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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My letter to leaders of Muslim states to act collectively to counter the growing Islamophobia in non-Muslim states esp Western states causing increasing concern amongst Muslims the world over. <a href="https://t.co/OFuaKGu2c1">pic.twitter.com/OFuaKGu2c1</a></p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1321401079947558915?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Good on imran A collective effort is needed to stop the insults and stigmatisation of muslims
 
It will be interesting to see if more muslim nations come forward or not. My guess is a resounding No based on official reactions so far.
 
One can already feel the deafening silence from other Muslim states in response to this letter, but this will go down well with certain voters in Pakistan who feel offended by Macron's behaviour.
 
Buss yehi dramay karalo is say!

When you are a country that is known for its pathetic living standards, terrorism, lawlessness and hunger, nobody will take you seriously.

First, focus on your development, treat your minorities well, improve the living standard of your people then you can talk about all these issues and it will suit you too.

This is nothing but to earn a few brownie points from the right-wingers.
 
One can already feel the deafening silence from other Muslim states in response to this letter, but this will go down well with certain voters in Pakistan who feel offended by Macron's behaviour.

You said the same thing about letter to Facebook as well, in reality Facebook's head for India, Central and South Asia who was a raging Hindutva got fired. I don't know if Khan's letter had a part to play in it but she had been in the news for a bit due to her affiliation to BJP and Khan's letter might have been the final nail in the coffin.
 
Buss yehi dramay karalo is say!

When you are a country that is known for its pathetic living standards, terrorism, lawlessness and hunger, nobody will take you seriously.

First, focus on your development, treat your minorities well, improve the living standard of your people then you can talk about all these issues and it will suit you too.

This is nothing but to earn a few brownie points from the right-wingers.

Bura lag raha hai na yeh haqeeqat jan kar ke Nawaz Shreef ko likhna bhi nahin atta.
 
I can't see the 3 words - "Just Ignore Them" anywhere.
 
Sooner or later, one muslim will ask, "why the favoritism for china" and theregoes your campaign down the drain.
 
He is not modi who is master at ignoring like he ignored chinese incursions.

He needn't be like Modud to ask angry immigrants to ignore what the French are throwing at them.
 
One can already feel the deafening silence from other Muslim states in response to this letter, but this will go down well with certain voters in Pakistan who feel offended by Macron's behaviour.

That may be the case, but IK has done the right thing.
 
One can already feel the deafening silence from other Muslim states in response to this letter, but this will go down well with certain voters in Pakistan who feel offended by Macron's behaviour.

That may be the case, but IK has done the right thing.
 
Maybe he should first try to tackle the “Islamaphobia” that occurs within Pakistan’s borders, let alone our new pay masters.
 
Buss yehi dramay karalo is say!

When you are a country that is known for its pathetic living standards, terrorism, lawlessness and hunger, nobody will take you seriously.

First, focus on your development, treat your minorities well, improve the living standard of your people then you can talk about all these issues and it will suit you too.

This is nothing but to earn a few brownie points from the right-wingers.

If you are educated you will know that nothing lasts forever, the West has quite literally borrowed trillions and that can't go on forever. Sooner or later FIAT money will end and they too will have to pay their bills. If PK borrowed 2 trillion like the UK or 20 trillion like America, I am sure we too could look and feel like America. The future is not linear and remember Allah is the best planners.
 
And that's where the hypocrisy lies when you start these kind of campaigns. You are just playing with people's emotions for your own benefits.
I know you guys are desperate after Ladakh and all that **** kicking but you can't fight all your battles at once.
 
This isn’t a new phenomena.

After each atrocity in the context of ethnic cleansing, we look back and say how we could let that happen.

This is how we allow it to happen.

PK is a poor country that has been looted by Foreign backed criminals. Allah created PK for a reason, we know it and our enemies know it.
 
You mean Indians are restricted to thinking of Pakistanis as enemies because of their religion?

The subject isn't India here. Start a new thread and I'll reply as it will be off topic to discuss about India here.
 
PK is a poor country that has been looted by Foreign backed criminals. Allah created PK for a reason, we know it and our enemies know it.

Please don’t tell it to me.

Forward it to the Muslims in those camps. I’m sure they will find you words comforting.
 
If you are educated you will know that nothing lasts forever, the West has quite literally borrowed trillions and that can't go on forever. Sooner or later FIAT money will end and they too will have to pay their bills. If PK borrowed 2 trillion like the UK or 20 trillion like America, I am sure we too could look and feel like America. The future is not linear and remember Allah is the best planners.

Nothing lasts forever is correct. Empires rise and fall . I don’t know what god has anything to do with it. Saudis Arabia has money like the west. But nothing to show for it. So I have to disagree
 
It's just that your posts begin and end with China.

My post directly goes to IK which is the subject of this thread.

Your post has no relevance and I'll ask you to stop irrelevant posts. If you want to discuss about laddakh, start a new thread and we will discuss there. Shall we agree upon that?
 
Thread wasn't about China either was it, but you were happy to go there.

You are free to report my post if it was off-topic and let mod delete it if that's the case. I'll request you to go through that route instead of these kind of conversations.
 
Nothing lasts forever is correct. Empires rise and fall . I don’t know what god has anything to do with it. Saudis Arabia has money like the west. But nothing to show for it. So I have to disagree


"But how many generations before them did We destroy (for their sins) - stronger in power than they? Then did they wander through the land: was there any place of escape (for them)?" (Surah Qaf: 36)
 
Actually you are right. He hasn't excluded China so they may well be implicated as well in that letter.

Actually he did.

He wrote “esp Western states” to exclude and ignore the atrocities of his Chinese masters.
 
As long as Imran and by extension Pakistan ignore and defend the atrocities of their Chinese masters, their faux tears and sympathy for the sufferings of Muslims do not have a shred of credibility.

We are nothing but shameless hypocrites.
 
As long as Imran and by extension Pakistan ignore and defend the atrocities of their Chinese masters, their faux tears and sympathy for the sufferings of Muslims do not have a shred of credibility.

We are nothing but shameless hypocrites.

Don’t forget saudi killing of Yemenis
 
Indian foreign ministry has released a statement in support of France and Macron. Lol
 
Indian foreign ministry has released a statement in support of France and Macron. Lol

Is that any surprise fascists supporting each other?

Who cares that 200m of your population have been hurt and offended!
 
Is that any surprise fascists supporting each other?

Who cares that 200m of your population have been hurt and offended!

Like i keep repeating, the government and the hindutva extremists (which now form a major chunk of Indian hindu population) dont give two hoots about how muslims feel in their country.
 
Indians bring China into the discussion.

Pakistani Brits start defending China.

Rinse and repeat.

:uakmal
 
If it just the obvious or is there any other reason why india would support france rather than a sizeable minority of its population on this issue?

Its not like india would allow insulting cartoon caricatures of its gods to be posted on govt buildings in its country?
 
If it just the obvious or is there any other reason why india would support france rather than a sizeable minority of its population on this issue?

Its not like india would allow insulting cartoon caricatures of its gods to be posted on govt buildings in its country?

Maybe giving preference to relationship (strategic and economic) with France over say Turkey/Pakistan?

I would have preferred India to remain neutral and keep out of this.
 
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Actually he did.

He wrote “esp Western states” to exclude and ignore the atrocities of his Chinese masters.

In that case he would have wrote just western states, that he wrote "especially" means he recognises that there is Islamophobia in eastern states as well. As I said in another thread, it would be interesting to see what would be the Pakistani response if China were triumphantly abusive of Islam by projecting offensive images of the Prophet PBUH on their govt buildings. There really would be no room for fudging the issue then.
 
In that case he would have wrote just western states, that he wrote "especially" means he recognises that there is Islamophobia in eastern states as well. As I said in another thread, it would be interesting to see what would be the Pakistani response if China were triumphantly abusive of Islam by projecting offensive images of the Prophet PBUH on their govt buildings. There really would be no room for fudging the issue then.

They don't need to do that one particular act to be offensive toward Muslims. They're offensive enough as it is.
 
You said the same thing about letter to Facebook as well, in reality Facebook's head for India, Central and South Asia who was a raging Hindutva got fired. I don't know if Khan's letter had a part to play in it but she had been in the news for a bit due to her affiliation to BJP and Khan's letter might have been the final nail in the coffin.

In reality that person resigned because indian political parties had raised questions against her for last few weeks.

The day pakistan can get someone fired in India, will be the last day for that company in India.

Dont overestimate your worth, in terms of market, India is 10 times more valuable than Pakistan.
 
Is that any surprise fascists supporting each other?

Who cares that 200m of your population have been hurt and offended!

France is a strategic ally. Who have supported India in wars. They and Russia were the only major countries that didn't put sanctions on India post 1998 nuclear tests. They are a security partner since decades.

So its a matter of security of 1.3 bn people and that cannot be taken on the basis of religious consideration of 200mn.
 
Instead of focussing on fixing the economy of his near-bankrupt country, this guy Imran is ratcheting up religious tension and stirring up the extremists and crazies in other countries, by telling them Islam is under attack. I really fear for Macron's safety.
 
Instead of focussing on fixing the economy of his near-bankrupt country, this guy Imran is ratcheting up religious tension and stirring up the extremists and crazies in other countries, by telling them Islam is under attack. I really fear for Macron's safety.

Pakistan's economy is doing well.



You on the other hand experienced negative double digit growth. Ask your Hindutva bosses to update the propaganda manual. It's outdated
 
So the self-appointed khalifa has the time to write a two page letter on western Islamophobia (Chinese Islamophobia is halal) but doesn’t have the time to make a single tweet about the Christian girl.

And then we wonder why he is not taken seriously on the international forum and why all his bombastic speeches and pleas on Kashmir fall on deaf ears.
 
In that case he would have wrote just western states, that he wrote "especially" means he recognises that there is Islamophobia in eastern states as well. As I said in another thread, it would be interesting to see what would be the Pakistani response if China were triumphantly abusive of Islam by projecting offensive images of the Prophet PBUH on their govt buildings. There really would be no room for fudging the issue then.

By writing “esp Western states”, he is basically downplaying/deflecting the atrocities of his Chinese masters.

Why would you write especially Western states when no western state today comes close to competing with China when it comes to brutalizing Muslims?

What is happening inside the Xinjiang camps is very much comparable to the Nazi concentration camps. You won’t find an equivalent in any western country today.

Macron is a saint compared to Xi Jinping.
 
Imran pretends to be a champion of Islam and human rights but yet does not have the guts to call out China, the state that is leading the way when it comes to terrorizing Muslims.

When it comes to national interests, human and Islamic rights do not matter.
 
Imran pretends to be a champion of Islam and human rights but yet does not have the guts to call out China, the state that is leading the way when it comes to terrorizing Muslims.

When it comes to national interests, human and Islamic rights do not matter.

Come now, he can't speak against China. Else = Paisa Band.
 
“Pen is mightier than the sword” :))
 
I dont really understand the purpose of this letter other than it being a point scorer with the voters of Pakistan. You cant expect west to give up on their idea of freedom of speech because muslim sentiments can be hurt via a cartoon. Also there's no known depiction of our Prophet available and yet muslims get all angry over a cartoon depiction of our Prophet?? Seriously why should I even consider this cartoon as a depiction of Prophet? Why should I provide ammunition to people to hate muslims more?? No doubt the real problem lies with us muslims and how ignorant we are. We have abandoned the Quran and its instructions and rather following a false hadith culture. We have mostly greedy, hypocrite and comedic personas leading us in the garb of leaders and scholars. No wonder most muslims are nothing but burdens in most world societies.
 
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By writing “esp Western states”, he is basically downplaying/deflecting the atrocities of his Chinese masters.

Why would you write especially Western states when no western state today comes close to competing with China when it comes to brutalizing Muslims?

What is happening inside the Xinjiang camps is very much comparable to the Nazi concentration camps. You won’t find an equivalent in any western country today.

Macron is a saint compared to Xi Jinping.

Because it is only the western states, in particular France who are insistent on attacking Islam directly by abusing the holy Prophet PBUH. China may be brutalising Muslims but they will argue they are terrorists. Now it is up to the rest of the world if this is true or not. There is no grey area when it comes to deliberately designing and then flaunting offensive images of the Prophet PBUH, it is a fact and the French govt not only admit it, they are openly and triumphantly pursuing it. You may or may not be pleased with this, that is your choice, but for most Muslims in the third world that is offensive in the extreme.
 
Because it is only the western states, in particular France who are insistent on attacking Islam directly by abusing the holy Prophet PBUH. China may be brutalising Muslims but they will argue they are terrorists. Now it is up to the rest of the world if this is true or not. There is no grey area when it comes to deliberately designing and then flaunting offensive images of the Prophet PBUH, it is a fact and the French govt not only admit it, they are openly and triumphantly pursuing it. You may or may not be pleased with this, that is your choice, but for most Muslims in the third world that is offensive in the extreme.

Your post implies that the images of the prophet (PBUH) being depicted this way are worse than the extermination of thousands upon thousands of people.

I would have thought that actual bodily harm on Muslims is more abhorrent than images that, while causing offence, result in no physical harm.
 
Your post implies that the images of the prophet (PBUH) being depicted this way are worse than the extermination of thousands upon thousands of people.

I would have thought that actual bodily harm on Muslims is more abhorrent than images that, while causing offence, result in no physical harm.

My post laid out quite clearly what was grey area and what wasn't. You don't need to look for any implications, just read it as is.
 
I feel people are being a bit harsh on Imran. We all know he cannot call out China, if he did, that would be the end of him and Pakistan, have to empathize with him (even though I myself has trolled Imran on the Ughyurs in the past).

However it would have been real interesting to see the reaction of muslims all over the world if Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) cartoon is drawn in China in the future. IMO only a few countries will raise noises, real poor 4th world countries that is, 3rd world countries like Pakistan would still be silent like a mouse...

There is no Ummah, its all about the haves and have nots...If we put it right into the needy greedy, aren't Pakistanis going to hell fire for ignoring the sufferings of their Ughyur muslim bretherns, right next to them >? I could be wrong...
 
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Because it is only the western states, in particular France who are insistent on attacking Islam directly by abusing the holy Prophet PBUH. China may be brutalising Muslims but they will argue they are terrorists. Now it is up to the rest of the world if this is true or not. There is no grey area when it comes to deliberately designing and then flaunting offensive images of the Prophet PBUH, it is a fact and the French govt not only admit it, they are openly and triumphantly pursuing it. You may or may not be pleased with this, that is your choice, but for most Muslims in the third world that is offensive in the extreme.

Why are you bothering to argue a point that you yourself don’t believe in? I am sure you are smart enough to realize that your apologetic stance has no conviction.

We all know that if China were to depict such cartoons, Imran would not have the courage to call them out and confront them.

Similarly, if some other country would have tortured Muslims in such camps, Imran would be firing tweets 24/7.
 
Because it is only the western states, in particular France who are insistent on attacking Islam directly by abusing the holy Prophet PBUH. China may be brutalising Muslims but they will argue they are terrorists.

How can peoplefolk from an entire province be terrorists?
 
Why are you bothering to argue a point that you yourself don’t believe in? I am sure you are smart enough to realize that your apologetic stance has no conviction.

We all know that if China were to depict such cartoons, Imran would not have the courage to call them out and confront them.

Similarly, if some other country would have tortured Muslims in such camps, Imran would be firing tweets 24/7.

You should pray that China does depict abusive cartoons of the Prophet PBUH, then the Muslim leaders around the world bluff will be called. As it is, already there will be questions being asked in Muslim countries why it is Iran, Pakistan and Turkey who have objected and all the gulf Arab countries who have strong trade ties with France are relatively mute.
 
It does seem suspicious, but then seems to work in Burma and Kashmir.

Then why the triple standards?

Kashmir = Outright opposition
Burma = Let's sell JF-17s!
China = Outright silence
 
Then why the triple standards?

Kashmir = Outright opposition
Burma = Let's sell JF-17s!
China = Outright silence

Because in the modern world nations tend to work with others despite having major differences with them. UK and Saudi Arabia being a great example, and in fact India/Saudi Arabia would be good example too. I can speak for Britain, but tell me, why does your country have triple standards?
 
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