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As I said a month ago, among all the failures, Shan Masood will have the honor of beating England in a Test series. It will happen.
 
Shan finally breaks his duck and makes it 1-6. Needs to go 2-6 to assure his temporary safety, but will most likely be a goner after the SA series anyway
 
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Rana said:
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Shan also needs to go, this Pakistan team would get folded 5 to 6 out of 10x by England.

Their super super lucky that Kamran Ghulam actually batted like a sane individual and that Agha took over as well.

Whole test was Agha, Norman, Sajid and KG aka proper fc players vs England.

But what's going to happen when these 4 don't perform? They all ain't gonna click every test, you need the other 7 members to actually do a damn.

I'm fine with saim and saud being given long ropes. Rest of the lot needs to go.

Experiment with shabzada farhan as one of the openers alongside saim, Bring KG to No 3, Saud to 5 and Agha to 6

Since theirs not many options for wicket keepers who play fc have rizzu or Sarfi at no 7.

Omair Bin Yousaf is another kid who's been grinding and grinding runs in red ball, He'd be a good option at no 4 for red ball.

Then Sajid Khan at 8, Followed by safari gohar who's another proper red ball spinner at 9.

2 red ball seamers at 10 and 11 but I'm also fine with nouman chacha at 10.

Again key word is they have to be domestic fc red ball players.

Not psl top performers who keep getting selected for red ball out of the blue
 
mominsaigol said:
Shan 1-6
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Let's be honest here bhai, 3 out of 6 test matches were against Australia in Australia where Pakistan never compete not even with the best team. The last Australia tour was the most mismanaged tour by PCB, no one knew till the last moment who will be the pacers & spinners in the final squad and 30% players in the squad were carrying injuries and the most of the top order batsman failed to score even a single 50 in 6 innings.
Yes, the loss against Bangladesh at home was horrible and can't be pardoned in anyway.
The test team needs stability as far as captaincy in concerned as Pakistan doesn't play too many tests, Shan can continue for an year or 2 but he has to perform with the bat otherwise he will be replaced after another 2-3 series.
 
zaidihusain said:
Let's be honest here bhai, 3 out of 6 test matches were against Australia in Australia where Pakistan never compete not even with the best team. The last Australia tour was the most mismanaged tour by PCB, no one knew till the last moment who will be the pacers & spinners in the final squad and 30% players in the squad were carrying injuries and the most of the top order batsman failed to score even a single 50 in 6 innings.
Yes, the loss against Bangladesh at home was horrible and can't be pardoned in anyway.
The test team needs stability as far as captaincy in concerned as Pakistan doesn't play too many tests, Shan can continue for an year or 2 but he has to perform with the bat otherwise he will be replaced after another 2-3 series.
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Let me repeat Shan 1-6
 
emranabbas said:
I would rather have shan over anyone else in the team now

shan goes and you have rizwan as captain

He just scored 150 last tests and a 50 before that one
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Sorry mate but I disagree completly, That 150 is a total scam and people know it. This whole positive intent thing is because Shan lack defense to play test cricket and lacks fitness to stay out their. After 100 or so deliveires he gets tired and isn't fit enough, Not that he ever reaches it. In sa he'll get cremated.

You need red ball players as this game proved, Agha, KG, Don and Nouman Chacha are all seasonal RB players, their not top psl performers who don't even play red ball and masacarde around dubai or usa malls etc etc.

1) Shabzada Farhan (Top scorer of qea last year, been griding hard in red ball)

2) Saim ayub (Persisit with him for now)

3) Kamran Ghulam (This is where he belongs, our best fc player bats at no 3 as per tradition)

4) Omair Bin Yousaf (Another red ball player who's been grinding and deserves a call up)

5) Saud Shakeel (needs a few more series to decide)

6) Agha (Needs to be promoted)

7) Rizwan (No choice really, Sarfi is aging, no other keeper like usman khan or haris plays FC sadly)

8) Aamer Jamal

9) Sajid Khan

10) Zafar Gohar (Another proper spinner)

11) Nouman Ali (I think for now, Pcb shpuld go for the spinner strategy and prepare spin pitches)

^^ All these boys are 40× avg fc players and the bowlers are proper fc bowlers.

Shan isn't needed. As for captain, give the responsibility to your vc and make him captain, Let's see what saud does.
 
mominsaigol said:
Sorry mate but I disagree completly, That 150 is a total scam and people know it. This whole positive intent thing is because Shan lack defense to play test cricket and lacks fitness to stay out their. After 100 or so deliveires he gets tired and isn't fit enough, Not that he ever reaches it. In sa he'll get cremated.

You need red ball players as this game proved, Agha, KG, Don and Nouman Chacha are all seasonal RB players, their not top psl performers who don't even play red ball and masacarde around dubai or usa malls etc etc.

1) Shabzada Farhan (Top scorer of qea last year, been griding hard in red ball)

2) Saim ayub (Persisit with him for now)

3) Kamran Ghulam (This is where he belongs, our best fc player bats at no 3 as per tradition)

4) Omair Bin Yousaf (Another red ball player who's been grinding and deserves a call up)

5) Saud Shakeel (needs a few more series to decide)

6) Agha (Needs to be promoted)

7) Rizwan (No choice really, Sarfi is aging, no other keeper like usman khan or haris plays FC sadly)

8) Aamer Jamal

9) Sajid Khan

10) Zafar Gohar (Another proper spinner)

11) Nouman Ali (I think for now, Pcb shpuld go for the spinner strategy and prepare spin pitches)

^^ All these boys are 40× avg fc players and the bowlers are proper fc bowlers.

Shan isn't needed. As for captain, give the responsibility to your vc and make him captain, Let's see what saud does.
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Sahibzada farhan, omair bin yousaf, playing the next test or the next series?
 
emranabbas said:
Sahibzada farhan, omair bin yousaf, playing the next test or the next series?
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They shpuld play the next test and next series as well.

Agha, KG, Sajid and Nouman won this test, It was these 4 vs England, no one else, The others didn't contribute, max Saim did in the first innings but beyond that he did zilch.

And surprise surprise, these 4 are fc red ball toppers whereas babar, Rizwan, etc dint even play red ball and Shan doesn't take county as seriously, he doesn't play red ball fc at home, just a few games captaining Yorkshire. His lack of effort is their to see.

Domestic performers are needed just like how India selects based of ranjit trophy and local tournaments and don't bother with anything else. IPL is just for entertainment whereas PSL for some reason is PCB's selection criteria
 
This win is special to Shan Masood as it marks his only Test win as Pakistan's Test captain.

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mominsaigol said:
They shpuld play the next test and next series as well.

Agha, KG, Sajid and Nouman won this test, It was these 4 vs England, no one else, The others didn't contribute, max Saim did in the first innings but beyond that he did zilch.

And surprise surprise, these 4 are fc red ball toppers whereas babar, Rizwan, etc dint even play red ball and Shan doesn't take county as seriously, he doesn't play red ball fc at home, just a few games captaining Yorkshire. His lack of effort is their to see.

Domestic performers are needed just like how India selects based of ranjit trophy and local tournaments and don't bother with anything else. IPL is just for entertainment whereas PSL for some reason is PCB's selection criteria
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I don't disagree with you

Based on imagination I can throw in 50 names and pakistan would be winning 90% of their games.

Realistically from the current pool of players that are playing international cricket or have played only shaan and rizwan are the names who can lead the team

Rizwan will be disaster and you will see babar back in the team in 10 mins

Best to stick with shaan and give him time
 
emranabbas said:
I don't disagree with you

Based on imagination I can throw in 50 names and pakistan would be winning 90% of their games.

Realistically from the current pool of players that are playing international cricket or have played only shaan and rizwan are the names who can lead the team

Rizwan will be disaster and you will see babar back in the team in 10 mins

Best to stick with shaan and give him time
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That's fine, but it's still the wrong approach overall.

I've long said pakistan needs a hard reset, and a hard reset means a hard reset. No nepotism, No misbah influence none of that.

These fc boys and List A boys are desperate to represent Pakistan. They have grinded and grinded to hone their skills for their country even though the current system is stupidly unfair due to nepo at play.

Babar Azam, Rizwan, all this is a marketing myth, in the same way EA dupes the gullible into buying the same garbage repackaged fifa video game per year.

Anyone with 2 brain cells can tell that Babar even in his prime is nothing more then a bootleg yousaf.

He's basically Yousaf if you remove the ability to play backlift, Remove the ability to bat all the way through and remain not out, remove the ability to manage RR etc etc. To top it off he also has the bad qualities of Yousaf x 100. Like both yousaf and Babar were nervous starters but yousaf never gave the indication that he was going to get out, he gave the indication that maybe the rr might get out of hand or pressure would be put on the other batter, hence the first 20 balls were hell.

Babar on the other hand gives the indication that he'll get out any second.

People don't wish to accept it, but Kamran Ghulam is 100x more talented and superior to Babar Azam, Just because people have heard about Babar since 2010 due to akmal connections means zilch.

One has grinded his way and toiled for years. The other is shopping in Dubai.
 
mominsaigol said:
That's fine, but it's still the wrong approach overall.

I've long said pakistan needs a hard reset, and a hard reset means a hard reset. No nepotism, No misbah influence none of that.

These fc boys and List A boys are desperate to represent Pakistan. They have grinded and grinded to hone their skills for their country even though the current system is stupidly unfair due to nepo at play.

Babar Azam, Rizwan, all this is a marketing myth, in the same way EA dupes the gullible into buying the same garbage repackaged fifa video game per year.

Anyone with 2 brain cells can tell that Babar even in his prime is nothing more then a bootleg yousaf.

He's basically Yousaf if you remove the ability to play backlift, Remove the ability to bat all the way through and remain not out, remove the ability to manage RR etc etc. To top it off he also has the bad qualities of Yousaf x 100. Like both yousaf and Babar were nervous starters but yousaf never gave the indication that he was going to get out, he gave the indication that maybe the rr might get out of hand or pressure would be put on the other batter, hence the first 20 balls were hell.

Babar on the other hand gives the indication that he'll get out any second.

People don't wish to accept it, but Kamran Ghulam is 100x more talented and superior to Babar Azam, Just because people have heard about Babar since 2010 due to akmal connections means zilch.

One has grinded his way and toiled for years. The other is shopping in Dubai.
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Real issue is a captain hasn't been groomed in babars era..
 
emranabbas said:
Real issue is a captain hasn't been groomed in babars era..
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Look here's the thing, Captains aren't really groomed. It's kinda a skill you either have or you don't.

All these lads Saud, KG, Shan, Babar, Rizwan, even younger bloods like Saim as well as players like sajid have all captained their fc teams at some point in their lives.

You just gotta take a stand. Yes one thing I will agree on is that overall experience is lacking, As sarfaraz was far far more experienced then these guys who've only captained once or 2x or at best for one or 2 seasons,

Compared to Sarfaraz who was consistently captaining since even before under 19 and even before his 2014 call up into the test side he was still captaining in all formats locally.

So yes unfortunately we do not have anyone of that level of experience available.
 
Shan Masood humorously mixed up the honors board at the stadium, incorrectly listing Pakistan under both the Opposition and Winner's columns, instead of England and Pakistan.

Source: PCB Video

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Pathetic captaincy by not introducing Aamer Jamal against the tail. Playing Zahid is anther blunder he made in the 3rd test.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Pathetic captaincy by not introducing Aamer Jamal against the tail. Playing Zahid is anther blunder he made in the 3rd test.
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He has no say in team selection, and Zahid amply showed why Shan shouldn't trust him.
 
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Shan doesn’t know how to bat even in testing conditions, he is not even a flat track bully, just take the captaincy from him. He isn’t even a batsman let alone the captaincy.
 
What if Shan Masood wins this series? Should he continue as captain for another WTC cycle or will he be replaced?

In my opinion he shouldn’t stay in the team with such a poor batting performance which is his primary job. So regardless of the series result he should be replaced.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
What if Shan Masood wins this series? Should he continue as captain for another WTC cycle or will he be replaced?

In my opinion he shouldn’t stay in the team with such a poor batting performance which is his primary job. So regardless of the series result he should be replaced.
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Another test captain has a little worse batting stats than Shan Masood... do you think, that should also be dropped?

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His position should come under scrutiny. Its not like he is a Mark Taylor, Mike Brearley type captain genius in the field. He won't last long if he does not consistently score runs.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
What if Shan Masood wins this series? Should he continue as captain for another WTC cycle or will he be replaced?

In my opinion he shouldn’t stay in the team with such a poor batting performance which is his primary job. So regardless of the series result he should be replaced.
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Uff, after that "not-out", Shan is so close to achieving the iconic milestone of a 30+ average

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The first person who should be thrown out from team is shan masood.... He can't hide behind this series win... If it wasn't for Aquib's idea of spin friendly pitches.. The results would have been a complete whitewash.
 
Michael Atherton on Pakistan's captain Shan Masood:

"Six defeats on the bounce. If you lose the seventh in Multan from a very strong position, that's almost a position from which you cannot come back as a captain.

"That was a hugely important victory for him.

"A good result for him and gives him breathing space.

"Pakistan now have a template for winning. Any Test match team you have to be strong at home and then search for ways to adapt your game when you're away."
 
Pakistan's captain Shan Masood during the presentation ceremony:

"It's special and what this team, management and board has been through in the last two months and for everyone to stand up and still give their best at the ground means a lot.

"At the end of the day it's about character and who will bleed for you, and Sajid literally bled for us yesterday.

"There will always be individual performances. Saud Shakeel's knock is the best I've seen, to take 70 singles for his century.

"It's the small efforts for the big things.

"Our ground fielding was outstanding in this match, it's little things you do and they turn into big things.

"For us it's about adapting to different conditions and it's heartening to watch this.

"For me the biggest thing is progress. It's great to have some young players come with senior players returning too."
 
Seriously? After that series win, people still think he should step down as captain? He's the real problem? 🤷

Now they're even talking about his average.

Alright, let's just drop him from the team and captaincy, bring Babar back as captain or make Rizwan the captain. 😅
 
Poor captaincy.

Yes we won, but shan just decided to bowl 30 overs each from two bowlers and thats it. Should had mixed things up better.

Pakistan got lucky, but had england gotten some score, we would had been in trouble.

First of, if you are taking one pacer than atleast take the quickest of them all and do mix up your bowlers.

If shan had little trust in zahid than Abrar should had been added.

We won the series but shan was just one dimensional just like babar was as captain
 
Captaincy? What captaincy? He just gave the ball to the 2 spinners who thankfully for him didn't tire even after endless spells. Those 2 spinners with contributions from Salman, Ghulam and Saud are the chief architects.

Sadly for us, there is no respite, this sub-standard player will continue to be selected.
 
Major said:
Poor captaincy.

Yes we won, but shan just decided to bowl 30 overs each from two bowlers and thats it. Should had mixed things up better.

Pakistan got lucky, but had england gotten some score, we would had been in trouble.

First of, if you are taking one pacer than atleast take the quickest of them all and do mix up your bowlers.

If shan had little trust in zahid than Abrar should had been added.

We won the series but shan was just one dimensional just like babar was as captain
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Oh my God, for the first time I actually thought you said something sensible and not misbah propaganda related until I saw Abrar's name showing up 🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏻
 
When will this guys free ride in international cricket end. Please just give the captaincy to Rizwan or Saud and end this misery.
 
MHN1293 said:
But the fact is shan had little to no contribution to this series win.
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He did get a 150. So a century more that Saim, Rizwan, Babar in this series. He did not bat great but to say he didn't not contribute with the bat at all is wrong.
 
PakHammer said:
He did get a 150. So a century more that Saim, Rizwan, Babar in this series. He did not bat great but to say he didn't not contribute with the bat at all is wrong.
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That was a good innings but we lost that match so technically it didnt help Pakistans cause. Saims first innings 80 was crucial. I dont know what happened to rizwan. He used to be very reliable with the bat just an year ago
 
khyberlion said:
Drop him and bring back Babar.
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I thought red ball batters and red ball bowlers who play fc like saud, KG, Sajid and Nouman would have sealed the deal as to why Babar, Rizwan and shaheen are frauds who get selected in all formats only due to PSL?

Shabzada farhan and omair bin yousaf have terrific red ball stats, so does zafar gohar.

Gohar needs to replace Nouman Chacha once nouman chacha retires as he's aging.

Shabzada farhan and omair for Abdullah and Shan.

Saud as Test captain.
 
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mominsaigol said:
So you want to drop rubbish but replace him for an even stinkier pile of rubbish?

I thought red ball batters and red ball bowlers who play fc like saud, KG, Sajid and Nouman would have sealed the deal as to why Babar, Rizwan and shaheen are frauds who get selected in all formats only due to PSL?

Shabzada farhan and omair bin yousaf have terrific red ball stats, so does zafar gohar.

Gohar needs to replace Nouman Chacha once nouman chacha retires as he's aging.

Shabzada farhan and omair for Abdullah and Shan.

Saud as Test captain.
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Saud absolutely should be Test captain and whoever replaces Shan must be a domestic performer, what is Farhan’s footwork like now?

Gohar needs to be roped in asap and play like the odd Test here and there / work with Noman to develop some guile in his bowling and make better use of flight because Noman is outstanding with his deception, Gohar has also played a lot of cricket here on pitches which have assisted his bowling and by being in the Pak team now, he can be a better player down the line.

If Sami Aslam didn’t leave Pakistan due to Misbah and co, he could have been a good option as well at the top.

Abdullah needs a break and should change his role models.
 
mominsaigol said:
I thought red ball batters and red ball bowlers who play fc like saud, KG, Sajid and Nouman would have sealed the deal as to why Babar, Rizwan and shaheen are frauds who get selected in all formats only due to PSL?

Shabzada farhan and omair bin yousaf have terrific red ball stats, so does zafar gohar.

Gohar needs to replace Nouman Chacha once nouman chacha retires as he's aging.

Shabzada farhan and omair for Abdullah and Shan.

Saud as Test captain.
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huraira should also be given a go ahead of abdullah or saim
 
mominsaigol said:
I thought red ball batters and red ball bowlers who play fc like saud, KG, Sajid and Nouman would have sealed the deal as to why Babar, Rizwan and shaheen are frauds who get selected in all formats only due to PSL?

Shabzada farhan and omair bin yousaf have terrific red ball stats, so does zafar gohar.

Gohar needs to replace Nouman Chacha once nouman chacha retires as he's aging.

Shabzada farhan and omair for Abdullah and Shan.

Saud as Test captain.
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I have no issues with the names you have suggested but will be a bit unfair on them to debut against SA in SA.

I don't think farhan has the technique to be successful at tests but no harm going him a go based on his performance. Omair is far better option for tests than farhan.

In terms of saud being the captain, I have no issues if we played our cricket in SC. He was totally exposed in Australia and even dropped by his county team. Let him show he can actually bat outside SC.
 
An excellent win and he deserves credit for Chang of tactic and inspiring his team. Let's hope his batting becomes more consistent- he threatens to score but more often than not he fails to go.
 
khyberlion said:
I have no issues with the names you have suggested but will be a bit unfair on them to debut against SA in SA.

I don't think farhan has the technique to be successful at tests but no harm going him a go based on his performance. Omair is far better option for tests than farhan.

In terms of saud being the captain, I have no issues if we played our cricket in SC. He was totally exposed in Australia and even dropped by his county team. Let him show he can actually bat outside SC.
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Fair take. I agree.
 
MHN1293 said:
huraira should also be given a go ahead of abdullah or saim
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Oh yeah I forgot about Hurraira. I'm surprised he hasn't been tried yet with Abdullah shafiq being a walking wicket.

He too deserves a chance
 
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