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I've not kept up to date with all of her statements and what she's been up to, but how come she has become so unpopular in Pakistan?
 
Because Pakistanis believe 'the West' is using her as a puppet. They don't hate Malala but assume she's been brainwashed.
 
My dad explained it beautifully. He said the West always look to drag our reputation through the mud in order to continue to justify their wars on terror and they jump on any and every opportunity to prove to the world that we are backwards, inhumane and recognize absolutely no value of women's rights.

Now of course, those of us who have lived in Pakistan believe this to be entirely untrue. It is not like girls are completely not allowed to go to schools and colleges in Pakistan. It is only a certain few areas where we have had some issues but even there it is not rampant.

However, the western media jumped on this Malala opportunity as means to their end and Malala and her family let themselves be used by them for their own personal gains and fame and exposure to media.

Once again, she has my full sympathy on what happened to her and I hope we rid our country of the evil that plagues some of our areas but its ridiculous to drag our reputation through the mud in front of the whole world and somehow establishing this impression out there that none of our sisters and daughters are allowed to go to schools/colleges and get education.
 
Cause
1.She's a bad representation
2.Her father exploited her, endangered her just for fame and his political agenda.
3.She's being used by the west to show how tribalistic,primitive and violent Pakistanis are.
4.People think every girl in Pakistan is another Malala & that women don't go to schools and get shot up
5. There are millions of girls like Malala that never got the attention see got, and many of them were victims of the west.
 
Gabbar Singh said:
Disrespecting its Nobel laureates seems to be a bit of a tradition in Pakistan.
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.. and pretending to know a lot about Pakistan seems to be a pattern with some non Pakistani posters here. I wonder if they have some other agenda.
 
Pakistani PPers will able to explain better, but education for women is certainly not restricted in Pakistan with cities and semi urbanised areas having plenty of schools and universities - the only issue is undeveloped areas and also very conservative areas mostly in KPK, where the only role for women is to be a house wife.
 
Not really sure why someone would hate or idolize Malala. She's just a passive character in a bigger story.
 
Stewie said:
My dad explained it beautifully. He said the West always look to drag our reputation through the mud in order to continue to justify their wars on terror and they jump on any and every opportunity to prove to the world that we are backwards, inhumane and recognize absolutely no value of women's rights.

Now of course, those of us who have lived in Pakistan believe this to be entirely untrue. It is not like girls are completely not allowed to go to schools and colleges in Pakistan. It is only a certain few areas where we have had some issues but even there it is not rampant.

However, the western media jumped on this Malala opportunity as means to their end and Malala and her family let themselves be used by them for their own personal gains and fame and exposure to media.

Once again, she has my full sympathy on what happened to her and I hope we rid our country of the evil that plagues some of our areas but its ridiculous to drag our reputation through the mud in front of the whole world and somehow establishing this impression out there that none of our sisters and daughters are allowed to go to schools/colleges and get education.
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Brilliantly summed up!
 
Malala is just a propaganda tool.

Nothing more, nothing less.
 
I think Stewie explained the reason really well!

Other than that, it feels really good that a Pakistani won a Nobel prize! Also feels really good that one of the most popular and well known figure internationally is a Pakistani!
 
Why is Malala now so unpopular in Pakistan?
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1. The fundo's and mullah's don't like her because the shooting, and subsequent fame, cast a spotlight on their attitudes towards women's education.

2. The 'liberals' don't like her because it's highlighting their shortcomings - ie their incompetence, their corruption (eg diverting resources that should be spent on education), and the fact that she's doing their job for them.

3. The nature of (many - not all) Pakistanis. Instead of listening to the message, and working hard to rectify the shortcomings highlighted in the message, it's better to shoot the messenger.
 
I never hated her, but she has been used by some for political agendas.

I think she has Pakistans interests at heart but she should be careful on some who are trying to exploit her situation for propaganda purposes.
 
Stewie said:
Now of course, those of us who have lived in Pakistan believe this to be entirely untrue. It is not like girls are completely not allowed to go to schools and colleges in Pakistan. It is only a certain few areas where we have had some issues but even there it is not rampant.
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Opportunities for the few you mean.

Poor quality of schooling is leaving one in four grade 5 students unable to read a sentence, and one in two unable to read a story in Urdu/Sindhi/Pashtu - simple tasks that they should be able to achieve after being in school for just two years.

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It is important to delve deeper into the ASER data to understand who is in school and, amongst these children, who is learning. In terms of access, our recent analysis finds that while the vast majority of rich girls and boys in rural Pakistan are in school, over 40% of poor, rural girls aged 10-12 have never even been to school.

http://www.globalpartnership.org/bl...shows-stark-differences-between-rich-and-poor
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because when we look at her we are constantly reminded of the shame & failure to protect an innocent schoolgirl from violent extemism.

our misplaced and selfish bravado clouds our judgement & stops us from appreciating what a truly remarkable human being and an inspiration she is.

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Probably because she got to meet the POTUS!

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Credit: Pete Souza - White House (P101113PS-1119)
 
Far easier to smash the mirror that shows the ugly truth as opposed to fixing what the mirror shows
 
How is she being used as propaganda?

Man this is what I hate about Pakistanis, we are so afraid of showing our flaws to people that we will never be able to fix our problems.

We want to portray Pakistan as the safest country in the world free of crime, corruption, terrorism, etc.. when the fact of the matter is Pakistan has these problems in abundance.

Yes Malala seems trained by her dad on how to talk to the audience. This is evident, he is grooming her to be a political figure in the future.

Malala is definitely cashing in on her 15 minutes of fame, she is making money left right and center.

So what?

Whats wrong with making money while doing social work?

Malala advocates education for girls. Whats wrong with that?

Yes for the most part girls are allowed to go to school in Pakistan. However there are areas in Pakistan where for a short period of time girls the TTP banned girls from going to school in SWAT.

So has Malala told any lies? NO.

On top of that, when she got to meet president Obama she told him directly in person that she believed drone attacks were wrong and that innocent people are killed in the attacks!

We call her a propaganda tool, and those people that are selling innocent Pakistani citizen lives in drone attacks, we call those people heroes. Aaaah the irony.
 
Btw Malala isnt making Pakistan look bad, she is making crazy zealots look bad.

We should all make an effort to make crazy zealots look bad so that the world will differentiate normal Pakistanis then the ones they see on fox news.

Malala is doing her part it is the rest of us that are not.
 
Stewie said:
My dad explained it beautifully. He said the West always look to drag our reputation through the mud in order to continue to justify their wars on terror and they jump on any and every opportunity to prove to the world that we are backwards, inhumane and recognize absolutely no value of women's rights.

Now of course, those of us who have lived in Pakistan believe this to be entirely untrue. It is not like girls are completely not allowed to go to schools and colleges in Pakistan. It is only a certain few areas where we have had some issues but even there it is not rampant.

However, the western media jumped on this Malala opportunity as means to their end and Malala and her family let themselves be used by them for their own personal gains and fame and exposure to media.

Once again, she has my full sympathy on what happened to her and I hope we rid our country of the evil that plagues some of our areas but its ridiculous to drag our reputation through the mud in front of the whole world and somehow establishing this impression out there that none of our sisters and daughters are allowed to go to schools/colleges and get education.
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Stewie said:
My dad explained it beautifully. He said the West always look to drag our reputation through the mud in order to continue to justify their wars on terror and they jump on any and every opportunity to prove to the world that we are backwards, inhumane and recognize absolutely no value of women's rights.

Now of course, those of us who have lived in Pakistan believe this to be entirely untrue. It is not like girls are completely not allowed to go to schools and colleges in Pakistan. It is only a certain few areas where we have had some issues but even there it is not rampant.

However, the western media jumped on this Malala opportunity as means to their end and Malala and her family let themselves be used by them for their own personal gains and fame and exposure to media.

Once again, she has my full sympathy on what happened to her and I hope we rid our country of the evil that plagues some of our areas but its ridiculous to drag our reputation through the mud in front of the whole world and somehow establishing this impression out there that none of our sisters and daughters are allowed to go to schools/colleges and get education.
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The pakistani society should have jumped on the Malala opportunity, but they not only allowed the West to run away with her, they even started spreading rumours about her being a western conspiracy.
But why doesn't she talk against israeli occupation? But why doesn't she talk against drone strikes? A society which treats its own victim with such cynicism has no right to blame the west. She was one of Pakistan's daughter, and they failed her by not owning her cause.
 
Because most Pakistanis don't understand the value of Education. Sending kids to Schools is just a ritual. They would rather just hush hush everything in the name of non existent izzat. No wonder nothing gets done in Pakistan.
 
endymion248 said:
Not really sure why someone would hate or idolize Malala. She's just a passive character in a bigger story.
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Narrow minded people like you're the reason and also the reason for dragging Pakistan into dark ages. OPen your mind for FGS.
 
Not everyone hates her.Many admire her as well.

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tempus123 said:
What is her contribution to humanity apart from being a victim of terrorism ?
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It was not a random act of terror. She was specifically a victim of terrorism because she had been advocating education and encouraging girls age to pursue it and not be bogged down by threats from extremists. She maintained a well written blog when she projected the reality of the Swat Taliban to the outside world. Since the unfortunate incident she has gone from strength to strength and taken the message global. More than just education for girls now she has become a symbol for female independence all over the world as is someone girls all over take inspiration from. Especially in developing countries in South Asia and Africa she is someone the populace should look up to.
 
Yossarian said:
1. The fundo's and mullah's don't like her because the shooting, and subsequent fame, cast a spotlight on their attitudes towards women's education.

2. The 'liberals' don't like her because it's highlighting their shortcomings - ie their incompetence, their corruption (eg diverting resources that should be spent on education), and the fact that she's doing their job for them.

3. The nature of (many - not all) Pakistanis. Instead of listening to the message, and working hard to rectify the shortcomings highlighted in the message, it's better to shoot the messenger.
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Probably the best post I have seen on the issue and Malala in my time on PP.

So much truth
 
Slog said:
It was not a random act of terror. She was specifically a victim of terrorism because she had been advocating education and encouraging girls age to pursue it and not be bogged down by threats from extremists. She maintained a well written blog when she projected the reality of the Swat Taliban to the outside world. Since the unfortunate incident she has gone from strength to strength and taken the message global. More than just education for girls now she has become a symbol for female independence all over the world as is someone girls all over take inspiration from. Especially in developing countries in South Asia and Africa she is someone the populace should look up to.
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I understand that, but I think she would not have been given Nobel if she weren't shot, irrespective of her "efforts" at exposing the reality of Taliban.

There are thousands of people working to improve the lives of others on the ground. She was a symbolic nobel peace prize holder. I doubt she won it due to her work in the field of humanity.
 
tempus123 said:
I understand that, but I think she would not have been given Nobel if she weren't shot, irrespective of her "efforts" at exposing the reality of Taliban.

There are thousands of people working to improve the lives of others on the ground. She was a symbolic nobel peace prize holder. I doubt she won it due to her work in the field of humanity.
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She cashed in on that and became a global icon and is now an inspiration for young girls everywhere and has played her part in opening schools in many underdeveloped countries

She wasnt the first and unfortunatley wasnt the last girl attacked in this regard
 
Slog said:
She cashed in on that and became a global icon and is now an inspiration for young girls everywhere and has played her part in opening schools in many underdeveloped countries

She wasnt the first and unfortunatley wasnt the last girl attacked in this regard
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I don't understand this 'inspiration' part. Do girls in the underdeveloped world think of her as their icon and start their education which they otherwise wouldn't have ?
 
tempus123 said:
I don't understand this 'inspiration' part. Do girls in the underdeveloped world think of her as their icon and start their education which they otherwise wouldn't have ?
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they can see her as an example that even if there is societal pressure or male domination which doesnt want them to be educated they can still do it if they put the heart and effort in
 
Yossarian said:
1. The fundo's and mullah's don't like her because the shooting, and subsequent fame, cast a spotlight on their attitudes towards women's education.

2. The 'liberals' don't like her because it's highlighting their shortcomings - ie their incompetence, their corruption (eg diverting resources that should be spent on education), and the fact that she's doing their job for them.

3. The nature of (many - not all) Pakistanis. Instead of listening to the message, and working hard to rectify the shortcomings highlighted in the message, it's better to shoot the messenger.
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This is the impression I get. Her very existence holds up a mirror to a lot of people, and they do not like what they see in it, so instead of changing themselves for the better, they blame the mirror.
 
Slog said:
they can see her as an example that even if there is societal pressure or male domination which doesnt want them to be educated they can still do it if they put the heart and effort in
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Is there any survey or study done in underdeveloped countries where young girls took to education citing Malala as an inspiration ?
 
tempus123 said:
Is there any survey or study done in underdeveloped countries where young girls took to education citing Malala as an inspiration ?
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Maybe you should do your own research.
 
Slog said:
Maybe you should do your own research.
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Weren't you making the claim ?

and became a global icon and is now an inspiration for young girls everywhere.
they can see her as an example that even if

I didn't miss the term "can".. but it doesn't prove the 1st statement.
 
Two things:

1) superficial concept of honor
2) inferiority complex

Just look at the amount of posts that talk about what "the West thinks". These people care so much about what the West *thinks* that they find it more important than the fact that millions of girls in Pakistan remain uneducated.

Basically these morons give more importance to the thoughts and attitudes of the white man then the shitty experience of millions of our young girls.

They also think that Malala is a tool used to justify war - the most idiotic notion every presented. America has been pounding Pakistan for it's existence. Malala was not shot the day before America decided to launch done strikes.

In essence, when you take nationalism, inferiority complex, add to it medieval concepts of honor and a lack of empathy for social issues you get the dumb bitter Pakistani that is fully well represented in this thread.
 
^ not making the claim

just informing you of the reasons which many articles and even books have expanded on
 
People say she has defamed Pakistan which is totally bizzare and mind-boggling.

She didn`t defame Pakistan, those who shot her did.We always blame others for our shortcomings.

We are not willing to accept and rectify our shortcomings.

The whole world is conspiring against Pakistan!This mindset has destroyed us.

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Yossarian said:
1. The fundo's and mullah's don't like her because the shooting, and subsequent fame, cast a spotlight on their attitudes towards women's education.

2. The 'liberals' don't like her because it's highlighting their shortcomings - ie their incompetence, their corruption (eg diverting resources that should be spent on education), and the fact that she's doing their job for them.

3. The nature of (many - not all) Pakistanis. Instead of listening to the message, and working hard to rectify the shortcomings highlighted in the message, it's better to shoot the messenger.
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And this nails down the real answer.

We Indians are same like Pakistanis too. Want to project a nice image instead of looking at the core truth.

LOL at other replies here.
 
Slog said:
Probably the best post I have seen on the issue and Malala in my time on PP.

So much truth
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And that's why my friend...you are one of my favourite posters here. I replied to that post and then saw yours here.

Not much difference between all desi people when it comes to this national respect issues. In that aspect, we are all one and the same.
 
Slog said:
^ not making the claim

just informing you of the reasons which many articles and even books have expanded on
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I believe she was just propagated by western media, and citing her as an 'inspiration' was a media propaganda.

I may be wrong, because I haven't done enough research to say this irrefutably, but if there are some real studies done on her impact on the humanity (and not as a victim, but as an inspiration to girls education), that'd be great.

Her Indian counterpart on the other hand, did years of ground work for child labor in India which he was awarded the nobel for.
 
tempus123 said:
I believe she was just propagated by western media, and citing her as an 'inspiration' was a media propaganda.

I may be wrong, because I haven't done enough research to say this irrefutably, but if there are some real studies done on her impact on the humanity (and not as a victim, but as an inspiration to girls education), that'd be great.

Her Indian counterpart on the other hand, did years of ground work for child labor in India which he was awarded the nobel for.
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She may or may not have been propagated by the western media for their own purposes.But that does not take away from why she is admired. Also she was definitely not a nobody before she was attacked. Her movement was having a good on-the-ground effect in Swat which is why she was specifically targetted

But her overall impact is very positive and it has taken an issue which was ignored and kept inside the conservative society's to a global level and have forced a conversation on this ugly aspect of our society where many girls in rural areas are not even 'allowed' to pursue education. Even if 100 girls feel more freedom to go to school now than before Malala, she has had a very positive impact on the world.
 
Tbh, I don't mind this. Malala still being popular means she will be joining political parties which isn't a good thing, never is.

She just needs to focus on her education and motivating other people in Pakistan and around the world. After all she's just a teen.
 
Slog said:
She may or may not have been propagated by the western media for their own purposes.But that does not take away from why she is admired. Also she was definitely not a nobody before she was attacked. Her movement was having a good on-the-ground effect in Swat which is why she was specifically targetted

But her overall impact is very positive and it has taken an issue which was ignored and kept inside the conservative society's to a global level and have forced a conversation on this ugly aspect of our society where many girls in rural areas are not even 'allowed' to pursue education. Even if 100 girls feel more freedom to go to school now than before Malala, she has had a very positive impact on the world.
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Again, there is probably no study that I know of, which proved her impact on the society. You are confusing her image which should work as an inspiration with the real inspiration she is propagating.

Comparing her to Kailash, who had years of solid work to actually show the impact on condition of child labor in India, I can see that Malala was given a symbolic peace prize, just like Obama.
 
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tempus123 said:
Again, there is probably no study that I know of, which proved her impact on the society. You are confusing her image which should work as an inspiration with the real inspiration she is propagating.

Comparing her to Kailash, who had years of solid work to actually show the impact on condition of child labor in India, I can see that Malala was given a symbolic peace prize, just like Obama.
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And therein lies the difference. Between the hard-working, on the ground, foot soldiers and their generals / leaders who provide the inspiration and direction. Nobody remembers the foot-soldiers whereas those who provide the inspiration and leadership go down in history.

Apart from a few Indians, and even there not many of them, already nobody remembers Kailash despite the great amount of good work he has done and is still doing, but Malala, at age 18, has already become an icon on the world stage, being feted by the world's Presidents and Prime Ministers. Kailash is the aforementioned foot soldier, Malala is the symbol of inspiration.
 
Yossarian said:
And therein lies the difference. Between the hard-working, on the ground, foot soldiers and their generals / leaders who provide the inspiration and direction. Nobody remembers the foot-soldiers whereas those who provide the inspiration and leadership go down in history.

Apart from a few Indians, and even there not many of them, already nobody remembers Kailash despite the great amount of good work he has done and is still doing, but Malala, at age 18, has already become an icon on the world stage, being feted by the world's Presidents and Prime Ministers. Kailash is the aforementioned foot soldier, Malala is the symbol of inspiration.
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Malala is inspiration to whom ?
 
Don't care about her popularity is rising or declining. Meri taraf se to bhaar me jaye wo:))) [MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION] [MENTION=133532]Ottoman[/MENTION] [MENTION=30287]Sakss[/MENTION]
 
personally i agree with both stewie and yossarian. Malala is an interesting case. What she has become should be owned by Pakistan. We are missing a big opportunity to own her message and help her help Pakistan. Its a bit narrow minded and stupid to ignore her just because the "West" tries to use her for their own ends. Its also incumbent on Pakistanis to show the world they arent a bunch of women hating junglis.

She has built up some success and Pakistan really needs to own her. She is a pakistani afterall and from what i can tell is a proud Pakistani. Why not help her?

On the flip side there is no doubt the west is using her to portray Pakistan as described in posts above. But how to counter that? simple own Malala and her message, take the emssage away from those who want to exploit her. The west has no real sympathy for her, they simply see her as a tool to be used for their ends. And once she has served her purpose they will discard her. As pakistanis we shouldnt allow her to be used and we really need to get behind her!!
 
tempus123 said:
Malala is inspiration to whom ?
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Many Prime Ministers, Presidents, charity organisations, obviously thinks she's an inspiration to someone.

Even hundreds of thousands of Indians have been inspired by her message:

Over five lakh postcards sent to PMO under Malala Yousafzai’s Action/2015 campaign


Malala Yousafzai announced the campaign when she accepted the Nobel Peace Prize, shared with child rights' activist Kailash Satyarthi, last December 2014.

Over 500,000 Indians have sent postcards to Prime Minister Narendra Modi under the Action/2015 campaign of Nobel Laureate Malala Yousafzai, urging him to represent their voices at the UN General Assembly later this year ahead of sustainable development goals (SDGs) being adopted for the next 15 years.

Thousands of men, women, children and activists from India have also met political leaders and lawmakers to discuss issues like poverty and inequality.

Action/2015, a coalition of over 1,600 organizations in around 160 countries, is arguably one of the biggest campaigns in the world.

Yousafzai announced the campaign when she accepted the Nobel Peace Prize, shared with child rights’ activist Kailash Satyarthi, last December 2014. It was launched in India in January 2015 across 15 states.

“There have been over five lakh (500,000) postcards sent by people from marginalised communities directly to the Prime Minister’s Office. These postcards appeal to him to think on issues of sanitation, health, education and repeal of the Armed Forces Special Protection Act (AFSPA) in the northeast,” Pragya Vats, An action/2015 campaigner from NGO Save the Children, told IANS.

The campaign has been framed ahead of three crucial summits – UN Conference on Financing for Development in July, the UN General Assembly in September and Conference on Climate Change in December – which together will decide the formulation of global Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs). These are 15-year commitments by world leaders to end man-made climate change, eradicate poverty and address inequality in the world.

“If we get this wrong, we could see the number of people living in poverty increase for the first time in our generation. But if we get it right – tackle poverty, inequality and climate change – we could eradicate extreme poverty within a generation,” said Amitabh Behar, an Indian anti-poverty activist who has been playing a lead role in the campaign, told IANS.

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Does that answer your question "Malala is inspiration to whom ?" ?
 
Stewie said:
My dad explained it beautifully. He said the West always look to drag our reputation through the mud in order to continue to justify their wars on terror and they jump on any and every opportunity to prove to the world that we are backwards, inhumane and recognize absolutely no value of women's rights.

Now of course, those of us who have lived in Pakistan believe this to be entirely untrue. It is not like girls are completely not allowed to go to schools and colleges in Pakistan. It is only a certain few areas where we have had some issues but even there it is not rampant.

However, the western media jumped on this Malala opportunity as means to their end and Malala and her family let themselves be used by them for their own personal gains and fame and exposure to media.

Once again, she has my full sympathy on what happened to her and I hope we rid our country of the evil that plagues some of our areas but its ridiculous to drag our reputation through the mud in front of the whole world and somehow establishing this impression out there that none of our sisters and daughters are allowed to go to schools/colleges and get education.
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A section of India's middle class feels the same for media reporting's of "Rape"
 
tempus123 said:
Did you talk to these women or any news item ?
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People listen through the ears of Media and talks through the tongue of Media. But, i have personally visited dozens time that places, Malala is role model for every female there but except very few, conflict of ideas are every where you know. But majority number of girls praise Malala a lot.
 
Yossarian said:
Many Prime Ministers, Presidents, charity organisations, obviously thinks she's an inspiration to someone.

Even hundreds of thousands of Indians have been inspired by her message:

Does that answer your question "Malala is inspiration to whom ?" ?
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Please highlight the work she has done also. That will be great.
 
Donal Cozzie said:
Far easier to smash the mirror that shows the ugly truth as opposed to fixing what the mirror shows
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And what makes you think we're not fixing it?I could make the same generalizations about White people, but then you would play the race care.

Typical.
 
Malala also issued an open letter to world leaders calling on them to make 2015 the year in which they, and the rest of the world “commit to seeing the last child out of school, the last child forced into slavery and the last child forced to flee their home because of the danger of climate change”

Her letter is focused on the opportunities of the two global summits in 2015 to achieve action on poverty, inequalities and climate change, explaining: “If the right decisions are made and kept we could see the beginnings of a better future in 2015. A future of ‘lasts’, rather than half measures.”

The letter also expresses Malala’s support for – action/2015.
 
This is our chance to commit to do better. That is why I am issuing a call today to urge
you to raise your ambition. If the right decisions are made and kept we could see the
beginnings of a better future in 2015. A future of ‘lasts’, rather than half measures.
 
What kind of "open letter" is this, really ? It sounds like GetWellSoon messages, which don't mean much.
 
tempus123 said:
What kind of "open letter" is this, really ? It sounds like GetWellSoon messages, which don't mean much.
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Are you saying malala is a trophy nobel laureate and that she did not work as much as her INdian counterpart..... is that the point you are driving at
 
leg-side-flick said:
Are you saying malala is a trophy nobel laureate and that she did not work as much as her INdian counterpart..... is that the point you are driving at
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Not Indian counterpart.. that is irrelevant apart from sharing the stage on nobel prize, but thousands of people around the world who did in fact work for the humanity.

I am not saying she didn't do work, I am saying I don't know if she did it.

I believe (not know) that her being shot had a lot to do with all her popularity than doing anything good that she did in the field of girl education.
 
tempus123 said:
Not Indian counterpart.. that is irrelevant apart from sharing the stage on nobel prize, but thousands of people around the world who did in fact work for the humanity.

I am not saying she didn't do work, I am saying I don't know if she did it.

I believe (not know) that her being shot had a lot to do with all her popularity than doing anything good that she did in the field of girl education.
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The innocent girl was shot at by the evil talibs but she survived and then thrived... therafter she put egg on the evil talib faces and became a page 3 personality (the goodie wala personality)....

Pappy taught her how to speak and she then spread her good words everywhere, a lot of people sought inspiration from her and she also started to do good work....

Overall a very good story, much better than most but we can always choose to nitpick
 
combintion of her father and the the fear misplaced or otherwise that his is aother leader prepared by the west to rule Pakistan.

I dont have anything against the girl, what happened to her was completely wrong. I agree with 90% of what she campaigns on but there is a bit where i reckon it might be her mouth but the words aren't hers. Some parts of her books are a treatise on Pakistani and Islamic society. Clearly most of that isn't from at the time a teenage girl but rather the political views and background of her dad and his advisers

the hate she gets is unfair but its not hard to understand, conversely i dont think all criticism against her is hate.

Personally i say cautiously support her political views , 100% support her story
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
Some parts of her books are a treatise on Pakistani and Islamic society. Clearly most of that isn't from at the time a teenage girl but rather the political views and background of her dad and his advisers
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Exactly my thoughts i remember her launching pad (BBC) back in 2008-09 she used to write a diary as 11/12 year old in BBC with the pen name Gul Makai
 
Strike Rate said:
Exactly my thoughts i remember her launching pad (BBC) back in 2008-09 she used to write a diary as 11/12 year old in BBC with the pen name Gul Makai
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problem is that any criticism against her (or fathers) political veiws/ background is seen as attacking a girl who got shot in the head. Its like how for a long time any criticism on Israel was seen as an attack on holocaust survivors.

Its not an easy thing to do especially when some do just genuinely hate her, people conflate the two things.
 
She did her GCSEs two years late and I still beat her which must put a dampener on things especially as education is valued so highly in Pakistan

People do post grads and masters much more than they do in England, the majority of them being female
 
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