[PICTURES/VIDEOS] "There is a huge difference in the Umar Amin of 2010 with the one of today" : Umar Amin

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Regarded as a promising batting talent when he made his international debut in a One-day international against Sri Lanka in 2010, Umar Amin has so far struggled to find a regular place in the Pakistan side playing just 4 Tests, 16 ODIs and 14 T20Is. Whilst his performances last season at the domestic level may have been below par, he has scored 8462 runs at the First-class level at an average just under 40, since his debut in 2007.

In an exclusive interview with PakPassion.net, Umar Amin spoke about his impressions of the changes made to the domestic system by the PCB, the disappointment of playing just one match in PSL 5, why he has not managed to establish himself at the international level and his hopes of making a comeback to the Pakistan side.



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PakPassion.net: Are you concerned by the fact that you struggled to perform in the 2019/20 domestic season?

Umar Amin:
Yes, it is true that I did not perform according to my own expectations in the previous domestic season where I scored 612 runs. Whilst I would have loved to score more runs during this period, one cannot call this season a failure by any means. Of course, I do realize that to make a comeback to the Pakistan team, I would have had to have scored over 800 runs which I did not, but then again, it’s a little unfair to judge my ability based on just one season. In fact, if we consider the 2015-2019 period, I am amongst the top 5 batsmen in terms of runs scored in the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy, which does speak volumes about my capabilities.


PakPassion.net: What are the positives of the new 6-team domestic system introduced in the 2019/20 season?

Umar Amin:
I feel that the reduction of the number of sides has resulted in a much more competitive brand of cricket and the PCB has preferred quality over quantity which will greatly benefit Pakistan cricket. The use of the Kookaburra ball for domestic games was needed to ensure that the gap between domestic and international cricket was reduced as much as possible and that is what’s happened during this season. Apart from that, a lot of emphasis has been put on improving the quality of pitches to bring them as close as possible to international standards. All of these measures have resulted in a much better quality of competition in domestic cricket.


PakPassion.net: Are you concerned about the number of domestic players who may have lost their jobs due to the abolition of departmental cricket?

Umar Amin:
The simple answer is that like every change that is made in any sphere of life, we need to allow some time for this new system to settle down and for all pros and cons to be analysed, before being too critical. PCB to its immense credit has put in a lot of effort to accommodate some of the senior players who have served their departmental teams with distinction for many years and they have been given bowling and batting coach roles or appointed as mentors. Let’s give the new system some time to take shape before we make any judgements about its utility to Pakistan cricket.


PakPassion.net: Were you disappointed playing just one game in the 2020 edition of the PSL?

Umar Amin:
It goes without saying that I was disappointed. I had done reasonably well in PSL 4 and was expecting to be given some more chances in front of home crowds, but that did not happen. It was possibly a case of the team management coming to the conclusion that I was unsuitable for the team combination. So, they had to juggle with the requirement of playing 4 overseas players, had to accommodate Shoaib Malik and they also could not ignore the talent of Haider Ali. All this meant that not only I but even Imam-ul-Haq did not get much game-time.


PakPassion.net: You looked very good on Test debut in 2010 but have only played 4 Tests so far. Why do you think you’ve not had more chances?

Umar Amin:
This question really needs to be directed to people who are responsible for selection as this is something I cannot answer. All I can say is that I did what was in my hands which was to perform well in domestic cricket and on ‘A’ team tours but failed to get opportunities to play more than 4 Tests. There was a glimmer of hope in the series against South Africa in 2013 where it seemed I would get a chance for a comeback but that did not happen and I suppose that is part and parcel of cricket.


PakPassion.net: Do you feel that you have missed out on chances to represent Pakistan simply due to bad luck?

Umar Amin:
I do feel that luck plays an important part in how one's career moves forward at the international level. Some cricketers have been lucky enough to have progressed in international cricket very quickly but others like me have had to wait. Misbah-ul-Haq is a good example of such a player who had to wait for a long time to establish himself in the national side. I feel that I still have time left in my career to make a comeback and am putting all my energies towards this goal.


PakPassion.net: It must have been demotivating that despite being classed as a future Test captain, you have not played many times in this format for Pakistan?

Umar Amin:
There is always disappointment when you are unable to reach the goals and aims that you set for yourself at the start of your career. But this is where the people around you, such as friends and family, have a positive effect on you by supporting you and lifting you. I would like to thank my family who were there at difficult times and it's due to their efforts that I have been able to lift myself after a few disappointments in my career.

It's easy to say that one feels disappointed after being dropped from the Pakistan side after being labelled as a future captain for the national side, but the fact is that it is absolutely devastating for a player when he goes through this situation in his career. But it's also a fact that in order to become a great player, one has to go through such adversities and still keep a positive mindset, and this is also how I wish to conduct myself.


PakPassion.net: Do you accept that your batting may have deficiencies that have prevented your selection?

Umar Amin:
The fact is that no one is perfect and every player has some deficiencies which he needs to overcome. If you were to ask the top names in cricket, they would all say that they are not perfect and still have a great deal to learn to improve their skills further. If I had deficiencies that were so critical to my progress then I would never have been asked to play for Pakistan 34 times. I do accept that I still have a lot to learn but to say that I haven’t progressed in international cricket due to deficiencies will be wrong and to prove that, I will once again refer you to my overall record since 2015 which shows that I have improved a lot and my performances have been consistently good.


PakPassion.net: Do you believe that you were asked to play in formats which did not really suit your game?

Umar Amin:
I do not agree with this assessment as I feel that whilst my style of play may be distinctive, I have no issues in playing all formats. If we look at my record from 2015 onwards, there is no doubt that I am equally comfortable in red-ball and white-ball cricket. If I had one weakness in my game, it would probably be that I was less consistent in the early part my career but that is all history now.


PakPassion.net: Why do you think you lacked that consistency and how have you gone about fixing that problem?

Umar Amin: I have worked very hard to improve this problem of inconsistent performances and have tried to enhance my concentration levels as before I was lacking in this area. The idea was to work on my consistency so that I would be able to follow up on a good performance with another good performance and so on and my recent record shows that I have been successful in that endeavour. I think there is an impression of my suitability for Test match cricket only based upon my performances in the early part of my international career. But since then, I have worked on my fitness and my power game to bring it in line with the demands of the modern game where aggression is needed during certain match situations. Put simply, there is a huge difference in the Umar Amin of 2010 with the one of today.


PakPassion.net: Are orthodox batsmen not the flavour of the month in cricket anymore?

Umar Amin:
In terms of providing entertainment for the audiences and what it means to make the game more useful in financial terms for players and teams, a hard-hitting batsman is much more attractive than a batsman who plays proper shots. The entertainment aspect of cricket seems to be given a lot of importance as we see in the way new T20 and T10 leagues have sprung up in recent times. But for people who truly love and understand the game, the only real format is Test cricket. This is the only format which brings the sort of intensity that does not exist elsewhere in cricket. True fans will appreciate a match situation more where a team has 2 wickets remaining and needs 15 runs to win, with the close of play on the 5th day fast approaching, compared to a situation where 3 balls are left and 6 runs needed to win in a T20 game. Is it, therefore, any surprise that the world’s top Test batsman, Steve Smith, has such a large fan following?


PakPassion.net: At 30 years of age, how hopeful are you of making a comeback in international cricket?

Umar Amin:
I am totally optimistic about my future in international cricket and God Willing, I will soon make a comeback for my country. It is my aim to play as much as possible for Pakistan rather than spend the rest of my career playing just domestic cricket and hopefully. I will be successful in my goals.
 
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He isn't good enough.

Was unlucky the way he's been treated, but time to move on.

Saud Shakeel is much better.

And Abdullah Shafique is 10X better.

We must look at the new generation.

Saud Shakeel
Abdullah Shafique
Saif Badar
Muhammed Huraira
Muhammed Haris
Haider Ali
Ali Zaryab

Look to these guys. Forget these 30+ year olds.
 
Highly unlikely. Even in recent past he was not good enough (2-3 years ago). But considering he is approaching 30 he will have good chance to play for Pakistan under Misbah.
 
he should have been given more chances he is a very classy batsman.Consistency was the issue with him but if he is given chance now he can prove his worth but I m not sure if he will get any chance.
 
Should have played for Pakistan a lot more than he has.

Some players just don't raise their game to the international level.

There's still time for him though.
 
He should’ve been what Babar Azam is today. He was treated unfairly his whole career.

InSha’Allah he will represent Pakistan in all 3 formats very soon.
 
I havent lost hope in Amin just yet. Needs to be given another go, specially in tests.
 
That may be true - 10 years is a long time and batsmen can be very different at ages 20 vs 30. That said, Amin still isn't a top domestic performer, in fact he's quite ordinary. Definitely hasn't earned a national call-up.

He was the 14th highest run-scorer in the last QAE, with a really weak average of 32
 
when so many 35 + and approaching 40 players, who have been much less productive for long can keep on playing for Pakistan , why not this guy be given another chance at 30. He is still one of the best in Pakistan.
 
Umar Amin isn't a player who has any special quality in him. He is just a mediocre batsman really. Was given a few chances and didn't take them. Overall he's quite meh.

Specially with plenty of young openers coming through, don't see him in Pakistan setup.
 
You averaged 32 on dead flat pitches with the Kookaburra ball this season where QEA Trophy was of a much higher standard compared to the past.

There's no case for his selection.
 
Seems to get pretty defensive in some of his answers. Have had a bit of a soft spot for him, but needs to put in the performances to be selected.
 
He is a lovely lad, very personable and down to earth and nothing would give me more pleasure to see him succeed but sadly it won't happen for him. He is late on the ball and that's not a good sign.
 
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Umar Amin should be a test bat in near future. I strongly believe he should take over the batting position of 3 from Azhar Ali in test format.

It is already evidenced how Shan Masood returned a different player after spending time in domestics and I have the same feeling about Amin.

Not playing a test match since 2010 is criminally unfair on him without a doubt.
 
Umar Amin should be a test bat in near future. I strongly believe he should take over the batting position of 3 from Azhar Ali in test format.

It is already evidenced how Shan Masood returned a different player after spending time in domestics and I have the same feeling about Amin.

Not playing a test match since 2010 is criminally unfair on him without a doubt.

He definitely makes my T20 world cup XI.
 
LAHORE - Pakistani batsman Umar Amin believes he performed well in domestic cricket and on ‘A’ team tours but he failed to get opportunities to play more than four Tests.

“This question really needs to be directed to people who are responsible for selection as this is something I cannot answer. All I can say is that I did what was in my hands, which was to perform well in domestic cricket and on ‘A’ team tours but failed to get opportunities to play more than 4 Tests.

There was a glimmer of hope in the series against South Africa in 2013 where it seemed I would get a chance for a comeback but that did not happen and I suppose that is part and parcel of cricket,” Pakpassion.net quoted him as saying.

Amin, who scored 59 runs in four Tests, said he feels that luck plays an important part in how one’s career moves forward at the international level.

“Some cricketers have been lucky enough to have progressed in international cricket very quickly but others like me have had to wait. Former Pakistani Skipper and current head coach Misbah-ul-Haq is a good example of such a player who had to wait for a long time to establish himself in the national side. I feel that I still have time left in my career to make a comeback and am putting all my energies towards this goal,” he said.

https://nation.com.pk/01-Aug-2020/i-failed-to-get-opportunities-umar-amin
 
Well done to PakPassion, your forum has the potential to work closely with PCB electronic media and give voice to our cricket on social media platforms.

On Amin, I would say he needs another good domestic season.
 
Should have played for Pakistan a lot more than he has.

Some players just don't raise their game to the international level.

There's still time for him though.

Based on what?

Even in domestics he is not crossing the 40 average mark in FC in most seasons.

He is eons behind other domestic batsmen in the batting charts.

Like there is literally no case for him to be picked.

Even when he was picked in 2010 he was not picked on his record which was a very mediocre one. I remember his FC average was mid 30s (still hasnt crossed 40). Rather he was selected on 'look' and 'potential' which clearly did not pan out.
 
He should’ve been what Babar Azam is today. He was treated unfairly his whole career.

InSha’Allah he will represent Pakistan in all 3 formats very soon.

Based on what? He was given 4 Tests, 16 ODIs and 14 T20Is despite failing to average even 40 in any of those formats at domestic level.

In 34 international cricket matches (THIRTY FOUR is a HUGE number of chances) he has ONLY ONE fifty. Just one fifty in so many chances.

Others have been treated unfairly on his expense. He has been actually very lucky to get that many chances without even setting world alight at domestic level. We have other batsmen grinding away at domestic level year after year topping the run charts and never getting chances and here you are claiming he has been treated unfairly??? Like seriously? Where does this victimhood even come from?

I agree he 'looks' a great player and if he had succeeded he would have been a batsman with a very beautiful, attractive game similar to Babar Azam. And that is why I feel for such 'potential' there is an argument to fast track them to the side and give them chances. So I am fine with Umar Amin getting chances despite an average domestic record at the time of his debut 10 yeas ago. However he failed miserably despite 30+ chances so once you have that you really need to cut your losses as a team. There is no basis in claiming unfair treatment.
 
Even in recent years in domestics, Umar Amin has hardly set the world alight.

The following is his domestic FC average in recent years:

2015/16: 50.87
2016/17 23.00
2017/18: 38.07
2018/19: 56.00
2019/20: 32.21

So in the last five years he has only had 2 good seasons and some really mediocre ones. In only one season was he among the top 5 scorers (which is a poor indicator anyway because the best batsmen don't get to play whole season due to national duty). Regardless the fact is he has not really been dominating FC cricket for there to be an argument for unfair treatment. Guys like Abid Ali and Fawad averaged 45+ pretty much each season (70+ sometimes) and had to wait ages for a chance and yet Umar Amin with 2 out of 5 good seasons is gonna claim that he wasn't given chances?
 
After the conclusion of current England tour someone needs to look into Umar Amin and focus on his performance in the next domestic tournament.

I feel he should be part of NZ test series, he had a good T20 series there couple of years back.
 
He has a good technique and shot range. It is really difficult to understand why he hasn't had a successful international career. Being in and out of the team didn't help his development in my opinion.
 
Even in recent years in domestics, Umar Amin has hardly set the world alight.

The following is his domestic FC average in recent years:

2015/16: 50.87
2016/17 23.00
2017/18: 38.07
2018/19: 56.00
2019/20: 32.21

So in the last five years he has only had 2 good seasons and some really mediocre ones. In only one season was he among the top 5 scorers (which is a poor indicator anyway because the best batsmen don't get to play whole season due to national duty). Regardless the fact is he has not really been dominating FC cricket for there to be an argument for unfair treatment. Guys like Abid Ali and Fawad averaged 45+ pretty much each season (70+ sometimes) and had to wait ages for a chance and yet Umar Amin with 2 out of 5 good seasons is gonna claim that he wasn't given chances?

Should be selected for the NZ series again.

Based on what? Check his domestic record over the years.
 
Chasing 222 for victory today, Umar scored 51 off 42 balls. Not very impressive at all.
 
Should have tried much more in the first 6 overs especially considering the long batting lineup of Northern. With so much domestic experience you expect much better match awareness to be honest. Yes on certain days you struggle to hit the ball but him getting out trying that would have been acceptable than trying to stay on the crease in a T20 match while chasing 222.
 
Not a good innings in context of game, not a fan of his T20 career either.

What would work best for him and Pakistan would be for him to perform in QEA and stake a claim in test line-up, that is where he belongs not in T20s.
 
Very rarely does a 51 of 42..6 fours and 2 sixes look like such a poor innings. In the context of 222 sure does
 
Imad is definitely not happy with that innings at all :inti

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So this is the Umar Amin of 2020.

By 2070, he would have cracked it. And would be the perfect age for Misbah to coach him. :batman:
 
If that's what Imad is saying in public, I wager Umar Amin would've copped an absolute rocket in the change room :))
 
Imad being brutally honest he may dropped umar or move him down the order
 
Very poor innings looks like played for himself to cement his place in the semi final
 
Umar Amin with 94 (181) for Northern today vs CP in the QEA Trophy.
 
On Day 1 of Round 2 of QeA20:

With 62 runs from 129 balls, Umar Amin was the only batsman amongst Northern top six to post a substantial score. The left-handed batsman struck six fours and a six.
 
Umar Amin and Mohammad Nawaz helped Northern secure a draw against Balochistan at the National Bank Sports Complex. (Round 4 of QeA20):

Northern were set 394 to win. They managed 385 for eight in 84 overs.

Umar recorded his career’s 21st century with a 162-ball 123.

He joined Nawaz, who scored 180-ball 95, at the crease with Northern struggling at 62 for four courtesy Kashif Bhatti – who had dismissed three of the top four batsmen by then and finished the innings with a five-fer, his 20th at this level.

The pair put a 123-run alliance for the fifth wicket.
 
You are right.

You were a mentally weak 20 year old in 2010 and now you are a mentally weak 30 year old.
 
Mentally weak, yet almost chased 400 today on Day 4 of a 4-day match.

The squad for NZ has already been announced, he is not in contention etc.

Whenever there is spotlight on him he buckles under pressure.

I think there is a good batsman in him but after 10 years, it is quite obvious that he is not mentally strong enough to handle pressure.

You play him in international cricket and PSL and he will continue to falter.
 
He is so pleasing on the eyes.He should have played a lot more games.He should have been given more consistent chances.On new Zealand tour he would have been much better choice than that tailender fawad alam.I hope he gets his chance after this QEA trophy.He still has 4-5 years left.
 
He is so pleasing on the eyes.He should have played a lot more games.He should have been given more consistent chances.On new Zealand tour he would have been much better choice than that tailender fawad alam.I hope he gets his chance after this QEA trophy.He still has 4-5 years left.

With 15 ODIs and 4 Tests he can hardly complain about not being given enough chances... he was given chances. Unfortunately he is mentally weak and buckled under pressure.
 
The squad for NZ has already been announced, he is not in contention etc.

Whenever there is spotlight on him he buckles under pressure.

I think there is a good batsman in him but after 10 years, it is quite obvious that he is not mentally strong enough to handle pressure.

You play him in international cricket and PSL and he will continue to falter.

I agree but I see it differently - it shows there is some level of mental resilience that can be worked with. Problem is there is no one in our setup who can take that and elevate it. With Mohammad Wasim in the picture, Umar Amin has suddenly stepped up his game in domestics over the last 2 years.

Effective mental development early on, 10 years ago, and Umar Amin could have been the good batsman you see in him.
 
Didn't realise 10 years have passed since he made his debut.

There are only two age groups that Pakistan cricket fancies, the 18-21s and 30+. Very little in between.
 
Umar Amin should be a test bat in near future. I strongly believe he should take over the batting position of 3 from Azhar Ali in test format.

It is already evidenced how Shan Masood returned a different player after spending time in domestics and I have the same feeling about Amin.

Not playing a test match since 2010 is criminally unfair on him without a doubt.

Spot on . Azhar Ali’s no.3 position will soon become vacant as his performance declined and also now his captaincy is gone. Don’t see him lingering on to the team with poor performances.

More than Umar Amin who blows hot and cold , Imam ul Haq is the best choice to become the permanent no.3 on a long term basis. He might turn out to be the Hashim Amla of Pakistan batting at no.3 in tests and opens the batting in ODIs

In the upcoming test series against NZL , I would try out atleast one of the following options


  1. Abdullah Shafique as opener followed by Azhar Ali at no.3

Since he obviously open for Shaheens 4-day game, not sure this will be tried.


Make Azhar Ali open the batting and play Imam ul Haq at no.3
Azhar Ali had great success as an opener all around the world. Now he is not the captain and if he is smart enough then surely he can surely fare better than any of the other opener partnering him.

I strongly feel Imam will be the right choice to be the no.3 and this move will do a lot of good for both Azhar and Imam and Pakistan. As batsmen will be clear knowing their role and positions in the team, performance will follow.

For Umar Amin to be at no.3 will lose him another chance to strongly establish his consistent run in the team , he should be planning and fighting for Haris Sohail position since Haris is more vulnerable with his fitness which Amin can beat it easily. Runs wise so far Haris has not shown a real promise

Ideally in the upcoming NZL series

Shan Masood
Azhar Ali
Imam ul Haq
Babar
Haris
Haider Ali/Shadab
 
We should have a “bat off” in the Shaheens series the way Australia does it.

Abdullah, Imam, Imran Butt should be the top 3 in that series and see who does the best.
 
Spot on . Azhar Ali’s no.3 position will soon become vacant as his performance declined and also now his captaincy is gone. Don’t see him lingering on to the team with poor performances.

More than Umar Amin who blows hot and cold , Imam ul Haq is the best choice to become the permanent no.3 on a long term basis. He might turn out to be the Hashim Amla of Pakistan batting at no.3 in tests and opens the batting in ODIs

In the upcoming test series against NZL , I would try out atleast one of the following options


  1. Abdullah Shafique as opener followed by Azhar Ali at no.3

Since he obviously open for Shaheens 4-day game, not sure this will be tried.


Make Azhar Ali open the batting and play Imam ul Haq at no.3
Azhar Ali had great success as an opener all around the world. Now he is not the captain and if he is smart enough then surely he can surely fare better than any of the other opener partnering him.

I strongly feel Imam will be the right choice to be the no.3 and this move will do a lot of good for both Azhar and Imam and Pakistan. As batsmen will be clear knowing their role and positions in the team, performance will follow.

For Umar Amin to be at no.3 will lose him another chance to strongly establish his consistent run in the team , he should be planning and fighting for Haris Sohail position since Haris is more vulnerable with his fitness which Amin can beat it easily. Runs wise so far Haris has not shown a real promise

Ideally in the upcoming NZL series

Shan Masood
Azhar Ali
Imam ul Haq
Babar
Haris
Haider Ali/Shadab

Imaam ul haq has short ball weakness he will get eaten by the short ball.you want shadab at number 6 ! He should bat at 7 weres your wicket keeper going to bat ?
 
Imaam should not play in sena in tests hes to vulnerable outside the off stump and has a short ball weakness!
 
Imaam ul haq has short ball weakness he will get eaten by the short ball.you want shadab at number 6 ! He should bat at 7 weres your wicket keeper going to bat ?

Pakistan had 4 middle order batsman and they are not used to having an all rounder which I would encourage to have that’s why Shadab at 6

In the past if you see there was Azhar, Younis, Misbah , Asad forming the middle order.

Even in the last series they tried Shadab only in the first test which they come close to a win

Remaining two matches it was Azhar, Babar, Asad, Fawad forming the middle order

So that’s why I vouch for Shadab to bat at 6 and Rizwan at 7 , if they are going to have a batsman at no.6 then they should go for Haider Ali.

Imam yes in the past had a weakness to short balls, but he has worked on that weakness, just not getting the right amount of time in the middle. But who doesn’t have have weakness to short balls , even babar has for that matter should we send him at no.7 then. I see him as future no.3 if proper run given.

The point is Imam who was an opener basically will also help the cause coming in at no.3. Also his FC record is very good .
 
Pakistan had 4 middle order batsman and they are not used to having an all rounder which I would encourage to have that’s why Shadab at 6

In the past if you see there was Azhar, Younis, Misbah , Asad forming the middle order.

Even in the last series they tried Shadab only in the first test which they come close to a win

Remaining two matches it was Azhar, Babar, Asad, Fawad forming the middle order

So that’s why I vouch for Shadab to bat at 6 and Rizwan at 7 , if they are going to have a batsman at no.6 then they should go for Haider Ali.

Imam yes in the past had a weakness to short balls, but he has worked on that weakness, just not getting the right amount of time in the middle. But who doesn’t have have weakness to short balls , even babar has for that matter should we send him at no.7 then. I see him as future no.3 if proper run given.

The point is Imam who was an opener basically will also help the cause coming in at no.3. Also his FC record is very good .

That's fine but rizwan should bat at 6 he is a proper bateman.shadab can take on the attack at 7 at the moment until he gets more experience .as for haider he should not play against New Zealand it's the toughest place in the world along australia but in future he can be brought in.

Babar only struggles when its tight to his body I think his average is 37 and 113 when its wide outside of stump.in odis I havent seen him get out to a short ball if he has its only limited.didnt imaam get hit by a bouncer in asain conditions.

I think hes a good Bateman imaam in odis he scored alot of runs like you stated if he has improved on a short deliveries then give him ago.but we have some young emerging players come up like Abdullah haider omair bin yousuf saud shakeel imran butt
 
Northern’s Umar Amin’s 22nd first-class century dominated the second day of his team’s contest against Southern Punjab at the UBL Sports Complex.

The 31-year-old left-handed batsman scored 102 runs in an innings studded with 11 fours and two sixes.

Over the course of his 150-ball stay at the wicket, Umar stitched a 103-run partnership with Mohammad Nawaz (43 off 61 balls, four fours) to help Northern post an imposing 381 all out.
 
Based on what? Check his domestic record over the years.
Some players are meant to be domestic legends but failure at international level. Being an Indian fan who likes elegant players, I am schoked to see Amin’s domestic stats. I saw him play for Pakistan once. He got out cheaply but during his brief stay at the crease he looked elegant and comfortable just like Babar. He didn’t premeditated but rather played on merit and timed the ball. I cringe when batsmen like Shahzad, Umar etc premeditate, clear front leg and slog over mid wicket.
 
Some players are meant to be domestic legends but failure at international level. Being an Indian fan who likes elegant players, I am schoked to see Amin’s domestic stats. I saw him play for Pakistan once. He got out cheaply but during his brief stay at the crease he looked elegant and comfortable just like Babar. He didn’t premeditated but rather played on merit and timed the ball. I cringe when batsmen like Shahzad, Umar etc premeditate, clear front leg and slog over mid wicket.

He was/is definitely elegant. No wonder he was called CLH (ie Classy Left). Older poster here would get the joke.
 
Some players are meant to be domestic legends but failure at international level. Being an Indian fan who likes elegant players, I am schoked to see Amin’s domestic stats. I saw him play for Pakistan once. He got out cheaply but during his brief stay at the crease he looked elegant and comfortable just like Babar. He didn’t premeditated but rather played on merit and timed the ball. I cringe when batsmen like Shahzad, Umar etc premeditate, clear front leg and slog over mid wicket.

You're right, I love watching CLH bat, he has been poor man's David Gower for me. Its sad he had not secured a permanent place in Pak team. I'm still hopeful but time is running out fast for him.
 
115* today for Northern vs Balochistan - looks in good touch and should be interesting to see how high he ends up in the batting table in the tournament.
 
From PCB report:

An unbeaten 115-run innings off 136 balls (seven fours, two sixes) by Umar Amin guided Northern to their 285 for seven score after they were put into bat by Balochistan at the UBL Sports Complex.

The left-handed Umar added 106 runs for the fourth-wicket with captain Mohammad Nawaz who scored 60 off 65 balls with the help of six fours.
 
From PCB report:

An unbeaten 115-run innings off 136 balls (seven fours, two sixes) by Umar Amin guided Northern to their 285 for seven score after they were put into bat by Balochistan at the UBL Sports Complex.

The left-handed Umar added 106 runs for the fourth-wicket with captain Mohammad Nawaz who scored 60 off 65 balls with the help of six fours.

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Umar Amin has been picked up by Islamabad for the Abu Dhabi leg of PSL6.
 
He's been given an opportunity to impress in the PSL.

Let's see how he does as time is running out for him.
 
Yes. The one of today is infinite times worse.

Feel he was given a bad stick for being selected and then dropped. Still remember his sixes off of Sodhi that won us a t20.

Still a good one day player but needs to put the work in.
 
Feel he was given a bad stick for being selected and then dropped. Still remember his sixes off of Sodhi that won us a t20.

Still a good one day player but needs to put the work in.

He looks easy to the eye. Decent technique. Plays elegant strokes. It is a mystery to me why he couldn't make it big at the international level. He should had scored atleast 8k international runs by now.
 
He looks easy to the eye. Decent technique. Plays elegant strokes. It is a mystery to me why he couldn't make it big at the international level. He should had scored atleast 8k international runs by now.

Yep, i think again it's management to blame and also not utilising his skills where best placed i.e. t20 and odi
 
He was destined to be an opener but Pakistan cricket management (Waqar Younis/Misbah) thought the guy is a middle order bat
 
He was destined to be an opener but Pakistan cricket management (Waqar Younis/Misbah) thought the guy is a middle order bat

Well even in middle order no consistent chances.

The options they got to try where danish aziz, asif hackali in the middle order

Now saud shakeel who looks like not ready for intl cricket with poor technique to play the modern game of cricket.

Umar Amin was way better than these players. I’m surprised that even Micky didn’t give him a good run.

Even in his last t20 in NZL he smashed three sixes in the penultimate over which helped Pakistan to win the game.

Hammad Azam and Umar Amin are 2 good intl prospect wasted by Waqar/Misbah a lot.
 
He was destined to be an opener but Pakistan cricket management (Waqar Younis/Misbah) thought the guy is a middle order bat

Yes. He is in the mould of Harris Sohail/Nasir Jamshed type. Classic player for top 3 position. I cant understand why he was made to bat at positons 5,6,7. He is not a power hitter. He has never showcased finishing skills either. I feel he was discarded to make sure team management can establish parchi openers like Shan Masood (tests) and Imam (ODI).
 
Tbh, he was hard done by Mickey. He was at the door the whole Mickey era but Mickey did him bad, even after that T20 where he smashed 3 sixes off the no 1 T20 bowler. Injury-prone Haris was preferred. And now he's not been at the same level since. Has regressed and doesn't look any close to the national team.
After the Mis-You era, he could've been given a go but clearly Mickey wasn't a big fan.
He was picked too early and when he was of international level, he wasn't given a go.
Much like Yamin who also had to suffer at the hands of Mickey, albeit a very successful last international outing.
 
He was destined to be an opener but Pakistan cricket management (Waqar Younis/Misbah) thought the guy is a middle order bat


The guy was not good enough for test. I have watched each and every game of Umar Amin.

You know, back in 2010, Azhar Ali and Asad Shafiq would have not even gotten a chance if Umar Amin had performed.

Umar Amin was selected in the Asia Cup, did nothing. He went on the England tour and did nothing. He was dropped and after a few years he was selected in 2013. He got a full run than. He was given 12 odis in 2013

Out of 34 matches he has played, he only scored a 50 once. A guy who got that many chances, you cant argue that he was destined to do this or that.

He got his chance before Azhar and Asad Shafiq.

Infact, Naveed Yasin, who was suppose to get selected got injured at the end time back in 2010 and he never got a match.

Azhar Ali performed on the word go
 
Tbh, he was hard done by Mickey. He was at the door the whole Mickey era but Mickey did him bad, even after that T20 where he smashed 3 sixes off the no 1 T20 bowler. Injury-prone Haris was preferred. And now he's not been at the same level since. Has regressed and doesn't look any close to the national team.
After the Mis-You era, he could've been given a go but clearly Mickey wasn't a big fan.
He was picked too early and when he was of international level, he wasn't given a go.
Much like Yamin who also had to suffer at the hands of Mickey, albeit a very successful last international outing.

how many chances did Umar Amin need?
He got a run thrice.

Let me tell you one thing, career averages dont lie.
If you average below 40, you are not good enough. During his whole career i have seen him avg 37 in domestic. He made his debut with that average.

He was overhyped, and just in the first series he was exposed. Yet he got a good run in 2010. After that 2013. THan a third run was given to him in 2018. It was a short run but it was justified as it was his third chance and by your third chance you cant have a long extended run.

Asad Shafiq has done a better job than him
 
how many chances did Umar Amin need?
He got a run thrice.

Let me tell you one thing, career averages dont lie.
If you average below 40, you are not good enough. During his whole career i have seen him avg 37 in domestic. He made his debut with that average.

He was overhyped, and just in the first series he was exposed. Yet he got a good run in 2010. After that 2013. THan a third run was given to him in 2018. It was a short run but it was justified as it was his third chance and by your third chance you cant have a long extended run.

Asad Shafiq has done a better job than him

You are missing the point here. He is so "pleasing" to the eye and his "classy" and "elegant" technique should be enough to warrant a place in the team. So what if he was given 34 chances and his domestic record is still under 40.
Even when he got out cheaply numerous times, it looked so classy and pleasing to the eye, and not to forget his walk to the dressing room was very stylish.
 
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