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Predict the outcome of the Pakistan vs New Zealand T20I series

Predict the outcome of the Pakistan vs New Zealand T20I series

  • Pakistan 3-0

    Votes: 18 47.4%

  • Pakistan 2-1

    Votes: 20 52.6%

  • New Zealand 3-0

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • New Zealand 2-1

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    38
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Pakistan pretty much dominating Australia but will they do same for New Zealand?
 
with Guptil out, i don't see them competing either. it will be 3-0 T20's, 2-1 ODi's and 3-0 tests.
 
Irrelevant - Only Pakistan play their full strength side every game even if the opposition was the likes of Scotland, Zimbabwe and Ireland.

The fact that the other teams don't T20I bilaterals seriously makes all these wild celebrations so cringe worthy.

Pakistan's batting have put up below par scores in every game in this series but because they're up against an even worse batting order that can't play spin.

T20Is should be an opportunity to test new players in order to develop ODI teams in the future. The vast majority of the first team players gain nothing from playing under strength teams and minnows.
 
Another 3-0 or 2-1 coming up here. Even this team can't win every match.
 
topspin said:
Irrelevant - Only Pakistan play their full strength side every game even if the opposition was the likes of Scotland, Zimbabwe and Ireland.

The fact that the other teams don't T20I bilaterals seriously makes all these wild celebrations so cringe worthy.

Pakistan's batting have put up below par scores in every game in this series but because they're up against an even worse batting order that can't play spin.

T20Is should be an opportunity to test new players in order to develop ODI teams in the future. The vast majority of the first team players gain nothing from playing under strength teams and minnows.
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Read the title of this thread - add your prediction.
 
2-1 to Pakistan. If occasionally Babar fails, this lineup doesn't give me a good confidence on UAE wickets.
 
3-0 again.

Although the Kiwis will be better but I still back our guys to win each game.
 
topspin said:
Irrelevant - Only Pakistan play their full strength side every game even if the opposition was the likes of Scotland, Zimbabwe and Ireland.

The fact that the other teams don't T20I bilaterals seriously makes all these wild celebrations so cringe worthy.

Pakistan's batting have put up below par scores in every game in this series but because they're up against an even worse batting order that can't play spin.

T20Is should be an opportunity to test new players in order to develop ODI teams in the future. The vast majority of the first team players gain nothing from playing under strength teams and minnows.
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well,they did put in a few new players here and there.Shaheen,Usman,Farhan,Asif
 
topspin said:
Irrelevant - Only Pakistan play their full strength side every game even if the opposition was the likes of Scotland, Zimbabwe and Ireland.

The fact that the other teams don't T20I bilaterals seriously makes all these wild celebrations so cringe worthy.

Pakistan's batting have put up below par scores in every game in this series but because they're up against an even worse batting order that can't play spin.

T20Is should be an opportunity to test new players in order to develop ODI teams in the future. The vast majority of the first team players gain nothing from playing under strength teams and minnows.
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:sree Do everyone a favor and stop watching T20Is since they are irrelevant. But i bet you will be here during the NZ series as well and more :ssmith ridiculous.
 
topspin said:
Irrelevant - Only Pakistan play their full strength side every game even if the opposition was the likes of Scotland, Zimbabwe and Ireland.

The fact that the other teams don't T20I bilaterals seriously makes all these wild celebrations so cringe worthy.

Pakistan's batting have put up below par scores in every game in this series but because they're up against an even worse batting order that can't play spin.

T20Is should be an opportunity to test new players in order to develop ODI teams in the future. The vast majority of the first team players gain nothing from playing under strength teams and minnows.
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This is Australia’s best T20 lineup barring Smith and Warner. Players like Lynn, Short, Finch, and Maxwell and McDermott have high strike rates and T20 stars. Few even play various leagues too. Can we not accept that they were simply not good enough for Pakistan in these conditions and move on?
 
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3-0 To Pakistan. New Zealand does struggle a lot when playing away from home.
 
topspin said:
Irrelevant - Only Pakistan play their full strength side every game even if the opposition was the likes of Scotland, Zimbabwe and Ireland.

The fact that the other teams don't T20I bilaterals seriously makes all these wild celebrations so cringe worthy.

Pakistan's batting have put up below par scores in every game in this series but because they're up against an even worse batting order that can't play spin.

T20Is should be an opportunity to test new players in order to develop ODI teams in the future. The vast majority of the first team players gain nothing from playing under strength teams and minnows.
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Also the World T20 is in Australia so the pitches will be different to these as well.
 
Pakistan should beat NZ on these pitches. But I think NZ will give a better fight than Australia.
 
New Zealand are generally a far better touring side than Australia. However, without Guptill, I don't see them winning more than one game.
 
Hasan123 said:
Also the World T20 is in Australia so the pitches will be different to these as well.
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Can you imagine if we go into Australia with Hafeez, Sarfraz and Malik? All woeful batsmen on fast pitches.
 
topspin said:
Can you imagine if we go into Australia with Hafeez, Sarfraz and Malik? All woeful batsmen on fast pitches.
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You do realize the WC is close to two years away right? Or were you aloof of that fact?


The team changed thrice in this series alone and you are predicting same team 2 years from now.


#PP experts
 
Syed1 said:
You do realize the WC is close to two years away right? Or were you aloof of that fact?


The team changed thrice in this series alone and you are predicting same team 2 years from now.


#PP experts
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They intend to play on till 2020 or were you aloof of this fact may I ask? and that Pakistan has a very strong seniority culture?

#typicalPPhypebrigade
 
I think new Zealand will win everything with Pakistan winning a few games. New Zealand has better players of spin than australia and we don't even play 2 spinners so new Zealand will easily win the tests. Their t20 players are also in form and our team depends on babar too much.
 
Glenn Phillips back in the runs, confident of Black Caps upset over red hot Pakistan

Fresh off a confidence-boosting innings, Glenn Phillips declared the Black Caps "more than a fighting chance" as they eye one of international cricket's most daunting tasks.

Ahead of his first Twenty20 international since January, the 21-year-old opener cracked 48 off 36 balls in New Zealand's solitary warmup match: a 37-run win over the United Arab Emirates in Abu Dhabi on Monday (NZT).

Meanwhile up the road in Dubai, Pakistan were teaching Australia another lesson, completing a 3-0 T20 sweep to extend their winning streak to a remarkable 10 successive series under captain Sarfraz Ahmed.

It looks mission improbable for the Black Caps in game one on Thursday (5am NZT), playing their first international in almost seven months against the world's top-ranked T20 side in full flight.

But Phillips insisted there were grounds for optimism as he reunites with Colin Munro at the top, for the injured Martin Guptill.

"Conditions have been a little tricky now and again and adapting to them is the key for us. Having that T20 series win against Pakistan A was a real confidence boost for our boys knowing we can win away from home," Phillips said.

"I reckon we've got the team to upset Pakistan and if we bring everything together and work hard we'll be able to pull out our best performance."

Phillips, Mark Chapman, Corey Anderson, Tim Seifert, Lockie Ferguson all joined the Black Caps' 13-man squad after playing for New Zealand A in their 2-1 T20 series win over Pakistan A.

After being shot out for 65 in game one, NZA won the next two with Phillips hitting 53 off 44 balls then an unbeaten 69 off 50 to confirm a recall for his ninth T20 international and first since the home Pakistan series in January.

Then in the three one-day matches NZA lost 3-0 with Phillips lasting a combined seven deliveries for three ducks. In two of those he was removed by the giant Mohammad Irfan.

Clearly T20 is Phillips' game, and dealing with the Pakistan spin threat led by Shadab Khan on two-paced pitches is the challenge for the New Zealand batsmen this week.

"Every team has a weakness and if we play to our best potential I'm sure we can be more than a fighting chance to win this series," he said.

"In terms of how they're bowling at the moment they're not really turning it much, it's more the fact they're so accurate. If we can find ways to get off strike and keep rotating we've got the power in our lineup to take any bowler down."

With the bat Chapman was effective, retiring on 36 off 25 balls, while Seifert blasted 29 off 18 at the end.

Captain Kane Williamson was run out for 11 while Munro (9) and Colin de Grandhomme (1) missed a chance for significant knocks ahead of the three-match series.

Fast bowler Ferguson and allrounder Anderson both sat out the UAE match after playing for NZA, with Ferguson at least looking a strong chance of featuring in game one.

AT A GLANCE

Warmup Twenty20 match in Abu Dhabi:

New Zealand 161-4 off 20 overs (Glenn Phillips 48 off 36, Mark Chapman 36* off 25, Tim Seifert 29* off 18) beat United Arab Emirates 124-8 off 20 overs (Fahad Nawaz 22 off 19; Ish Sodhi 2-11 off 3, Tim Southee 2-24 off 4) by 37 runs.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/crick...the-runs-as-black-caps-beat-uae-in-t20-warmup
 
mastersaan10 said:
I think new Zealand will win everything with Pakistan winning a few games. New Zealand has better players of spin than australia and we don't even play 2 spinners so new Zealand will easily win the tests. Their t20 players are also in form and our team depends on babar too much.
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I see what you are trying to do here.
 
It doesn't even matter.

We will strangle almost any side on these ultra slow, low, lifeless pitches. Our bowlers and accumulators like Sarfraz, Malik, are ideal for these slow turners.

BUT, you won't encounter such pitches in Australia, England, SA, IND (yes yes, I know we won in ENG etc). Or in World T20. The only thing that matters in T20s i the World T20. Ranking is meaningless. Any side can win on their day.

It's too much of a gamble - just need one person to click.


Hasan123 said:
Pakistan should beat NZ on these pitches. But I think NZ will give a better fight than Australia.
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topspin said:
Can you imagine if we go into Australia with Hafeez, Sarfraz and Malik? All woeful batsmen on fast pitches.
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Agreed.
 
He will struggle in the uae he couldnt play our bowlers in his own backyard so less said the better.
 
Syed1 said:
You do realize the WC is close to two years away right? Or were you aloof of that fact?


The team changed thrice in this series alone and you are predicting same team 2 years from now.


#PP experts
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So, you're accepting that we'll get a thrashing on batting pitches with Sarfraz, Malik?

If you are, then I congratulate you for seeing things objectively, finally.
 
Hawkeye said:
So, you're accepting that we'll get a thrashing on batting pitches with Sarfraz, Malik?

If you are, then I congratulate you for seeing things objectively, finally.
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Where did I say that? Need to go get your eyes checked.
 
Syed1 said:
Rich coming from you, you were crying when Pak won a series.


Amazing "fans"
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I don't think any country has as many self-hating "fans"...

And then ofcourse they'll let us know how grounded in reality they are by not celebrating T20 wins and constantly letting us know how every player is a bits and pieces player and how Pakistan will never become a world-class team in their life-time
 
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If our middle order bats the way it did against Australia then I’m predicting a 2-1 win for NZ. If they play more sensibly then 3-0 Pakistan.
 
Our batting looked shaky against Australia if I'm honest. I have a feeling NZ will be a tougher series but I reckon we can win 2-1, it's going to be a very competitive series though.
 
NZ will be a tougher test for Pakistan - 2-1 in Pak favour.
 
Hasan123 said:
More than likely all 3 will go.
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The only good thing that will come out of that tournament is when we finally see the day they'll be axed from Pakistan team for good and the 100 or so committee meetings to follow on the short comings :P

Until we pick a young captain and give him 4-5 years to develop the side, the seniority culture is here to stay especially now with MHK in the committee motoring his mouth citing Sarfraz's "youth and inexperience" the reason for why he needs to be replaced as skipper.
 
topspin said:
The only good thing that will come out of that tournament is when we finally see the day they'll be axed from Pakistan team for good and the 100 or so committee meetings to follow on the short comings :P

Until we pick a young captain and give him 4-5 years to develop the side, the seniority culture is here to stay especially now with MHK in the committee motoring his mouth citing Sarfraz's "youth and inexperience" the reason for why he needs to be replaced as skipper.
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We always say if we do badly, players will not return
Usually they are returned or more TTFs are selected.
 
Can Pakistan make it 11 series wins in a row?
 
This will be a tight win for Pakistan but win they will.
 
I think the series will finish 3-0 to Pakistan but the scoreline won't reflect how well New Zealand will compete.

A bit like India's 4-1 in England.
 
Will the 3-0 guys step up and confirm their choice again?
 
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