[PICTURES/VIDEOS] To those who think the India-Pakistan rivalry is dead...

[MenInG]

Let's lay this argument to rest, once for all, shall we?

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Ahmedabad: Cricket fans who really wanted to get tickets for the ICC Cricket World Cup match of team India in Ahmedabad were disappointed once more. On Friday at 8 p.m., the BCCI announced the sale of 400,000 new tickets, especially for the big India-Pakistan game and other matches with India. But by 11 p.m., all those tickets were sold out, and some fans couldn’t get any.

Interestingly, tickets for other matches in Ahmedabad, such as England-Australia and England-New Zealand, remained unsold.

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Roger Binny, President of the BCCI

As your Excellency said that India-Pakistan is one of the biggest games that is played. I can tell you, sir. When India plays Pakistan, everything comes to a standstill"

"People don't work, the roads are empty. Everybody's in front of the television watching cricket. That's how big cricket is in India and Pakistan,"

 

[Cricket Warrior]

This rivalry has been shifted towards Afghanistan now.

We usually see better friendly environment while playing against India.

 

[hassan918]

Cricket is almost like a religion in India and Pakistan and what makes these games even more special that we only have the chance of witnessing these encounters in ICC or ACC tournaments so plenty is gonna be on the line for both teams. No wonder we experience empty malls and roads during India Pakistan cricket matches.

 

[Major]

Hey yhey have a reserve day for it asia cup.

But according to some indians it doesnt exist........

 

[kingusama92]

There is no bigger game in cricket.

Out of the top 5 most watched games in cricket history - four of them are India-Pakistan matches. It's a natural rivalry and will never die.

 

[Saj]

It's still huge, but probably lacks the quality that it used to.

I grew up watching Ganguly, Dravid, Tendulkar, Sehwag, Harbhajan, Yuvraj, Zaheer Khan, Kumble etc v Inzamam, Yousuf, Younis Khan, Wasim, Waqar, Mushy, Saqlain etc

It was different class.

 

[pakistani pride]

This rivalry has been shifted towards Afghanistan now.

We usually see better friendly environment while playing against India.

uhmmm no, there is no rivalry with Afghanistan. There is only one rival for Pak and that is India.

 

[Asad T]

It's still huge, but probably lacks the quality that it used to.

I grew up watching Ganguly, Dravid, Tendulkar, Sehwag, Harbhajan, Yuvraj, Zaheer Khan, Kumble etc v Inzamam, Yousuf, Younis Khan, Wasim, Waqar, Mushy, Saqlain etc

It was different class.

It is true that they were class players but I wonder if we over-romanticize them and overlook the beauty of our current team. I think our guys today are up there, and arguably better.

It's certainly still early days, but our pace trio have stats that are better than those of Wasim, Waqar, and Soaib (crazy to think). Our current pace trio also play in more batting friendly environments, are more fit, and can actually field.

	Matches Played	Average	Strike Rate
Wasim Akram	356​	23.52​	36.2​
Waqar Younis	262​	23.84​	30.5​
Shoaib Akhtar	163​	24.97​	31.4​
Shaheen Shah Afridi	42​	22.62​	25.2​
Naseem Shah	13​	15.31​	19.9​
Haris Rauf	27​	23.81​	25.1​

As for our batting, it looks like our current top order trumps our legends of yesteryear as well.

	Matches Played	Average	Strike Rate
Inzamam Ul Haq	378​	39.52​	74.24​
Mohamad Yusuf	288​	41.71​	75.1​
Younis Khan	265​	31.24​	75.29​
Imam ul Haq	65​	51.15​	82.34​
Fakar Zaman	76​	46.3​	92.67​
Babar Azam	106​	59.01​	89.35​

It is still early days. Some of the above legends played well and consistently for 300+ games. And Naseem for instance, has only played 13. But let's not take anything away from our current batch of boys. They really have the potential to go down as GOATS and will hopefully continue to make things spicy vs India.

But i wholeheartedly agree with you on the current Indian team vs the Indian team of that era. Dravid, Sachin and Laxman were especially another level of classy.

 

[Saj]

It is true that they were class players but I wonder if we over-romanticize them and overlook the beauty of our current team. I think our guys today are up there, and arguably better.

It's certainly still early days, but our pace trio have stats that are better than those of Wasim, Waqar, and Soaib (crazy to think). Our current pace trio also play in more batting friendly environments, are more fit, and can actually field.

	Matches Played	Average	Strike Rate
Wasim Akram	356​	23.52​	36.2​
Waqar Younis	262​	23.84​	30.5​
Shoaib Akhtar	163​	24.97​	31.4​
Shaheen Shah Afridi	42​	22.62​	25.2​
Naseem Shah	13​	15.31​	19.9​
Haris Rauf	27​	23.81​	25.1​

As for our batting, it looks like our current top order trumps our legends of yesteryear as well.

	Matches Played	Average	Strike Rate
Inzamam Ul Haq	378​	39.52​	74.24​
Mohamad Yusuf	288​	41.71​	75.1​
Younis Khan	265​	31.24​	75.29​
Imam ul Haq	65​	51.15​	82.34​
Fakar Zaman	76​	46.3​	92.67​
Babar Azam	106​	59.01​	89.35​

It is still early days. Some of the above legends played well and consistently for 300+ games. And Naseem for instance, has only played 13. But let's not take anything away from our current batch of boys. They really have the potential to go down as GOATS and will hopefully continue to make things spicy vs India.

But i wholeheartedly agree with you on the current Indian team vs the Indian team of that era. Dravid, Sachin and Laxman were especially another level of classy.

When comparing stats - I think first and foremost look at the quality of the opposition of today and compare that of the likes of Wasim and Waqar played against.

Let's start with West Indies first......

 

[WicketLord]

Caretaker Prime Minister Anwaar-ul-Haq Kakar said this week he would not “specially” invite the Indian cricket team or any other international team to tour Pakistan if they did not want to come to the country in the first place, amid tensions between the cricket boards of the two countries over the ongoing Asia Cup 2023 tournament.

Political tensions between India and Pakistan mean the two neighbors only play cricket against each other at international venues and global competitions. Pakistan, who were originally confirmed as the sole host of the Asia Cup 2023 tournament, were forced to agree to a “hybrid model” which saw a majority of the matches being hosted in Sri Lanka after India refused to tour the country.

According to media reports, the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) last week suggested moving the Asia Cup matches back to Pakistan when heavy rain was forecast for the remainder of the tournament in Colombo. The Asian Cricket Council (ACC), headed by the secretary of the Indian cricket board Jay Shah, rejected the PCB’s demand and ruled that the tournament would take place in Colombo as per the original schedule. In a statement, Shah said several stakeholders expressed reservations about hosting the entire Asia Cup in Pakistan due to the country’s security and economic conditions.

During an interview with a private news channel on Monday, Kakar said Pakistan would take up the issue of India mixing politics with sports at various multilateral forums.

“Why would I specially invite a particular team or a country [to visit Pakistan],” Kakar said when asked whether he would invite the Indian cricket team to tour Pakistan. He added that a lot of international teams were at first hesitant to visit Pakistan but later arrived to play cricket in the country.

“We want to keep the environment in Pakistan congenial and secure, and [if any team] from within the region or outside it wishes to visit Pakistan, we would warmly welcome them,” Kakar said. “But if they don’t want to come here, then you don’t invite anyone forcibly to your home.”

Pakistan are scheduled to host the Champions Trophy cricket tournament in 2025. International cricket has slowly returned to the country’s shores ever since an attack on a Sri Lankan cricket team in 2009 scared teams away from touring Pakistan.

In April 2022, Australia arrived in Pakistan to play a three-match Test series and a three-match ODI series, followed by England who arrived in Pakistan in September 2022 for a seven-match T20I series. In April 2023, New Zealand arrived in Pakistan to play a five-match ODI series, which the hosts won 4-1.

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[hassan918]

Whoever thinks that India Pakistan rivalry is dead is know nothing about this rivalry. After yesterday's defeat this rivalry has gone up a notch and Pakistan team and its fans are now really want to play India in the Final of the Asia Cup.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Disney+ Hotstar hits new milestone as India vs Pakistan Asia Cup match draws 28 million viewers

Disney+ Hotstar has surpassed its previous record of 25.3 million concurrent viewers, which was set during the 2019 ICC Cricket World Cup

Disney's video streaming service Disney+ Hotstar hit a new milestone on September 11 as the service drew a peak concurrency of around 28 million viewers during the India vs Pakistan cricket match in the ongoing Asia Cup tournament, powered by free cricket streaming for mobile users.

With this, the streaming platform has surpassed its previous record of 25.3 million concurrent viewers, which was set during the ICC Cricket World Cup semi-final match between India and New Zealand in 2019.

This is the highest digital viewership for any cricket match involving India, BCCI secretary Jay Shah said on X, the platform previously known as Twitter.

 

[MenInG]

This is the highest digital viewership for any cricket match involving India, BCCI secretary Jay Shah said on X, the platform previously known as Twitter.

This should be an eye opener for many.

 

[Civil]

The match in the world cup in a month will blow the viewership numbers out the window.

 

[cricketjoshila]

IPL finals this year had 32mn viewers.

Its free streaming now. So expect these kind of numbers.

 

[kron]

It's still huge, but probably lacks the quality that it used to.

I grew up watching Ganguly, Dravid, Tendulkar, Sehwag, Harbhajan, Yuvraj, Zaheer Khan, Kumble etc v Inzamam, Yousuf, Younis Khan, Wasim, Waqar, Mushy, Saqlain etc

It was different class.

So shaheen naseem bumrah kohli rohit babar pandya rauf isn't quality?

If anything pace bowling of Pakistan is high quality. It's our batting that let's us down

India too have a quality pace attack.

When we dominated India, they had a much weaker pace attack. Talking about 80s and 90s.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Let's lay this argument to rest, once for all, shall we?

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Ahmedabad: Cricket fans who really wanted to get tickets for the ICC Cricket World Cup match of team India in Ahmedabad were disappointed once more. On Friday at 8 p.m., the BCCI announced the sale of 400,000 new tickets, especially for the big India-Pakistan game and other matches with India. But by 11 p.m., all those tickets were sold out, and some fans couldn’t get any.

Interestingly, tickets for other matches in Ahmedabad, such as England-Australia and England-New Zealand, remained unsold.

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Roger Binny, President of the BCCI

As your Excellency said that India-Pakistan is one of the biggest games that is played. I can tell you, sir. When India plays Pakistan, everything comes to a standstill"

"People don't work, the roads are empty. Everybody's in front of the television watching cricket. That's how big cricket is in India and Pakistan,"

I mean does it matter to Pakistan whether rivalry is there or not. There are 10 teams and Pakistan gets to play with 9 of the them regularly. So why bother ?

 

[boomboomcheema]

For this rivalry to be alive , Pakistan will have to keep defeating India at regular intervals. A win against India at the World Cup next Month could do wonders for the rivalry.

 

[WengerOut]

Cricket in general is losing interest in India, atleast in my part of India. Not specifically Ind v Pak. Some of us were not even aware of Asia cup matches until scores are being posted in twitter.

 

[BouncerGuy]

No Bilateral Cricket Relations With Pakistan Unless Cross Border Terrorism Ends: Sports Minister Anurag Thakur.

Sports Minister Anurag Thakur has said the BCCI long ago decided that there won’t be any bilateral cricket with Pakistan till they stop cross-border terrorism and infiltration in India.

The bilateral cricket ties between India and Pakistan have been suspended for years due to the heightened diplomatic tensions between the two neighbours with the two teams only playing matches at the ICC and continental events.

“As far as sports is concerned, BCCI had long before decided that bilateral matches with Pakistan won’t be held till they stop infiltration and cross-border terrorism. I think this is the sentiment of every common citizen of this country," Anurag Thakur, a former BCCI president, said on Friday.

The cricket ties between India and Pakistan are in focus again after an Army Colonel, a Major and a Deputy Superintendent of Police of the Jammu and Kashmir (J&K) Police were killed during a gunfight with militants recently.

The Indian men’s cricket team is currently in Sri Lanka where they are taking part in the Asia Cup 2023. They have faced Pakistan twice in the ongoing tournament.

The Asia Cup 2023 was originally slated to be held entirely in Pakistan but BCCI said it cannot send its team citing denial of permission from the Indian government.

In response, the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) threatened to boycott the 2023 ODI World Cup which is scheduled to be held in India.

However, the Asian Cricket Council (ACC) eventually arrived at a hybrid model according to which few matches were to be played in Pakistan while the remaining will take place in Sri Lanka.

India played all their matches in Sri Lanka.

Meanwhile, Pakistan have been eliminated from the Asia Cup final race after losing a last-ball thriller to Sri Lanka who will now meet India in the title clash this Sunday.​

NEWS 18​

 

[MenInG]

“As far as sports is concerned, BCCI had long before decided that bilateral matches with Pakistan won’t be held till they stop infiltration and cross-border terrorism. I think this is the sentiment of every common citizen of this country," Anurag Thakur, a former BCCI president, said on Friday.

Challo jee:

Ahmedabad: Cricket fans who really wanted to get tickets for the ICC Cricket World Cup match of team India in Ahmedabad were disappointed once more. On Friday at 8 p.m., the BCCI announced the sale of 400,000 new tickets, especially for the big India-Pakistan game and other matches with India. But by 11 p.m., all those tickets were sold out, and some fans couldn’t get any.

Interestingly, tickets for other matches in Ahmedabad, such as England-Australia and England-New Zealand, remained unsold.

Disney's video streaming service Disney+ Hotstar hit a new milestone on September 11 as the service drew a peak concurrency of around 28 million viewers during the India vs Pakistan cricket match in the ongoing Asia Cup tournament, powered by free cricket streaming for mobile users.

With this, the streaming platform has surpassed its previous record of 25.3 million concurrent viewers, which was set during the ICC Cricket World Cup semi-final match between India and New Zealand in 2019.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Not in favour of India playing Pakistan in tournaments either until the political masters are resolved.

 

[Civil]

Not in favour of India playing Pakistan in tournaments either until the political masters are resolved.

This is a consistent position thank you.

I wish they would resume everything, but play or not the position should be consistent.

 

[MenInG]

Not in favour of India playing Pakistan in tournaments either until the political masters are resolved.

Then vote with your $$$s bro

Stop making money from the very people who are hurting you

 

[AAli98]

If Pak have any self respect they shouldn’t go to the World Cup these guys are out to destroy you they only did the Asia cup to humiliate Pak.

 

[Mamoon]

Last 7 ODIs:

India 6, Pakistan 1

If it is a rivalry it is a completely one-sided one.

 

[MenInG]

Last 7 ODIs:

India 6, Pakistan 1

If it is a rivalry it is a completely one-sided one.

Yet whole of India goes ga ga over these games.

 

[Mamoon]

Yet whole of India goes ga ga over these games.

Well they should. The hate for Pakistan will always be there and they know their team is way superior, so they have every right to hype these fixtures knowing that the chances of them winning and claiming bragging rights are very high.

On the contrary, Pakistan should keep a low profile and try to treat this match as any other game. No point in trash talking when there is a 90% chance you’ll lose.

It is good to be bullish and have a big mouth as long as you back it on the pitch more often than not. We can’t do that.

 

[Major]

Last 7 ODIs:

India 6, Pakistan 1

If it is a rivalry it is a completely one-sided one.

umm, what are you trying to imply?

The thread title is basically for those that say Pakistan vs India rivalry doesnt exist anymore. Offcourse sometimes in the rivalry some teams will take the lead, so what do you mean by IF???

As for 6-1, thats just selective stats. You decided to choose a cut off point where India would look better. Point is, India hasn't taken over us on the overall figure of wins.

Rivalry ko if bhi kehna, phir 6-1 per uchalna bhi hai.. Pick an argument, whether you believe its a rivalry or not

 

[Major]

Well they should. The hate for Pakistan will always be there and they know their team is way superior, so they have every right to hype these fixtures knowing that the chances of them winning and claiming bragging rights are very high.

On the contrary, Pakistan should keep a low profile and try to treat this match as any other game. No point in trash talking when there is a 90% chance you’ll lose.

It is good to be bullish and have a big mouth as long as you back it on the pitch more often than not. We can’t do that.

Arsenal never won anything for the last few years, still do there fans keep quite or follow what you are preaching Pakistani fans?

You are no one to be preaching to Pakistani fans how they should hype up a game.

Hate or whatever, thing is, its a rivalry. That hate makes it a rivalry. And everyone is well within there right to do trash talking.
If the odds are 90% against us (ur odds not ours), than shouldn't the other side shut up and be confident of there win? Shouldn't they win and the fans just quietly not celebrate?

When Pakistan beats a minnow (where the odds are 90% of us winning before the game), fans dont go gaga and celebrate it.

 

[Mas-LFC]

Will always be biggest rivalry in cricket. England vs Australia 2nd and now I’d say BD vs SL is an interesting rivalry too!

 

[Mamoon]

umm, what are you trying to imply?

The thread title is basically for those that say Pakistan vs India rivalry doesnt exist anymore. Offcourse sometimes in the rivalry some teams will take the lead, so what do you mean by IF???

As for 6-1, thats just selective stats. You decided to choose a cut off point where India would look better. Point is, India hasn't taken over us on the overall figure of wins.

Rivalry ko if bhi kehna, phir 6-1 per uchalna bhi hai.. Pick an argument, whether you believe its a rivalry or not

What happened 20-30-40 years ago means nothing because those players are long gone.

People put too much stock in history even though it means nothing at all and has no relevance and influence on the current performances.

Pakistan were better than India for very long although Indian players always handled pressure of World Cups better. However, overall, Pakistan did better than them in head to head games.

However, if we look at the last 4-5 years, which means pretty much the same generation of players, the record is heavily favored towards India which simply shows that they are the better side.

Pakistani players, media and fans can run their mouths but it doesn’t change the reality. When you know your are second best, it is better to talk less.

Pakistan is lucky they don’t play Tests with India otherwise it would be a total mauling. They are also lucky not to play more ODI cricket.

India would keep beating Pakistan 4-1 or 5-0 if there is regular cricket between the two sides in this era.

T20I is the only format where the gap between the two sides is less significant, but that applies to pretty much all teams because of the nature of the format.

The longer the format, the more probability of the weaker team getting exposed and the stronger team showing its prowess.

Just like it is easier to do an upset in a one-off game but if it’s a long series, the better team usually prevails.

Pakistani fans can talk about history all they want, but the record against India in World Cups is very embarrassing and you don’t win matches in the present by looking at history.

It is also funny how you keep talking about how only World Cups matter but when it comes to Pakistan vs India, you want to focus on bilateral head to head not World Cup head to head.

 

[Mamoon]

Arsenal never won anything for the last few years, still do there fans keep quite or follow what you are preaching Pakistani fans?

You are no one to be preaching to Pakistani fans how they should hype up a game.

Hate or whatever, thing is, its a rivalry. That hate makes it a rivalry. And everyone is well within there right to do trash talking.
If the odds are 90% against us (ur odds not ours), than shouldn't the other side shut up and be confident of there win? Shouldn't they win and the fans just quietly not celebrate?

When Pakistan beats a minnow (where the odds are 90% of us winning before the game), fans dont go gaga and celebrate it.

Wrong example.

Arsenal fans were vocal against their own players and club because they wanted to make things better.

No sports team fans have been as critical of their own team as Arsenal fans have been.

on the other hand, Pakistani cricket fans are always in denial and in delusion and pretend that their team is great when it clearly isn’t.

The first step to rectifying a problem is to identify and accept it. That rarely happens in Pakistan cricket.

 

[RexRex]

The Pakistani players smiling and going gaga over Kohli pre-game takes a lot of sheen off this rivalry. Then there was the PCB putting up a twitter clip of Afridi gifting Bumrah some pampers for his new baby lol. I just can't take them as proud rivals when I see that kind of behaviour.

 

[Savak]

The Pakistani players smiling and going gaga over Kohli pre-game takes a lot of sheen off this rivalry. Then there was the PCB putting up a twitter clip of Afridi gifting Bumrah some pampers for his new baby lol. I just can't take them as proud rivals when I see that kind of behaviour.

Its simple fan boy culture and a sense of inferiority complex given the world class stature, fame, money their Indian counterparts enjoy versus them.

 

[owenhcricket]

Wrong example.

Arsenal fans were vocal against their own players and club because they wanted to make things better.

No sports team fans have been as critical of their own team as Arsenal fans have been.

on the other hand, Pakistani cricket fans are always in denial and in delusion and pretend that their team is great when it clearly isn’t.

The first step to rectifying a problem is to identify and accept it. That rarely happens in Pakistan cricket.

You must be new to supporting Pakistan if you actually believe what you just typed

Back on topic, the fact that the Indians would agree to a reserve day, meaning they would theoretically play cricket across 3 days just goes to show how big Pak v India is, even in the current environs of a shoddy Asia Cup.

 

[shariqnoor]

You must be new to supporting Pakistan if you actually believe what you just typed

Back on topic, the fact that the Indians would agree to a reserve day, meaning they would theoretically play cricket across 3 days just goes to show how big Pak v India is, even in the current environs of a shoddy Asia Cup.

Pakistan vs India is big only in terms of eyeballs which garner money in the pockets of the administrators. Cricketing wise, Pakistan vs India has been a no-contest for the past decade.

 

[Mas-LFC]

Lately I’m seeing too much friendly smiley stuffs in this rivalry no such heat like before! Remember Afridi v Gambir, Akhtar v Harbajan etc.

 

[Technics 1210]

You know the Pakistan vs India rivalry is alive and well when Mamoon first appears on the new PP forum on the day of the Pak vs India match.

The reality is most Indians can claim India has the upper hand in ICC tournaments and they do not care, but reality is Pakistan has beaten Indian blue when Indians least expected it (CT17 . WCT20 2021), and then there was the Anne Do series - as examples.

Lets also not forget the amount of betting that goes on in a Pakistan vs India match.

India could beat Pakistan 100 - 0 in ICC tournament matches, but the rivalry and viewership will never die, especially when India's government promotes hate towards Pakistan! Every match between Pakistan and India is simply an opportunity for Indian fans to say we beat you, we are better than you, for bragging rights, so they can feel better and sleep easier at night - cos Indian fans never miss an opportunity to brag.

 

[owenhcricket]

Pakistan vs India is big only in terms of eyeballs which garner money in the pockets of the administrators. Cricketing wise, Pakistan vs India has been a no-contest for the past decade.

Past decade roughly includes Pakistan winning the last ever bilateral series between the two, a romping in the only ODI final they have played and an absolute ten wicket hammering in the T20 world cup. India have their wins also but it's hardly just one sided and one could argue, the nature of Pakistan's wins are superior and the context of that CT final cant be beaten unless it was a world cup final.

 

[owenhcricket]

You know the Pakistan vs India rivalry is alive and well when Mamoon first appears on the new PP forum on the day of the Pak vs India match.

The reality is most Indians can claim India has the upper hand in ICC tournaments and they do not care, but reality is Pakistan has beaten Indian blue when Indians least expected it (CT17 . WCT20 2021), and then there was the Anne Do series - as examples.

Lets also not forget the amount of betting that goes on in a Pakistan vs India match.

India could beat Pakistan 100 - 0 in ICC tournament matches, but the rivalry and viewership will never die, especially when India's government promotes hate towards Pakistan! Every match between Pakistan and India is simply an opportunity for Indian fans to say we beat you, we are better than you, for bragging rights, so they can feel better and sleep easier at night - cos Indian fans never miss an opportunity to brag.

hahaha I was thinking I'd seen him previously...so he isn't new. just decided to lay low till India won a game?

 

[Rajdeep]

No Bilateral Cricket Relations With Pakistan Unless Cross Border Terrorism Ends: Sports Minister Anurag Thakur.

Sports Minister Anurag Thakur has said the BCCI long ago decided that there won’t be any bilateral cricket with Pakistan till they stop cross-border terrorism and infiltration in India.

The bilateral cricket ties between India and Pakistan have been suspended for years due to the heightened diplomatic tensions between the two neighbours with the two teams only playing matches at the ICC and continental events.

“As far as sports is concerned, BCCI had long before decided that bilateral matches with Pakistan won’t be held till they stop infiltration and cross-border terrorism. I think this is the sentiment of every common citizen of this country," Anurag Thakur, a former BCCI president, said on Friday.

The cricket ties between India and Pakistan are in focus again after an Army Colonel, a Major and a Deputy Superintendent of Police of the Jammu and Kashmir (J&K) Police were killed during a gunfight with militants recently.

The Indian men’s cricket team is currently in Sri Lanka where they are taking part in the Asia Cup 2023. They have faced Pakistan twice in the ongoing tournament.

The Asia Cup 2023 was originally slated to be held entirely in Pakistan but BCCI said it cannot send its team citing denial of permission from the Indian government.

In response, the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) threatened to boycott the 2023 ODI World Cup which is scheduled to be held in India.

However, the Asian Cricket Council (ACC) eventually arrived at a hybrid model according to which few matches were to be played in Pakistan while the remaining will take place in Sri Lanka.

India played all their matches in Sri Lanka.

Meanwhile, Pakistan have been eliminated from the Asia Cup final race after losing a last-ball thriller to Sri Lanka who will now meet India in the title clash this Sunday.

NEWS 18​

Rajdeep Sardesai, my favourite journalist, asking tough question

https://x.com/i/web/status/1701094919241392469

 

[Mamoon]

You must be new to supporting Pakistan if you actually believe what you just typed

Back on topic, the fact that the Indians would agree to a reserve day, meaning they would theoretically play cricket across 3 days just goes to show how big Pak v India is, even in the current environs of a shoddy Asia Cup.

Most Pakistani fans including the media and sports journalists are in denial. They always have been and overestimate the capabilities of Pakistan.

There is only a small section of folks including on this forum who are fully aware of the true standing of Pakistan and its players.

 

[mominsaigol]

It ain't dead, India is looking forward to creamating us again. If anything we have generated more interest and revenue for a pakistan vs india game this world cup. I'm sure millions of Indians can't wait to watch the massacre that's about to unfold especially now that they don't have to worry about our injured trio anymore, since I doubt Rauf, naseem or shaheen will fully recover by that point.

 

[MenInG]

Most Pakistani fans including the media and sports journalists are in denial. They always have been and overestimate the capabilities of Pakistan.

There is only a small section of folks including on this forum who are fully aware of the true standing of Pakistan and its players.

There is denial alright but by those who think this rivalry is not there when it comes to eyes watching and money to be made.

 

[owenhcricket]

Most Pakistani fans including the media and sports journalists are in denial. They always have been and overestimate the capabilities of Pakistan.

There is only a small section of folks including on this forum who are fully aware of the true standing of Pakistan and its players.

I read that post and was reminded of those voodoo guys, ghost hunters, conspiracy theorists lol "only I can see things you can't"...because a team with 3 fast bowlers averaging and striking at what they do and a near great ODI batsman with 3 other pretty good batsmen would be considered very good on any other platform.

But I guess all those numbers are fake and you have some knowledge we don't

 

[Technics 1210]

Pakistan media : Babar is #1, Bowling attack #1 - Conclusion - Pakistan fans are in denial.

Foreign media : Babar is #1, Bowling attack #1 - Conclusion - silence cos its fair and lovely.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Then vote with your $$$s bro

Stop making money from the very people who are hurting you

Unfortunately people have been corrupted by greed. I see no logic in playing Pakistan in tournaments when we cannot play them bilaterally. Is a World Cup bigger than national pride and sentiments.

If things get better politically between Bharat and Pakistan, and I will always wish for that, I will totally welcome full fledged cricketing relations.

However until the above lost faith is not restored, I will always put my nationalist pride above World Cup glory and call for a boycott.

 

[mominsaigol]

Unfortunately people have been corrupted by greed. I see no logic in playing Pakistan in tournaments when we cannot play them bilaterally. Is a World Cup bigger than national pride and sentiments.

If things get better politically between Bharat and Pakistan, and I will always wish for that, I will totally welcome full fledged cricketing relations.

However until the above lost faith is not restored, I will always put my nationalist pride above World Cup glory and call for a boycott.

No offence but winning a world cup in India is the biggest slap to bharat's face then our non existent national pride.

The issue isn't playing in India, the issue is the players we are taking to India who will get humiliated by India and Sena unless one of these 5 chockes.

 

[Bhaijaan]

No offence but winning a world cup in India is the biggest slap to bharat's face then our non existent national pride.

You can slap your own face or Pakistan’s. Do not talk of our country in such disgusting disrespectful manner.

No wonder you have no national pride because you know nothing of what nation means to a person at an emotional level.

 

[mominsaigol]

You can slap your own face or Pakistan’s. Do not talk of our country in such disgusting disrespectful manner.

No wonder you have no national pride because you know nothing of what nation means to a person at an emotional level.

"You know nothing of what nation means to a person at an emotional level"

Thanks for admitting you're emotional .

Brother I don't see why you're getting angry at me for saying we should humiliate India but establishing dominance in their very own country rather then chickening out and boycotting the world cup.

You honestly think BCCI or any team really cares if pakistan is playing or not? They literally won't because we are a 3rd world country with no power.

But they will get humiliated if we end up beating them at their own backyard. If anything it's more patriotic to spit on the faces of India in their own backyard then to cry at home and be a forgotten footnote.

You have no idea what you're talking about mate. But keep getting angry , the immaturity is showing from your end, not mine.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Bro this rivalry is never gonna die. This rivalry is even bigger for me then Ashes. Batlle for the ages and it will pass on from generation to generation. Those who think that this rivalry is dead are not thinking straight I guess.

 

[AAli98]

The last test between the nations was in 2007 the next odi will be in 2025 what rivalry? Anyone can win a one off game unless there’s no bilaterals there is no rivalry !

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The Indian govt should have boycotted ICC events involving Pakistan. By hosting the World Cup they have been embarrassed by the clamour of their own people to buy tickets to see a game they have tried to shut down in many spheres in their attempt to weaken Pakistan cricket.

 

[Technics 1210]

If you believe Indian fans they will tell you India vs Australia is the biggest rivalry in Cricket despite the WC match being played in front of a depleted and empty stadium, and this is not including the pre WC India vs Australia ODI series which was played in near Covid conditions.

The Pakistan vs India rivalry is not dead, it will never die. It is the greatest.

Most of the users saying Pakistan vs India rivalry is dead will either be watching or commentating on PP - FACT. So stop fibbing, and stop pretending Indians to not care about the match.

Pakistan is so important to Indian Cricket it is beyond doubt.

1. WC Opening ceremony to be held before the Pakistan vs India match tomorrow.
2. Crowd sellout for Pakistan vs India match tomorrow. (First time in this WC)
3. Biggest revenue generator for BCCI for a mere qualification match, tomorrow.
4. SC Media channels have blocked 12 hours for the match, and 6 hours for post match analysis, tomorrow.
5. Highest advertising slots on TV, tomorrow.
6. Global Media channels have reserved more bandwidth for streaming, tomorrow.
7. Largest security in the history of the game enforced tomorrow, Indian army involved.
8. Peak PP users & traffic predicted for, tomorrow.
9. Lowest carbon footprint in the past 4 years in India tomorrow, as the entire nation of India will be watching rather than working etc.
10. Pre match thread is longer than most commentary threads on PP.
11. 1.3 BILLION Indians will hear the Pakistan anthem being played on Indian soil.

Without Pakistan, there is no WC for Indians, India, and the BCCI.

 

[Ml12345]

The Indian govt should have boycotted ICC events involving Pakistan. By hosting the World Cup they have been embarrassed by the clamour of their own people to buy tickets to see a game they have tried to shut down in many spheres in their attempt to weaken Pakistan cricket.

Kabhi kuchh acchha bhi likh diya karo. India has given you lot of heart ache.

 

[Major]

they decided to host this game at the biggest stadium. They also decided to shift the opening ceremony before this game.

Any indian that tries to say the rivalry does not exist, that person is just trying to hard to convince himself.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Anything other than a resounding India win will be embarrassing for them

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Kabhi kuchh acchha bhi likh diya karo. India has given you lot of heart ache.

koi mauka bi dijay naa?

The shutdown efforts to prevent Pakistan/Bharat tussle has come govt endorsed from your end. You can't even deny it, even though your people yearn to see it.

 

[emranabbas]

If you believe Indian fans they will tell you India vs Australia is the biggest rivalry in Cricket despite the WC match being played in front of a depleted and empty stadium, and this is not including the pre WC India vs Australia ODI series which was played in near Covid conditions.

The Pakistan vs India rivalry is not dead, it will never die. It is the greatest.

Most of the users saying Pakistan vs India rivalry is dead will either be watching or commentating on PP - FACT. So stop fibbing, and stop pretending Indians to not care about the match.

Pakistan is so important to Indian Cricket it is beyond doubt.

1. WC Opening ceremony to be held before the Pakistan vs India match tomorrow.
2. Crowd sellout for Pakistan vs India match tomorrow. (First time in this WC)
3. Biggest revenue generator for BCCI for a mere qualification match, tomorrow.
4. SC Media channels have blocked 12 hours for the match, and 6 hours for post match analysis, tomorrow.
5. Highest advertising slots on TV, tomorrow.
6. Global Media channels have reserved more bandwidth for streaming, tomorrow.
7. Largest security in the history of the game enforced tomorrow, Indian army involved.
8. Peak PP users & traffic predicted for, tomorrow.
9. Lowest carbon footprint in the past 4 years in India tomorrow, as the entire nation of India will be watching rather than working etc.
10. Pre match thread is longer than most commentary threads on PP.
11. 1.3 BILLION Indians will hear the Pakistan anthem being played on Indian soil.

Without Pakistan, there is no WC for Indians, India, and the BCCI.

Potw for me

Where are those people who were saying if pakistan boycott the world cup it won't make a diffrence and those people who saying india don't care about playing with pakistan

 

[Major]

menawhile a Rs. 4000 ticket is going up 28k in black..

but nahi nahi, rivalry nahi hai yaye tou.

 

[emranabbas]

#shameonbbci is trending in India on no.1

 

[deltexas]

If you believe Indian fans they will tell you India vs Australia is the biggest rivalry in Cricket despite the WC match being played in front of a depleted and empty stadium, and this is not including the pre WC India vs Australia ODI series which was played in near Covid conditions.

The Pakistan vs India rivalry is not dead, it will never die. It is the greatest.

Most of the users saying Pakistan vs India rivalry is dead will either be watching or commentating on PP - FACT. So stop fibbing, and stop pretending Indians to not care about the match.

Pakistan is so important to Indian Cricket it is beyond doubt.

1. WC Opening ceremony to be held before the Pakistan vs India match tomorrow.
2. Crowd sellout for Pakistan vs India match tomorrow. (First time in this WC)
3. Biggest revenue generator for BCCI for a mere qualification match, tomorrow.
4. SC Media channels have blocked 12 hours for the match, and 6 hours for post match analysis, tomorrow.
5. Highest advertising slots on TV, tomorrow.
6. Global Media channels have reserved more bandwidth for streaming, tomorrow.
7. Largest security in the history of the game enforced tomorrow, Indian army involved.
8. Peak PP users & traffic predicted for, tomorrow.
9. Lowest carbon footprint in the past 4 years in India tomorrow, as the entire nation of India will be watching rather than working etc.
10. Pre match thread is longer than most commentary threads on PP.
11. 1.3 BILLION Indians will hear the Pakistan anthem being played on Indian soil.

Without Pakistan, there is no WC for Indians, India, and the BCCI.

And I think BCCI has figured out this is the best way. Too many bilaterals and it numbs down the rivalry. just like Ind Aus games. Ind Aus games were very exciting but now they play so frequently that the edge is not there. Same with Pak. No bilaterals and the edge increases for a game. And you have to play Pak in WCs or multiteam events . And now there is an ICC event every year - so BCCI gets 1 game with Pay every year minimum as gov cant deny India playing WC's. They will make sure to pool Ind & Pak in the same group for this game. And if they reach sf and finals - it's a jackpot ! Plus now they have the Asia cup as well every 2 years where they can play Pak in a minimum of 2 games. This way there is no overexposure and the hype is kept high and BCCI can then milk it for the maximum moolah !!

 

[Major]

#shameonbbci is trending in India on no.1

why

 

[emranabbas]

why

lot of bhartis don't want to play the terrorist nation tomorrow at ahmadabad

 

[Major]

lot of bhartis don't want to play the terrorist nation tomorrow at ahmadabad

all they can do is just talk....

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Just imagine in this scenario if Pakistan wins the game so what will happen.

I think they are trying to create some extra pressure on Pakistan.

 

[deltexas]

Just imagine in this scenario if Pakistan wins the game so what will happen.

I think they are trying to create some extra pressure on Pakistan.

As it's a league game and Ind can still qualify pretty easily even if they lose this - the fallout should be OK. A day or two or complaining and onto the next Ind league game. But if its an Ind Pak final at this stadium and Ind loses that - boy that will be seismic... For sure Rohit Kohli Jadeja Ashwin Klrahul and coach Dravid will be the fallguys with their Ind white ball careers over... Still I believe the chances of an Ind Pak final is pretty remote. I think for us Ind the sf is a bigger hurdle than the final lol ! . And if it's NZ in the sf then shivers down the spine !

 

[Savak]

Centurian game in 2003, Pakistan has beaten India in only 18 ODI's, 3 T20's and 3 Test matches. In contrast India has beaten Pakistan in 26 ODI's, 9 T20's and 3 Test matches

India has been the better team in all formats in the last 2 decades.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

lot of bhartis don't want to play the terrorist nation tomorrow at ahmadabad

Thats fine...give us the points then and we can all go home happy.

 

[Syed1]

If you believe Indian fans they will tell you India vs Australia is the biggest rivalry in Cricket despite the WC match being played in front of a depleted and empty stadium, and this is not including the pre WC India vs Australia ODI series which was played in near Covid conditions.

The Pakistan vs India rivalry is not dead, it will never die. It is the greatest.

Most of the users saying Pakistan vs India rivalry is dead will either be watching or commentating on PP - FACT. So stop fibbing, and stop pretending Indians to not care about the match.

Pakistan is so important to Indian Cricket it is beyond doubt.

1. WC Opening ceremony to be held before the Pakistan vs India match tomorrow.
2. Crowd sellout for Pakistan vs India match tomorrow. (First time in this WC)
3. Biggest revenue generator for BCCI for a mere qualification match, tomorrow.
4. SC Media channels have blocked 12 hours for the match, and 6 hours for post match analysis, tomorrow.
5. Highest advertising slots on TV, tomorrow.
6. Global Media channels have reserved more bandwidth for streaming, tomorrow.
7. Largest security in the history of the game enforced tomorrow, Indian army involved.
8. Peak PP users & traffic predicted for, tomorrow.
9. Lowest carbon footprint in the past 4 years in India tomorrow, as the entire nation of India will be watching rather than working etc.
10. Pre match thread is longer than most commentary threads on PP.
11. 1.3 BILLION Indians will hear the Pakistan anthem being played on Indian soil.

Without Pakistan, there is no WC for Indians, India, and the BCCI.

Oof the last point sent shivers down my back. I hadn't even thought of that. Imagine 1.5 lakh in the stadium and 1.x billion at home having to hear quami tarana. Wow wow wow

 

[MenInG]

Listen to Indian players describe the buzz

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[gazza619]

I would be pretty happy to see a match which is not one sided today

 

[Bhaijaan]

It was a great match and a great occasion.

We should have more of these

 

[MenInG]

When the PM of India tweets about a cricket game result...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1713202787633475646

 

[FearlessRoar]

(Bloomberg) -- Disney+ Hotstar, a regional streaming service owned by Walt Disney Co., drew a record 35 million concurrent viewers during a cricket world cup match between India and its arch rival Pakistan on Saturday.

That was the highest peak concurrency number achieved across all formats of cricket, the company said in a statement. The Men’s Cricket World Cup match in India’s Ahmedabad city marked a watershed moment for digital sports viewership across the country, it said.

India beat Pakistan by seven wickets in the match. The last peak concurrency was 28 million during the 2023 Asia Cup game between the two neighbors.

Disney has been weighing strategic options for its businesses in India, including an outright sale or setting up a joint venture, after the unit lost its streaming rights to the Indian Premier League cricket tournament to Viacom18 Media Pvt. Viacom is a joint venture between Reliance, Paramount Global and Uday Shankar’s investment firm Bodhi Tree Systems.

Viewers in the cricket-crazy nation tuned in to the Disney streaming service, which adopted a strategy from rival Reliance Industries Ltd. and showed the World Cup matches in India for free — a move aimed at clawing back some subscribers even if it means sacrificing revenue.


India is hosting the Cricket World Cup for the first time in 12 years, prompting fans to flock to stadiums and digital devices. The sport’s huge popularity in the country has made the Board of Control for Cricket in India among the richest sporting bodies in the world, thanks to the success of the glitzy, American franchise-style local Indian Premier League cricket contest.

The IPL has revolutionized the game since its inception in 2008, bringing Bollywood glamor to the sport. Described as the Super Bowl of cricket, it’s one of the world’s fastest-growing sporting events.

JioCinema, a streaming service owned by Mukesh Ambani’s conglomerate, in April drew more than 1.47 billion video views during the opening weekend of the IPL. The digital rights were secured by Asia’s richest man for $2.7 billion last year.

Source: Boomberg

 

[Technics 1210]

When the PM of India tweets about a cricket game result...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1713202787633475646

Except it is not the PM posting himself, it is his English speaking social media team.

 

[sugumarrising]

To be honest india vs pakistan rivalry is over in 2015 world cup, afterwards most of the matches are 1 sided and pakistan is not a match for india currently.

 

[rickroll]

As a pure cricketing contest - There is no rivalry given the skill and performance gap.

As a cricketing contest with the political backdrop - There is rivalry.

 

[CricketCartoons]

As a pure cricketing contest - There is no rivalry given the skill and performance gap.

As a cricketing contest with the political backdrop - There is rivalry.

Right, it is not a cricketing rivalry. Just an extension of the historical issues playing out in a stadium. About time indians focus on true sporting rivalries than this pseudo cricket rivalry. Didn't watch a single ball of the match. Was preparing for my half marathon the very next day.