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Ashwin didn't merit a place in team ahead of either Jadeja or Thakur as far as these conditions are concerned.
Correct. He merited a place ahead of Umesh Yadav.
Nasser already mentioned on the first day that the grass is dry underneath and so the pitch will spin later in the test.
Ashwin didn't merit a place in team ahead of either Jadeja or Thakur as far as these conditions are concerned.
At 37, he is. In cricketing/sports world.He looks older these days.
Ashwin might look innocuous, that's were his strength comes from. He is not a raging turner of the cricket ball like Murali or any of the great offies before him. But he does have a sharp cricketing brain and very good accuracy to bowl ball after ball in block hole (in particularly Very good against Left handers).
Luckily he is by far the best bowler to have a well disguised Carom ball in India (Even Bhajji, the Indian media's darling can't do that). He won the bowler of the tournament in Champions league held at South Africa for very good reasons. He's been leading the wickets pack in Indian Domestic scene for the good part of last 3 years. He is no mug with the bat either, and can do a decent enough job at the lower order.
In whatever little opportunities that Ashwin has got, he has proven his worth as a team player and as a captain's bowler. So I would say don't write him off so early. I can assure you he is no chawla or bhajji, Ashwin is very different.
I really hope and pray that he proves many of his fans back home here in Tamilnadu (and rest of the India) right (if only MSD could give him an opportunity) about his skill/ability.
Just revisiting some of my earlier comments of Ashwin from 2011 herein PP (from the first page of this very thread, quoting only a few).IMO, he is no way over-rated but more of under-rated even to our Indian standards (remember we usually hype up our bowling talent in a big way only to end up seeing them flopping big time after few initial good games)
I have mentioned this before and I will repeat it again, he is no Mendis. Yes, Ashwin does possess Carrom Ball but his action is far too different from Mendis in every possible way. Besides carrom ball Ashwin has one of the best Arm balls for Left handers. He always almost strangles left handers from scoring quick runs resulting in taking their wicket either bowled or LBW.
IMHO, ASHWIN gonna be the future spearhead of India's spin attack
Your prediction about left handers has come true. GOAT bowler against lefties.Just revisiting some of my earlier comments of Ashwin from 2011 herein PP (from the first page of this very thread, quoting only a few).
I wasn't too far off from my expectations of Ashwin![]()
Player | Wickets |
Muttiah Muralitharan | 800 |
Shane Warne | 708 |
James Anderson | 695 |
Anil Kumble | 619 |
Stuart Broad | 604 |
Glenn McGrath | 563 |
Courtney Walsh | 519 |
Nathan Lyon | 517 |
Ravichandran Ashwin | 500 |
Dale Steyn | 439 |
Ravichandran Ashwin has now become the second Indian after Anil Kumble to reach the 500 Test wickets milestone after dismissing Zak Crawley in the 3rd Test at Rajkot.Massive career milestone for Ravichandran Ashwin in Rajkot Test
Ravichandran Ashwin became just the second Indian bowler and ninth overall to take 500 wickets in Test cricket.
Ashwin achieved the milestone during the ongoing Test match in Rajkot against England. The off-spinner was on 499 scalps at the end of the second Test in Vizag and completed his 500th with the wicket of Zak Crawley on Day 2 of the third Test.
Ashwin is the ninth bowler in Test history to breach the 500-wicket barrier, and the only one from India since Anil Kumble. Muttiah Muralitharan, Shane Warne, Anil Kumble and Nathan Lyon are the only other spinners ahead of him in the list of highest wicket-takers in Test history.
Ashwin, who made his Test debut in November 2011, has been India’s strike bowler in Tests, particularly at home, where 347 of his 500 wickets have come.
Top 10 wicket-takers in Test history
Ashwin achieved the feat in 98 Test matches, making him the second-quickest in Test history to the milestone after Muttiah Muralitharan. Each of the other seven bowlers took more than 100 Test matches to get to the milestone.
Player Wickets Muttiah Muralitharan 800 Shane Warne 708 James Anderson 695 Anil Kumble 619 Stuart Broad 604 Glenn McGrath 563 Courtney Walsh 519 Nathan Lyon 517 Ravichandran Ashwin 500 Dale Steyn 439
On the eve of the Test, teammate Ravindra Jadeja had cheekily commented that it was Ashwin's "destiny" to complete the milestone at Jadeja's home ground in Rajkot.
"I am very happy for him, I have been playing with him for years," Jadeja had said. "I thought he would get it in the first test match, but it's okay, it is destiny that he will get it here in my hometown."
Ashwin has 34 five-wicket hauls and eight 10-wicket match hauls in his Test career.
James Anderson, Lyon and Ashwin are the only active bowlers to have more than 400 wickets in Test cricket.
ICC
You have my sympathies. It must hurt that there is no Pakistani that list. 'World's best bowling attack' couldn't produce one bowler who could survive to take 500 test wickets.Quite sad to see likes of Ashwin Harbhajhan dodgy pitch bowlers who can’t even make away team xi, go past genius’s like Ambrose Donald Wasim Akram.
Curious to see any ICC relevant clause on it.Feel for him.
Not sure if there is precedent or provision for this, but hopefully the captains and coaches can agree that there will be a full replacement for the remaining three days.
So Axar can bowl if comes in ??
No way Stokes objectsOfficially no. A replacement for this reason can only bat and/or bowl if the opposition captain allows it.
Yep he would allow it because he is no ShakibNo way Stokes objects
Tough on Ashwin and all the best to him, but you dont cancel a whole TEST match.Thoughts are with him and I hope that he and his family get through this situation.
If it is a very serious situation, the Indians should share it privately with the England team and agree to call the match a draw out of respect.
God Forbid some bad news comes out ; it will make the match result seem hollow and there are more important things in life.
You would feel that way but they can’t, won’t, and shouldn’t change rules / laws for one person right when it happens. As much as I sympathize with Ashwin and am an Indian fan, full replacement won’t be right and within the laws of the game. All law changes happen after much deliberation and voting at the administrative levels. And if such a law is created, there is a chance people may misuse such a rule at a later point to their benefit, you never know - cricket is now gentlemanly only in name.Hope everything works out for Ashwin and they should move forward with a replacement. It's the right thing to do.
I guess you are right and inshAllah nothing bad happens but if it does Indian test team are full of his mates. They will be mourning and also a player down.Tough on Ashwin and all the best to him, but you dont cancel a whole TEST match.
They all have this cry baby attitude towards Ashwin ever since he had this tiff with Josh Buttler. They don't waste time putting him in the spot.The ease with which English ex cricketers cast aspersions on opposition cricketers' integrity is astounding.
Really poor from Cook. I thought he was a gentleman. Just because his Essex team mate used to do that, Ashwin must be doing that too.
He is a champion bowler and it is not that easy to take 500 wickets in test. It is dream for many in modern times. Yes, his action can be debatable for many but he is class apart.
You are too naive to accept the fact that there is something wrong with his action. I guess you missed the point, I SAID DEBATEBALE, NEVER MENTIONED THAT HIS ACTION IS CHUCKING ETC ETC.Action debatable? Its Ashwin and not Ajmal we are talking about.
You are too naive to accept the fact that there is something wrong with his action. I guess you missed the point, I SAID DEBATEBALE, NEVER MENTIONED THAT HIS ACTION IS CHUCKING ETC ETC.
Bro, I never said that it is illegal. Did I? Why do there has to be a debate when I have not mentioned it being illegal? People were concerned in the past but that debate is not heard anywhere now.Where is the debate? Among which experts of the game? Commentators? Former players? Writers? Umpires? Referees? Where is the debate?
Bro, I never said that it is illegal. Did I? Why do there has to be a debate when I have not mentioned it being illegal? People were concerned in the past but that debate is not heard anywhere now.
Ashwin himself said that it is unlikely to happen as he does not play much and also he is 37 already.Good on him to reach 500 wickets.
Can he surpass Kumble?