be his technique is not good on underprepared pitches in FC hence he is averging 17 even after 14 innings but on flat track he is an absolute beast.
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Still young I presume. He might go on to do well on bouncy wickets
 
Sahibzada Farhan shines with century as Peshawar secures victory

Sahibzada Farhan’s unbeaten century powered Peshawar to a dominant win in their opening match of the Bank Alfalah Presents Inverex Solar Energy National T20 Cup 2024-25 at the Iqbal Stadium, Faisalabad, on Saturday night.

Karachi Blues Outclass Larkana In the second match of the night, Karachi Blues cruised to victory, relying on an unbeaten 142-run opening partnership between Abdullah Fazal and Jahanzaib Sultan to dismantle Larkana.

Peshawar Region vs Lahore Region Whites Chasing a target of 182, Peshawar completed the chase with eight balls to spare. Sahibzada Farhan led from the front with a stunning 114 not out off 59 balls, smashing nine fours and as many sixes—his highest T20 score. Partnering with Maaz Sadaqat (37 off 38 balls, 5 fours), they forged a 129-run opening stand to seal the game. Skipper Iftikhar Ahmed contributed 19 off 12 before departing at 152-2. Lahore Whites’ bowlers Mohammad Rameez Jnr and Ubaid Shah claimed one wicket each.

Earlier, Lahore Whites were boosted by an unbeaten 85-run fourth-wicket partnership between Tayyab Tahir and Saad Nasim after being 96-3. Tayyab scored 66 not out off 46 balls (7 fours, 1 six), while Saad remained unbeaten on 41 off 31 balls (1 four, 3 sixes).

Karachi Region Blues vs Larkana Region Karachi Blues claimed a comprehensive 10-wicket win over Larkana, chasing a 142-run target in just 14 overs. Jahanzaib Sultan top-scored with 79 not out off 43 balls, hitting six fours and five sixes. Abdullah Fazal provided solid support with 61 not out off 41 balls, smashing four fours and three sixes.

Earlier, Larkana struggled after slipping to 85-5 but managed 141-7, thanks to Sabit Ali’s 30 off 22 balls. Karachi Blues bowlers Rameez Aziz and Bahadur Ali took two wickets each, with Mohammad Asghar, Aarish Ali Khan, and Mohammad Hamza chipping in with one wicket apiece.

Scores in Brief:
  • Match 3: Peshawar Region beat Lahore Region Whites by eight wickets at Iqbal Stadium, Faisalabad
    • Lahore Whites: 181-3 in 20 overs (Tayyab Tahir 66, Saad Nasim 41, Mohammad Saleem 25; Niaz Khan 1-31)
    • Peshawar: 182-2 in 18.4 overs (Sahibzada Farhan 114*, Maaz Sadaqat 37; Mohammad Rameez Jnr 1-15)
    • Player of the Match: Sahibzada Farhan (Peshawar Region)
  • Match 4: Karachi Region Blues beat Larkana Region by 10 wickets at Iqbal Stadium, Faisalabad
    • Larkana: 141-7 in 20 overs (Sabit Ali 30, Ghulam Raza 20, Shahzaib Aziz 20; Rameez Aziz 2-20, Bahadur Ali 2-38)
    • Karachi Blues: 142-0 in 14 overs (Jahanzaib Sultan 79, Abdullah Fazal 61)
    • Player of the Match: Jahanzaib Sultan (Karachi Region Blues)
Sunday’s Fixtures:
  • Lahore Region Blues vs Bahawalpur Region (Iqbal Stadium, Faisalabad) at 7 PM
  • Rawalpindi Region vs Abbottabad Region (Multan Cricket Stadium) at 4:30 PM
  • Faisalabad Region vs Hyderabad Region (Multan Cricket Stadium) at 8:45 PM
  • Karachi Region Whites vs Dera Murad Jamali Region (Iqbal Stadium, Faisalabad) at 11:15 PM
 
The gap between domestic and International cricket is at all time high that the super stars of this tournament will look like tail Enders in international cricket,
 
Muhammad Saad said:
We need bowlers who can consistently bowl in 137-142k range and get good bounce and some decent movement on flat tracks in home tests matches because we will never prepare underprepared minefield of a pitch in Home Test so these type of trundles are of no use unless we really prepare green underprepared pitches which actually not a bad idea as our domestic batters are used to these pitches and will do just fine even against international bowlers.
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How was Salman pace I know this will not be a format for him atleast not year but I am hoping he is hitting 130-135 consistently which is good for long format bowling I just hope he’s not Abbas in terms of pace
 
National T20 2025:

Toss delayed between Rawalpindi and Abbottabad due to wet outfield at Multan Cricket Stadium, Multan
 
MATCH 6 - Lahore Blues vs Bahawalpur

Toss - Bahawalpur won the toss and elected to bat first

Lahore Blues Playing XI: Imran Butt, Hammad Butt, Mohammad Arsalan, Umar Siddiq, Junaid Ali ( wk ), Hussain Talat ( c ), Qasim Akram, Mohammad Irfan, Nisar Ahmad, Salman Mirza, Mohammad Rizwan

Bahawalpur Playing XI: Aun Shehzad, Mohammad Sudais, Faizan Zafar, Mohammad Sheharyar, Mohammad Ammar, Hasnain Majid ( wk ), Mohammad Imran Randhawa ( c ), Mohammad Junaid, Salahuddin, Mohammad Azab, Imran Khan
 
Loving this bowling by Salman

Pakistan continue to produce decent bowlers.
 
Rana said:
Loving this bowling by Salman

Pakistan continue to produce decent bowlers.
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At this level a lot of these players look really good but when they are exposed against quality opposition in international cricket they usually don't perform well.
 
Bahawalpur 33/3 at the end of powerplay. Good start for Lahore Blues here.
 
This is the 600th match of the National T20 Cup history.

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Hopefully the Hyderabad and Faisalabad match is televised

Looking forward to Sharjeel and Asif Ali playing
 
Bahawalpur all out at 97. Lahore Blues should chase down this target of 98 runs easily.

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hassan918 said:
Bahawalpur all out at 97. Lahore Blues should chase down this target of 98 runs easily.

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Tribute to Pakistan

They scored this much in 7 overs last time

Might as well just play like their 7 over approach
 
Abbottabad beat Rawalpindi by 7 wickets.

Rawalpindi 104 all out (18.3 overs)
Abbottabad 105/3 (13.1 overs)
 
Hyderabad have won the toss and are Bowling first against Faisalabad.

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Following are the playing XIs.

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Exhibition of poor fielding in the National T20 continues (Bhawalpur vs Lahore Blues)

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Karachi drop Khwaja Nafay so Shan Masood can open.

Are you happy now @gazza619 ??? You want guys who have an ample amount of red ball cricket experience to play this format. Well here you have it!
 
Rana said:
Karachi drop Khwaja Nafay so Shan Masood can open.

Are you happy now @gazza619 ??? You want guys who have an ample amount of red ball cricket experience to play this format. Well here you have it!
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Once again you are missing my point.

If there are any decent T20 batters with potential, they must sweat in domestic first class cricket for 2-3 years first before even thinking about playing for Pakistan.
 
gazza619 said:
Once again you are missing my point.

If there are any decent T20 batters with potential, they must sweat in domestic first class cricket for 2-3 years first before even thinking about playing for Pakistan.
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But what do you do until then???? You keep playing crap players in your T20 side and keep the rubbish going as it was???
 
Imran Butts feet movement in today's game was very impressive. Some quality stroke play.
 
The standards of play in this tournament are beyond pathetic. It's comical there are so many teams and most of these players are simply not standards. So many players look unfit and so many are random old no name players with no future. A lot of these players can't even take regulation catches.

All PCB is doing is wasting money by hosting tournaments with so many teams and players that don't deserve it. Really feels like they are praying for some miracle that out of the quantity of players they randomly discover some high end talent instead of putting time, money & resources to actually work on developing players and their skills.
 
Big bombs by Shan Masood boy! Clean striking!

Tbf he was saved by the umpire first ball
 
Rana said:
But what do you do until then???? You keep playing crap players in your T20 side and keep the rubbish going as it was???
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Its a cycle. You don’t break the cycle just because of your personal hate for certain players
 
gazza619 said:
Its a cycle. You don’t break the cycle just because of your personal hate for certain players
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You criticise Saqlain Mushtaq for speaking in gibberish but what are you doing right now?

I’ve asked you to name the players who play right now? In accordance with your ‘cycle’ or formula. What should have been the team??
 
Even though the overall standard of the tournament is poor but there are plenty of younger players discovered with good potential , bowlers like Saqib, Shahid , Salman and Azab have good pace and swing as well and this new spinner Rasool Buksh can spin the ball both ways and have very deceptive Googly and Arish Khan spins it huge , and some good young batters who can hit cleanly and looks elegant on these low bounce pitches ,
 
Haroon Arshad also have improved alot from
Being utterly mediocre to being someone who at least belongs to FC level.
 
Talent is definitely there in Pak and I seriously don’t know why these young players are not getting selected for PSL as they are clearly better than the ones playing PSL for years.
 
There is no talent left in Pakistan is clearly bs , the new talent not getting in to 4 day domestic teams where they develop their game is the real issue here.
 
however the established U21 players in domestic cricket are clearly not as talented compare to these younger unknown players in both performance wise and eye for talent test in this ongoing tournament.
 
Rana said:
You criticise Saqlain Mushtaq for speaking in gibberish but what are you doing right now?

I’ve asked you to name the players who play right now? In accordance with your ‘cycle’ or formula. What should have been the team??
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You play the best available players at any given time. If this is gibberish to you then I can’t help.
 
gazza619 said:
Sharjeel Khan (vc), Asif Ali (c) & Azam Khan (wk).
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Why are you so scared to name your XI? Think of it as naming the ingredients/sauces you wish to have in your kebabs when placing an order.
 
Rana said:
Why are you so scared to name your XI? Think of it as naming the ingredients/sauces you wish to have in your kebabs when placing an order.
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Well I don’t get paid to select players. Neither do I have the time. I can tell you what my criteria would be to select a batter for T20s based on existing talent pool in Pakistan.

FC record: 25 games at a minimum batting average of 30.

T20 record: 50 games at a minimum batting average of 25. Minimum strike rate of 125-130.

I will simply not select any kachras who have higher strike rates but averaging only 10-15 with the bat.
 
gazza619 said:
Well I don’t get paid to select players. Neither do I have the time. I can tell you what my criteria would be to select a batter for T20s based on existing talent pool in Pakistan.

FC record: 25 games at a minimum batting average of 30.

T20 record: 50 games at a minimum batting average of 25. Minimum strike rate of 125-130.

I will simply not select any kachras who have higher strike rates but averaging only 10-15 with the bat.
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I’m not convinced your mode of method will produce a proper ODI side for Pakistan let alone a T20 side.

Your cricket views are seriously outdated in afraid. This stuff was ok in 2007,

We are in the year 2025.
 
Rana said:
I’m not convinced your mode of method will produce a proper ODI side for Pakistan let alone a T20 side.

Your cricket views are seriously outdated in afraid. This stuff was ok in 2007,

We are in the year 2025.
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And your mode of method of playing every batter at a strike rate of 140+ and average of 15 will indeed make us world beaters.
 
gazza619 said:
And your mode of method of playing every batter at a strike rate of 140+ and average of 15 will indeed make us world beaters.
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Pakistan have been applying your confused model to some extent in the past 5 years. What has it resulted in besides setting Pakistan cricket back to the 90s?
 
Rana said:
Karachi drop Khwaja Nafay so Shan Masood can open.

Are you happy now @gazza619 ??? You want guys who have an ample amount of red ball cricket experience to play this format. Well here you have it!
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Khurram and Shan being chosen over Khawaja highlights the unfortunate state of the PCB.
 
gazza619 said:
Well I don’t get paid to select players. Neither do I have the time. I can tell you what my criteria would be to select a batter for T20s based on existing talent pool in Pakistan.

FC record: 25 games at a minimum batting average of 30.

T20 record: 50 games at a minimum batting average of 25. Minimum strike rate of 125-130.

I will simply not select any kachras who have higher strike rates but averaging only 10-15 with the bat.
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Your criteria is 25 FC games with a 30 batting avg and 50 t20 games with a 125 SR for selection 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

The test team is guaranteed to end at the bottom of wtc cycle followed by the t20 team playing against USA but this time in qualifiers and not the actual tournament.

What kind of selection criteria is this?

10-15 avg and 140-160 SR vs 25 avg, and 125 SR?

So one scores 10 of 4 balls or 15 of 6 while the other scores 25 of 20? Their the same thing 🤣🤣, both teams will be bundled out for 90 smh.
 
Muhammad Saad said:
Talent is definitely there in Pak and I seriously don’t know why these young players are not getting selected for PSL as they are clearly better than the ones playing PSL for years.
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Because they are rubbish. There hasn't been any player who has caught the eye. All the ones you mentioned is your previous posts are all poor players.
 
mominsaigol said:
Your criteria is 25 FC games with a 30 batting avg and 50 t20 games with a 125 SR for selection 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

The test team is guaranteed to end at the bottom of wtc cycle followed by the t20 team playing against USA but this time in qualifiers and not the actual tournament.

What kind of selection criteria is this?

10-15 avg and 140-160 SR vs 25 avg, and 125 SR?

So one scores 10 of 4 balls or 15 of 6 while the other scores 25 of 20? Their the same thing 🤣🤣, both teams will be bundled out for 90 smh.
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With the vast amount of talent available to India, Australia, England or South Africa….is this the criteria they are applying when picking their T20 sides?

I mean why should we be the only team using this criteria of 120 sr after 50 t20s? Like, what is our crime as a cricket nation to suffer this kind of punishment?
 
Muhammad Saad said:
Haroon Arshad also have improved alot from
Being utterly mediocre to being someone who at least belongs to FC level.
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Yes by hitting a couple of boundaries against dera Murad jamli. Seriously is this the benchmark? This parchi can't play more than 115kph and was getting selected due to his friend Saad who is equally poor.
 
mango_bite77 said:
Khurram and Shan being chosen over Khawaja highlights the unfortunate state of the PCB.
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They were having a serious issue because Kaptaan Saud wants to go the RizBar route and open the innings at all cost…and then he has the issue of two seasoned attacking openers between Nafay and Khurram…so he had to slot one of them at 3…

That meant the Test captain of Pakistan (his senior) had to bat at 4, and Shan was terrible here because he’s not getting the chance for the free headstart you can get as an opener or in the powerplay.

Hence Khwaja Nafay became the easy fall guy to accommodate Shan in the top order especially after Khurram was ok in the last match.

When Saud won the 6 team T20 cup with Sindh, he was batting at 4, and he was more than decent in this position. Their top 4 was,

1. Saim
2. Sharjeel
3. Omair Bin Yousuf
4. Saud (c)

He can do the same here as well.
 
Rana said:
They were having a serious issue because Kaptaan Saud wants to go the RizBar route and open the innings at all cost…and then he has the issue of two seasoned attacking openers between Nafay and Khurram…so he had to slot one of them at 3…

That meant the Test captain of Pakistan (his senior) had to bat at 4, and Shan was terrible here because he’s not getting the chance for the free headstart you can get as an opener or in the powerplay.

Hence Khwaja Nafay became the easy fall guy to accommodate Shan in the top order especially after Khurram was ok in the last match.

When Saud won the 6 team T20 cup with Sindh, he was batting at 4, and he was more than decent in this position. Their top 4 was,

1. Saim
2. Sharjeel
3. Omair Bin Yousuf
4. Saud (c)

He can do the same here as well.
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I can understand about Khurram who doesn't play international cricket and wants to earn some money. But what is the point of Shan playing this tournament when he knows he would never feature in this format for Pakistan. Ideally his focus should be on longer format to polish his skills considering his age being higher than his batting average in test.
 
mominsaigol said:
Your criteria is 25 FC games with a 30 batting avg and 50 t20 games with a 125 SR for selection 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

The test team is guaranteed to end at the bottom of wtc cycle followed by the t20 team playing against USA but this time in qualifiers and not the actual tournament.

What kind of selection criteria is this?

10-15 avg and 140-160 SR vs 25 avg, and 125 SR?

So one scores 10 of 4 balls or 15 of 6 while the other scores 25 of 20? Their the same thing 🤣🤣, both teams will be bundled out for 90 smh.
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It seems like you are satisfied with 90 all out.
 

Today's Fixtures (17-03-2025)​

FATA vs AJK
Karachi B vs Quetta
Multan vs Sialkot
Lahore W vs Larkana
 
Rana said:
Sharjeel at the back end of his career batting like RizBar at their peak
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Sharjeel Khan is > any era babar and rizwan in t20.

In odi babar at peak is > him. Although their roles were different. Sharjeel was an opener and his task was to provide an amazing start in powerplay while babar was to stabilise and bat through.

Similar to Travis head vs Prime Steve smith. Prime smith in odi is better, but head is defo more dangerous then any era smith.

Sharjeel > Any era rizwan though. It still baffles me why pakistani fans put rizwan on a high pedestal tbh.

Rizwan hype i never understood to this day. Babar hype i can understand, can't understand rizzu hype. He's a very bang avg batsmen, who gets the best wicket keeping batter tag but his competition isn't gilly, Sanga or Dhoni 😭😭.

Every country has produced atleast one better keeper then pakistan, Zimbabwe included as they produced brendon Taylor
 
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