[PICTURES/VIDEOS] The era of Faheem Ashraf starts now

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Superb innings from Faheem Ashraf:<br><br>55 off 28 balls<br>Came in at 109 for 6 after 12.2 overs<br>Dismissed with the score at 187 for 7 after 19.3 overs<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSL7?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSL7</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IUvsQG?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IUvsQG</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1492533907769597954?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 12, 2022</a></blockquote>
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[YousafTheBeast]

Mudasser and Faulkner will be the reason why we see Faheem picked for the WT20.

 

[moghul]

One good inning does not impress me, he has to improve his bowling to be useful , otherwise Waseem Jr. is there to take the spot of a bowling all rounder's in the team.

 

[PakEngFan]

One good inning does not impress me, he has to improve his bowling to be useful , otherwise Waseem Jr. is there to take the spot of a bowling all rounder's in the team.

Waseem is not replacing him in tests any time soon. In fact I doubt waseem will play tests.

 

[moghul]

Waseem is not replacing him in tests any time soon. In fact I doubt waseem will play tests.

I'm talking about WBC. In tests if we don;t have a genuine all rounder , we should not play bits and pieces players like Faheem . Just play a fast bowler or play Shadab as an all rounder as he has improved his bowling a lot lately .

 

[Savak]

The guy is sadly unreliable with both bat and ball. In ODI he doesn't pick up wickets consistently, doesn't bowl at a high pace and he doesn't score runs consistently to compensate.

In test matches he gives balance to the team, does a holding job with the ball and chips in with occasional wickets but allows Shaheen and Hasan to be used in short bursts. He bat's well in test matches because he is under less run rate pressure and can afford to take his time with the bat.

 

[PakEngFan]

I'm talking about WBC. In tests if we don;t have a genuine all rounder , we should not play bits and pieces players like Faheem . Just play a fast bowler or play Shadab as an all rounder as he has improved his bowling a lot lately .

Bits and pieces averages 35+ with the bat which is more then enough for our batsmens let along an all rounder. He permitted well against New Zealand and SA. I am not a fan of Faheem but he’s done an excellent job so far in tests. A lot of posters are hyping waseem who is very poor and have read posts how he should be preferred over Faheem. As I said I don’t think waseem will ever play tests. Happy for be proves wrong and I hope he becomes an excellent players but at the moment I don’t see anything special in him. Looks very average.

 

[MenInG]

Faheem removes the dangerous looking Haris in Eliminator 1

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[Saj]

Batting well again at the moment.

Striking the ball cleanly against PZ.

 

[Moiz14]

I guess making him sit out of playing 11 and giving chance to wasim Jr has made him work on his game.. Looking in much better rhythm in bowling as well as baiting looks improved specially power hitting.

 

[Major]

He has had like 4-5 wickets missed out due to dropped catches

 

[moghul]

I think 6 long years are enough to prove Faheem is Ok for domestic cricket but not good for International cricket, definitely not for WBC.

 

[DRsohail]

He has had like 4-5 wickets missed out due to dropped catches

Do you think he has a. Place in t20I?

 

[wrongun]

Hmm looks a decent player when I saw him. Is there a better allrounder banging the door down?

 

[Titan24]

Hmm looks a decent player when I saw him. Is there a better allrounder banging the door down?

No better pace bowling all rounder currently but, Wasim Jr is being considered as one for the future as pace bowling all rounder and currently has more pace and can bowl at different time during the innings (Still a work in progress though).

Thing is Pak national white ball setup already has Shadab, Nawaz, Imad as spin bowling all rounders and with Hassan's ability to hit a few the batting depth is decent. So when it comes to a pace bowling all rounder the priority for Pak's selectors and management is a pacer first who can ball at good pace (Around and above 140kph) and can ball at different times of the innings. Wasim Jr has that extra zip and has some ability with the bat as well, both are work in progress but management things he can fit the bill for that pace bowling all option in the coming days.

Faheem after few injuries lost little bit of zip and is now mid 130s bowler and with not much ability to reverse or ball those perfect yorkers, his death over skills are highly dependent upon his pace variations which doesnt make him that 3rd seamer when Pak has number of pacers to fill that role and if they need someone who can bat a bit too then Wasim Jr and Hassan are already there. If we talk about the no 7 and 8 position the players he is competing with are spin bowling all rounders who have been doing pretty well with both bat and ball.

His ODI numbers are pretty poor considering his potential and they have not improved as much as was expected. In T20Is his bowling numbers have been decent but, then again the point comes down to is he good enough to be a third seamer or is there any specialist spinner knocking at the door (And is better than either Nawaz or Shadab) which will make Pak go with Faheem alongside one spin bowling all rounder, a specialist spinner and two front line pacers?

So these are few things which have been into play.

 

[PakEngFan]

I think 6 long years are enough to prove Faheem is Ok for domestic cricket but not good for International cricket, definitely not for WBC.

Can you name an alternative?

 

[PakEngFan]

Do you think he has a. Place in t20I?

Looking at his competitor i e waseem. Faheem should comfortably find a spot in all the formats. Waseem is a genuine no 9 or 10 and the less said about the bowling better. I know people don’t like Faheem but the fact is he’s by far the best pace bowling all rounder in Pakistan. No one comes close.

 

[PakEngFan]

No better pace bowling all rounder currently but, Wasim Jr is being considered as one for the future as pace bowling all rounder and currently has more pace and can bowl at different time during the innings (Still a work in progress though).

Thing is Pak national white ball setup already has Shadab, Nawaz, Imad as spin bowling all rounders and with Hassan's ability to hit a few the batting depth is decent. So when it comes to a pace bowling all rounder the priority for Pak's selectors and management is a pacer first who can ball at good pace (Around and above 140kph) and can ball at different times of the innings. Wasim Jr has that extra zip and has some ability with the bat as well, both are work in progress but management things he can fit the bill for that pace bowling all option in the coming days.

Faheem after few injuries lost little bit of zip and is now mid 130s bowler and with not much ability to reverse or ball those perfect yorkers, his death over skills are highly dependent upon his pace variations which doesnt make him that 3rd seamer when Pak has number of pacers to fill that role and if they need someone who can bat a bit too then Wasim Jr and Hassan are already there. If we talk about the no 7 and 8 position the players he is competing with are spin bowling all rounders who have been doing pretty well with both bat and ball.

His ODI numbers are pretty poor considering his potential and they have not improved as much as was expected. In T20Is his bowling numbers have been decent but, then again the point comes down to is he good enough to be a third seamer or is there any specialist spinner knocking at the door (And is better than either Nawaz or Shadab) which will make Pak go with Faheem alongside one spin bowling all rounder, a specialist spinner and two front line pacers?

So these are few things which have been into play.

Agree with this he’s been awful in odis and t20s. But looking at waseem and Hasan he won’t find it hard to get back in the team. I mean them guys are regularly travelling for 50 anyway while Faheem is a far better batsmen and miles better fielder then the tik tok dancer Hasan Ali.

 

[gazza619]

Faheem needs to do something real quick or his era which never started will come to an end.

It depends on Faheem really if the bits and pieces of performances satisfies him.

 

[Major]

Do you think he has a. Place in t20I?

In the squad of 16 yes, depending on the conditions he could switch with m.nawaz

 

[moghul]

Can you name an alternative?

Faheem is not in the national T20 team so why a replacement is needed, just keep him out. Any decent player if given 6 years at international level like Faheem was given ( thanks to Misbah ) can become an integral part of the team. Give Waseem Jr a long run and he can be your all format bowling all rounder.

 

[Maher96]

He showed glimpses of his batting. But it feels like instead of adding a yard or two of pace he is losing it rather quickly. Think we have better options than him.

 

[PakEngFan]

Faheem is not in the national T20 team so why a replacement is needed, just keep him out. Any decent player if given 6 years at international level like Faheem was given ( thanks to Misbah ) can become an integral part of the team. Give Waseem Jr a long run and he can be your all format bowling all rounder.

Waseem needs to improve being better then a no 10 if he wants to be a bowling all rounder. His batting technique is of a pure tailender. I have no idea why people rate him. His bowling will never succeed at international level due to his action. Can’t swing or seam the ball and doesn’t have any express pace to survive. Faheem being rubbish in t20s and odis but he’s done way more then waseem Jnr in PSl and if he makes a comeback then it’s a deserved one. Faheem should have never been dropped from tests and there is no one anyway near him in Tests. Please don’t say waseem for tests. I bet you will also want Faheem out for tests too.

 

[PakEngFan]

He showed glimpses of his batting. But it feels like instead of adding a yard or two of pace he is losing it rather quickly. Think we have better options than him.

Can you name the better options?

 

[shamaan]

Fahim should definitely play tests if he's fully fit and should swap with Shadab and Nawaz depending on conditions.

 

[moghul]

Waseem needs to improve being better then a no 10 if he wants to be a bowling all rounder. His batting technique is of a pure tailender. I have no idea why people rate him. His bowling will never succeed at international level due to his action. Can’t swing or seam the ball and doesn’t have any express pace to survive. Faheem being rubbish in t20s and odis but he’s done way more then waseem Jnr in PSl and if he makes a comeback then it’s a deserved one. Faheem should have never been dropped from tests and there is no one anyway near him in Tests. Please don’t say waseem for tests. I bet you will also want Faheem out for tests too.

You're right , Waseem needs to improve both , his batting and bowling , but is already a very good bowling all rounder and improving steadily. I don;t know your qualification as a bowling coach but I don't see any reason why he wont be successful at international level. Unlike Faheem , he has pace and he is taller too. Faheem on the other hand could not cement his position in any format of the game, 5 years after making his international debut.

 

[gazza619]

Can you name the better options?

Faheem is a mid tier player. There are some spin bowling allrounders alternatives like Qasim Akram.

Faheem hasn't upped his game. Last time I checked hadn't scored a hundred or a taken a 4 or 5 wicket haul in test cricket. He needs to do something special in at least one facet.

I know his current test stats are decent but if he doesnt improve then I would look at other options. Unless of course if it satisfies us in Pakistan being a mid tier test team.

 

[gazza619]

You're right , Waseem needs to improve both , his batting and bowling , but is already a very good bowling all rounder and improving steadily. I don;t know your qualification as a bowling coach but I don't see any reason why he wont be successful at international level. Unlike Faheem , he has pace and he is taller too. Faheem on the other hand could not cement his position in any format of the game, 5 years after making his international debut.

After watching Wasim Jnr closely in the PSL this year, I can safely say that there is very little chance in him making a successful test career. He doesn't have game awareness and his batting is dreadful.

 

[MenInG]

Media reports indicating that he will not be able to take part in the Pakistan v Australia Test series due to a groin strain.

 

[shamaan]

Faheem is a mid tier player. There are some spin bowling allrounders alternatives like Qasim Akram.

Faheem hasn't upped his game. Last time I checked hadn't scored a hundred or a taken a 4 or 5 wicket haul in test cricket. He needs to do something special in at least one facet.

I know his current test stats are decent but if he doesnt improve then I would look at other options. Unless of course if it satisfies us in Pakistan being a mid tier test team.

He should have got atleast one 4 or 5 wicket haul in tests but getting 100s batting at 8 is tough due to batting with the tail.

 

[shamaan]

Pakistan should play Shaheen,Naseem and Rauf if they go with 3 fast bowlers and 2 spinners.I would definitely not pick wasim in any 4 man attack or 5 man attack

 

[MenInG]

Good sign for next Test - Faheem has recovered and back in the squad

 

[shamaan]

Hopefully Fahim is fit for the 2nd test he adds balance to the team.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Pakistan badly missed him in this test. Brings so much balance to the side.

The rest he allows the pacers by bowling tight, economical spells in-between has its worth in gold.

 

[moghul]

Good sign for next Test - Faheem has recovered and back in the squad

Glad he is fit but not sure its good signs for team, team needs a proper bowler who could bat , not him . I would prefer Wasim jr over him.

 

[shamaan]

Glad he is fit but not sure its good signs for team, team needs a proper bowler who could bat , not him . I would prefer Wasim jr over him.

Wasim Jnr who is a tailender compared to fahim and someone who does have control of his lines.

 

[PakEngFan]

Glad he is fit but not sure its good signs for team, team needs a proper bowler who could bat , not him . I would prefer Wasim jr over him.

So you want a no 10 basting at 7. Faheem is miles better then Waseem for tests. It’s not even a debate. Waseem is very poor for tests. It’s beyond me why the selector picked him in first place and even more so how people want him ahead of Faheem. Faheem is million times better batter then tail ender waseem far better bowler for tests and comfortably a better fielder too. Faheem gets a lot of hate for no reason in tests.

 

[PakEngFan]

Wasim Jnr who is a tailender compared to fahim and someone who does have control of his lines.

This waseem is an average cricketer. Not sure where the hype is coming from. Poor bowler batting wise a good no 10.

 

[shamaan]

This waseem is an average cricketer. Not sure where the hype is coming from. Poor bowler batting wise a good no 10.

He maybe ok for limited overs but definitely not in tests

 

[MenInG]

Faheem Ashraf has tested positive in his on-arrival test at the Karachi team hotel and will now undergo isolation for a 5-day period. His replacement (if needed) will be announced in due course

 

[Zaz]

Oh my days...This throws the whole balance of the team out again with no real 5th bowling option

Back to ifti i think

 

[shamaan]

Oh my days...This throws the whole balance of the team out again with no real 5th bowling option

Back to ifti i think

Fine players who get covid more than once.

 

[mon858]

Hmm. Sometimes people test positive for a while after covid. If he has no symptoms just keep double testing him and if by Saturday negative let him play. He can sit separate from team and not join celebrations for first couple days like Hales to be extra cautious.

 

[moghul]

Faheem Ashraf has tested positive in his on-arrival test at the Karachi team hotel and will now undergo isolation for a 5-day period. His replacement (if needed) will be announced in due course

Good news for the team , may be for Faheem too. Sometimes the players who does not play becomes more valuable. His bowling is of no use , even against lower level teams . Lets play a better player at # 7, hope it won;t be Chacha Ifti.

 

[Junaids]

Faheem Ashraf has tested positive in his on-arrival test at the Karachi team hotel and will now undergo isolation for a 5-day period. His replacement (if needed) will be announced in due course

Sheer stupid recklessness.

Why can't people take proper precautions in mid-Pandemic?

 

[MenInG]

Update on Fahim Ashraf: Fahim Ashraf has tested negative in his repeat RAT and has rejoined the squad.

 

[Firebat]

So his positive test was a false positive? Not sure what's gone on here, but thankfully he's back in the squad.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Best news I have heard all week after hearing the worst news I had heard all week, which was him testing positive.

He is so crucial to Pakistan's playing eleven. Hopefully he can deliver the same clutch performances he has been delivering in test cricket as of late.

 

[wrongun]

Hmm usually RAT show negative easier/require a higher viral load to show positive vs a PCR test which is more sensitive. Maybe some creative testing use there!

Pakistan would be better balanced with him or Shadab in the team I think. Wasn't impressed with Sajid at all.

 

[moghul]

That's a depressing news, I don't like bits and pieces players in tests, its a format for specialists . Will bowl some benign overs and some 20-30 runs at the most.

 

[shamaan]

Excellent news for Pakistan fahim provides balance to the team.

 

[MenInG]

So its him or Hassan for 2nd Test? or will he replace Iftikhar Ahmed?

 

[PakEngFan]

That's a depressing news, I don't like bits and pieces players in tests, its a format for specialists . Will bowl some benign overs and some 20-30 runs at the most.

Excellent news for Pakistani fans depressing news for wasim jnr fans. Calling Faheem bits and pieces and then supporting wasim. Then again you think younis is a UAE bully.

 

[shamaan]

So its him or Hassan for 2nd Test? or will he replace Iftikhar Ahmed?

Both should play instead of Iftikhar and Naseem

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Hope he isn't rusty.
He's been batting very well in tests since his return last year. His bowling is lacking bite. He needs to improve his bowling. I am not sure if Shaun Tait is the guy to help him improve his bowling.
If he can add seam to his bowling, he can start taking regular wickets.

 

[MenInG]

Lovely ball to remove Warner.

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[DRsohail]

Good spell, he has been good .

 

[shamaan]

Stunning catch by Fahim espically after being in the field for 80+

 

[MenInG]

2nd wicket for Faheem...

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[MenInG]

Done by Green!

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[Kianig89]

I wonder what is his role can't hold a bat mediocre bowler is there any better player than him avialbale

 

[Zaz]

I wonder what is his role can't hold a bat mediocre bowler is there any better player than him avialbale

its vital if faheem plays he contibutes with both bat and ball and say avge 30\30 ie capable of taking 5fers and making 100s

we cant have a situation where hes playing as a bits and pieces cricketer

id rather then pakistan play a specialist than someone who is master of none

 

[Amjid Javed]

fake all rounder aka Klusener from wish needs tp be dropped.

 

[Saj]

Imran Khan......Wasim Akram......Abdul Razzaq.......and now Faheem Ashraf.

Doesn't sound right does it.

Definitely a weak link and the pace bowling all-rounder is a position that Pakistan needs to address as a matter of urgency.

 

[gazza619]

I expect him to come back stronger in the next game. Unfortunately he is the best we got.

 

[moghul]

Imran Khan......Wasim Akram......Abdul Razzaq.......and now Faheem Ashraf.

Doesn't sound right does it.

Definitely a weak link and the pace bowling all-rounder is a position that Pakistan needs to address as a matter of urgency.

Unless we get rid of this bits and pieces player , we won't unearth any new talent. He has been given ( wasted ) 5 years of international cricket with no gain , time to give someone else couple of series. He is lucky he didn;t have much competition and he kept on playing . Some 20-30 runs in a match and 1-2 wicket in some other match, thats all he has been doing. If we don't have a pace bowing allrounder , on Asian wickets Shadab or Mohammad Zawaz is OK, in SENA, Wasim Jn needs to be tested.

 

[moghul]

Imran Khan......Wasim Akram......Abdul Razzaq.......and now Faheem Ashraf.

Doesn't sound right does it.

Definitely a weak link and the pace bowling all-rounder is a position that Pakistan needs to address as a matter of urgency.

I would not mix Razzaq with the legends like IK and WA. He was OK, even Azhar Mehmood was better than him.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Imran Khan......Wasim Akram......Abdul Razzaq.......and now Faheem Ashraf.

Doesn't sound right does it.

Definitely a weak link and the pace bowling all-rounder is a position that Pakistan needs to address as a matter of urgency.

Not good enough as a 3rd seamer in Asia conditions and his batting is not that of a test number 7.

 

[Savak]

He had a bad test match. His test performances with the bat were good before this.

 

[Concerned]

Tracking to be a second Azhar Mahmood.

 

[Zaz]

Unless we get rid of this bits and pieces player , we won't unearth any new talent. He has been given ( wasted ) 5 years of international cricket with no gain , time to give someone else couple of series. He is lucky he didn;t have much competition and he kept on playing . Some 20-30 runs in a match and 1-2 wicket in some other match, thats all he has been doing. If we don't have a pace bowing allrounder , on Asian wickets Shadab or Mohammad Zawaz is OK, in SENA, Wasim Jn needs to be tested.

I dont think theres anyone of enough quality that can nail the number 7 position and be the quality all rounder pakistan need

We really shouldnt play anyone other than a specialist batter or bowler if the all round quality isnt there

 

[Bewal Express]

He has the worst seam of any bowler I have ever seen at the international level. How the hell can an international bowler not land the ball on somewhere near the seam? I have never seen a club not do that. I dont mind the scrambled seam as a variation but when you can barely move the ball with this variation, but surely the penny would have dropped by now

 

[PakEngFan]

Can people please suggest an alternative other then wasim jnr who’s batting is no way near nauman Ali level. What talent is he blocking. The fact is that he is the best of the worst bunch and by far.

 

[badsha001]

is Nawaz still injured?

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Looked rusty with the bat in both innings or probably Lyon was just too good for him.

 

[shamaan]

I wonder what is his role can't hold a bat mediocre bowler is there any better player than him avialbale

He was the best bowler in the first Innings.

 

[alwiarif46]

Faheem not good enough

He was the best bowler in the first Innings.

It's not about a match or an innings. It's more about what you can do more often than not. What can you offer consistently for 3 games out of 5.

And consistently Fahim is nothing. I liked him and thought he was the solution for us after Abdul Razzaq left but no he is nowhere close to the solution but an addition to the problem.

The captain has it in his subconscious that he has a batsman while batting and a bowler while bowling but really there is neither.

The only role he has played well enough till now is that he has provided rest to our fast bowlers.

He needs to go to domestic improve a lot in batting and some in his bowling and then try to come back.

 

[moghul]

It's not about a match or an innings. It's more about what you can do more often than not. What can you offer consistently for 3 games out of 5.

And consistently Fahim is nothing. I liked him and thought he was the solution for us after Abdul Razzaq left but no he is nowhere close to the solution but an addition to the problem.

The captain has it in his subconscious that he has a batsman while batting and a bowler while bowling but really there is neither.

The only role he has played well enough till now is that he has provided rest to our fast bowlers.

He needs to go to domestic improve a lot in batting and some in his bowling and then try to come back.

If after 9 FC seasons and 5 years of international cricket he remains a mediocre bit and pieces player, time to move on from him .

 

[Zaz]

Im willing to give him the benefit of doubt this game as its his first test for a while and hes had covid etc

Lets see what he does in the next test

Like i said As an all rounder he needs to perform with both bat and ball and say avge 30-30 or 35-35

He cant be playing just to provide rest to our pacers

 

[shamaan]

It's not about a match or an innings. It's more about what you can do more often than not. What can you offer consistently for 3 games out of 5.

And consistently Fahim is nothing. I liked him and thought he was the solution for us after Abdul Razzaq left but no he is nowhere close to the solution but an addition to the problem.

The captain has it in his subconscious that he has a batsman while batting and a bowler while bowling but really there is neither.

The only role he has played well enough till now is that he has provided rest to our fast bowlers.

He needs to go to domestic improve a lot in batting and some in his bowling and then try to come back.

He offers control and has been batting decently well in the last couple tours.Thiers no other solution for a pace bowling all rounder.Wasim Jnr will leak runs and is not a number 7.you could go with a spinning all rounder instead of a pacer but then the balance isn't right.