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PM Imran Khan not satisfied with Pakistan team selection ahead of the 2019 World Cup

He doesn't know anything about the current state of pak cricket. U should stop mixing politics and cricket. How can we copy Aus? According to Rashid Latif, they're trynna copy us. Aus has a much lower population than ours so 6 teams are doable not for us.

Australia isn't even a top side anymore.

India is a top side and look at the number of first class teams it has. Even England has high number of counties.

Imran khan has just made this perception and thats it. Australia and PAkistan are two different countries with difference in population.

Australia has less cricketers, Pakistan has alot.

Imran says that if we reduce teams than only the best will play in those less teams. He is right, however, lets not forget that at domestic level, guys like IMran Farhat, umar akmal, Ahmed Shezad are the best, and they will take up the spots. Those guys might not be good at inernational, but they are the beast in domestic, and no regional team would think of dropping them.

Even in the Australia set up, Micheal Klinger, Callum Ferguson and Marcus North have held there spots.
 
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Australia isn't even a top side anymore.

India is a top side and look at the number of first class teams it has. Even England has high number of counties.

Imran khan has just made this perception and thats it. Australia and PAkistan are two different countries with difference in population.

Australia has less cricketers, Pakistan has alot.

Imran says that if we reduce teams than only the best will play in those less teams. He is right, however, lets not forget that at domestic level, guys like IMran Farhat, umar akmal, Ahmed Shezad are the best, and they will take up the spots. Those guys might not be good at inernational, but they are the beast in domestic, and no regional team would think of dropping them.

Even in the Australia set up, Micheal Klinger, Callum Ferguson and Marcus North have held there spots.

The last two paragraphs are VERY true. Just look at Khurram Manzoor's record in domestic cricket and compare that to his international. They're miles apart.
 
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they did picked Asghar. Now you cant force him to be played.


Imran mendling in PSL will create problems. Imran is an 80s cricketer, he does not understand the cricket of today. Franchise cricket operates very very very differently.

Its like going into the NHl and critisizing the a franchise for not having a local player.

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Do you really believe you know more than IK?

On topic, he makes some good points. I think Inzy will be out of a job after the world cup unless Pakistan wins it.
 
patron chief is just a dramaybaazi post thats it. Its only made just to select the chairman.

There is a difference between being a cricket admin and a player.

Did you ever bothered to reflect on your assertions how stupid they are?
 
This is when the deal regarding Yasir Shah being picked for Australia ODIs was agreed.
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Do you really believe you know more than IK?

On topic, he makes some good points. I think Inzy will be out of a job after the world cup unless Pakistan wins it.

The guy " who knows cricket more than IK " must be a retired major, what you expect from him ?
 
Imran should be minding his own business. Concentrate on the country.

Yes hes an ex player, but there is the pcb chairman that is there to do his work.

Imran might had been a legend, but he sucks as a cricket admin. I have read his views and they make no sense.

1. Regarding this series, i think it has already been stated that these are just trial matches for the bench strength, so obviously we will lose these matches as only a few players will perform.

2. He even gave views regarding domestic cricket, PAkistan FC cricket cannot be limited to 6 teams. AUstralia and Pakistan cricket are not the same its different. Even UK has more teams, also iNdia aswell.

I dont understand the logic of imran copying Australia. There population is not the same either. Pakistan has alot of cricketers, thus more teams are needed.

FInishing department and bringing in cities only is a big risk. Players lose there job. Regions dont provide jobs.
And some departments have invested and build teams from very long time. Teams like HBL, KRL, WAPDA and the MIGHTY SNGPL have build very strong teams over the years, andfinishing them off would be a terrible decision.

Solution is simple, run 2 leagues, making department as grade 2.

However, regional cricket in Pakistan is full of club politics, and Waseem Khan knows better.

Imran should mind his own business, Waseem Khan and EHsan mani are there. I read Waseem Khan's interview and the guy knows what he is doing. he pointed our the club politics, thus, he will come up with the best solution.

TBH it is you who should mind his own business. Imran Khan is a legend of the country, it is Ehsan Mani and the PCB which approached him and requested him for time.

Pakistan has tried the Departmental Cricket route for 70 years now and it is no longer producing cricketers anymore. Our Cricket needs to move on with the times
 
In principal I agree with him. In practicality, we're a nation of 200+ million, Aussie's 30 or so million. We need more that 6 FC teams with proper coaching structures. The reason IMO is two fold. 1) to provide a pathway for aspiring cricketers to play at the highest national level as an actual viable 5-15 year career. Not everyone is going to get picked for national team. 2) Just based on sheer population size, we're bound to have enough talent to field 12 teams. Allows more parts of the country to host a team. I've said this before, but again, we have about 12 stadiums that can be decent FC facilities with some facelifts, with teams housed there year round.

Take this ridiculous Pakistan Cup. Over 10 days or so. If you have the 5 teams actually play a proper month long tournament with time for training, we would see higher return on investment. Could easily spread the tourney out so that Punjab (Lahore), Sindh (Karachi), Balochistan (Quetta), KPK (Peshwar), Federals (Rawalpindi) could play home and away matches. Actually market it, and have cheap entry. We'd likely see a decent product. PCB HAS to put money into proper structural reform or we will always have this revolving door at every position.
 
Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) Patron Imran Khan, the Pakistan Prime Minister, has struck down the board’s new proposed domestic cricket structure, insisting that departments should have no role in the game. The PM chaired a meeting attended by PCB Chairman Ehsan Mani, IPC Secretary Akbar Durrani, and other officials. The PCB put together a model in which department teams such as HBL, WAPDA and PIA would remain relevant stakeholders alongside regional sides — although initially even the PCB had decided to strip departments of their playing rights. But this idea was knocked down by Imran, who does not want departments in the system in any capacity. He has instead directed the PCB to rework the structure to include just six provincial teams — two from Punjab, and one each from Sindh, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Baluchistan and Gilgit-Baltistan.

Imran was a strong advocate of a domestic structure with only regional sides for much of his playing career, enamoured especially by the Australian Shield Cricket structure. There are many now — as there were then — who believe such a model will work in Pakistan, where the population is nearly nine times that of Australia. The Prime Minister believes that the sizeable talent in the country must not be allowed to go to waste, with it being the PCB’s responsibility to provide a conducive environment for that talent to flourish. He was also concerned about the exodus of cricket talent over the years.

With all this in mind, a PCB task team worked out a plan to reduce the number of regional teams in the system, but also kept the departments alive, making them sponsor of the regional teams and in effect, giving them a significant role in the domestic circuit. A presentation on the new model was prepared by Haroon Rasheed, the PCB’s director of domestic cricket. A team of PCB officials then called on Imran for a briefing. While the model came close to what Imran had asked for, the role of the departments in any capacity was instantly ruled out. The proposal was based on a structure that included eight regional teams, either from a city or from a province, while the various departments like HBL, WAPDA and PIA — long the backbone of Pakistan’s domestic cricket — were constituted to finance each region. The idea behind this proposal was to make each region self-sufficient, with funding from both the PCB as well as the departments. There are currently 16 teams on the domestic circuit playing in the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy — eight from the regions and eight departments. The new model aimed to cut down the number of top-tier teams to just eight, with only the regional sides allowed to play first-class cricket.

https://dailytimes.com.pk/370476/imran-strikes-down-pcbs-new-domestic-cricket-structure-proposal/
 
This six team is just a bad idea. The difference in population of Australia and Pakistan is massive, our only popular sport is cricket and they play dozens of other sports. His idea that people will start supporting regional team but when you see the crowd for national T20 cup then you get to know the harsh reality.

India have argubaly the most successful team in this decade yet they have so many regional teams. His solution doesn't provide real solution of grass root level cricket, setting up a network of academy system to nurture talent, financial model to improve cricket infrastructure in 1st,2nd and 3rd tier cities, money needed to have a proper development squad like England lions and India A and improving level of coaching being given at junior level.


Less team--->more quality-->Pakistan will become a superpower in cricket is one dimensional thinking.
 
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Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) Patron Imran Khan, the Pakistan Prime Minister, has struck down the board’s new proposed domestic cricket structure, insisting that departments should have no role in the game. The PM chaired a meeting attended by PCB Chairman Ehsan Mani, IPC Secretary Akbar Durrani, and other officials. The PCB put together a model in which department teams such as HBL, WAPDA and PIA would remain relevant stakeholders alongside regional sides — although initially even the PCB had decided to strip departments of their playing rights. But this idea was knocked down by Imran, who does not want departments in the system in any capacity. He has instead directed the PCB to rework the structure to include just six provincial teams — two from Punjab, and one each from Sindh, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Baluchistan and Gilgit-Baltistan.

Imran was a strong advocate of a domestic structure with only regional sides for much of his playing career, enamoured especially by the Australian Shield Cricket structure. There are many now — as there were then — who believe such a model will work in Pakistan, where the population is nearly nine times that of Australia. The Prime Minister believes that the sizeable talent in the country must not be allowed to go to waste, with it being the PCB’s responsibility to provide a conducive environment for that talent to flourish. He was also concerned about the exodus of cricket talent over the years.

With all this in mind, a PCB task team worked out a plan to reduce the number of regional teams in the system, but also kept the departments alive, making them sponsor of the regional teams and in effect, giving them a significant role in the domestic circuit. A presentation on the new model was prepared by Haroon Rasheed, the PCB’s director of domestic cricket. A team of PCB officials then called on Imran for a briefing. While the model came close to what Imran had asked for, the role of the departments in any capacity was instantly ruled out. The proposal was based on a structure that included eight regional teams, either from a city or from a province, while the various departments like HBL, WAPDA and PIA — long the backbone of Pakistan’s domestic cricket — were constituted to finance each region. The idea behind this proposal was to make each region self-sufficient, with funding from both the PCB as well as the departments. There are currently 16 teams on the domestic circuit playing in the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy — eight from the regions and eight departments. The new model aimed to cut down the number of top-tier teams to just eight, with only the regional sides allowed to play first-class cricket.

https://dailytimes.com.pk/370476/imran-strikes-down-pcbs-new-domestic-cricket-structure-proposal/

Pakistan has tried every other structure known to mankind and we are languishing mid-to-bottom table for a long time.

Imran's proposal of a complete revamp makes sense to me.

PSL has shown there is support for regional teams, even when they are only six. Because product is worthwhile for both consumers and sponsors.

There may be a way to get companies to to sponsor domestic cricket as well - as long as the product is attractive - both in the stadiums and on TV. Lots of entertainment, crowd involvement etc.

Companies can also get involved at grass roots - for example biscuit companies sponsoring school tournaments, sports companies sponsoring club tournaments etc.

This way, money will flow to cricketers and keep interest alive in the sport many different ways.
 
I think Imran should stick to politics.

He has his own cricket legacy and it will be tarnished if he tries to meddle in cricket.

Not everyone who is a legend of the game will have a cricketing acumen.

Wasim just flicks his wrist and it swings miles for him, but not for any bowler so no matter what Wasim has tried, he hasn't been able to create a left armer like him.

Imran cannot create any leader like himself nor can he create gold out of rotten wood.
 
ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Imran Khan has directed the task force on domestic cricket to make a policy for introducing a six-team first-class format aimed at raising the standard of the game.

PM Imran here on Wednesday held a meeting with the task force on bringing improvement in Pakistan cricket.

The meeting was attended by Inter-provincial Coordination secretary Akbar Durrani, Pakistan Cricket Board chairman Ehsan Mani, retired Lt Gen Muzammil Hussain, Waseem Gulzar Khan, Subhan Ahmed, Mudassar Nazar and Haroon Rashid.

According to a brief press release issued on the meeting, “The meeting reviewed various steps about the present situation of cricket in the country, its administrative structure and the steps taken to highlight local talent in this regard.”

Sources said the prime minister rejected the idea of having a large number of teams including departments in first-class cricket while emphasising that ideally there should be six first-class teams, one each from Sindh, Balochistan, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Federal Areas and two from Punjab.

According to sources, the prime minister directed the task force to finalise a policy on domestic cricket and share it with him again in the next meeting, after which a final decision will be made about the structure of domestic game.

It is relevant to note here that before becoming the prime minister, Imran over the years had pointed out several flaws in Pakistan’s domestic cricket. During his opposition days, he had publicly stated that domestic cricket structure was very poor lacking competitiveness, and therefore needed to be overhauled.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1472282/p...o-devise-policy-for-six-team-domestic-circuit
 
It will be the biggesr disaster that will happen to Pakistan cricket. I'm a supporter of regional teams but should be more teams than this. Simply can not copy model of Auatralia cricket.

How can country with over 220 million people have six teams? Its madness. So many youngsters missing out in Pakistan Cup or PSL. There is so much corruption in selecting national team so imagine province teams being picked. People with no reference will be left out

Zafar Gohar got left out in Pakistan cup and Tauseef's son got selected. It's only one example for you guys. Imran was once the biggest gift to Pakistan cricket but now he poses a danger to Pakistan cricket. He is hell bent on destroying it. Why can't he listen to others? Sachin a great cricketer, also came up with absurd idea of split innings in ODI.
 
All the players should simply refuse to play in this new system.

India is successful despite having 37 domestic teams. England has 18 teams

Lets copy Australia model ;)
 
People here think people will start flocking to stadium to support regional teams :)).

No one watches national T20(apart from final) and Pakistan cup in the stadium. Fans will go to watch first class matches loool
 
Right decision 6 teams is perfect you would be able to have 100-120 top players represent these teams. What needs more work is proper selection on merit to ensure good prospects are not missed out. Each team should also have a second division team from which players move up to the first class teams.

Key thing is we need to be able to work with the corporate first class teams as potential sponsors and with fewer regional teams we should aim to bump up player salaries and match fees. Broadcast matches nationally and work on better schedules.
 
Alot of guys on this thread are against this idea solely because they claim we have a larger population with more players, well I can confidently say 90% of your current domestic are not good enough
 
As long as PCB selects players both young and middle aged based on merit and performances its good enough. What the point of having 16 teams having full of rubbish players with few good players who don't even get proper opportunities.
Not a bad idea to introduce 7th team in the name of "Nepotism and glorified TTF" and play with 6 teams based on talents and performances.
 
Rather than having a B team for each of the 6 regions it could be worth adding 6 more teams, which would play in a second division where top 2 teams get promoted to the top division and the bottom 2 in division 1 relegated down. Only thing is players can not and should not be allowed to switch teams after relegation to move around into division 1. The competition would be good and this supports what Imran wants and some what also helps those that are worried not enough player spots are open. I would also want all national players to take part in both the 50 over and 4 day formats to see where they stand in comparison t other players to evaluate the selection.
 
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Do you really believe you know more than IK?

On topic, he makes some good points. I think Inzy will be out of a job after the world cup unless Pakistan wins it.

So just because Imran has played cricekt, that also means he automatically qualifies to be a match referee and an umpire.

Please do bother to read his views to even understand what he has said.

Hes not your messiah that whatever he says or does is right.
 
TBH it is you who should mind his own business. Imran Khan is a legend of the country, it is Ehsan Mani and the PCB which approached him and requested him for time.

Pakistan has tried the Departmental Cricket route for 70 years now and it is no longer producing cricketers anymore. Our Cricket needs to move on with the times

There is a difference between a player and an admin.


Just because your a legend doesnt mean you could do every cricket related task.

Might aswell ask Imran to file the PCB taxes, because hey hes a Pakistani cricket Legend and he knows better then the admin :facepalm:
 
All the players should simply refuse to play in this new system.

India is successful despite having 37 domestic teams. England has 18 teams

Lets copy Australia model ;)

Agreed.

IK seems to be unaware of the realities of how PCB works. The 6 teams will be occupied by already established TTF SENIORS. They're already in departments!!!


Kami
Umar Gul
Butt
Anwar Ali

...............This kind of people will be filling up that limited number of SIX teams only.

How will youngsters get a chance?!
 
All the players should simply refuse to play in this new system.

India is successful despite having 37 domestic teams. England has 18 teams

Lets copy Australia model ;)

This!

PLayers should stage a protest against this, peopl here dont understand logic.

They think whatever Imran says is just right.

imran himself hasn't even played that much firstclass cricket to understand the problems existing in administration.

Australia and Pakistans cricekt populaton is different.

Even if these guys want to go for 6 teams, fine, but will PCB's teams at Grade 2 be willing to pay the same salaries that were being paid at first class level by departments?
No they wont, because regions dont even make any money.

The reason why departsments are involved is they get tax cuts for making sports teams for first class level.

Regions cant be made into brands. PSL is a complete different story. People watch the t20 brand.

Who the hell in Pakistan will want to watch a first class match?
 
Agreed.

IK seems to be unaware of the realities of how PCB works. The 6 teams will be occupied by already established TTF SENIORS. They're already in departments!!!


Kami
Umar Gul
Butt
Anwar Ali

...............This kind of people will be filling up that limited number of SIX teams only.

How will youngsters get a chance?!

THis!

And the regional teams will be justified in doing this.

Guys like Kami, Farhat, Anwar ali, they are top performers. ANd a regional team that wants to win will obviously play top domestic performers to win.

Imran just have a theory that makes no sense.

Even the English Cricket board has more First Class teams.
 
It will be the biggesr disaster that will happen to Pakistan cricket. I'm a supporter of regional teams but should be more teams than this. Simply can not copy model of Auatralia cricket.

How can country with over 220 million people have six teams? Its madness. So many youngsters missing out in Pakistan Cup or PSL. There is so much corruption in selecting national team so imagine province teams being picked. People with no reference will be left out

Zafar Gohar got left out in Pakistan cup and Tauseef's son got selected. It's only one example for you guys. Imran was once the biggest gift to Pakistan cricket but now he poses a danger to Pakistan cricket. He is hell bent on destroying it. Why can't he listen to others? Sachin a great cricketer, also came up with absurd idea of split innings in ODI.

Completely agree. Imran is becoming dangerous for our cricket, former cricketers and current cricketers must unite and oppose him with force. His ridiculous suggestions should be rejected straightway .

Bringing merit in team's selection should be his only aim, leave domestic cricket issues on others. Our biggest problem right now is lack of merit in team selection
 
PM directs PCB to adopt Australian domestic cricket structure

ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister of Pakistan and Patron-in-Chief of the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB), Imran Khan has rejected the new domestic plan proposed by the PCB and directed to adopt Australian domestic cricket structure.

PM held a meeting with the delegation of PCB including its Chairman Ehsan Mani, MD Waseem Khan, COO Subhan Ahmed, Director Cricket Operations Domestic Haroon Rasheed, IPC Secretary Akbar Durrani, Deputy Secretary Fayaz-ul-Haq and others.

The proposal was prepared by Haroon Rasheed on cricket affairs in which PCB put together a model in which department teams would remain relevant stakeholders alongside regional sides. But the idea was turned down by PM.

https://natcour.com/story/244946/pm-directs-pcb-to-adopt-australian-domestic-cricket-structure/
 
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Do you really believe you know more than IK?

On topic, he makes some good points. I think Inzy will be out of a job after the world cup unless Pakistan wins it.

These people probably never got selected for their gully teams but apparently they more about cricket than Imran Khan who was a world cup winning captain.



Some people really overestimate their importance.
 
These people probably never got selected for their gully teams but apparently they more about cricket than Imran Khan who was a world cup winning captain.



Some people really overestimate their importance.

Cool story.

So, pushing for Younis and Yasir in ODIs is being a visionary.

And, reducing domestic teams to 6 in a country of 200 million is again being a genius. Do you even have any idea how many senior TTFs occupy the spots in the number of teams we already have? Barely youngsters get a chance.

Have some guts and reply to these points. Do you agree with them?
 
PCB should try to convince IK for atleast 10 regional teams and the model to be followed is PSL. But completely agreed with IK ideas.
 
Cool story.

So, pushing for Younis and Yasir in ODIs is being a visionary.

And, reducing domestic teams to 6 in a country of 200 million is again being a genius. Do you even have any idea how many senior TTFs occupy the spots in the number of teams we already have? Barely youngsters get a chance.

Have some guts and reply to these points. Do you agree with them?

First of all drop this logic of having guts of replying or not. I only reply when I like it. Understand?



Secondly, you are using the benefit of hindsight to judge IK. At the time when IK suggested YK as opener/1 down he was the best test bat in the country and Pak had severe lack of a proper number three in ODIs. Keep in mind this is the time of Shehzads, Akmals and Maqsoods. Similarly Yasir Shah was spectacular in tests and any sane person would have recommended his selection. In hindsight it turned out that both are garbage in LOI and you are using that knowledge to bash IK. In the same vein IK picked Wasim, Waqar and Inzi from out of no where and they are the greatest legends of our history.


So please like I said do not overestimate your auqaat. You are just an anonymous poster on an online forum that is a diehard Akmal fan lmao..... While IK has 40 years of cricketing experience and is a WC winning captain.
 
would you like some fries with that masala/I]news? :yk

Exactly which WC Team is Imran khan unhappy with? What is Pakistan's squad for the WC?

Based on video earlier in the thread it sounds like IK said the team should be picked on merit and the team should be fully prepared for the WC.

In typical cheap Indo-Pak media style to spin that into "IK is not happy with the WC team" and get all the PP-experts doing bhangra is looking for cheap hits at its best by news outlets such as ARY.

IK: The WC team should be picked on merit and should be fully prepared for the WC

Pakistani media outlets: IK is not happy with the WC squad........even though the squad has not been selected yet

PP-Keyboard Warriors: :120::gayle
 
First of all drop this logic of having guts of replying or not. I only reply when I like it. Understand?



Secondly, you are using the benefit of hindsight to judge IK. At the time when IK suggested YK as opener/1 down he was the best test bat in the country and Pak had severe lack of a proper number three in ODIs. Keep in mind this is the time of Shehzads, Akmals and Maqsoods. Similarly Yasir Shah was spectacular in tests and any sane person would have recommended his selection. In hindsight it turned out that both are garbage in LOI and you are using that knowledge to bash IK. In the same vein IK picked Wasim, Waqar and Inzi from out of no where and they are the greatest legends of our history.


So please like I said do not overestimate your auqaat. You are just an anonymous poster on an online forum that is a diehard Akmal fan lmao..... While IK has 40 years of cricketing experience and is a WC winning captain.

Lets close this forum as well becauss we all aren't professional cricketerers. We are nobodies to comment on it? We invest our time and money supporting our team for no reason. Btw why do you criticize inzi? Do you know cricket more than him?
 
Its just not us

Many former cricketers oppose this idea as well.
 
[MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION]

Hindsight? :)))

Imran pushed for YK selection at the 2015 world cup and every person with a remote understanding of today's cricket strongly opposed Younis in ODIs at that time. So did I.

Yasir Shah has been trash in ODIs since his start, everyone with some cricket iq is opposing his LOI his selection since a few years now.

Imran pushed for his selection in this Australia series. Me and others are opposing it since a long time.

How is this hindsight , or you don't know its meaning?

Just because ik is wrong why do you keep blindly supporting him even on wrong decisions?

What he did in the 80s is NOT RELEVANT TODAY. He can't take decisions regarding today's cricket or cricketers. How is that so hard to understand and accept without feeling as if it's an insult?

Sure, cricket legend, but no understanding of today's cricket or cricketers.
 
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[MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION]

Hindsight? :)))

Imran pushed for YK selection at the 2015 world cup and every person with a remote understanding of today's cricket strongly opposed Younis in ODIs at that time. So did I.

Yasir Shah has been trash in ODIs since his start, everyone with some cricket iq is opposing his LOI his selection since a few years now.

Imran pushed for his selection in this Australia series. Me and others are opposing it since a long time.

How is this hindsight , or you don't know its meaning?

Just because ik is wrong why do you keep blindly supporting him even on wrong decisions?

What he did in the 80s is NOT RELEVANT TODAY. He can't take decisions regarding today's cricket or cricketers. How is that so hard to understand and accept without feeling as if it's an insult?

Sure, cricket legend, but no understanding of today's cricket or cricketers.

Looking at performances in world cup 2015. Younis most certainly would have added some backbone to our batting and we could have scored some more runs. Are you basing Yasir Shah inclusion based on pictures with Imran Khan? Imran probably has pictures like those with many players it does not mean he ordered for their inclusion s
 
The solution is simple:

Have a division system.
Example Sindh greens and Sindh whites.

One team plays in higher division and the the other in the second. That way you can accommodate all the talent. Performance based pay and selection. Only players get promoted by teams. Have individual departments sponsor regional teams so they are involved as well, but the running of the team is with the provincial cricketing bodies.
 
IKs comments will be the prompt that Inzi and Arthur need to let them know they are very poor in their roles. Unbelievable bad selections. Going back to failed players. Failure of giving new prospective batsmen any opportunity. PCB needs to develop a significant program for prospective batsmen with expert international level coaches. Only then can we see any difference. Otherwise we just follow the same practice of finding gully cricketers and propelling them into the national side.
 
I think we are making too much of resting some key players and trying new ones in the series against Australia. Yes I myself did not like why we are doing so so close to World Cup but the experience in UAE will overall have no bearing on the World Cup because it’s completely different conditions and we also wanted to give rest to some key players and protect against injuries so close to World Cup.

I might be in the minority here but more I think about it, I don’t think it was such a bad idea. Its just thst we lost the series and this doesn’t do good for overall morale of the team.
 
I think we are making too much of resting some key players and trying new ones in the series against Australia. Yes I myself did not like why we are doing so so close to World Cup but the experience in UAE will overall have no bearing on the World Cup because it’s completely different conditions and we also wanted to give rest to some key players and protect against injuries so close to World Cup.

I might be in the minority here but more I think about it, I don’t think it was such a bad idea. Its just thst we lost the series and this doesn’t do good for overall morale of the team.

There is no harm in resting definite starters and those with niggles but players chosen like Abbas and Yasir were not good decision to be tried. Install Musa and a good office should have been given opportunity. One of Musa or Husnain should be included on the squad to give it freshness.
 
There is no harm in resting definite starters and those with niggles but players chosen like Abbas and Yasir were not good decision to be tried. Install Musa and a good office should have been given opportunity. One of Musa or Husnain should be included on the squad to give it freshness.

Now that is a sensible post. It was perfectly justified that we rest our top players but the replacements chosen were not the smartest. Abbas and Yasir have no place in the ODI side while Amir should have also made way for a spinner.
 
First of all drop this logic of having guts of replying or not. I only reply when I like it. Understand?



Secondly, you are using the benefit of hindsight to judge IK. At the time when IK suggested YK as opener/1 down he was the best test bat in the country and Pak had severe lack of a proper number three in ODIs. Keep in mind this is the time of Shehzads, Akmals and Maqsoods. Similarly Yasir Shah was spectacular in tests and any sane person would have recommended his selection. In hindsight it turned out that both are garbage in LOI and you are using that knowledge to bash IK. In the same vein IK picked Wasim, Waqar and Inzi from out of no where and they are the greatest legends of our history.


So please like I said do not overestimate your auqaat. You are just an anonymous poster on an online forum that is a diehard Akmal fan lmao..... While IK has 40 years of cricketing experience and is a WC winning captain.

Inzi and Mickey know way more about cricket than you. Yet you cry about them all day.

Hypocrisy at its best.
 
He doesn't know anything about the current state of pak cricket. U should stop mixing politics and cricket. How can we copy Aus? According to Rashid Latif, they're trynna copy us. Aus has a much lower population than ours so 6 teams are doable not for us.

You didn't understand this post was sarcasm
 
PCB working on provincial-based domestic cricket model with six teams

LAHORE: After failing to convince the patron-in-chief of Pakistan Cricket Board, Prime Minister Imran Khan over the proposed model of domestic cricket structure which comprised eight regional teams at the top and as many regional sides in the Grade-II and with a sponsorship role for the departments, the PCB think-tank has decided to formulate a new model on provincial basis that will restrict the teams to six.

The PM had rejected the proposed draft when a delegation of the PCB met him in Islamabad last month comprising all top officials. Imran, in turn, had asked the delegation to come up with a draft comprising six teams at the first-class level.

Dawn learnt on authority that in order to implement the instructions given by the prime minister, a plan has been devised under which Punjab, Sindh, Balochistan, KP and Federal Areas cricket associations will be formed, thus ending the current set-up of 16 regional bodies. In the domestic cricket circuit — from U-16 to first-class cricket — six teams will be representing their respective provinces with Punjab fielding two teams in each tournament while other provinces will enter one team apiece. However, the associations at city level will continue to work to feed the players to the provincial teams and to play B-grade cricket.

“We are starting work on the new programme to base the domestic cricket on provincial level as per the instructions of the prime minister. The current affiliated departments of the PCB will be asked to sponsor the provincial associations and if they are not ready to do it, then the PCB will run it from its own sources,” a PCB official said.

The official, on condition of anonymity, told Dawn that soon the exercise to make the provincial base system will start and, in the first step, clubs across the country will be scrutinised. He said no bogus club will be allowed to function which had been existing in big numbers and were misusing the funds and precious time of the PCB. He ensured that very strict scrutiny process will commence soon.

“After completing the draft of the system — from club to provincial level — and after gaining the approval of the patron, an amendment in the PCB constitution will be sought to implement the new system in letter and spirit,” he said.

However, the official admitted that in the new system, the players currently representing the departments may lose their jobs but by appearing for their provincial teams they will get match fees.

He also admitted that match fees could not be the alternate of the monthly salaries which the cricketers were getting from their departments for representing their teams in the current domestic system, but they will get good money by representing the provincial teams.

It may be mentioned here that several former cricketers, who had earned handsome amounts of money by representing the departments and by holding key posts on sports basis in leading departments such as PIA, in banking industry and other organisations, are vehemently opposing the idea of abolishing the role of departmental cricket.

According to them, the departments are not only a big source for the cricketers to earn good money but also enjoy their game under a comfortable atmosphere which may not be available at regional or provincial levels.

It may be mentioned here that the provincial-based system had already been tested during the tenure of retired Lt Gen Tauqir Zia back in 2002 but it was not very successful.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1474233/p...l-based-domestic-cricket-model-with-six-teams
 
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Looks like Khan Shaheb is desperate to make identical clone of Aussie system. Not bad, but I think 6 might be too tight for a country of 23 crore and cricket being only major sports. They must strengthen the club cricket and a lower tier of at least 48 district/zonal teams (8 under each provincial teams), so that around 1000 players can be taken under national umbrella.

I am aware of the salary issues in Corporate system - if anything, corporate system should immediately be scrapped for only this reason - dads & grand dads are leaching on to corporate teams for easy money. PAK cricket should not be any charity that 50 years old will earn pension from cricket field.

They need to make sure that 6X20 = 120 players are awarded some sort of central contract by state side. May be in 4 tiers with bottom 30 earning at least $12,000 per year as fixed income; add to that match fees & insurences, benefits like medicine, kits and sponsorships, and a small pension plan - corporate salary won’t be required.
 
PCB taking too long to work on this - causing uncertainty amongst players and making them desperate
 
The point being missed is that Imran is not insisting only 6 teams should ever be allowed to play cricket, by all means have lower divisions and grassroots level of cricket feeding into the top , so at the top level of domestic cricket you want to have Quality and not Quantity.

If the cricket structure is set up in the right way, it will act as a filtering process to allow the best talent to rise to the top and giving you better standard of domestic cricket , with more competitive games and ultimately producing more accomplished players for Pakistan.

Sounds perfectly reasonable to me, regardless of population size.

At the end of the day whether you have India’s near billion population or Australia’s , at the top level for your national team only 11 players can play - and you want them to be the Best of the Best in your country, and fewer teams means the best have to push themselves even harder to make sure they make the batch.
 
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This will probably be implemented in the coming season, and should go on as long as Imran is P.M.
Ideally the PCB constitution will be amended to prevent future change.
 
This will probably be implemented in the coming season, and should go on as long as Imran is P.M.
Ideally the PCB constitution will be amended to prevent future change.

Changing/amending constitution might not protect such changes - next guy can find a way to change every thing, if it’s kept entirely at PCB’s hand. PAK domestics has changed is shape, size several times in last 6-7 decades.

For any such changes, to make it permanent, what is needed is financially binding it - find a sponsor for 25 years (say PAK Tobacco Company or PAK State Oil), and legally protect the structure, format, number of games, schedule etc. It’s the sponsor’s who’ll invest their money to build the brand (not only the tournament but also the 6 teams), and they’ll make sure that every 2 years it doesn’t swap between Punjab North to Sui North Gas to Lahore Lions.
 
Really love this new system. Imran khan is doing great to force these clowns into making the right structure. Now improve the pitches/equipment and we can start producing good players again.
 
The point being missed is that Imran is not insisting only 6 teams should ever be allowed to play cricket, by all means have lower divisions and grassroots level of cricket feeding into the top , so at the top level of domestic cricket you want to have Quality and not Quantity.

If the cricket structure is set up in the right way, it will act as a filtering process to allow the best talent to rise to the top and giving you better standard of domestic cricket , with more competitive games and ultimately producing more accomplished players for Pakistan.

Sounds perfectly reasonable to me, regardless of population size.

At the end of the day whether you have India’s near billion population or Australia’s , at the top level for your national team only 11 players can play - and you want them to be the Best of the Best in your country, and fewer teams means the best have to push themselves even harder to make sure they make the batch.

Well said, this is what I've been arguing for months.
Currently there's at least 2-3 strong FC teams including SNGPL and SSGC. However the rest are average leading to too many lopsided, uncompetitive games.

How are these games adequate preparation for the rigours of international cricket ?

Also let's be honest how many players currently in FC cricket should be on FC contracts ? If you're a specialist batsman averaging less than 30, or a bowler averaging above 40 then they shouldn't be playing FC cricket. By reducing the number of teams the higher the standard of competition can be.

Then below 6-8 FC teams you can have a much larger second tier of cricket.
 
My idea would be

Sindh two team-Urban Sindh( Karachi to Hyderabad) and Interior Sindh
Punjab three teams- South Punjab, Central Punjab and Potohar Punjab
KPK two teams-KPK hazara( all hazara district plus G&B, AJK and Islamabad) and KPK(minus all the hazara district)
Balochistan one team

Overall 8 teams

I think my idea is the best solution. It useless to have Federal areas or G&B as seperate teams, even Balochistan team would be of low quality if most of them are locals.
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My idea would be

Sindh two team-Urban Sindh( Karachi to Hyderabad) and Interior Sindh
Punjab three teams- South Punjab, Central Punjab and Potohar Punjab
KPK two teams-KPK hazara( all hazara district plus G&B, AJK and Islamabad) and KPK(minus all the hazara district)
Balochistan one team

Overall 8 teams

I think my idea is the best solution. It useless to have Federal areas or G&B as seperate teams, even Balochistan team would be of low quality if most of them are locals.
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I was for 8 teams, but 6 isn't bad if there is a wider 2nd tier (not necessarily FC status).

I think, the idea is about decentralization of cricket and participation of whole nation; for which it's extremely important to have a team representing B'tan. Initially, may be that team will be filled with mostly spill overs from Punjab, Sindh & KPK; but that's the only way cricket can develop there. Team won't be weak for sure - in every country, after top 10-12 standout players, there is a massive pool of 80-100 players with comparable skill sets, but only around 75-80 can be accommodated in other 5 teams - if the scouting and drafting are done properly with honesty & integrity, Baloch team will compete with every team almost equally. For example, there are at least 6 comparable SLAO spinner - Gohar, RHasan, Umer, Nawaz, Kashif, Asghar - instead of warming bench at North/South Punjab behind Gohar or Kashif, Asghar can move to B'tan & Raza can move to Federal Territory. Same apply's for WK, fast bowlers, batsmen - as long as selectors are not hypocrite, it's not a big deal.
 
Is Wasin Khan involved in developing the new system?
 
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