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[PICTURES/VIDEOS] "There is a huge difference in the Umar Amin of 2010 with the one of today" : Umar Amin

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In a stunning display during the seventh round of the President's Trophy 2023-24, SBP's Umar Amin showcased brilliance with a swift innings, amassing 69 off 72 in 1st innings against Ghani Glass on Day 1.
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Umar Amin notches up another consecutive fifty for SBP, smashing an unbeaten 82 off 88 balls in the second innings on Day 2 of the seventh round of the President's Trophy 2023-24 against Ghani Glass.
 
Umar Amin Makes SPL 2024 History with the First Century of the Season

Umar Amin's remarkable century off 51 balls stands as a defining moment for Mirpurkhaas Tigers against Sukkur Patriots.

By the end of his innings he scored 107(55)

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Umar Amin is in top form in SPL 2024, scoring the first century in SPL history. Today his captain's unbeaten knock led Mirpurkhaas Tigers to a win by 7 wickets against Benazirabad Lals in SPL 2024.

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Softie and impactless. Has always been a solid domestic batter but crumbles when the game involves more eyes.
 
In Eliminator 2 of SPL T20 2024, Mirpurkhaas Tigers' Captain Umar Amin showcased an outstanding performance, scoring 71 runs off 43 balls against Karachi Ghazis. Let's see if it will be enough for them to qualify for the final or not.
 
He has been in good touch in President's Trophy 2023-24 and also in SPL 2024. So Why Quetta Gladiators is not giving him chance in playing XI in place of flopped Khawaja Nafay?
 
How long will this difference remain?

Umar Amin part of the Shaheens group called in for a camp.
 
Umar Amin scored 54 off 77 for Pakistan Shaheens against Bangladesh A in the first innings of the 1st Four-Day match between Pakistan Shaheens and Bangladesh A. As the most senior player in the team, he played a responsible innings.
 
Umar Amin for me could have been a proper batsmen for Pakistan at No 4 in odi and t20.

He isn't a flashy Batter but the dude had power and could have made it big. I remember back then when people thought he'd be Pakistan’s Yuvraj, even though I thought was not worthy, he clearly was a solid Batter.

However he came at a wrong time and the team culture didn't help his attitude. He first entered into the scene in 2007 where pakistan was generally in shambles due to a poor wc, and the coach's death.

Afterwards he made his return in 2010 during the spot fixing saga and everything was a mess. Pakistan was in no condition to groom and team build.

Finally he came under the Misbah era and Misbah has always been one of the most clueless captains when it comes to Building and assembling a team and grooming the next gen. I remember when Misbah captained Faisalbad in t20 and he was so full of himself. Misbah scored more the entire team combined and outright discouraged every one on the team in interviews. Again not a surprise since he always does that, Aka the sarfi interview of " I didn't ask my right handers to bat left".

Don't get me wrong, Umar Amin himself didn't do any favours by having a crapola avg and sr, but he came in a wrong era.
 
FearlessRoar said:
Umar Amin scored 54 off 77 for Pakistan Shaheens against Bangladesh A in the first innings of the 1st Four-Day match between Pakistan Shaheens and Bangladesh A. As the most senior player in the team, he played a responsible innings.
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It does not give a pretty picture of Pakistan’s young and upcoming batting talent if 14 years later Umar Amin harbors hope of a comeback.
 
Lol another one trying to be youngsta beauty, Amin is around 35 now , his competitors like Asad Shafiq Fawad Alam played for Pakistan and are long gone,
 
Highlight of his intl career was getting Watson bowled at Headingley.

Other than that never looked like he belonged near intl level. Shouldn't be wasting opportunities on him anymore at this age
 
One of the most committed cricketers in Pakistan, he never gave up and is now a part of the Pak A squad at the age of 34. Instead of playing in leagues of Canada, Uganda, Hong Kong, he is toiling hard in domestic cricket.
 
Pakistan Shaheen's Umar Amin attained ordinary stats in the 2 Four-Day Match series against Bangladesh A in Darwin:

Match: 2

Runs: 90

HS: 54

Average: 30.00

Strike Rate: 60.40
 
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Can be included in the test lineup for next 2 years until we develop a younger like Huraira or Omair to proceed him.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
he is looking in good form, deserve a Test call for Pakistan!
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Let's make him captain as well. I mean considering the fact that every Tom dick and Harry who's 34 amd above gets call ups. Let's give them the honor of captaincy too.

I'm sure the Misbah fandom would be super happy considering Misbah once tried to groom Umar Amin as his successor only to choose azhar Ali later.
 
mominsaigol said:
Let's make him captain as well. I mean considering the fact that every Tom dick and Harry who's 34 amd above gets call ups. Let's give them the honor of captaincy too.

I'm sure the Misbah fandom would be super happy considering Misbah once tried to groom Umar Amin as his successor only to choose azhar Ali later.
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Umar Amin has topped the domestic first class charts over the last three seasons. He’s scored 3000 runs over that time span. Why does his age matter? He is performing and putting up domestic runs. I agree 34 is getting up there but it’s not an absurd threshold. If he is consistently performing then he should be in contention for a call up, simple as that. Its merit, it’s what we all want to see.
 
offstump said:
Umar Amin has topped the domestic first class charts over the last three seasons. He’s scored 3000 runs over that time span. Why does his age matter? He is performing and putting up domestic runs. I agree 34 is getting up there but it’s not an absurd threshold. If he is consistently performing then he should be in contention for a call up, simple as that. Its merit, it’s what we all want to see.
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Because Pakistan needs to focus on the next world cup in 2027 now.

Pakistan needs to play more test cricket as well as county and fc cricket because PSL has completely ruined many players turning them into hacks.

Players of the past like Yousaf, Younis Khan etc improved tremendously by playing county and fc. Theirs a reason why someone like sohaib malik was just never in their class because his constant League exploits had him remain medicore.

Players Like Saud, Abdullah, Tayyab, Salman Ali Agha are the ones who shpuld be short listed for the next odi cup.

It's better to bring falhar zaman back in red ball aka an actual established opener for pakistan and not Umar Amin who isn't lasting till 2027 due to not being main stream.
 
mominsaigol said:
Because Pakistan needs to focus on the next world cup in 2027 now.

Pakistan needs to play more test cricket as well as county and fc cricket because PSL has completely ruined many players turning them into hacks.

Players of the past like Yousaf, Younis Khan etc improved tremendously by playing county and fc. Theirs a reason why someone like sohaib malik was just never in their class because his constant League exploits had him remain medicore.

Players Like Saud, Abdullah, Tayyab, Salman Ali Agha are the ones who shpuld be short listed for the next odi cup.

It's better to bring falhar zaman back in red ball aka an actual established opener for pakistan and not Umar Amin who isn't lasting till 2027 due to not being main stream.
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I’m not following the comparison between the World Cup and the test team. To clarify, I’m talking about Umar Amin being in contention for the red ball team. I don’t see him having a role in white ball or the odi World Cup.

He is playing first class cricket and topping the charts. If I follow your post, isn’t that what you’re advocating for? It contradicts your next statement that you’d rather bring back Fakhar Zaman who doesn’t really play any FC or county cricket, and he’s the same age as Umar Amin which you also see as an issue.
 
Umar Amin has played a good inning but TBH, his Darwin tour was a disappointment. Maybe he can only score on Flat pitches as well.
 
Still don't understand the reason behind him being selected for the Shaheens. He was friends with Wahab so is that how he got selected?
 
This guy has no future in international cricket. We don't need to do another Sohaib Maqsood where we delude ourselves into thinking that he has radically changed as a player.
 
offstump said:
I’m not following the comparison between the World Cup and the test team. To clarify, I’m talking about Umar Amin being in contention for the red ball team. I don’t see him having a role in white ball or the odi World Cup.

He is playing first class cricket and topping the charts. If I follow your post, isn’t that what you’re advocating for? It contradicts your next statement that you’d rather bring back Fakhar Zaman who doesn’t really play any FC or county cricket, and he’s the same age as Umar Amin which you also see as an issue.
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He will fail miserably in red ball.

What people fail to understand is that topping charts and performing doesn't entail success.

Sohaib maqsood was performing in domestic but failed on his return comeback, Usman Khan is the 2nd coming of Bradman in psl but failed in international.

Technical prowess matters and this is something psl is clueless on.

A batsmen can improve on certain things, for example even though babar has regressed, He can improve against spin since he just needs to improve his range of backfoot strokes against it, otherwise their isn't anything wrong with his footwork.

People like rizwan or Usman Khan have no ceiling to improve and will always be medicore at best because their entire stance, Footwork and the cricket style they have spent decades building is now unchangeable. And unfortunately rizwan footwork, range of strokes and stance includes being a legside hack, while Usman Khan has possibly the ugliest footwork I've ever seen.

It's why I can tell saud shakeel will succeed and why someone like maqsood can't.

Umar Amin is no different, technique and shot selection wise he is extremely extremely poor when it comes to driving and just overall struggles with pacers who tend to bowl below waist height.

He's good against spinners, Can play bounce well but as soon as a bowler bowls below waist height, He'll likely play his usual lofted drive and get caught out.

International is a completly different ball game from domestic or league cricket where people like azam khan can function
 
mominsaigol said:
He will fail miserably in red ball.

What people fail to understand is that topping charts and performing doesn't entail success.

Sohaib maqsood was performing in domestic but failed on his return comeback, Usman Khan is the 2nd coming of Bradman in psl but failed in international.

Technical prowess matters and this is something psl is clueless on.

A batsmen can improve on certain things, for example even though babar has regressed, He can improve against spin since he just needs to improve his range of backfoot strokes against it, otherwise their isn't anything wrong with his footwork.

People like rizwan or Usman Khan have no ceiling to improve and will always be medicore at best because their entire stance, Footwork and the cricket style they have spent decades building is now unchangeable. And unfortunately rizwan footwork, range of strokes and stance includes being a legside hack, while Usman Khan has possibly the ugliest footwork I've ever seen.

It's why I can tell saud shakeel will succeed and why someone like maqsood can't.

Umar Amin is no different, technique and shot selection wise he is extremely extremely poor when it comes to driving and just overall struggles with pacers who tend to bowl below waist height.

He's good against spinners, Can play bounce well but as soon as a bowler bowls below waist height, He'll likely play his usual lofted drive and get caught out.

International is a completly different ball game from domestic or league cricket where people like azam khan can function
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The simple point is if you are prioritizing domestic first class cricket and putting up runs, you should be considered for the national team. This is basic criteria and Umar Amin has done that. Should he be selected? That’s another question.

Usman Khan is a tamasha cricket hack, he is nowhere near Amin’s level even though Amin is a borderline international player to begin with. Same with Azam Khan. It’s an insult to even compare Amin to these two guys.
 
FearlessRoar said:
Umar Amin has scored his 32nd first-class century against Bangladesh A in the 1st Four-Day match. It's good for him to consistently play first-class games, as he may be considered for a senior post in the PCB in the future.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1823688465399083324
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His one-man show earned him the Man of the Match award in the 1st Four-Day match between Pakistan Shaheens and Bangladesh A.

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shaz619 said:
Another talent destroyed by Misbah Ul Haq
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I think it was more than Misbah. The debuted him too early, he needed more time in domestics to hone his skill and develop. You can see the maturity in his batting now, but sadly it’s likely too late. He might get a call up but it’ll be another fawad Alam type situation.
 
offstump said:
I think it was more than Misbah. The debuted him too early, he needed more time in domestics to hone his skill and develop. You can see the maturity in his batting now, but sadly it’s likely too late. He might get a call up but it’ll be another fawad Alam type situation.
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Regardless like I don’t know what was the point in bringing him up early if they were going to just quit on him, you pick someone with a plan and give them every chance of success, and keep them around you to ensure their development. Him coming good now just shows they were correct in calling him up initially, just failed to accelerate his growth from within their system.
 
shaz619 said:
Regardless like I don’t know what was the point in bringing him up early if they were going to just quit on him, you pick someone with a plan and give them every chance of success, and keep them around you to ensure their development. Him coming good now just shows they were correct in calling him up initially, just failed to accelerate his growth from within their system.
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Lack of systems and process, ad hoc selection process, chopping and changing captains and selectors etc etc. the story is as old as Pakistan cricket. Hes a good bloke though, I hope he gets treated fairly even though he’s approach the twilight of his career.
 
Just an example of the error of the selection proccess. Was given chances when he was too young and not ready. When he actually started doing well in domestic consistently, and was actually ready than not even given proper chances again.

If you look at most of the guys who succeed in pak as batsmen, it tends to be batsmen who have debuted later in life. These 20 year olds who are picked earlier hardly ever become anything.

We made the exact same errors with Haris and Saim. Was done with Sami Aslam too. Which is why i hate debuting guys too young or not ready yet. The idea that it doesn’t hurt is wrong. A lot of the time, it makes it much harder to get any sort of proper recall later in life as you were written off when you were 20.

In fact the starts Haris and Saim have had, it becomes very unlikely they will have a good career for Pakistan now.
 
shaz619 said:
Another talent destroyed by Misbah Ul Haq
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He wasnt destroyed by Misbah, he's one of the few Misbah gave a chance too.

Misbah sidelined afridi and UA just to make this guy his vc and he bottled it.

Umar Amin was never a good player despite his marketing being that he's some sort of left handed Yuvi Singh
 
mominsaigol said:
He wasnt destroyed by Misbah, he's one of the few Misbah gave a chance too.

Misbah sidelined afridi and UA just to make this guy his vc and he bottled it.

Umar Amin was never a good player despite his marketing being that he's some sort of left handed Yuvi Singh
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3 or 4 Tests is not a lot of matches, plus why would they bring him in so early and then just discard him like that. It does help if you have a few big scores, and am not saying he should have remained in the first team. But there was no real plan behind his selection or mitigating actions in the event he didn't deliver. It's Pakistan though so can't expect them to be forward that way. Misbah doesn't know how to handle young players, on what basis did he make UA his VC, it just sounds like something he'd do to say hey guys look, am supporting young talent, it's ridiculous, as if Misbah would ever be challenged by what was basically a rookie when it came to his decision making.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
Forget about past now!

He still has a few more years left in his career so why not give him a chance now to make full use of his capabilities
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Am afraid that ship has sailed and even if he is worth his salt now, as per my good colleague @Junaids , we can't have too many 30+ players!
 
shaz619 said:
3 or 4 Tests is not a lot of matches, plus why would they bring him in so early and then just discard him like that. It does help if you have a few big scores, and am not saying he should have remained in the first team. But there was no real plan behind his selection or mitigating actions in the event he didn't deliver. It's Pakistan though so can't expect them to be forward that way. Misbah doesn't know how to handle young players, on what basis did he make UA his VC, it just sounds like something he'd do to say hey guys look, am supporting young talent, it's ridiculous, as if Misbah would ever be challenged by what was basically a rookie when it came to his decision making.
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Sorry if I wasn't clear earlier.

Yes Misbah did ruin him.

What I'm trying to say is that Umar Amin was brought into the ct 2013 team because Misbah had issues qith UA and Afridi and had a fight with em.

So he dropped them and brought this person on. Afterwards he was dropped once UA ans Afridi drama was settled.

Misbah is a clown tbh. Ricky Pointing and Steve Waugh had so many issues with their own team, but they still selected the players because it was what was best for their country.

I'm so tired of Misbah fans defending him and saying he was playing with a nothing team.

Don't people realise how much of a slap in the face it is that you dropped 2 players who after a few months would come back and dismantle West indies team that you got humilated by in 2013 ct? Esepiclaly afridi taking 7 for 12 just a few months later?

Or how much of a slap in the face it is, that sarfraz the guy you sideline for 6 games in a row is the man who saved your sorry bum and took you to the quarter finals.
 
Needs to be brought back.

Also in good form in the Shaheens matches
 
This guy has scored 281 runs in the recently concluded President one day cup and was named as the Best batter of the tournament.

Too late for him now to make a comeback??
 
Umar Amin scored 169 off 228 for Rawalpindi Region against Multan Region on Day 2 of Round 1 of the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy 2024/25. His century will be crucial in this match
 
Rawalpindi's Umar Amin scores a crucial 96 (157) against AJK on Day 2 of the second round of the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy 2024.
 
He could've gotten a chance in the recent Test against England had Kamran Ghulam not been in firey hot form. Too bad for Amin but given his age. It doesn't look bright
 
From a pair in the previous game, Umar Amin scored a century against PTV in the second round of the President's Trophy 2025. His century allowed SBP to score big after dismissing PTV for just 93.

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State Bank of Pakistan’s (SBP) skipper Umar Amin hit his 35th first-class century to help his team take a 54-run lead over Water and Power Development Authority (WAPDA) as they finished the day with 304-7 at close of play on Day 2 of the fourth round of President's Trophy Grade- l, 2025
 
I wonder why his career didn't take off.

I remember there was a thread about him in 2010. Something like "classy left-hander".

He simply faded away. He had good techniques.
 
sweep_shot said:
I wonder why his career didn't take off.

I remember there was a thread about him in 2010. Something like "classy left-hander".

He simply faded away. He had good techniques.
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I think he had his fair share of chances. But it is really easy to get into the current Pakistan XI if he is doing well in domestic. He can’t do worse then KG.
 
If Noman can be brought in at 38, why not Umar Amin was included in test team against WI, I'm sure would have done better than our legends.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
State Bank of Pakistan’s (SBP) skipper Umar Amin hit his 35th first-class century to help his team take a 54-run lead over Water and Power Development Authority (WAPDA) as they finished the day with 304-7 at close of play on Day 2 of the fourth round of President's Trophy Grade- l, 2025
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