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Plight of Hindus in Bangladesh after coup

sweep_shot said:
Agree with you minorities should be protected.

Now that there is an interim government (lead by respect Dr. Yunus), things will begin to cool down in sha Allah.

This is indeed Bangladesh's responsibility.

Indian media and Indians should stop spreading fake news. They should remember Bangladesh is not a colony of India.
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I have called out fake news multiple times in this thread. But this reports are correct. Some of them have returned home when military promised security to them, but I don't think all of them have been reached yet. The interim goverment should help to bring in law and order. But the police force have been almost decimated, and they are afraid for their lives. Also the BNP has already started doing chandabaji instead of league( demanding protection money for doing business.)
 
globetrotter said:
India must protect Hindus in Bangladesh… during gulf war and crises in Middle East Indian government evacuated them as Indian
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Bangladesh should protect minorities in Bangladesh.

India should protect Kashmiri Muslims and other Muslims in India (from cow vigilante mobs and other extremist groups).
 
sweep_shot said:
Agree with you minorities should be protected.

Now that there is an interim government (lead by respect Dr. Yunus), things will begin to cool down in sha Allah.

This is indeed Bangladesh's responsibility.

Indian media and Indians should stop spreading fake news. They should remember Bangladesh is not a colony of India.
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FYI Dawn is a karachi, Pakistan based newspaper
 
Romali_rotti said:
I didn't dodge anything or say something different.

I stated west & east of India are failures and I am right Pakistan & Bangladesh, both are muslim majority. I could've been more clearer and said the sub continent which most ppl with common sense would understand that is what I was eluding to considering the nature of this thread...

Some of you Pakistanis just don't get it, you have been a failure since your creation, in another 20 years situation most likely at best; things would remain the same or get worse. Bangladesh pretty much the cut from the same cloth as Pakistan on its way to being another failure.

You can sit there and make excuses, unique global conditions, Hindutva this, RSS that, India is bad, Kashmir, Palestine Blah Blah Blah end of the day your religion does play a part in your failures, its just reality.

INB4, British Pakistanis reply back with how Pakistan is better than India and how things will change in the future, same Pakistanis who contribute almost nothing towards the betterment of Pakistan.....
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Should I use your original quote? Who re you trying to fool.
 
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The guy from this video is not part of any mainstream political party, but the leader of Hindu Mohajot Sabha.

It is most unfortunate that the people from this minority groups are affected in this riot, but most of them are from Awami league. Very very few hindu people who have got nothing to do with any political party were harmed. Even then it is absolutely not acceptable to harm or vandalize any even one properties of Hindu people.

But what is not being mentioned in the Indian media, that much more properties and life of muslim people have been harmed and destroyed in this riot, and again most of them are from Awami League. They are only focusing on one group of people for their apparent agenda. Where the real truth is that, this riot has more to do political prejuidice than religious reasons.
 
smkk said:
The guy from this video is not part of any mainstream political party, but the leader of Hindu Mohajot Sabha.

It is most unfortunate that the people from this minority groups are affected in this riot, but most of them are from Awami league. Very very few hindu people who have got nothing to do with any political party were harmed. Even then it is absolutely not acceptable to harm or vandalize any even one properties of Hindu people.

But what is not being mentioned in the Indian media, that much more properties and life of muslim people have been harmed and destroyed in this riot, and again most of them are from Awami League. They are only focusing on one group of people for their apparent agenda. Where the real truth is that, this riot has more to do political prejuidice than religious reasons.
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This guy in recent time has been seen sharing stage with BNP, so take whatever they are saying with a grain of salt.
 
smkk said:
The guy from this video is not part of any mainstream political party, but the leader of Hindu Mohajot Sabha.

It is most unfortunate that the people from this minority groups are affected in this riot, but most of them are from Awami league. Very very few hindu people who have got nothing to do with any political party were harmed. Even then it is absolutely not acceptable to harm or vandalize any even one properties of Hindu people.

But what is not being mentioned in the Indian media, that much more properties and life of muslim people have been harmed and destroyed in this riot, and again most of them are from Awami League. They are only focusing on one group of people for their apparent agenda. Where the real truth is that, this riot has more to do political prejuidice than religious reasons.
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Agree.

This conflict is not a Muslim vs Hindu thing. It is about Bangladeshi people taking revenge on Awami League members/leaders for their 15 years long oppression. Some Awami League folks are Hindus and some are Muslims. People are angry at them.

Indian posters and Indian media seem to deliberately ignore this. Probably because they are saddened by their puppet's (Hasina) departure.
 
anikrc1 said:
This guy in recent time has been seen sharing stage with BNP, so take whatever they are saying with a grain of salt.
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What's wrong with sharing stage with BNP? Does it automatically make him not credible?

He is one of the Hindu leaders in Bangladesh.
 
sweep_shot said:
What's wrong with sharing stage with BNP? Does it automatically make him not credible?

He is one of the Hindu leaders in Bangladesh.
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It doesn't make him not credible. But surely you can understand having some doubts at taking his words in face value.
 
anikrc1 said:
It doesn't make him not credible. But surely you can understand having some doubts at taking his words in face value.
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I don't doubt his statements.

Bangladeshi people are trying to protect/help minorities. I have seen this on social media too.

Anyway, things seem to be cooling down now. That's a good sign. Now that interim government is in charge, I hope there will be progresses.
 
sweep_shot said:
I don't doubt his statements.

Bangladeshi people are trying to protect/help minorities. I have seen this on social media too.

What he is saying matches with what I saw on social media.

Anyway, things seem to be cooling down now. That's a good sign.
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This guy is also an agent of RSS. You would do better to be doubtful of him. Geopolitics is not black and white.
 
anikrc1 said:
This guy is also an agent of RSS. You would do better to be doubtful of him. Geopolitics is not black and white.
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How can he be an agent of RSS and share stage with BNP? That's very odd. LOL.

Anyway, I am just saying he got it right that Bangladeshis were trying to protect minorities from some bad apples.

Hopefully things will go back to normalcy soon.
 
Romali_rotti said:
Where did I try to fool anyone ?

I said West to East of India are failures and I am right Pakistan and Bangladesh...
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Nah wishful thinking Cap if India was a Muslim country it would be another Pakistan..

India is where it is today mainly because of its Hindu majority (success wise)

Proof is in the pudding when you look on the opposites sides of India be it West or East..
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How am I supposed to (or anybody for that matter) interpret this?
 
Stewie said:
How am I supposed to (or anybody for that matter) interpret this?
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I don't really care how you interpret it.

Muslim majority Pakistan and Bangladesh are failures you can't deny it.

Whilst a Hindu majority India is not..
 
Stewie said:
How am I supposed to (or anybody for that matter) interpret this?
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All surrounding countries to India are failed states which are mostly Islamic

India is not the same case. Correlation is not causation. But again there is some truth to it.
 
There is so much wrong with @romalli_rotti claims. First he is claiming Pak and BD are failures and India is a resounding success. LOL. Then he claims its because of the majority faiths in the countries and India is "where it is today because of its Hindu majority". WOW!

Then I asked what about Nepal which is majority Hindu? and I don't think he understood that part, which I am honestly not totally surprised about.

Anyhow, I would like to add here the Indian Hindus are getting their knickers in a total bunch over BD right now. I completely sympathize with the Hindus there. But let us not turn this into a Muslim vs Hindu thing again.

We have faced this pain and we are still facing this pain in Gaza. We would be the last ones to try and justify and rejoice over what is happening to Hindus in BD. I am sure better sense will prevail in the end.
 
IndoorCricket said:
All surrounding countries to India are failed states which are mostly Islamic

India is not the same case. Correlation is not causation. But again there is some truth to it.
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The bigger correlation is we were all part of the British commonwealth. Maybe think about that
 
Stewie said:
There is so much wrong with @romalli_rotti claims. First he is claiming Pak and BD are failures and India is a resounding success. LOL. Then he claims its because of the majority faiths in the countries and India is "where it is today because of its Hindu majority". WOW!

Then I asked what about Nepal which is majority Hindu? and I don't think he understood that part, which I am honestly not totally surprised about.

Anyhow, I would like to add here the Indian Hindus are getting their knickers in a total bunch over BD right now. I completely sympathize with the Hindus there. But let us not turn this into a Muslim vs Hindu thing again.

We have faced this pain and we are still facing this pain in Gaza. We would be the last ones to try and justify and rejoice over what is happening to Hindus in BD. I am sure better sense will prevail in the end.
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India is definitely a resounding success in running scam call centres and scamming vulnerable old people.

Wouldn't be surprised if @Romali_rotti is proud of it too.

India is still a third world country and millions are still in poverty.
 
Stewie said:
The bigger correlation is we were all part of the British commonwealth. Maybe think about that
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Yeah that's it, you solved this riddle..

British are to blame, Pakistani being a Pakistani, nothing is our fault look for others to blame for our failures and pathetic state of affairs.. Excuses, excuses.

You lot are hopeless lol.. 🙏
 
sweep_shot said:
India is definitely a resounding success in running scam call centres and scamming vulnerable old people.

Wouldn't be surprised if @Romali_rotti is proud of it too.

India is still a third world country and millions are still in poverty.
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But sweep shot bro your idol Zakir Naik comes from India.

😇
 
Stewie said:
You are just proving my point. LOL

just wow!
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What's your point? I Think you gave examples of Islamic countries which were more of a success than India. But most of them don't have any lasting legacy or scientific achievements. The gulf countries research instituted have more foreigners than citizens. I don't think it's fair to claim they are more successful than India just because they were sitting on oil. India's scientific and cultural achievements are result of it's own.
 
anikrc1 said:
What's your point? I Think you gave examples of Islamic countries which were more of a success than India. But most of them don't have any lasting legacy or scientific achievements. The gulf countries research instituted have more foreigners than citizens. I don't think it's fair to claim they are more successful than India just because they were sitting on oil. India's scientific and cultural achievements are result of it's own.
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What scientific or cultural achievements are we exactly talking about? and what is really the yardstick here? I am utterly astounded at the level of smugness here. What is a cultural achievements? You guys stopped pouring metal into lower caste people who happened to hear words of Brahmins? Or is there some other earth shattering stuff here we have not heard of?

And what is the standard here and does it even matter? Has Norway or Denmark put a rocket on the moon, if that's what you are referring to? Does that mean India is somehow a better nation just on the basis of that (or more successful)?

The smugness might work internally with you guys but you are not fooling anybody here. Sorry!
 
Red-Indian said:
If it helps you sleep well, sure go ahead and believe that Hindutvas only objective is to taunt/demonise all Muslims but Islamists restrict themselves only to taunting Hindutvas. I suppose you also want to believe that Hindutvas are a bigger proportion of the Hindu population than Islamists are of Muslims. Feel free to have at it.

From a (somewhat) neutral perspective, it sure seems like both sides are equal offenders. I mentioned to @sweep_shot earlier in this thread that both sides could probably use each other's posts with a couple of key words substituted. Or maybe just interchanged. Here's an example

What's happening to ______ (use Palestinian Muslims/Bangladeshi Hindus as appropriate) is a great tragedy but you have to understand the emotions of the ____ (use oppressed Bangladeshis / attacked Israelis as appropriate). Isn't it funny that the mighty ____ (use India/Ummah) can't save them?
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I sleep soundly knowing that one of Hindutva's primary objectives is to taunt and dehumanize all Muslims.

I become uneasy when Muslims are unable to defend and protect the minorities living in their lands.

Bangladesh has failed to protect its minorities, and every Bangladeshi bears responsibility for the plight of Bangladeshi minorities, especially after a legitimate organic political protest succeeded in removing a Prime Minister of Bangladesh.

Your observation is absolutely incorrect.

Hindutva adherents celebrate when, under the guise of reclaiming their land, thousands of Muslims are killed, finding myriad excuses to justify such genocide. How many of these adherents are celebrating and fervently defending the atrocities committed against Bangladeshi minorities? Most, if not all, have condemned the violence as soon as the images emerged from Bangladesh. Hindus have doubled down when confronted with defending genocide.

The Ummah's response merely mirrors Hindutva's actions. Despite having 1.2 billion Hindus, the fifth-largest economy, and the fourth-largest military, they could not prevent the violence against Bangladeshi Hindus. This seemingly absurd statement is intended to highlight the hypocrisy of Hindutva supporters. They demand that over a billion Muslims should march towards Palestine to end the genocide there—a genocide that many within the Hindutva movement directly or indirectly support. This exposes the inherent bigotry in their rhetoric.

Let us not play dumb and pretend you are incapable of comprehending elementary English comments within the context of this discussion. Also, try not to equate the Muslims on this forum with the Hindutva bigots present here.
 
Stewie said:
What scientific or cultural achievements are we exactly talking about? and what is really the yardstick here? I am utterly astounded at the level of smugness here. What is a cultural achievements? You guys stopped pouring metal into lower caste people who happened to hear words of Brahmins? Or is there some other earth shattering stuff here we have not heard of?

And what is the standard here and does it even matter? Has Norway or Denmark put a rocket on the moon, if that's what you are referring to? Does that mean India is somehow a better nation just on the basis of that (or more successful)?

The smugness might work internally with you guys but you are not fooling anybody here. Sorry!
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Look at any top universities in the world. Look at their faculties in science. Who do you think will be more represented, Arab countries or India? As for Norway and Denmark, we do produce same quality of research than them, despite being much poorer. We are inferior to USA, France, England, Korea, Japan, China, Germany obviously. But we are catching up quickly. Apart from Iran, other Islamic countries are not our match. India placed fourth in both the physics and maths olympiad this year. A great achievement for a third world country. Again only Iran has similar results here. And yes, landing a rocket in the moon is a great achievement, I don't know why you try to belittle that.
 
deltexas said:
That is what i was saying. No Arabs will seek to migrate to ind or SC. I said SC people incl ind pak ban etc will migrate to arab countries and not the other way around. And you are making the same point i mentioned regarding affluence as in ummah has no significance.
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Oh yea, if you had not mentioned it or I forgot to mentioned then that mean Pakistani are unaware of that fact.

But anyways, you still won't understand.
 
anikrc1 said:
Look at any top universities in the world. Look at their faculties in science. Who do you think will be more represented, Arab countries or India? As for Norway and Denmark, we do produce same quality of research than them, despite being much poorer. We are inferior to USA, France, England, Korea, Japan, China, Germany obviously. But we are catching up quickly. Apart from Iran, other Islamic countries are not our match. India placed fourth in both the physics and maths olympiad this year. A great achievement for a third world country. Again only Iran has similar results here. And yes, landing a rocket in the moon is a great achievement, I don't know why you try to belittle that.
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And Arabs will have those Indian immigrant along with westerners working in their Universities as professor and researchers.
 
anikrc1 said:
Look at any top universities in the world. Look at their faculties in science. Who do you think will be more represented, Arab countries or India? As for Norway and Denmark, we do produce same quality of research than them, despite being much poorer. We are inferior to USA, France, England, Korea, Japan, China, Germany obviously. But we are catching up quickly. Apart from Iran, other Islamic countries are not our match. India placed fourth in both the physics and maths olympiad this year. A great achievement for a third world country. Again only Iran has similar results here. And yes, landing a rocket in the moon is a great achievement, I don't know why you try to belittle that.
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It is an achievement but these are all subjective standards of success IS MY POINT and somehow drawing a conclusion that the majority faith in the country has something to do with it is a downright mistake.

Scandinavian countries boast the status of the happiest nations on the planet and they don't have a lot of representation in top universities in the world. does that make them a failure compared to India? More importantly, can you a draw a conclusion that majority of them being Christians has something to do with it?
 
Romali_rotti said:
I don't really care how you interpret it.

Muslim majority Pakistan and Bangladesh are failures you can't deny it.

Whilst a Hindu majority India is not..
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I suggest you to reconsider your views about India , India has not even achieved one global sustainable goals
 
Stewie said:
It is an achievement but these are all subjective standards of success IS MY POINT and somehow drawing a conclusion that the majority faith in the country has something to do with it is a downright mistake.

Scandinavian countries boast the status of the happiest nations on the planet and they don't have a lot of representation in top universities in the world. does that make them a failure compared to India? More importantly, can you a draw a conclusion that majority of them being Christians has something to do with it?
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The majority faith ofcourse doesn't have anything to do with it. I never claimed that.
 
Romali_rotti said:
I don't really care how you interpret it.

Muslim majority Pakistan and Bangladesh are failures you can't deny it.

Whilst a Hindu majority India is not..
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Until the early 1990s, India struggled with numerous challenges. However, they then focused on education and development, leading to significant improvements. Now, India is performing better than both Pakistan and Bangladesh.

Before the early 1990s, was India not a Hindu-majority country?
 
anikrc1 said:
The majority faith ofcourse doesn't have anything to do with it. I never claimed that.
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thank you for that. I never said you did. But the reason I went down this path was because of @Romali_rotti's post which clearly implied that. This whole line of argument was around his implication, not yours. I think this ridiculous to drag difference in faith into this debate, is what I am contending. That's all.
 
HalBass9 said:
And Arabs will have those Indian immigrant along with westerners working in their Universities as professor and researchers.
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Because of the oil money. Do you think that it's an achievement for a nation to sit on oil?
No complain if you talk about Iran, their achievement are their own not bought by oil money. I do respect them.
 
HalBass9 said:
Until the early 1990s, India struggled with numerous challenges. However, they then focused on education and development, leading to significant improvements. Now, India is performing better than both Pakistan and Bangladesh.

Before the early 1990s, was India not a Hindu-majority country?
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Or when the Mughals ruled India, was it because India was not a Hindu-majority country?

It is ridiculous to try to make other Hindus appear as unintelligent as your comments suggest.
 
anikrc1 said:
Because of the oil money. Do you think that it's an achievement for a nation to sit on oil?
No complain if you talk about Iran, their achievement are their own not bought by oil money. I do respect them.
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They are leveraging their natural resources and now making advances toward other industries.

What is wrong with that?

Compared to the UAE, India looks like a third-world country.
 
FearlessRoar said:
I suggest you to reconsider your views about India , India has not even achieved one global sustainable goals
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I suggest you compare that with other nations that came out of colonial rule at the same time and are democratic nations.
 
HalBass9 said:
They are leveraging their natural resources and now making advances toward other industries.

What is wrong with that?

Compared to the UAE, India looks like a third-world country.
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I am noticing a lot of Arab faculty members in US universities now in fact.
 
HalBass9 said:
They are leveraging their natural resources and now making advances toward other industries.

What is wrong with that?

Compared to the UAE, India looks like a third-world country.
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Their advances towards other industries is totally dependent on talents from other countries. I was in a research institute in UAE for a year. They have very few locals in their programs.
 
anikrc1 said:
Their advances towards other industries is totally dependent on talents from other countries. I was in a research institute in UAE for a year. They have very few locals in their programs.
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So, what is your point?
Many Western countries rely on talented immigrants to continue advancing as leaders in various fields.

This is precisely the point. When a Muslim country leverages its natural resources to improve the lives of not only its own citizens but also people from around the world migrating to those countries, it is often still looked down upon by some Indians simply because it is a Muslim country.

There are thousands of Indians who seek to move to Arab countries in search of jobs, despite India being the 5th largest economy. However, there are not many Muslim Arabs who would choose to move to India.

This is a perfect example of subconscious and inherited bigotry.
 
HalBass9 said:
So, what is your point?
Many Western countries rely on talented immigrants to continue advancing as leaders in various fields.

This is precisely the point. When a Muslim country leverages its natural resources to improve the lives of not only its own citizens but also people from around the world migrating to those countries, it is often still looked down upon by some Indians simply because it is a Muslim country.

There are thousands of Indians who seek to move to Arab countries in search of jobs, despite India being the 5th largest economy. However, there are not many Muslim Arabs who would choose to move to India.

This is a perfect example of subconscious and inherited bigotry.
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I am not looking down on them. For comparison it's somewhat like EPl, where because of the talented foreign players the clubs are great, but the English National team more often than not comes up short. The La liga clubs on the other hand rely on homegrown talents more, the Spanish team as a result is the most successful national team this century.
 
HalBass9 said:
So, what is your point?
Many Western countries rely on talented immigrants to continue advancing as leaders in various fields.

This is precisely the point. When a Muslim country leverages its natural resources to improve the lives of not only its own citizens but also people from around the world migrating to those countries, it is often still looked down upon by some Indians simply because it is a Muslim country.

There are thousands of Indians who seek to move to Arab countries in search of jobs, despite India being the 5th largest economy. However, there are not many Muslim Arabs who would choose to move to India.

This is a perfect example of subconscious and inherited bigotry.
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As I said, if you mentioned Iran as an Islamic country they have my full respect. They have great achievements in both scientific and cultural fields.
 
anikrc1 said:
As I said, if you mentioned Iran as an Islamic country they have my full respect. They have great achievements in both scientific and cultural fields.
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So, are you suggesting that the rest of the Middle East lacks culture?

What exactly is your point?

Please avoid ambiguous replies that do not make sense within the context of this discussion. Either provide a counter-argument or leave it alone.

Are we going to revert to the argument that Pakistanis lack their own identity simply because they are no longer Hindus?
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
'Modi shivering after Muslims kicked out Sheikh Hasina': Subramanian Swamy :inti

https://twitter.com/x/status/1820745328548630747
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Here's what he said before : Modi's contribution to Hindutva zero: Subramanian Swamy

:inti:D

Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s contribution to Hindutva is zero, said economist and political leader Subramanian Swamy, claiming Modi had opposed the Ram Mandir till the very end. Speaking during a session titled ‘The Global High Table: Can India Be A Vishwaguru’ at the ThinkEdu Conclave in Chennai on Friday, Swamy said, “He [Modi] opposed the Ram Mandir till the end. He got his friend S Gurumurthy to submit a petition at the SC while the trial was underway regarding the building of the Ram Temple. The PM wanted the land, allocated for building the temple, to be returned. The SC rejected the petition. During former PM Narasimha Rao’s tenure the land was nationalised.”

Stating he didn’t have any personal differences with Modi, Swamy said he was against the PM’s policies on China and economic policies. On the concept of Vishwaguru, he said India can become a Vishwaguru only when it gives a military response to China on the border issues. He said intelligence is required to become a vishwaguru. He said, “Gurus, sadhus and sanyasis devised six different types of intelligence.” The six types are cognitive, emotional, social, moral, spiritual and environmental.
Swamy said India was ahead of other countries centuries before they formulated modern technologies. “There was a manuscript I’ve seen called Vimana shastra. And I was surprised to see it. They are describing how to fly, build a plane, and what fuel they’re suggesting. Mercury. So I asked a scientist if Mercury can be fuel for an airplane in the future? He said it’s a long time in the future, but it is something that is being studied...you will find in all these other areas also, we will be able to attract the whole world and a large country like ours becoming a Vishwaguru is something that is very much within our reach.”

Source : New India Express
www.newindianexpress.com

Modi’s contribution to Hindutva zero: Subramanian Swamy

CHENNAI: Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s contribution to Hindutva is zero, said economist and political leader Subramanian Swamy, claiming Modi had opposed the R
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HalBass9 said:
So, are you suggesting that the rest of the Middle East lacks culture?

What exactly is your point?

Please avoid ambiguous replies that do not make sense within the context of this discussion. Either provide a counter-argument or leave it alone.

Are we going to revert to the argument that Pakistanis lack their own identity simply because they are no longer Hindus?
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I am saying the rest of the middle east is heavily dependent on oil money, and haven't developed their human capital as much. I thought that was clear.
 
FearlessRoar said:
I suggest you to reconsider your views about India , India has not even achieved one global sustainable goals
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India achivement is what Bangladesh and Pakistan combined won't achieve in next 25 year.

Yes bangladesh and Pakistan achieved some great things as follow -

1) Both country are now cell out to USA as they did the coup in both counties recently.

2) Both countries army is controlled the nation but at the same time they do what the master USA want to them .

3) both countries are crushing minorities
 
Devadwal said:
@anikrc1 this is Mullah Raj
Today afternoon, Islamists abducted a minor Hindu girl in broad daylight in bangladesh .

Yes everything is fine saar .this is indian propaganda right?



https://twitter.com/x/status/1821575332723630142
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Was an "isolated" incident. Didnt you know that ??
Ban is staring down the bottom of the barrel. In danger of becoming another failed Islamic state that is danger of becoming another Pak or Afg.
 
Stewie said:
thank you for that. I never said you did. But the reason I went down this path was because of @Romali_rotti's post which clearly implied that. This whole line of argument was around his implication, not yours. I think this ridiculous to drag difference in faith into this debate, is what I am contending. That's all.
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I think faith does have something to do with it. Just not any specific faith. Too much faith and religion in a country impedes not only scientific progress but progress in general. That's what the Hindutva types have to realise before claiming any special status for Hinduism.
 
Devadwal said:
India achivement is what Bangladesh and Pakistan combined won't achieve in next 25 year.

Yes bangladesh and Pakistan achieved some great things as follow -

1) Both country are now cell out to USA as they did the coup in both counties recently.

2) Both countries army is controlled the nation but at the same time they do what the master USA want to them .

3) both countries are crushing minorities
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read again what i was talking about
 
Devadwal said:
@anikrc1 this is Mullah Raj
Today afternoon, Islamists abducted a minor Hindu girl in broad daylight in bangladesh .

Yes everything is fine saar .this is indian propaganda right?



https://twitter.com/x/status/1821575332723630142
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Umm, that's a positive information if any,
? The Bangladesh army quickly rescued her and detained the accused? What did you expect? That Bangladesh becomes free of Abusers? Sorry to say, such an utopia doesn't exist in this world.
 
deltexas said:
Was an "isolated" incident. Didnt you know that ??
Ban is staring down the bottom of the barrel. In danger of becoming another failed Islamic state that is danger of becoming another Pak or Afg.
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Oh yes I forget about isolated incidents is another name of supporting islamist .

My apology.
 
anikrc1 said:
Umm, that's a positive information if any,
? The Bangladesh army quickly rescued her and detained the accused? What did you expect? That Bangladesh becomes free of Abusers? Sorry to say, such an utopia doesn't exist in this world.
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So you don't find anything wrong ??

Islamists are openly kidnapping Hindu girl in a brod day light and no one has to stopped them .
 
Has the west and China issued any statement on the plight of innocent pitiful hopeless Hindus in BD, how about Putin or Kim Jong from N Korea.

Surely the foreign policy of Modi G needs to show its color
 
Kianig89 said:
Has the west and China issued any statement on the plight of innocent pitiful hopeless Hindus in BD, how about Putin or Kim Jong from N Korea.

Surely the foreign policy of Modi G needs to show its color
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Why would west release the statement when they are architecture of this coup.

Never expect anything from china either .

Russian is busy with war.
 
Devadwal said:
So you don't find anything wrong ??

Islamists are openly kidnapping Hindu girl in a brod day light and no one has to stopped them .
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OK, there are Islamic extremists in Bangladesh. Yes they commit Atrocities and heinous acts against Hindus. I have never denied that? But the protectors of law did their job efficiently. Look atrocities against women happen everywhere. If you expected Bangladesh to suddenly become heaven for everyone, then that's different.
 
anikrc1 said:
OK, there are Islamic extremists in Bangladesh. Yes they commit Atrocities and heinous acts against Hindus. I have never denied that? But the protectors of law did their job efficiently. Look atrocities against women happen everywhere. If you expected Bangladesh to suddenly become heaven for everyone, then that's different.
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If proctorers of law did their job rightly then this incidents would have not happened .

Stop defending this genocide of Hindus by islamist goons. Theses are not isolated incidents but happening in entire Bangladesh.
 
Red-Indian said:
I think faith does have something to do with it. Just not any specific faith. Too much faith and religion in a country impedes not only scientific progress but progress in general. That's what the Hindutva types have to realise before claiming any special status for Hinduism.
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I will respectfully disagree. I think the role of faith should be totally divorced from scientific progress and in progress in general, it can actually play a part. It all depends on how you apply it.

but more importantly my point was not even that. My point was whether there was one majority faith or another, does not have any impact on a nations growth. So you cannot say this country is majority Hindu or majority Muslim so its doing better than a say majority Buddhist nation (example).
 
@Red-Indian and I will actually explain why I believe what I mentioned in the previous post. Muslims are supposed to follow the Prophet Muhammad PBUH and model their lives after him and every action and word of his is a staple of our faith. He said "ILM HAASIL KARO CHAHEY CHEEN JANA PAREY" which means "go and learn even if you have to travel to China"

So the philosophy and the foundation for scientific and other advancement is laid. If the modern Muslim has weak faith or is blind to it, that's not the faith's doing. The faith actually compels you to move forward and upward.

Hope that makes sense.
 
Entire world has chosen not to speak about the ongoing hindu genocide in Bangladesh.

No wonder our Hindu brothers from India are so concerned because how else are the blood thirsty mullahs going to stop their crimes.

Global leaders must not remain silent because 'silence is conformity'
 
Stewie said:
I will respectfully disagree. I think the role of faith should be totally divorced from scientific progress and in progress in general, it can actually play a part. It all depends on how you apply it.

but more importantly my point was not even that. My point was whether there was one majority faith or another, does not have any impact on a nations growth. So you cannot say this country is majority Hindu or majority Muslim so its doing better than a say majority Buddhist nation (example).
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Vehemently disagree with the first.

Agree with the second.
 
Stewie said:
@Red-Indian and I will actually explain why I believe what I mentioned in the previous post. Muslims are supposed to follow the Prophet Muhammad PBUH and model their lives after him and every action and word of his is a staple of our faith. He said "ILM HAASIL KARO CHAHEY CHEEN JANA PAREY" which means "go and learn even if you have to travel to China"

So the philosophy and the foundation for scientific and other advancement is laid. If the modern Muslim has weak faith or is blind to it, that's not the faith's doing. The faith actually compels you to move forward and upward.

Hope that makes sense.
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Don't give me theory. The fact that in the modern world has been able to combine fervent faith with commitment to science gives me enough sample size to say it can't be done. If it helps you, we can just agree that us imperfect humans are just incapable of following these perfect faiths.
 
Red-Indian said:
Don't give me theory. The fact that in the modern world has been able to combine fervent faith with commitment to science gives me enough sample size to say it can't be done. If it helps you, we can just agree that us imperfect humans are just incapable of following these perfect faiths.
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I think you meant to say “has not been able”.
I think we may be confusing the point. I have already said in some areas you cannot involve faith. What I mean to say is that you can have strong faith and be a religious person as well as contribute to the progress and advancement in scientific and other fields.


I have seen high accomplished and educated men and women who were staunch people of faith. But it’s folly to think this means that for every research paper written there should be a mandatory section on the topic and religious implications for it to be successful.
hope that made sense
 
Devadwal said:
If proctorers of law did their job rightly then this incidents would have not happened .

Stop defending this genocide of Hindus by islamist goons. Theses are not isolated incidents but happening in entire Bangladesh.
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Look, I have tried to explain my point again and again. But I don't think I am going anywhere with you. Still, I will try to make my point one last time. The immediate aftermath of revolution in a country is a particular vulnerable time. The dark forces of the society becomes active and tries to take advantage of the lawless times. This has happened after every revolution almost. If after the government is formed and country achieves some form stability Bangladesh still continues showing these same tendencies, hell if things doesn't become better for minorities even compared to Hasina's time, I will agree with you that the revolution has been a failure, and will join you in condemning Bangladesh.
 
anikrc1 said:
Look, I have tried to explain my point again and again. But I don't think I am going anywhere with you. Still, I will try to make my point one last time. The immediate aftermath of revolution in a country is a particular vulnerable time. The dark forces of the society becomes active and tries to take advantage of the lawless times. This has happened after every revolution almost. If after the government is formed and country achieves some form stability Bangladesh still continues showing these same tendencies, hell if things doesn't become better for minorities even compared to Hasina's time, I will agree with you that the revolution has been a failure, and will join you in condemning Bangladesh.
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This is pre plan attack against one particular society.

This is just not happening in few city or village but all accross bangladesh .

There are choosing to only attack hindu people's ,mandir .

This is all excuse that new goverment is forming so this is happening .
 
Devadwal said:
@anikrc1 this is Mullah Raj
Today afternoon, Islamists abducted a minor Hindu girl in broad daylight in bangladesh .

Yes everything is fine saar .this is indian propaganda right?



https://twitter.com/x/status/1821575332723630142
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@Devadwal I just researched this case. The abductors was led by the girl's ex=husband who is a drug=addict. He has tried to do the same before, and tried to take advantage of the current lawlessness. This is not at all a communal incident. That's why I warned you about trusting media on everything.
 
Rajdeep said:
Lion roared...expect Bangla to fall in line now. As they say, minnows will be minnows. Its like Rubel Hossain was trying to act tough until Virat Kohli intervened.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1821574094195769549
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Mr. Modi this is a hindu genocide. Need to condemn this directly and appeal to the global powers to intervene because it seems you can't do it on your own.

Stop making token tweets and act please
 
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