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I was wrong - read the first post not mid-season one lol

We are only allowed two player type changes.

The only other way to have right / left new ball pair is to scratch previous contract swaps.

And have Rayyman swap contract with wc captain (so skip becomes platinum)

And have Babar swap contract with Arshad

Meaning you will remain with Diamond
[MENTION=135989]world cup captain[/MENTION]
 
[MENTION=135989]world cup captain[/MENTION]

Come quick :))) I've summarized the changes as follows for you to copy and paste:

Contract swap: [MENTION=137148]Rayyman[/MENTION] (platinum) and world cup captain (gold)} to [MENTION=137148]Rayyman[/MENTION] (gold) and world cup captain (platinum).

Contract swap: #Arshad Iqbal (platinum) and #Babar Azam (regular) to #Arshad Iqbal (regular) and #Babar Azam (platinum).

Player type change: [MENTION=148120]iPakistani[/MENTION] from right arm fast bowling AR (gold) to pure right arm fast bowler (gold)

Player type change: shafkath to fast bowling AR (reg)

Final Squad
1) 95 skill bat (Watsupdoc) left
2) 90 skill bat (Babar) right
3) 85 skill bat (Ahmad) right
4) 85 skill bat (Future Knick) left
5) 80 skill bat (Rayyman) right
6) 80 skill bat (Jibran) left
7) 40 skill bat / 95 skill bowl (wc captain) right
8) 35 skill bat / 90 skill bowl (Amir) left
9) 30 skill bat / 85 skill bowl (Thunderbolt14) left
10) 25 skill bat / 80 skill bowl (iPakistani) right
11) 25 skill bat / 80 skill bowl (Smudger)

Bench:
20 skill bat / 75 skill bowl (Usama Mir)
50 skill bat / 60 skill bowl (shafkath)
20 skill bat / 75 skill bowl (Arshad Iqbal)
 
So guys normal pitch vs. Multan they bat deep but their bowling isn’t super strong. Their highest skill bowler would be diamond contract after the swaps they have made.

Their line-up will probably look something like this

1) 95
2) 90
3) 85
4) 80
5) 80
6) 80/70 (bat A/R) - off spin
7) 70/70 (Khusdil - left leg spin)
8) 85 ball (pacer)
9) 85 ball (pacer)
10) 80 pacer
11) 75 (Tahir) or another spinner AR with low batting and bowling skill


My suggestion for the team line-up is to go with 3 pace and 2 spin attack. Also keep me and Babar a bit apart so as to try and maximise the impact of platinum batters

1) Smudger
2) Rayyman
3) World Cup captain (platinum contract)
4) Babar
5) Da_Futur_Knick
6) Watsupdoc
7) Ahmedharis1
8) Jibran
9) Amir
10) thunderbolt
11) Usama Mir
 
When did the Kings hire Peter Moores? So much emphasis on the data :mv
 
I like that you're top loading with righties given that most of their bowlers are righties. Small change is I would keep the order the same except for making one of the openers a leftie to account for Babu Bhaiya (diamond) who is changing from rightie to leftie (only leftie bowler in the squad) and will be taking the new ball.
1) Amir
2) Jibran
3) World Cup captain
4) Babar
5) Da_Future_Knick
6) Watsupdoc
7) Ahmedharis1
8) Rayyman
9) Thunderbolt14
10) Smudger
11) Usama Mir

Thoughts [MENTION=135989]world cup captain[/MENTION] [MENTION=55088]Watsupdoc[/MENTION]?
 
I like that you're top loading with righties given that most of their bowlers are righties. Small change is I would keep the order the same except for making one of the openers a leftie to account for Babu Bhaiya (diamond) who is changing from rightie to leftie (only leftie bowler in the squad) and will be taking the new ball.
1) Amir
2) Jibran
3) World Cup captain
4) Babar
5) Da_Future_Knick
6) Watsupdoc
7) Ahmedharis1
8) Rayyman
9) Thunderbolt14
10) Smudger
11) Usama Mir

Thoughts [MENTION=135989]world cup captain[/MENTION] [MENTION=55088]Watsupdoc[/MENTION]?

Think we should keep Amir down the order as batting skills are better than other tail-enders. Otherwise why not :)
 
Given our spinners, let's look to bat first. The deterioration should help our spinners especially since their middle order is composed of mostly right-handers. Batting second shouldn't be terrible because our attack should be able to hold them to a below-par total.

1) Amir
2) World Cup captain
3) Jibran
4) Babar
5) Da_Future_Knick
6) Watsupdoc
7) Ahmedharis1
8) Rayyman
9) Thunderbolt14
10) Smudger
11) Usama Mir

The only thing I would change is swap Jibran with me. Due to the mandatory wicket loss in the first couple of overs, I rather lose a bowler trying to hit our than a batsman.
 
[MENTION=29901]Thunderbolt[/MENTION], as the VC, you can post official team information on matches threads and such.
 
But if we don't lose wicket upfront then wouldn't the start be too slow with two tailenders opening?
 
So guys normal pitch vs. Multan they bat deep but their bowling isn’t super strong. Their highest skill bowler would be diamond contract after the swaps they have made.

Their line-up will probably look something like this

1) 95
2) 90
3) 85
4) 80
5) 80
6) 80/70 (bat A/R) - off spin
7) 70/70 (Khusdil - left leg spin)
8) 85 ball (pacer)
9) 85 ball (pacer)
10) 80 pacer
11) 75 (Tahir) or another spinner AR with low batting and bowling skill

Thank you for providing me half of my homework.
 
But if we don't lose wicket upfront then wouldn't the start be too slow with two tailenders opening?

Then let's only have one bowler at the top. There's no need for a bowler to come in at one down.

1) Jibran
2) Amir
3) Babar
4) Da_Future_Knick
5) Watsupdoc
6) Ahmedharis1
7) Rayyman
8) World Cup Captain
9) Thunderbolt14
10) Smudger
11) Usama Mir
 
Then let's only have one bowler at the top. There's no need for a bowler to come in at one down.

1) Jibran
2) Amir
3) Babar
4) Da_Future_Knick
5) Watsupdoc
6) Ahmedharis1
7) Rayyman
8) World Cup Captain
9) Thunderbolt14
10) Smudger
11) Usama Mir

Maybe switch Rayyman and Jibrans position to have left-right combo up top.

Otherwise looks good to me.
 
So much intent and rationalized discussions.

This KK Think tank should replace Deano & Waz.
 
Ok so Jeetu went ahead and made Thunderbolt platinum and I am a diamond (makes no difference in our strategy). Given the higher rating, thunderbolt is batting up the order.

1) Jibran
2) Thunderbolt14
3) Babar
4) Da_Future_Knick
5) Watsupdoc
6) Ahmedharis1
7) Rayyman
8) Amir
9) World Cup Captain
10) Smudger
11) Usama Mir
 
Ok so Jeetu went ahead and made Thunderbolt platinum and I am a diamond (makes no difference in our strategy). Given the higher rating, thunderbolt is batting up the order.

1) Jibran
2) Thunderbolt14
3) Babar
4) Da_Future_Knick
5) Watsupdoc
6) Ahmedharis1
7) Rayyman
8) Amir
9) World Cup Captain
10) Smudger
11) Usama Mir

Let’s wait and see maybe he didn’t see the other post.

I think it should be fine to cancel the other contracts swap you had put earlier and put the new ones in (Babar as platinum now and Arshad as regular / World Cup captain as platinum now and Rayyman as gold) - since it was still before the deadline.

Thunderbolt remains at diamond

[MENTION=53377]jeetu[/MENTION] [MENTION=40952]Batman[/MENTION] that should be fine right?
 
Karachi Kings Squad Update


RoleBat SkillBowl SkillBat HandBowl HandContract
1Sharjeel KhanBatsman750Left Hand-Regular
2RayymanBatsman800Right Hand-Gold
3JibranAnsariBatsman800Left Hand-Gold
4Da_Future_KnickBatsman850Left Hand-Diamond
5ahmedharis1Batsman850Right Hand-Diamond
6Babar AzamBatsman900Right Hand-Platinum
7WatsupdocWK950Left Hand-Platinum
8World Cup CaptainFast4095Left HandRight ArmPlatinum
9Mohammad AmirFast Medium3590Right HandLeft ArmPlatinum
10Thunderbolt14Fast3085Left HandLeft ArmDiamond
11SmudgerLeg Spin2580Left HandLeft Arm Gold
12IpakistaniFast Medium2580Right HandRight ArmGold
13Usama MirLeg Spin2075Right HandRight ArmRegular
14Arshad IqbalFast Medium2075Right HandRight ArmRegular
15shafkathLeft Arm Fast AR5565Right HandRight ArmRegular
 
Multan's Line Up

65/55 (Off Spin)
90/0
85/0
95/0
70/70 (Leg Spin)
80/0
80/0
55/65 (Leg Spin)
30/85 (Fast)
20/75 (Leg Spin)
30/85 (Fast)

Their #2,#3 and #4 will be the main challenge so hopefully, Amir and I can rip them out and our spinner can feast on their middle order.

Their bowling very weak but depends on the deterioration of the pitch. They're only playing 2 pacers and 1 proper leggie and 3 AR spinners. If we bat first, we should be able to smack them around easily.

We'll go back to our initial line up.

1) Jibran
2) Amir
3) Babar
4) Da_Future_Knick
5) Watsupdoc
6) Ahmedharis1
7) Rayyman
8) World Cup Captain
9) Thunderbolt14
10) Smudger
11) Usama Mir
[MENTION=55088]Watsupdoc[/MENTION] [MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION]
 
Is Babar at 1 down ideal? This will mean he will almost certainly face the new ball

But if we don't lose wicket upfront then wouldn't the start be too slow with two tailenders opening?

A bowler opening against the new ball on a normal pitch against diamond is pretty certain to lose his wicket. If Amir gets out in the first or second over for example, Babar will have to face the third over which will be bowled by Babu Bhaiya

Given our spinners, let's look to bat first. The deterioration should help our spinners especially since their middle order is composed of mostly right-handers. Batting second shouldn't be terrible because our attack should be able to hold them to a below-par total.

1) Amir
2) World Cup captain
3) Jibran
4) Babar
5) Da_Future_Knick
6) Watsupdoc
7) Ahmedharis1
8) Rayyman
9) Thunderbolt14
10) Smudger
11) Usama Mir

The only thing I would change is swap Jibran with me. Due to the mandatory wicket loss in the first couple of overs, I rather lose a bowler trying to hit our than a batsman.

I actually like this lineup most for the above reasons. But your decision skip
 
Multan's Line Up

65/55 (Off Spin)
90/0
85/0
95/0
70/70 (Leg Spin)
80/0
80/0
55/65 (Leg Spin)
30/85 (Fast)
20/75 (Leg Spin)
30/85 (Fast)

Their #2,#3 and #4 will be the main challenge so hopefully, Amir and I can rip them out and our spinner can feast on their middle order.

Their bowling very weak but depends on the deterioration of the pitch. They're only playing 2 pacers and 1 proper leggie and 3 AR spinners. If we bat first, we should be able to smack them around easily.

We'll go back to our initial line up.

1) Jibran
2) Amir
3) Babar
4) Da_Future_Knick
5) Watsupdoc
6) Ahmedharis1
7) Rayyman
8) World Cup Captain
9) Thunderbolt14
10) Smudger
11) Usama Mir
[MENTION=55088]Watsupdoc[/MENTION] [MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION]

I find this like-up good. Don’t think we should open with two tail-Enders just out of the fear of losing early wickets.

Let’s be a bit positive here.
 
[MENTION=55088]Watsupdoc[/MENTION] man remember PPCL season 1? Me, you, KU, Pboy, Toca, and Murphy uncle with those Chatzy runs :)))

Man I miss those days :/
 
[MENTION=55088]Watsupdoc[/MENTION] man remember PPCL season 1? Me, you, KU, Pboy, Toca, and Murphy uncle with those Chatzy runs :)))

Man I miss those days :/

Those were the days! You used to act so innocent and uncle Murphy with his wisdom :)))

Same here man miss those days :(

Lets try to be in the same team for the next PPCL tournament / season bro! :afridi
 
[MENTION=135989]world cup captain[/MENTION]. [MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION] what are the thoughts for the pitch type for the game against Islamabad?

The have 4 platinum bats.
 
Those were the days! You used to act so innocent and uncle Murphy with his wisdom :)))

Same here man miss those days :(

Lets try to be in the same team for the next PPCL tournament / season bro! :afridi

Haha for sure bro gotta make that reunion happen again.

Why next tournament? There is still time in this one :butt [MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION]
 
WOW, from platinum player to 12th man?! :sree I see how it is :afaq

I pulled the strings to get you Platinum at Peshawar and [MENTION=137764]Manager101[/MENTION] has been set-up with multiple dates on his private Island now. Be grateful! :sanga
 
I pulled the strings to get you Platinum at Peshawar and [MENTION=137764]Manager101[/MENTION] has been set-up with multiple dates on his private Island now. Be grateful! :sanga

The second part I can confirm. Look at the Zalmi team thread - me talking to myself while Manager living the life on his private island. :afaq :ghalib
 
AFM, Fast, Left, 30/85
TrentDevil, Fast, Right, 30/85
MenInG, MediumFast, Right, 25/80
Batman, LegSpin, Right, 30/85
Ismailtoca, Medium, Left, 20/75
Deewana Mastana, FastMedium, Right, 65/55

This looks like their most likely attack - 5 pacers (including a batting AR) and one spinner
 
The second part I can confirm. Look at the Zalmi team thread - me talking to myself while Manager living the life on his private island. :afaq :ghalib

You should come to Karachi sometime khushboo laga k - we’ll go on our own private party ahead of the play-offs :ghalib
 
AFM, Fast, Left, 30/85
TrentDevil, Fast, Right, 30/85
MenInG, MediumFast, Right, 25/80
Batman, LegSpin, Right, 30/85
Ismailtoca, Medium, Left, 20/75
Deewana Mastana, FastMedium, Right, 65/55

This looks like their most likely attack - 5 pacers (including a batting AR) and one spinner

Their spin bowling is weak? How about dry pitch then?

Or we could try and take advantage of our stronger bowling unit and go for Spicy pitch
 
Spin is just slightly weaker than ours:

Batman, LegSpin, Right, 85 and Major, BowlAR, OffSpin, Right, 65

Ours is
Smudger, LegSpin, Right, 80 and Usama Mir, Leg Spin, Right, 75

If we went with dry, I would still go with 4/1 personally to take advantage of the pitch attributes.

But the greatest advantage is if we went spicy, it would allow us to back our bowlers against their strong batting lineup but their bowlers won't find as much help (due to lower attributes and limited number of good pacers). While our batsmen would hypothetically be lower rated, IU will run out of bowlers to trouble us with once we get through the new ball and it should be smooth sailing from there even on a spicy pitch if we bury our platinum's lower down the order. On the other hand, the spicy pitch allows us to provide bite against the 4 batsmen, against whom we will be helpless on a dry pitch.

To me, it's a very clear move to go 5/0 on a spicy pitch (replacing Smudger with iPakistani) and allow our bowlers maximum penetration. Anything else would run the risk of their batsmen cutting loose, and like you said, it's a positive approach to back our bowling.
 
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We could even go with Devilish? Not sure what that would look like since it hasn't been simmed.
 
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Yea I agree we should go for Spicy or Devilish.

Devilish is a bit more risky, but might well be worth the risk and an experiment.
 
[MENTION=53377]jeetu[/MENTION], could you list the attributes of a spicy and devilish pitch?

There are no attributes as such , but it seems that it increases bowling skills and reduces batting skills as pitch goes from normal to spicy and so on. Reverse for dry pitch and higher.
 
Multan Game:

1) World Cup Captain
2) Amir
3) Da_Future_Knick
4) Babar
5) Watsupdoc
6) Ahmedharis1
7) Rayyman
8) Jibran
9) Thunderbolt14
10) Smudger
11) Usama Mir

Going to tweak the line up a little bit. We lost the last game because we lost our batsmen at the top. If we win the toss, the two bowlers should be able to bat an over or two so our batsmen pounce no the weaker bowling.

On the other hand, if we lose the toss, chasing will be tough. The last thing we want is to lose a couple of batsmen in the first two overs. I rather have a slower start because our batsmen can make up for it later against weaker bowling.
 
Multan Game:

1) World Cup Captain
2) Amir
3) Da_Future_Knick
4) Babar
5) Watsupdoc
6) Ahmedharis1
7) Rayyman
8) Jibran
9) Thunderbolt14
10) Smudger
11) Usama Mir

Going to tweak the line up a little bit. We lost the last game because we lost our batsmen at the top. If we win the toss, the two bowlers should be able to bat an over or two so our batsmen pounce no the weaker bowling.

On the other hand, if we lose the toss, chasing will be tough. The last thing we want is to lose a couple of batsmen in the first two overs. I rather have a slower start because our batsmen can make up for it later against weaker bowling.

Agreed, looks good!
 
Here is my suggestion for the next home game. I think we need to put me and Babar further apart in batting order and maybe we are over thinking in terms of left right combination.

1) IPakistani
2) Thunderbolt
3) Da_Future_Knick
4) Babar
5) Rayyman
6) Watsupdoc
7) Jibranansari
8) Ahmedharis1
9) Shafkath
10) World Cup captain
11) Amir
[MENTION=135989]world cup captain[/MENTION] [MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION]
 
Here is my suggestion for the next home game. I think we need to put me and Babar further apart in batting order and maybe we are over thinking in terms of left right combination.

Agreed, it looks like the reason for our collapse.
 
Agreed, it looks like the reason for our collapse.

Yea we both end up batting around same time and then one of the platinum player gets out early. Maybe if we put the two platinum bats further apart both will perform :))

Maybe in the line-up suggestion above I posted - we can even put Babar at 3?
 
Yea we both end up batting around same time and then one of the platinum player gets out early. Maybe if we put the two platinum bats further apart both will perform :))

Maybe in the line-up suggestion above I posted - we can even put Babar at 3?

I like the line up on post #284 but keep Babar at 4. On a spicy pitch, 1-2 wickets are guaranteed to fall and Babar shouldn't be part of the wickets.
 
I like the line up on post #284 but keep Babar at 4. On a spicy pitch, 1-2 wickets are guaranteed to fall and Babar shouldn't be part of the wickets.

Given our ground characteristics you are right we are probably quite likely to lose a few wickets with the new ball.

So yea let’s keep Babar at 4
 
[MENTION=135989]world cup captain[/MENTION] [MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION]

What are your thoughts for the game against Lahore on dry wicket?
 
[MENTION=135989]world cup captain[/MENTION] [MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION]

What are your thoughts for the game against Lahore on dry wicket?

Two spin options, both Smudger and Mir. Let's also not bury our batsmen too far down. maybe open with wc captain and rayyman. One down babar, two down ahmadharis or future knick, and then you. Haven't looked at Lahore's bowling stats though
 
Two spin options, both Smudger and Mir. Let's also not bury our batsmen too far down. maybe open with wc captain and rayyman. One down babar, two down ahmadharis or future knick, and then you. Haven't looked at Lahore's bowling stats though

I agree shouldn’t bury our batsman too low down.

I don’t think we should open with a tailender either. They have Shaheen only as a platinum bowler.

Maybe we could consider opening with Babar. Opening the batting with platinum seems to be working for Lahore.
 
If we open with platinum then it should be with you, not Babar. Shaheen’s a leftie.
 
I think we should go with the below:

1) Babar
2) Jibran
3) Ahmedharis1
4) Watsupdoc
5) Da_Future_Knick
6) Rayyman
7) World cup captain
8) Amir
9) Thunderbolt
10) Smudger
11) Usama

Otherwise:

1) Da_Future_Knick
2) Jibran
3) Babar
4) Ahmedharis1
5) Watsupdoc
6) Rayyman
7) World Cup captain
8) Amir
9) Thunderbolt
10) Smudger
11) Usama
 
I'm inclined to chase given the batting nature of the pitch but worried we will choke to low-level spinners again. :facepalm:

We haven't tried opening with gold batsmen yet, may as well give that a go too.

1) Rayyman
2) Jibran
3) Babar
4) Ahmedharis1
5) Watsupdoc
6) Da_Future_Knick
7) World Cup captain
8) Amir
9) Thunderbolt
10) Smudger
11) Usama
 
I'm inclined to chase given the batting nature of the pitch but worried we will choke to low-level spinners again. :facepalm:

We haven't tried opening with gold batsmen yet, may as well give that a go too.

1) Rayyman
2) Jibran
3) Babar
4) Ahmedharis1
5) Watsupdoc
6) Da_Future_Knick
7) World Cup captain
8) Amir
9) Thunderbolt
10) Smudger
11) Usama

Looks good to me. Let’s stay positive and play a normal batting line-up :))
 
Also doesn’t matter about batting or bowling first. Go with your gut feel.

I personally think we should bowl first.
 
Also doesn’t matter about batting or bowling first. Go with your gut feel.

I personally think we should bowl first.

Same here but the collapse reminded me of the test match choke against NZ. :afaq

We'll look to bowl first though. I'm sure the law of averages will pull through. :cummins
 
Same here but the collapse reminded me of the test match choke against NZ. :afaq

We'll look to bowl first though. I'm sure the law of averages will pull through. :cummins

That reminded me of the choke England had vs Pakistan in UAE when Ajmal and Rehman put on the screws as well :afaq

Yea in theory it’s a batting wicket so we shouldn’t be collapsing hopefully :))
 
Let’s be positive and give ourselves some credit. We did amazingly in the last game until Waz sent his signal from the dressing room to Doc in the middle :inti
 
Also what’s up with Usama Mir’s obsession with trying to break the world record for longest over ever :)))
 
Let’s be positive and give ourselves some credit. We did amazingly in the last game until Waz sent his signal from the dressing room to Doc in the middle :inti

It wasn’t just me, Ahmedharis, Jibran, Rayyman all were involved. We lost like what 6 wickets for 20 runs :))) :asif
 
For match 9 against Quetta, thinking of going with either flat or pancake. Till now, they have lost their two games on batting friendly pitches, dry and flat, both against Lahore and batting first.
 
For match 9 against Quetta, thinking of going with either flat or pancake. Till now, they have lost their two games on batting friendly pitches, dry and flat, both against Lahore and batting first.

Let’s go for Road. Pancake is too toss dependent.
 
What a loss some time it’s the batting collapses and some time it’s the high skill bowlers that go for plenty.

One thing is for certain though bowling skill is useless :)))

So let’s play all our games on batting paradises now :afridi
 
What a loss some time it’s the batting collapses and some time it’s the high skill bowlers that go for plenty.

One thing is for certain though bowling skill is useless :)))

So let’s play all our games on batting paradises now :afridi

Agreed :)))
 
[MENTION=135989]world cup captain[/MENTION] [MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION]

In the end qualification might depend on NRR.

Is it worth taking a gamble against Quetta and going for a nightmare / unplayable pitch?
 
[MENTION=135989]world cup captain[/MENTION] [MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION]

In the end qualification might depend on NRR.

Is it worth taking a gamble against Quetta and going for a nightmare / unplayable pitch?

We have a terrible toss record and if it will balance out, then it's definitely worth it. Their bowling their strong suit so it won't be as helpful to them as it will help us.
 
Round 8 against Lahore on Dry pitch:

1) Rayyman
2) Jibran
3) Babar
4) Ahmedharis1
5) Watsupdoc
6) Da_Future_Knick
7) World Cup captain
8) Amir
9) Thunderbolt
10) Smudger
11) Usama


Round 9 against Quetta (heavy bowling attack) pitch type: Nightmare?
 
Don’t worry, our bowlers will go for plenty on a nightmare track too. But yes, we need to up the net run rate as qualification looks difficult otherwise
 
If we could wait until the result of match against Lahore that would have been perfect :))

If we win the next 3 we’ll go through for sure. But honestly winning against Zalmi at their home looks difficult.

So it’s upto you skip go with what your gut says.
 
For all your hoopla against Misbah, you guys lost to him twice.

:salute
 
If we could wait until the result of match against Lahore that would have been perfect :))

If we win the next 3 we’ll go through for sure. But honestly winning against Zalmi at their home looks difficult.

So it’s upto you skip go with what your gut says.

Yes, we'll wait for Lahore and if we don't win big, we'll have to risk it.
 
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