[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Shan Masood as Pakistan Test captain performance watch

[IMMY69]

Had the ball stopped seaming at that point ? Neither sides used a spinner, at which point do you think he should have used a spinner, how many more runs would they have required ? And looking at the scorecard it seems like Abbas had little support, I guess they could have used a spinner at the other end but that may have been a gamble as well.

Ultimately the batting was catastrophic and the collapse incited by proved pretty fatal to.

Saim Ayub 2.4 overs 2 runs 1 wicket

That's in the first innings...

 

[IMMY69]

Had the ball stopped seaming at that point ? Neither sides used a spinner, at which point do you think he should have used a spinner, how many more runs would they have required ? And looking at the scorecard it seems like Abbas had little support, I guess they could have used a spinner at the other end but that may have been a gamble as well.

Ultimately the batting was catastrophic and the collapse incited by proved pretty fatal to.

Of course the overall batting was pathetic and I'm not letting any of them off the hook... but this thread is about Shan's captaincy and I firmly believe that a good thinking captain would have taken us over the line

 

[emranabbas]

Shan Masood should be sacked. Any potential advocates please defend @Rana @mominsaigol @emranabbas

I'm not a fan of Shanna but I will back him up since he's in the team, I couldn't care who the captain is, as long as its not Babar and Rizwan.

 

[Amjid Javed]

It's common practice now in poor teams that the captain is merely there to toss the coin or is a pet favourite of team.

Apart from going out for the toss or speaking English, Shan offers nothing to the team.

Maybe he can start doing fist pumps, wave at crowd and do team huddles after every wicket falls.

This seems to be the requirement for mediocre captains in different sports

 

[Bewal Express]

It's common practice now in poor teams that the captain is merely there to toss the coin or is a pet favourite of team.

Apart from going out for the toss or speaking English, Shan offers nothing to the team.

Maybe he can start doing fist pumps, wave at crowd and do team huddles after every wicket falls.

This seems to be the requirement for mediocre captains in different sports

His batting looks ok until he loses concentration and plays above his station.

 

[emranabbas]

to be fair we were a bowler short, PSL products like Naseem won't last in longer formats. you need bowlers with discipline in tests.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Warning:

Let’s not derail the thread and avoid personal remarks towards each other.

 

[Amjid Javed]

His batting looks ok until he loses concentration and plays above his station.

He's just a mediocre player. Always has been and always will. It's only because his dad's well connected in PCB that he's even in the team

 

[Bewal Express]

He's just a mediocre player. Always has been and always will. It's only because his dad's well connected in PCB that he's even in the team

Statistically yes and ultimately that's what matters. But when i watch him bat, he doesn't seem to lack talent or shots. I think he plays as if he is amazingly talented,and he isn't. That's what I mean by playing above his station.

 

[psyoptica]

His batting looks ok until he loses concentration and plays above his station.

Less than 30 average player has no place in ODI cricket let alone in test cricket.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Statistically yes and ultimately that's what matters. But when i watch him bat, he doesn't seem to lack talent or shots. I think he plays as if he is amazingly talented,and he isn't. That's what I mean by playing above his station.

Yeah like most of our openers he looks good for about an hour, gets a nice 20 and then throws it away. There is just no mental toughness in Shan as well as others

 

[Bewal Express]

Less than 30 average player has no place in ODI cricket let alone in test cricket.

Yes. And that's what matters but he doesn't look like a guy that should be that low

 

[m.shah]

When will this useless captain will be kicked??

 

[FearlessRoar]

Ahmed Shehzad criticizes skipper Shan after narrow defeat to South Africa in the first Test

https://twitter.com/x/status/1873342581796651438

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Ahmed Shehzad criticizes skipper Shan after narrow defeat to South Africa in the first Test

https://twitter.com/x/status/1873342581796651438

What does Shehzad mean here.

Jamal should have bowled earlier? Or shouldn't have bowled at all?

His criticism is just like his batting. Neither here nor there.

 

[shamaan]

What does Shehzad mean here.

Jamal should have bowled earlier? Or shouldn't have bowled at all?

His criticism is just like his batting. Neither here nor there.

He should have either bowled alot earlier or not bowl at all.Why would you give someone who hasnt bowled a single over in the second Innings have 20 runs to defend this is pathetic captaincy.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

to be fair we were a bowler short, PSL products like Naseem won't last in longer formats. you need bowlers with discipline in tests.

Then you got M. Ali and M. Hamza waiting on the bench after stellar domestic performances. I mean it's like they performed for nothing.

 

[Farabi]

Then you got M. Ali and M. Hamza waiting on the bench after stellar domestic performances. I mean it's like they performed for nothing.

But they don’t bowl express pace

 

[neonoir]

He has to go and I don't mean as a captain I mean as a player he averages under 30 after playing almost 40 test matches that has to be some sort of record for a top order batsmen!

He shouldn't even be included in the team let alone captain Misbah was hounded as a captain but at least he maintained his average in the mid 40s.

Shan Masood is the worst batsmen ever to have played 40 test matches for Pakistan

 

[mominsaigol]

He's one of the worst players to ever represent Pakistan and anyone who supported shan are people who i lost respect for.

First and foremost he's a rubbish player plain and simple. A 29 avg opening/top order test batter as a captain is a joke. Plain and simple. Performance wise he's a liability so what's the point?

Now as a captain he's been rubbish. He showed good captaincy antics vs Australia probably to impress selectors but straight after the aussie series he was rubbish.

Can't control his bowlers, doesn't know how to properly place field sets, wastes drs reviews left and right, doesn't contribute as a batsmen etc etc.

 

[neonoir]

Each and every player above him is either a bowler or wicket keeper

He is statistically Pakistan's worst ever batsmen to have played more than 70 innings!

 

[neonoir]

He's one of the worst players to ever represent Pakistan and anyone who supported shan are people who i lost respect for.

First and foremost he's a rubbish player plain and simple. A 29 avg opening/top order test batter as a captain is a joke. Plain and simple. Performance wise he's a liability so what's the point?

Now as a captain he's been rubbish. He showed good captaincy antics vs Australia probably to impress selectors but straight after the aussie series he was rubbish.

Can't control his bowlers, doesn't know how to properly place field sets, wastes drs reviews left and right, doesn't contribute as a batsmen etc etc.

There is absolutely no defending him anymore I remember his backers saying he was a great captain and his batting comes second.

First and foremost you should contribute to your team in your specialist field ie as a batsman or bowler then your captaincy comes second.

And he doesn't perform either as a captain or batsmen.

He has go to go!

 

[mominsaigol]

There is absolutely no defending him anymore I remember his backers saying he was a great captain and his batting comes second.

First and foremost you should contribute to your team in your specialist field ie as a batsman or bowler then your captaincy comes second.

And he doesn't perform either as a captain or batsmen.

He has go to go!

His backers were clueless even back then. And I was the first one who pointed it out and was called a moron by some.

I still have comments where I outright claimed that having a degree from the UK in business doesn't qualify you to be a good captain. These 2 qualifications aren't interlinked.

Followed by the fact that he averaged 28 at the time. He only boosted his avg to 29 due to that 150 on a road pitch. However on that very pitch root struck 262 and Brooks scored a triple century. That 150 was very standard as it was 700 to 800 run track.

People constantly bringing up Breadley lol. This is 2024 not the 1970's anymore. Mikey wouldn't even make it into the playing 11 of a Canadian franchise league.

 

[W63L35]

Of all the test batsmen who have scored 2000+ test runs at top 4 positions, Shan's average is the 5 lowest.
Interestingly Zack Crawley is also in the list.

 

[neonoir]

His backers were clueless even back then. And I was the first one who pointed it out and was called a moron by some.

I still have comments where I outright claimed that having a degree from the UK in business doesn't qualify you to be a good captain. These 2 qualifications aren't interlinked.

Followed by the fact that he averaged 28 at the time. He only boosted his avg to 29 due to that 150 on a road pitch. However on that very pitch root struck 262 and Brooks scored a triple century. That 150 was very standard as it was 700 to 800 run track.

People constantly bringing up Breadley lol. This is 2024 not the 1970's anymore. Mikey wouldn't even make it into the playing 11 of a Canadian franchise league.

The bottom line is he is a from the noble elite in PK and just happens to have a family member in the PCB.

If you look at the word "Sifarish" in the dictionary Shan Masoods photo will be there

 

[neonoir]

Of all the test batsmen who have scored 2000+ test runs at top 4 positions, Shan's average is the 5 lowest.
Interestingly Zack Crawley is also in the list.

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At least on his good days Crawley gets England up and going and they stay ahead of the rate, he is being questioned in the media rn in the UK but he suits Bazball and the management are keen on him.

What does Shan Masood do just stay there and play his famous 60 ball 25's then nicks off

 

[Farabi]

The bottom line is he is a from the noble elite in PK and just happens to have a family member in the PCB.

If you look at the word "Sifarish" in the dictionary Shan Masoods photo will be there

I get that he’s been mediocre in international cricket. But he has 36 centuries in domestic cricket, 12k runs at an average of 40, and 6k runs in List A at an average of 53. Those are phenomenal numbers…hard numbers to ignore anywhere in the world.

Should he be in the team based on his international performances? No.
Did he get opportunities because of his uncle? Maybe, but with stats like those, he didn’t need to.

 

[neonoir]

I get that he’s been mediocre in international cricket. But he has 36 centuries in domestic cricket, 12k runs at an average of 40, and 6k runs in List A at an average of 53. Those are phenomenal numbers…hard numbers to ignore anywhere in the world.

Should he be in the team based on his international performances? No.
Did he get opportunities because of his uncle? Maybe, but with stats like those, he didn’t need to.

Let me answer your first question-

His father Mansoor Khan became a member of the PCB in 2014!

He straight away got the golden ticket, as soon as your father is on the board of your nations cricket team. I mean you know what happens next

You can throw all the domestic stats in the world at me! Now show me his international stats

If you can see the previous posts and have a mind capable of reason you will clearly be able to see that he is one of the worst top order batsmen not only in Pakistan's history but international cricket history.

Let's just take a dive into his amazing, immense FC Career - He averages 39

The majority of the Indian batsmen average in the 40's and 50's.

But a man who averages 39 in FC Cricket and has played the majority of that in Pakistan which you need no explaining is amongst the worst FC competitions in the world, is the captain of the country.

 

[Farabi]

Let me answer your first question-

His father Mansoor Khan became a member of the PCB in 2014!

He straight away got the golden ticket, as soon as your father is on the board of your nations cricket team. I mean you know what happens next

You can throw all the domestic stats in the world at me! Now show me his international stats

If you can see the previous posts and have a mind capable of reason you will clearly be able to see that he is one of the worst top order batsmen not only in Pakistan's history but international cricket history.

Let's just take a dive into his amazing, immense FC Career - He averages 39

The majority of the Indian batsmen average in the 40's and 50's.

But a man who averages 39 in FC Cricket and has played the majority of that in Pakistan which you need no explaining is amongst the worst FC competitions in the world, is the captain of the country.

Shan Masood’s international numbers are poor, and he shouldn’t be in the team. Whether his uncle had an influence, I can't say for sure, but his domestic numbers are outstanding, and I doubt all those bowlers were his cousins and uncles.

I don’t think you understand how to interpret stats. Based on those stats, he’s one of the strongest contenders. An FC opener averaging 40 with 15 centuries and 12k runs is gold anywhere in the world. You’re probably comparing his stats to those of middle-order batters.

Regarding the domestic standard, it’s decent, and it’s all we have to base our selections on. We can’t base Pakistani selections on anything else (or so and so’s opinion). If a player can’t dominate the domestic system, they have no hope at the international level. Most of those who have done well in domestic whether you talk about Agha Salman, Kamran Ghulam, Saim Ayub, Saud Shakeel, sajid Khan or Mohammad Abbas have shown the same mettle in international cricket. Shan Masood’s is one of those who couldn’t/didnt and that’s Ok not everyone will but most will.

 

[Kianig89]

Once a player has played 20-30 Tests , nobody looks at his domesti stats plain & simple

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

His place in the top order has become unteneable. Either he moves down the order and proves himself or give someone else a chance.

 

[The_KING]

Where are all of those people who were praising his captaincy after the Australian series?

The fact is that Shan Masood is an awful cricketer. He is an awful batsman and awful captain. His captaincy was special kind of bad during this match. Shahzad didnt bowl a single over as SA were getting close to the target. He even brought on Jamal but not Shahzad. Because of Shan’s horrendous captaincy, we lost a rare opportunity to win a test match in a SENA country.

Babar was a horrendous captain but at least he was justifying his place in the team. Shan doesn’t even merit a place in the team. He should be sacked before the second test match.

 

[Kianig89]

I hope this joke of a batsman and captain is booted out, clearly he is wasting a place in team an average of mid 20s for a player in top 3 is utter disgrace, would rather play a bits and pieces player instead of him as he will cover all bases. Someone like Jahandad Khan

 

[Cricket Warrior]

He is in the playing 11 because he is a captain otherwise he doesnt even deserve to be in a club level side

 

[BouncerGuy]

SHan is the worst player to ever play for Pakistan and became captain. He won't even find a place in the team till he retires if he was not captain... Pathetic

 

[BouncerGuy]

Stop derailing the thread now... THREAD IS ABOUT SHAN MASOOD AS YOU ALL CAN READ THE TOPIC

 

[shamaan]

What's worse his captaincy or his batting.