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Predict the outcome of the Test series between New Zealand and Pakistan?

Predict the outcome of the Test series between New Zealand and Pakistan?


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New Zealand are regarded as firm favourites ahead of the 2 match Test series on home soil against a Pakistan side that is missing Babar Azam in the first match.

While New Zealand are favourites, you never know what to expect from Pakistan.

So what do you think will be the outcome of the series?
 
2-0 to New Zealand. I'll be really happy with anything else. To be honest, I'll be happy if we manage to avoid two innings defeats. Just look at the batting lineup for the first test.
 
One innings defeat, and one regular defeat. Abid Ali will flop across all 4 innings. Shan will have 2 decent or good innings out of 4.

Azhar will fail in his first innings, though do better over the course of the series.

Babar won’t play the second test either.

Imran Butt will get his Test debut, but will be the subject of various threads on PP criticizing his front foot heavy technique and difficulty playing bounce. He will have an underwhelming series, with people left wondering why he was selected at all - this will lead to digging into his domestic stats from this season, which suggest he was never anything special to begin with.

Haris Sohail will fail in 4 out of 4 innings, or possibly retire unfit at some point in this series, missing one or both matches.

Fawad Alam will be reliant on the moving ball being seen out reliably by the top order. Should this fail to happen, or should he get to the second new ball, he will be bundled out immediately.

Mohammad Rizwan will do well as a keeper, as well as as a batsman trying to rebuild the innings.

Yasir Shah will play instead of Zafar Gohar, though there won’t be any heroics with the bat this time. He’ll perform decently with the ball.

Abbas will be our leading wicket taker.

Shaheen will have an unspectacular series, leading to questions about his workload. His second Test will go better than his first.

Naseem will do well in the second innings of both Tests, but it will be too late by then. If, indeed, there is a New Zealand second innings.
 
New Zealand to win their 3rd consecutive test series against Pakistan convincingly. In the last two series between these two teams, NZ won 4 matches, Pakistan only 1. Looks like it will be 6-1 to NZ by the end of this series.
 
Without Babar this team stands zero chance .

This team will struggle to put a team total of 100
Would be surprised if they can reach 100 without losing 5 wickets
 
Anything other than a 2-0 loss will be an achievement of sorts.

The NZ squad looks settled and established, while Pakistan's looks weak in the batting department.
 
With Babar and Imam not playing the first test, realistically the XI is probably gonna be:

Shan, Abid, Azhar, Haris, Fawad, Rizwan, Shadab, Faheem, Shaheen, Yasir, Abbas.

I am not looking forward to this test series to be quite honest. At best, I'm just in it for personal player performances and the experiences they may gather. In that regard, I'm looking forward to seeing the performances of Shan, Rizwan, Shadab, Faheem, and Shaheen. 2-0 to NZ. Also, this might be a dumb question, but when was Naseem pulled out of the squad? Did he get injured, or did management decide that he'd not partake in the 1st test?
 
We have seen glimpses of our bowlers, but nothing concrete. This is the last chance to show what we're made of and challenge a dominant side.

We should give it our all and play the best team we can. We should not be in a situation where we lost due to our selection.

I have hope that we will do something, but let's see if our players understand what they are playing for.
 
inshAllah we do well but even if we manage to draw the series at best or win 1 match i'll take that as a positive. Just don't get dominated like the WI did in their series.

Hopefully, Pakistan play this smart. It's just about understanding the conditions and I think with NZ it will be the first few days will be good for batting so the toss will be important in my view. Last thing you wanna do is chase.

I'd say that the plus is that you are playing the Kookaburra so some of the boys will be familiar on how to play that type of ball as oppose to Dukes. I reckon if you start slow, rough up the ball get those bowlers tired and then start playing your shots you will see success and you can see that with how Fawad and Rohail played in the practise game. Don't be fearful of having a SR in the 20s or 30s to begin with.
 
Gone are the days where we might just play out of our skins and pull of an away Test win.

We are currently in a phase where we cannot predict a comfortable home win, let alone an away win in New Zealand.

2-0 NZ
 
Pakistan must bowl first to have any chance they should play 4 fast bowlers and shadab as a batting all rounder.if they can draw a test that be very good
 
A Pakistan side with Misbah as coach has very little chance of pulling off anything but a 2-0 loss.

I'd probably be more interested in seeing how the Shaheens get on.
 
Pakistan must bowl first to have any chance they should play 4 fast bowlers and shadab as a batting all rounder.if they can draw a test that be very good

Everyone agrees, but Misbah will still pick Yasir Shah on the greenest of green tops.
 
Winning against New Zealand is not impossible, it depends on 3 major factors:

The opening stand - If our openers can put up a 50 or 100 run stand up front, we'll have pushed New Zealand on the back foot from the get-go. When the ball becomes soft, runs come naturally and the likes of Kyle Jamieson are yet to bowl to batsmen who are readily settled on the crease. Everything comes with time, and Pakistan need to use this. Masood needs to be at his best like that 150 against England, leave everything which doesn't need to be hit. Defend everything that will threaten the bat.

Seamers - We need to go in with 4 seamers, it's an absolute must. If needed, play Shadab as a spin option to fall back on, but 4 seamers is the only way to compete in New Zealand. If it were up to me, I'd play Amad, Faheem, Shaheen, and Abbas. Naseem is unlikely to make a huge difference, so I'd try out Amad and see what he can produce. Pace is not needed in New Zealand, the ball will swing at just about the 130kph mark, so accuracy and consistency is much more needed.

Batting down the order - Our tailenders and all-rounders have to accumulate runs. This is the difference between a 250 score and a 350 score. If we can stitch partnerships down the order, we have a good chance to post better totals. This is another reason why I'd play both Amad and Faheem, they can at least give 30-40 runs combined.

If all goes well, we can win 1 out of 2 games, and settle for a draw.

The weakest links in our batting are Abid Ali and the batsman who replaces Babar. Fawad did well against the A team, and should look to score runs here.
 
Winning against New Zealand is not impossible, it depends on 3 major factors:

The opening stand - If our openers can put up a 50 or 100 run stand up front, we'll have pushed New Zealand on the back foot from the get-go. When the ball becomes soft, runs come naturally and the likes of Kyle Jamieson are yet to bowl to batsmen who are readily settled on the crease. Everything comes with time, and Pakistan need to use this. Masood needs to be at his best like that 150 against England, leave everything which doesn't need to be hit. Defend everything that will threaten the bat.

Seamers - We need to go in with 4 seamers, it's an absolute must. If needed, play Shadab as a spin option to fall back on, but 4 seamers is the only way to compete in New Zealand. If it were up to me, I'd play Amad, Faheem, Shaheen, and Abbas. Naseem is unlikely to make a huge difference, so I'd try out Amad and see what he can produce. Pace is not needed in New Zealand, the ball will swing at just about the 130kph mark, so accuracy and consistency is much more needed.

Batting down the order - Our tailenders and all-rounders have to accumulate runs. This is the difference between a 250 score and a 350 score. If we can stitch partnerships down the order, we have a good chance to post better totals. This is another reason why I'd play both Amad and Faheem, they can at least give 30-40 runs combined.

If all goes well, we can win 1 out of 2 games, and settle for a draw.

The weakest links in our batting are Abid Ali and the batsman who replaces Babar. Fawad did well against the A team, and should look to score runs here.

Add into the equation that Abid looks out of shape and you have Haris who has questionable fitness at the moment.
 
Boys are preparing very well so i voted Newzealand :inzi
 
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NZ 2-0 is a given.. I’m just fearing a 35 all out in one of the 4 innings. Masood & co will give catching practice if there’s any movement in the pitch.
 
NZ 2-0 is a given.. I’m just fearing a 35 all out in one of the 4 innings. Masood & co will give catching practice if there’s any movement in the pitch.

2-0 is a certainty and it will most likely be drubbings, but we won't get bundled out for that much.
 
i dont think an asian team has won a test in new zealand for 10 years, and this team is fairly weak, esp without babar.
 
I look at Pakistan's batting and on paper it appears to be a disaster waiting to happen. There are players struggling for form, while others are past their best, whilst others are looking to establish themselves.

It's a combination that could go horribly wrong.
 
I look at Pakistan's batting and on paper it appears to be a disaster waiting to happen. There are players struggling for form, while others are past their best, whilst others are looking to establish themselves.

It's a combination that could go horribly wrong.

Teams in the past have been in this very position. We look at some of the greatest players who made their names in situations like this.

It's not too difficult to understand what the batsmen have to do. They need to just slow things down and wait for an opportunity to capitalize. Pitches in New Zealand aren't as tricky later on as opposed to when the ball is still new. Patience and grit are needed to avoid flirting with balls which should be left.

From my understanding, New Zealand will have a game plan against our team already. There are a lot of loose ends like you mentioned, but I'll give a run-down of what they'll do.

For Abid Ali, they'll either bounce him a lot up front and then push one away from him to tempt the drive, or they might get Boult to angle the ball across like Curran did and open up the outside edge.

Southee will target Masood's pads, but he's even more dangerous with the one that swings past the outside edge. He will be the trickiest bowler to negotiate, so Pakistan need to hope that there isn't too much swing on offer and that they can block the ball well.

Azhar Ali will most likely be targeted on the pads again, though it will probably be Boult who does this with the natural length and swing.

Whoever our no.4 is will probably be a domestic player who hasn't faced international level bowling and will nick the ball.

Fawad Alam will almost certainly be targeted on the pads as well as the outside edge, though he might be one of the key factors for Pakistan given that he did well against the A team.

Haris Sohail is also a very big questionmark, as he will most certainly nick the one that swings away from his bat. He can be a good batsman if he allows himself to settle in and avoid playing at balls that should be left.

Rizwan is probably our only batsman who looks like he can threaten the New Zealand bowlers. He doesn't have a noticeably weakness as of now due to a small sample size, but he is vulnerable early on in his innings, so expect the best bowlers to come on when he comes out to bat.

To conclude, we have a batting line-up with a lot of potential weaknesses which New Zealand can exploit, but most can be eliminated if our batsmen take time and negotiate the moving ball well, by leaving when necessary and avoiding and unnecessary drives. If we do this, we will almost certainly change the scope and outlook for the batting, because New Zealand are unlikely to trouble us with the old ball. The question is if we can reach the old ball without losing too many wickets.
 
Feeling a little optimistic about Pakistan's Test chances
 
Draw or Pakistan win. Stupid declaration by NZ and epic batting by Pakistan. I’m not sure if India can survive for this long in 4th innings. I’m fact I’m sure India can’t.
 
1-1 is quite possible - the gulf between teams isnt that great.
 
1-1 is quite possible - the gulf between teams isnt that great.

I am leaning towards it too. There is hope!

With Baber Azam being back in the team and hoping that they will show better match awareness and better focus.
Obviously Fawad won't always play such a role in every innings.

We must rely on good over all plan and a combined team effort.
 
To defeat the likes of eng ind nz aus you need to score 350+ runs & take 20 wckts

Pak fail miserably on both counts hence 2-0 coming up!
 
Without Azhar Ali scoring we are not going to win any test. He was the only player in the 11 who had the habit of scoring big hundreds but he seems to have lost it. Haris Sohail doesn’t have the stamina to score big, so he’ll never be a good test player. The less said about the openers the better. That leaves us only with Fawad Alam and Rizwan and you can’t win test matches with only two batsmen.

Hoping anything good from our bowling is chasing a mirage. We have inexperience pacers in Shaheen (arguably the best bowler in our team) and Naseem. Abbas is still fresh in the test circuit (compared to other bowling spearheads in the international cricket) and his form is a worrying sign right now. And Yasir Shah is Yasir Shah.

So I’m not very optimistic about our chances.
 
Pak lost the test due to their own mistakes in batting and fielding. They could have easily drawn the test at very least having reached within 4 overs after Fawad and Rizwan heroic contributions.
 
Pak lost the test due to their own mistakes in batting and fielding. They could have easily drawn the test at very least having reached within 4 overs after Fawad and Rizwan heroic contributions.

Yes, the great Pak bowling kept you compititive till the last session in day 5, poor batting lost you the game, right?

Man some of you guys will go to any length defending your bowling even when their harmlessness was clearer than daylight.
 
I have a feeling Pakistan will lose the next toss and if they do they'll have no chance.

It's easy to forget how green that wicket was on day 1l, especially the morning session, so it was a huge advantage to bowl first, yet NZ still won.

If Pakistan do win the toss and make it 5 from 5 in the series, then it will be closer, but NZ should still have too much class.
 
Yes, the great Pak bowling kept you compititive till the last session in day 5, poor batting lost you the game, right?

Man some of you guys will go to any length defending your bowling even when their harmlessness was clearer than daylight.

If they had held thier catches the score wouldnt have been that score they scored
 
Babar being fit was the only thing that could have given us a chance of avoiding a 2-0.

Sadly, 2-0 to NZ on the cards.
 
Afraid signs not good - quickly reducing to 2 options

2-0 NZ or a Draw and 1-0 to NZ
 
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