Predict the outcome of the 2-match Test series between West Indies and Pakistan

[MenInG]

2 matches (wish they were three!)

1st one starts on the 12th and the 2nd on the 20th.

Pakistan Test squad looks good but the real unknown to me is the Windies one!

So what will be the outcome?

 

[Shoaibbtt]

When are WI announcing their test squad?

 

[saintgrace]

None of these two sides are favorite to win both. 1 1 could be a possible outcome.
I would like to see wi winning both.

 

[sweep_shot]

I have voted for 1-1.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Rain ruining the games will on the cards again I guess. In 2017, in a much better weather, we had 2 days lost to rain I think atleast.

If WI make the pitches they have been making against England and SA, then I see WI winning. If they make spinning ones, then Pak will win probably.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Windies can be a formidable side at home when they want to, as England would attest.

But then again, they can also just capitulate at the drop of a dime.

 

[Amjid Javed]

0-0 with both tests ruined by rain. The fact both teams chose to reduce 3 match series into 2 to try and play more T20s was pathetic to say the least.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

0-0 with both tests ruined by rain. The fact both teams chose to reduce 3 match series into 2 to try and play more T20s was pathetic to say the least.

There was a financial reason behind it from WI, Pak were up for it.

 

[shamaan]

I think Pakistan will win 1 game and the other game will get draw due to rain

 

[Amjid Javed]

There was a financial reason behind it from WI, Pak were up for it.

Even if it didnt rain, no one would have turned up to these extra T20 games so the so called extra financial revenue was never going to happen.

 

[Omer2002]

I dont think we will win the series unfortunately but maybe draw it

 

[Shoaibbtt]

Even if it didnt rain, no one would have turned up to these extra T20 games so the so called extra financial revenue was never going to happen.

Sorry can't really understand what you've written there.

WI said they couldn't support a 3rd test and so Pakistan were obligated to say that's fine, both sides then agreed to another t20 to be added.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

They’d have to pay me to watch this series.


0-0, both games will be draws.

 

[classic]

They’d have to pay me to watch this series.


0-0, both games will be draws.

2-0 to Pakistan.

You heard it here 1st.

 

[Afhan Ali]

Rain 1
WI 1
Pak 0

 

[Yasir_ch]

Pakistan should win both the tests.
2-0 Pakistan.

 

[hafeezrocks]

Rain will win the series 0-0

 

[King_Kohli]

2-0 to Pakistan.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Sorry can't really understand what you've written there.

WI said they couldn't support a 3rd test and so Pakistan were obligated to say that's fine, both sides then agreed to another t20 to be added.

WI saying they couldnt host a 3rd test is a poor excuse from them. If they had there way they would probably play no test cricket at all. cricket in carribean apart from T20s is dead. This whole year seems to be just T20 orientated because of the world cup and test cricket is just being ruined more and more.

 

[ssuhaide]

1-0 to the West Indies with 1 test being rained off

 

[mastimasti]

I think rain will play a big part! Probably a drawn series.

 

[Heisenberg111]

1-0 to Pakistan hopefully.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

WI saying they couldnt host a 3rd test is a poor excuse from them. If they had there way they would probably play no test cricket at all. cricket in carribean apart from T20s is dead. This whole year seems to be just T20 orientated because of the world cup and test cricket is just being ruined more and more.

If a board says it can’t afford to do it, you can’t be jerks about it just take their word for it and say fair enough. A compromise was given and both agreed, it’s just unfortunate how things have turned out.

 

[PakLFC]

I see 1-1 written all over this one. If we get a winner it'll be the Windies being at home and all.

 

[street cricketer]

Depends on the nature of the wickets.

Fast and bouncy wickets will probably give the Windies quicks a slight advantage while slow and turning wickets will play into Pakistan's hands.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

Depends on the nature of the wickets.

Fast and bouncy wickets will probably give the Windies quicks a slight advantage while slow and turning wickets will play into Pakistan's hands.

Pakistan have equally good pacers in Abbas, Shaheen and Hassan Ali, so you wanna take the risk of preparing a fast and bouncy pitch?

 

[street cricketer]

Pakistan have equally good pacers in Abbas, Shaheen and Hassan Ali, so you wanna take the risk of preparing a fast and bouncy pitch?

West Indies prepared such wickets even against the Indian pacers. They are not shy of using their new found strategy in winning test matches at home.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

West Indies prepared such wickets even against the Indian pacers. They are not shy of using their new found strategy in winning test matches at home.

Well i'd like to think we have patient batsmen. It's certainly Pakistan's most challenging test of this year but having faced the likes of Nortje, Rabada, Jamieson, Wagner, Southee and Boult this would be a breeze in comparison.

Looking at the stats online in How's stat, it looks like Sabina Park favours pacers more so, the WI bowlers aren't the quickest but the bowling is certainly on target so i'm a little shakey with Mayers, Holder and Roach (especially him).

InshAllah i see our middle order handling these guys.

 

[shamaan]

Pakistan have equally good pacers in Abbas, Shaheen and Hassan Ali, so you wanna take the risk of preparing a fast and bouncy pitch?

If its fast and bouncy then dahani should be given ago but I highly doubt he will play.either way Pakistan start as favourites even if it turns or is a seaming pitch.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

If its fast and bouncy then dahani should be given ago but I highly doubt he will play.either way Pakistan start as favourites even if it turns or is a seaming pitch.

WI don't have the quickest bowlers, shame they don't have stats on speeds in Cricinfo.

Gabriel and Joesph are probs the fastest, Gabriel is suffering from fitness issues so he might not get selected.

 

[shamaan]

WI don't have the quickest bowlers, shame they don't have stats on speeds in Cricinfo.

Gabriel and Joesph are probs the fastest, Gabriel is suffering from fitness issues so he might not get selected.

They have roach aswell.pakistan bowlers are quicker but we are ineffective when trying to use the bounce.hassan Abbas and shaheen are pitch the ball up bowlers.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

They have roach aswell.pakistan bowlers are quicker but we are ineffective when trying to use the bounce.hassan Abbas and shaheen are pitch the ball up bowlers.

Well let's see Roach has injury issues here and there. Let's see who they select as WI haven't announced their squad yet.

We have a tall batting order in my view and they can do the business.

My playing XI though:

1. Abid Ali (reluctant pick)
2. Imran Butt (reluctant pick)
3. Babar Azam(c)
4. Azhar Ali
5. Fawad Alam
6. Muhammad Rizwan
7. Faheem Ashraf
8. Hassan Ali
9. Yasir Shah
10. Numan Ali
11. Shaheen Afridi/Muhammad Abbas

 

[shamaan]

Well let's see Roach has injury issues here and there. Let's see who they select as WI haven't announced their squad yet.

We have a tall batting order in my view and they can do the business.

My playing XI though:

1. Abid Ali (reluctant pick)
2. Imran Butt (reluctant pick)
3. Babar Azam(c)
4. Azhar Ali
5. Fawad Alam
6. Muhammad Rizwan
7. Faheem Ashraf
8. Hassan Ali
9. Yasir Shah
10. Numan Ali
11. Shaheen Afridi/Muhammad Abbas

I agree they will go with that line up but I would go with azhar opening and saud at 4.like you said our tail is decent with nuaman who is good enough to make sure the tail wags.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

I agree they will go with that line up but I would go with azhar opening and saud at 4.like you said our tail is decent with nuaman who is good enough to make sure the tail wags.

I would love for Azhar to open but it's a case of if he's your no. 3/4 then keep him there as oppose to opening. Openers have been selected so they need to be utilised, Abid and Imran have been nowhere near impressive how Abid Ali has made it into the top 40 ICC test rankings is a joke. Imran in the lack of batting he brings, his fielding is just exceptional.

 

[U$ofA]

This should be titled the Reluctant Test "series". Firstly, I don't think 2 tests can be called a series. Secondly, the boards of the two teams are the biggest culprits when it comes to cancelling tests.

I am sure if they can get away with it, they will cancel even these two tests and play another 3 t20's.

 

[Inswinging Yorker]

Pakistan definitely better than West Indies by leaps and bounds when it comes to test cricket. I expect them to win the series as much as 2-0

 

[ElRaja]

a specialist fielder for an opener and a bowling attack that is not guaranteed to take 40 wickets over two tests, can see both teams doing stupid stuff and losing one test.

 

[Saj]

I've gone for 1-0 to Pakistan.

I just think with the pitches the way they are these days in the Caribbean, Pakistan will edge it.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

I've gone for 1-0 to Pakistan.

I just think with the pitches the way they are these days in the Caribbean, Pakistan will edge it.

That's what i've been curious about, it looks a pretty dead wicket to me. Don't even think the Dukes will do much.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

West Indies had had shown signs of revival in the 2016-2020 period but they look extremely poor now. Pakistan, on the other hand, look like a team on the ascendancy. Pakistan to win 2-0 , rain permitting.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

0-0

Rained off.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

0-0

Rained off.

I don't know why i laughed at this lol

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

As for most series involving Pakistan since Kamran Akmal, fielding will decide the outcome.

 

[Amjid Javed]

WI bowlers will be licking their lips are pakistan walking wicket openers. we cant keep expecting to play just 5 front line batsmen when we have 2 poor openers as this will be sorely exposed.

 

[Firebat]

The Windies squad: Kraigg Brathwaite (Captain), Jermaine Blackwood (Vice Captain), Nkrumah Bonner, Shamarh Brooks, Rahkeem Cornwall, Roston Chase, Joshua Da Silva, Jahmar Hamilton, Chemar Holder, Jason Holder, Shai Hope, Alzarri Joseph, Kyle Mayers, Kieran Powell, Kemar Roach, Jayden Seales, Jomel Warrican

No Shannon Gabriel or Darren Bravo for the hosts. Surely this is a beatable side for Pakistan?

 

[Shoaibbtt]

The Windies squad: Kraigg Brathwaite (Captain), Jermaine Blackwood (Vice Captain), Nkrumah Bonner, Shamarh Brooks, Rahkeem Cornwall, Roston Chase, Joshua Da Silva, Jahmar Hamilton, Chemar Holder, Jason Holder, Shai Hope, Alzarri Joseph, Kyle Mayers, Kieran Powell, Kemar Roach, Jayden Seales, Jomel Warrican

No Shannon Gabriel or Darren Bravo for the hosts. Surely this is a beatable side for Pakistan?

It was beatable before as well. The thing to look at is that South Africa were a relatively inexperienced squad and the only one to give a challenge was SL and they drew that series, so with the domestic experience some of our Pak players possess what kinda chance does WI have?

 

[Firebat]

If the weather plays ball, I am hoping for a 2-0 to Pakistan. We will not get more favourable series in a WTC cycle like this one, so we need to make the most of it. Each series is vital.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

If the weather plays ball, I am hoping for a 2-0 to Pakistan. We will not get more favourable series in a WTC cycle like this one, so we need to make the most of it. Each series is vital.

We could get a result for both but i think 1st match might be drawn with the second having a result (if weather holds up inshAllah).

 

[Mesozoic]

All will depend on conditions as both teams are evenly matched at the moment.

If Sabina Park is as seam friendly as it was when India played here in 2019, then I'd expect WI to clich the series 1-0 (one game rained off) as they have a better seam attack with Roach, Holder and Joseph.

If it's dry and slow turning, Pak should win this comfortably with Yasir taking at least 2 fifers.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

All will depend on conditions as both teams are evenly matched at the moment.

If Sabina Park is as seam friendly as it was when India played here in 2019, then I'd expect WI to clich the series 1-0 (one game rained off) as they have a better seam attack with Roach, Holder and Joseph.

If it's dry and slow turning, Pak should win this comfortably with Yasir taking at least 2 fifers.

It offers something for everyone. The average of batting first is good as well, my opinion is bat first put on a big 300+ score and that’ll put WI on the back foot.

 

[shamaan]

It offers something for everyone. The average of batting first is good as well, my opinion is bat first put on a big 300+ score and that’ll put WI on the back foot.

I would always bowl first unless thiers no movement at all then I'd bat first for example lords or in asain conditions

 

[Shoaibbtt]

I would always bowl first unless thiers no movement at all then I'd bat first for example lords or in asain conditions

Only reason i said bat first is because of the average first innings score which is good on this pitch, being last to bat is no good.

 

[street cricketer]

Depends on the nature of the wickets.

Fast and bouncy wickets will probably give the Windies quicks a slight advantage while slow and turning wickets will play into Pakistan's hands.

Exactly to my prediction.

People seem to have underestimated the progress the Windies have made in Test cricket in the recent months with their new found strategy of preparing seamer friendly wickets.

Their pacers are not the quickest, but guys like Roach and Holder are very experienced and even newer recruits like Seales and Joseph know how to bowl in their conditions. Traditional low bouncing spinning wickets would've given advantage to Pakistan but bouncy and pacy wickets would give a slight advantage to Windies (only slight because Windies batting is not great either) due to home advantage.

2nd test can go either way because Pakistan also has the tools to win on these wickets, but it was never going to be a whitewash in favour of Pakistan.

 

[moghul]

As long as Pakistan has to carry some dead weights like Azhar and Abid Ali, forget about winning.