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As I said a month ago, among all the failures, Shan Masood will have the honor of beating England in a Test series. It will happen.
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Shan also needs to go, this Pakistan team would get folded 5 to 6 out of 10x by England.Big difference
Let's be honest here bhai, 3 out of 6 test matches were against Australia in Australia where Pakistan never compete not even with the best team. The last Australia tour was the most mismanaged tour by PCB, no one knew till the last moment who will be the pacers & spinners in the final squad and 30% players in the squad were carrying injuries and the most of the top order batsman failed to score even a single 50 in 6 innings.Shan 1-6
Let me repeat Shan 1-6Let's be honest here bhai, 3 out of 6 test matches were against Australia in Australia where Pakistan never compete not even with the best team. The last Australia tour was the most mismanaged tour by PCB, no one knew till the last moment who will be the pacers & spinners in the final squad and 30% players in the squad were carrying injuries and the most of the top order batsman failed to score even a single 50 in 6 innings.
Yes, the loss against Bangladesh at home was horrible and can't be pardoned in anyway.
The test team needs stability as far as captaincy in concerned as Pakistan doesn't play too many tests, Shan can continue for an year or 2 but he has to perform with the bat otherwise he will be replaced after another 2-3 series.
These stats will continue irrespective of captain if 80% of your team is full of consistent non-performers and chokersLet me repeat Shan 1-6
Yes but the captain himself is a consistent non performerThese stats will continue irrespective of captain if 80% of your team is full of consistent non-performers and chokers
I would rather have shan over anyone else in the team nowLet me repeat Shan 1-6
Sorry mate but I disagree completly, That 150 is a total scam and people know it. This whole positive intent thing is because Shan lack defense to play test cricket and lacks fitness to stay out their. After 100 or so deliveires he gets tired and isn't fit enough, Not that he ever reaches it. In sa he'll get cremated.I would rather have shan over anyone else in the team now
shan goes and you have rizwan as captain
He just scored 150 last tests and a 50 before that one
Sahibzada farhan, omair bin yousaf, playing the next test or the next series?Sorry mate but I disagree completly, That 150 is a total scam and people know it. This whole positive intent thing is because Shan lack defense to play test cricket and lacks fitness to stay out their. After 100 or so deliveires he gets tired and isn't fit enough, Not that he ever reaches it. In sa he'll get cremated.
You need red ball players as this game proved, Agha, KG, Don and Nouman Chacha are all seasonal RB players, their not top psl performers who don't even play red ball and masacarde around dubai or usa malls etc etc.
1) Shabzada Farhan (Top scorer of qea last year, been griding hard in red ball)
2) Saim ayub (Persisit with him for now)
3) Kamran Ghulam (This is where he belongs, our best fc player bats at no 3 as per tradition)
4) Omair Bin Yousaf (Another red ball player who's been grinding and deserves a call up)
5) Saud Shakeel (needs a few more series to decide)
6) Agha (Needs to be promoted)
7) Rizwan (No choice really, Sarfi is aging, no other keeper like usman khan or haris plays FC sadly)
8) Aamer Jamal
9) Sajid Khan
10) Zafar Gohar (Another proper spinner)
11) Nouman Ali (I think for now, Pcb shpuld go for the spinner strategy and prepare spin pitches)
^^ All these boys are 40× avg fc players and the bowlers are proper fc bowlers.
Shan isn't needed. As for captain, give the responsibility to your vc and make him captain, Let's see what saud does.
They shpuld play the next test and next series as well.Sahibzada farhan, omair bin yousaf, playing the next test or the next series?
I don't disagree with youThey shpuld play the next test and next series as well.
Agha, KG, Sajid and Nouman won this test, It was these 4 vs England, no one else, The others didn't contribute, max Saim did in the first innings but beyond that he did zilch.
And surprise surprise, these 4 are fc red ball toppers whereas babar, Rizwan, etc dint even play red ball and Shan doesn't take county as seriously, he doesn't play red ball fc at home, just a few games captaining Yorkshire. His lack of effort is their to see.
Domestic performers are needed just like how India selects based of ranjit trophy and local tournaments and don't bother with anything else. IPL is just for entertainment whereas PSL for some reason is PCB's selection criteria
That's fine, but it's still the wrong approach overall.I don't disagree with you
Based on imagination I can throw in 50 names and pakistan would be winning 90% of their games.
Realistically from the current pool of players that are playing international cricket or have played only shaan and rizwan are the names who can lead the team
Rizwan will be disaster and you will see babar back in the team in 10 mins
Best to stick with shaan and give him time
Real issue is a captain hasn't been groomed in babars era..That's fine, but it's still the wrong approach overall.
I've long said pakistan needs a hard reset, and a hard reset means a hard reset. No nepotism, No misbah influence none of that.
These fc boys and List A boys are desperate to represent Pakistan. They have grinded and grinded to hone their skills for their country even though the current system is stupidly unfair due to nepo at play.
Babar Azam, Rizwan, all this is a marketing myth, in the same way EA dupes the gullible into buying the same garbage repackaged fifa video game per year.
Anyone with 2 brain cells can tell that Babar even in his prime is nothing more then a bootleg yousaf.
He's basically Yousaf if you remove the ability to play backlift, Remove the ability to bat all the way through and remain not out, remove the ability to manage RR etc etc. To top it off he also has the bad qualities of Yousaf x 100. Like both yousaf and Babar were nervous starters but yousaf never gave the indication that he was going to get out, he gave the indication that maybe the rr might get out of hand or pressure would be put on the other batter, hence the first 20 balls were hell.
Babar on the other hand gives the indication that he'll get out any second.
People don't wish to accept it, but Kamran Ghulam is 100x more talented and superior to Babar Azam, Just because people have heard about Babar since 2010 due to akmal connections means zilch.
One has grinded his way and toiled for years. The other is shopping in Dubai.
Misbah was grooming RizwanReal issue is a captain hasn't been groomed in babars era..
Should get a series win and retire peacefully after this series , will be remember in good memories if he does that.
Look here's the thing, Captains aren't really groomed. It's kinda a skill you either have or you don't.Real issue is a captain hasn't been groomed in babars era..
He has no say in team selection, and Zahid amply showed why Shan shouldn't trust him.Pathetic captaincy by not introducing Aamer Jamal against the tail. Playing Zahid is anther blunder he made in the 3rd test.
Another test captain has a little worse batting stats than Shan Masood... do you think, that should also be dropped?What if Shan Masood wins this series? Should he continue as captain for another WTC cycle or will he be replaced?
In my opinion he shouldn’t stay in the team with such a poor batting performance which is his primary job. So regardless of the series result he should be replaced.
Kudos to you, reallyAs I said a month ago, among all the failures, Shan Masood will have the honor of beating England in a Test series. It will happen.
As I said a month ago, among all the failures, Shan Masood will have the honor of beating England in a Test series. It will happen.
Oh my God, for the first time I actually thought you said something sensible and not misbah propaganda related until I saw Abrar's name showing upPoor captaincy.
Yes we won, but shan just decided to bowl 30 overs each from two bowlers and thats it. Should had mixed things up better.
Pakistan got lucky, but had england gotten some score, we would had been in trouble.
First of, if you are taking one pacer than atleast take the quickest of them all and do mix up your bowlers.
If shan had little trust in zahid than Abrar should had been added.
We won the series but shan was just one dimensional just like babar was as captain
Can't really blame shan when carrying passaenges like shaheen and babar
This is photoshopped 100%Finally he can sleep well tonight
But the fact is shan had little to no contribution to this series win.I can happily claim "I TOLD YOU SO"
He did get a 150. So a century more that Saim, Rizwan, Babar in this series. He did not bat great but to say he didn't not contribute with the bat at all is wrong.But the fact is shan had little to no contribution to this series win.
That was a good innings but we lost that match so technically it didnt help Pakistans cause. Saims first innings 80 was crucial. I dont know what happened to rizwan. He used to be very reliable with the bat just an year agoHe did get a 150. So a century more that Saim, Rizwan, Babar in this series. He did not bat great but to say he didn't not contribute with the bat at all is wrong.
Drop him and bring back Babar.
Drop him and bring back Babar.
So you want to drop rubbish but replace him for an even stinkier pile of rubbish?
I thought red ball batters and red ball bowlers who play fc like saud, KG, Sajid and Nouman would have sealed the deal as to why Babar, Rizwan and shaheen are frauds who get selected in all formats only due to PSL?
Shabzada farhan and omair bin yousaf have terrific red ball stats, so does zafar gohar.
Gohar needs to replace Nouman Chacha once nouman chacha retires as he's aging.
Shabzada farhan and omair for Abdullah and Shan.
Saud as Test captain.
huraira should also be given a go ahead of abdullah or saimI thought red ball batters and red ball bowlers who play fc like saud, KG, Sajid and Nouman would have sealed the deal as to why Babar, Rizwan and shaheen are frauds who get selected in all formats only due to PSL?
Shabzada farhan and omair bin yousaf have terrific red ball stats, so does zafar gohar.
Gohar needs to replace Nouman Chacha once nouman chacha retires as he's aging.
Shabzada farhan and omair for Abdullah and Shan.
Saud as Test captain.
Babar is out of form but is far better than Shan.Is this sarcasm or is this for real?
I have no issues with the names you have suggested but will be a bit unfair on them to debut against SA in SA.I thought red ball batters and red ball bowlers who play fc like saud, KG, Sajid and Nouman would have sealed the deal as to why Babar, Rizwan and shaheen are frauds who get selected in all formats only due to PSL?
Shabzada farhan and omair bin yousaf have terrific red ball stats, so does zafar gohar.
Gohar needs to replace Nouman Chacha once nouman chacha retires as he's aging.
Shabzada farhan and omair for Abdullah and Shan.
Saud as Test captain.
Fair take. I agree.I have no issues with the names you have suggested but will be a bit unfair on them to debut against SA in SA.
I don't think farhan has the technique to be successful at tests but no harm going him a go based on his performance. Omair is far better option for tests than farhan.
In terms of saud being the captain, I have no issues if we played our cricket in SC. He was totally exposed in Australia and even dropped by his county team. Let him show he can actually bat outside SC.
Oh yeah I forgot about Hurraira. I'm surprised he hasn't been tried yet with Abdullah shafiq being a walking wicket.huraira should also be given a go ahead of abdullah or saim