Preference in match scheduling given to India vs other teams in ICC tournaments

[Gullycricket]

I have been seeing this trend from 2011 WC (which was "designed" to ensure something like 2007 WC elimnation doesn't repeat) that India gets a favorable scheduling in comparison to other teams. So mostly we will see India having ample rest against big teams (streching upto a week) and lesser travelling.

I get it if it was done on rotational basis for all teams but I have seen mostly the schedule revolving around India.Take the example of this T20 WC

India is getting week's rest to play NZ and they play all or most of their matches in Dubai while as most teams have to travel around with lesser turnaround time. Even in 2015 WC India played none of its matches in NZ while as other teams needed to go back and forth both countries (Aus, NZ).

It may not seem much but proper rest and less travel fatigue can improve their chances every tournament which as I see ICC wants. But I want such benefits to apply to the host teams and not always India.

Want to know posters thoughts here.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Not sure what the reason is for this but if there was any favoritism involved India and not Pakistan would have got a full ODI series to acclimatize in England just before the 2019 WC. Same with NZ getting a test series in England right before the WTC final. India, on the other hand, played their England tests after the WTC final.

 

[Gullycricket]

Not sure what the reason is for this but if there was any favoritism involved India and not Pakistan would have got a full ODI series to acclimatize in England just before the 2019 WC. Same with NZ getting a test series in England right before the WTC final. India, on the other hand, played their England tests after the WTC final.

Even India got a tri series and a separate series against Aussies just before 2015 WC. It's fine if different teams get chances to fine tune their team. But I have never seen such courtesies being applied in ICC tournaments to other teams

 

[JattMaula]

Not sure what the reason is for this but if there was any favoritism involved India and not Pakistan would have got a full ODI series to acclimatize in England just before the 2019 WC. Same with NZ getting a test series in England right before the WTC final. India, on the other hand, played their England tests after the WTC final.

I am seeing a pattern here brother. Is BCCICC conspiring against bcci!

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Good observation. I had a re-look at the schedule again and punched that data into excel to see the gap days available to them.

India has the most spread days across matches.
Other teams like Australia/England/SA etc have some matches just 2 days apart but still couple of matches week apart with plenty of rest days.

The Most tight schedule belongs to Pakistan. Hardly more then 2-3 days of gap between their matches.
Very tight scheduling.
In fact their most important matches against top teams do no have much rest days between them.
Only on the fag end for matches against Scotland And Namibia they have a 4-5 days of gap.
It can work out in their favor if they start with a win and just carry that momentum. But it can be unforgiving also given UAE's heat etc.

 

[Swashbuckler]

Long gap can work against a team as well, as we see in tennis (remember how that cost Djokovic the 2016 US Open final), and life in general. More the rest days greater the chance of losing rhythm (for bowlers as well as batsmen in the form of timing), momentum, maybe even getting undercooked as opposed to battle-hardened etc. 24-48 hours rest is more than enough to recover in this short format, I remember Asia Cup 2018 where we played Pakistan next day after our opening fixture and we did well.

Another trend I don't like in recent times is India playing all tough opponents first up and then the minnows + weaker sides just before KO. As a result we lose intensity (and inability to gauge our actual level, form, team combo) before KO and tend to underperform.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

The same pathetic narrative was also given before the 2019 WC.
So the 1 hr or so bus travel from Dubai to Sharjah or Abu dhabi will have a counter effect on every team - in that case what happens when those 'travelled' teams face each other, dont they start off with the same 'disadvantage'?
How about commenting on the TWO day semi final in 2019 WC in which the pitch changed character over two days ?not that i am making excuses, NZ won fair and square - but this was never discussed.
How about commenting on WTC finals - we came in cold and Nz had already played 2 tests, How about speculating on if the WTC finals was played in the middle of the Eng series and how this would have affected the game? Were'nt the conditions more NZ than India in the WTC finals?
End of the day as the inference is that we got an advantage, then the other teams are starting off with the 'same' disadvantage.
Truth is there is a massive lobby that has a 'One board is responsible for all that's evil in the world' chip on the shoulder, get off the its always someone else's fault gravy train, introspect and perform.
My 5c rant for the day

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

Long gap can work against a team as well, as we see in tennis (remember how that cost Djokovic the 2016 US Open final), and life in general. More the rest days greater the chance of losing rhythm (for bowlers as well as batsmen in the form of timing), momentum, maybe even getting undercooked as opposed to battle-hardened etc. 24-48 hours rest is more than enough to recover in this short format, I remember Asia Cup 2018 where we played Pakistan next day after our opening fixture and we did well.

Another trend I don't like in recent times is India playing all tough opponents first up and then the minnows + weaker sides just before KO. As a result we lose intensity before KO and tend to underperform.

U can bet that this wont ever be disucssed or highlighted, not that it needs to. Its a format, accept it. move on.
If you really wanted to see trends, then you could possibly dissect every WC or tri series and come out with every kind of format-pitches-weather-taxi-tea-coffee-the colour of the curtains in the hotel-whatever....to explain why team A won and b lost.
And yes, the gap between games can be counter productive - it can result in lost momentum - Some good points by you bro...

 

[drubwrubnat]

Since indian players are more likely to be the goose that lay the golden egg, some harmless benefits, a bit of preferential treatment here & there , shouldnt be read into too much.

If there one seat in the restaurant with the perfect view, it should be given to India rather than any other team.
Understandable. The boys do not abuse the privilege, they do behave respectful, more or less.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

Considering One team travelled to Eng consistently for about 3 consecutive years for 4 different series before the world cup in 2019 - Should'nt it have won it?

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Good observation. I had a re-look at the schedule again and punched that data into excel to see the gap days available to them.

India has the most spread days across matches.
Other teams like Australia/England/SA etc have some matches just 2 days apart but still couple of matches week apart with plenty of rest days.

The Most tight schedule belongs to Pakistan. Hardly more then 2-3 days of gap between their matches.
Very tight scheduling.
In fact their most important matches against top teams do no have much rest days between them.
Only on the fag end for matches against Scotland And Namibia they have a 4-5 days of gap.
It can work out in their favor if they start with a win and just carry that momentum. But it can be unforgiving also given UAE's heat etc.

Continuing with the analysis, here is the number of gap days for each team.
The most tight schedule is for Pakistan in the first 3 matches, which for them are important back to back matches against India/NZ/Afghanistan.

 

[Itachi]

India is an essential commodity for a world cup to be profitable. If India goes out, that world cup will be a failure (2007). ICC hence protects its utmost precious treasure.

 

[Gullycricket]

Long gap can work against a team as well, as we see in tennis (remember how that cost Djokovic the 2016 US Open final), and life in general. More the rest days greater the chance of losing rhythm (for bowlers as well as batsmen in the form of timing), momentum, maybe even getting undercooked as opposed to battle-hardened etc. 24-48 hours rest is more than enough to recover in this short format, I remember Asia Cup 2018 where we played Pakistan next day after our opening fixture and we did well.

Another trend I don't like in recent times is India playing all tough opponents first up and then the minnows + weaker sides just before KO. As a result we lose intensity (and inability to gauge our actual level, form, team combo) before KO and tend to underperform.

Good points. I agree it hasn't helped them to win anything yet but I felt it needs to be highlighted. It can go both ways too but it has its benefits. I just felt this schedule should apply to hosts . That way it will be in rotation. I know why ICC does it. To maximize viewership on weekends

 

[Gullycricket]

Considering One team travelled to Eng consistently for about 3 consecutive years for 4 different series before the world cup in 2019 - Should'nt it have won it?

Playing 2 match test series will result in going more to England. The point of this thread is the schedule should be applicable to hosts. About the two days semi final that was already decided based on reserve days. It's not like it was in NZ hands to bring rain. Here ICC can definitely schedule it better for hosts in every tournament. It's odd that Aus had to travel to NZ to play it's some matches and vice-versa for NZ but India didn't.

 

[Mamoon]

I have been seeing this trend from 2011 WC (which was "designed" to ensure something like 2007 WC elimnation doesn't repeat) that India gets a favorable scheduling in comparison to other teams. So mostly we will see India having ample rest against big teams (streching upto a week) and lesser travelling.

I get it if it was done on rotational basis for all teams but I have seen mostly the schedule revolving around India.Take the example of this T20 WC

India is getting week's rest to play NZ and they play all or most of their matches in Dubai while as most teams have to travel around with lesser turnaround time. Even in 2015 WC India played none of its matches in NZ while as other teams needed to go back and forth both countries (Aus, NZ).

It may not seem much but proper rest and less travel fatigue can improve their chances every tournament which as I see ICC wants. But I want such benefits to apply to the host teams and not always India.

Want to know posters thoughts here.

Yes, they get to pick and choose their own schedule because ICC is in BCCI’s lap. As a result, India is always benefiting.

The best part is that there is nothing that PCB and Pakistani fans can do about it, and that is wonderful.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

One good thing about Pakistan schedule is that if there is something on NRR, there last 2 matches are against associate sides. They can really push the NRR up in those games by playing aggressive cricket and score quick runs.

 

[Saj]

Sometimes playing again after a short gap can actually be an advantage rather than sitting around for 5, 6 or 7 days before your next match.

 

[IMMY69]

India is an essential commodity for a world cup to be profitable. If India goes out, that world cup will be a failure (2007). ICC hence protects its utmost precious treasure.

I would say you've hit the nail and it understandable why the ICC does it.
It would be financial suicide otherwise

 

[Nikhil_cric]

We are the hosts so we should get the schedule we want. I'm not sure the 2019 World Cup Schedule was favourable to us . We played our first game after everyone else and our average turnaround time was the least of all teams.

 

[Major]

Look at the grounds. Pakistan has to move around while india gets to play most of its matchs in the same ground.

This is the fault of pcb who do not mention these issues in icc meetings

 

[cricketjoshila]

Look at the grounds. Pakistan has to move around while india gets to play most of its matchs in the same ground.

This is the fault of pcb who do not mention these issues in icc meetings

India is the host. They can schedule their matches. Thats the benefit of being hosts.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

So basically all of the above scheduling, future tours programme, planning is a farce, and we might just about hand over the trophy to India , or do enough to ensure that India remains in the competition till the last ball of the 40th over in the finals....

So Basically, Every WC , triseries played so far was scheduled to our convenience.

What about 1983, 1985 World championship of cricket, a few junior WC's et al...

Why bother turning up in the first place? Am sure the trophy engravers jobs have become easier...
Whilst at it why bother tossing, the pitches, weather conditions et all?

 

[Major]

India is the host. They can schedule their matches. Thats the benefit of being hosts.

no they do not have any such benefits. Come out of your superiority complex.

You do not get to choose to play all matches in one place.

 

[Varun]

In 2015 we did play in NZ - Zimbabwe I think, who nearly beat us.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

One good thing about Pakistan schedule is that if there is something on NRR, there last 2 matches are against associate sides. They can really push the NRR up in those games by playing aggressive cricket and score quick runs.

Mate - that part of the bargain is never going to resonate or gain traction when minds are so fixated on one solid narrative

 

[Major]

Whats funny is that while bcci gets favourable schduling for its side, it is yet to win an icc tournament. I expect them to choke by the semis asper their usual tradition.

Maybe if they stop maneuvering would they be able to win something after such a long timr

 

[Major]

Yes, they get to pick and choose their own schedule because ICC is in BCCI’s lap. As a result, India is always benefiting.

The best part is that there is nothing that PCB and Pakistani fans can do about it, and that is wonderful.

This has got nothing to do with pcb or pakistan

This affects world cricket in general. Icc thr governing body is favouring a certain team just because of its finances and alot of others are at the opposite end of the side.
Governing body's job is to create a balance, not just favour one side. Its an icc tournament, not a bcci owned champions league.

To favor India, we have already abolished the tradition world cup format of having 4-6 groups of 4 teams each and the best 2 qualifying for the supers. Alot of nations were left out of cricket. And it affects everyone.

People present argument that bcci is making the money and they should be madesure to exist in the semis, but countriee oike sri lanka exist in cricket today because of a world cup tournament that allowed them to be an equal representation.

Its not about India at the end of the day, even India needs opponents to play against. We are slowly moving towards a Cricket structure where only indian fans would be catered to. ICC is self destroying itself and possibly we might just have domestic t20s going on in future

 

[cricketjoshila]

no they do not have any such benefits. Come out of your superiority complex.

You do not get to choose to play all matches in one place.

Yes we do. We are the hosts. We can decide which grounds we play in.

If you didn't check, check the schedule, India is getting the benefit already.

 

[Rajdeep]

ICC keep most India matches on weekends to maximise the revenues. I am sure BCCI dont ask for it as elongated break between matches can actually be bad in a T20 tournament. It breaks the momentum of a team. ICC makes this scheduling for their profit.

Why you think all Ind-Pak world cup matches are on a weekend?

 

[leonidas_alexandar]

This has got nothing to do with pcb or pakistan

This affects world cricket in general. Icc thr governing body is favouring a certain team just because of its finances and alot of others are at the opposite end of the side.
Governing body's job is to create a balance, not just favour one side. Its an icc tournament, not a bcci owned champions league.

To favor india, we have already abolished the tradition world cup format of having 4-6 groups of 4 teams each and the best 2 qualifying for the supers. Alot of nations were left out of cricket. And it affects everyone.

People present argument that bcci is making the money and they should be madesure to exist in the semis, but countriee oike sri lanka exist in cricket today because of a world cup tournament that allowed them to be an equal representation.

Its not about India at the end of the day, even India needs opponents to play against. We are slowly moving towards a fricket structure where only indian fans would be catered to. ICC is self destroying itself and possibly we might just have domestic t20s going on in future

There was never a "tradition" of having 4 to 6 groups in the first place in cricket. Unlike Football cricket does not have many elite teams competing. And as it happened in 2007 once India and Pakistan both got knocked out - the interest in the tournament fizzled. That 4 group things was a very poorly conceived format.

 

[leonidas_alexandar]

no they do not have any such benefits. Come out of your superiority complex.

You do not get to choose to play all matches in one place.

India do play Afghanistan in Abu Dhabi - the rest are all in Dubai.

 

[ARK Rafay]

'jis ki lathi us ki bhais'

We all know who is the most powerful and richest board at this point. The game is bound to have its influence. We are witnessing just that.

 

[Major]

Yes we do. We are the hosts. We can decide which grounds we play in.

If you didn't check, check the schedule, India is getting the benefit already.

You really need to bother to atleast check the posts in the thread before coming in defending ur board on an internet forum..

This thread and the posters here have already mentioned that india is getting benefit ot scheduling all games in one place, which is unfair.

And no, as a host you cannot choose to do that. What india has done has been done unfairly and obviously they got the icc to do this for them

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Misbah Ul Haq should apply for all ICC positions and right the wrongs.

 

[JattMaula]

'jis ki lathi us ki bhais'

We all know who is the most powerful and richest board at this point. The game is bound to have its influence. We are witnessing just that.

But actual Bhais is India. And Pakistan and other nations are milking us dry by making us play on weekends with week inbetween to maximize the profits (milk).

Cricket world suckles from our teat but curses us constantly. World is an unfair place.

 

[AMSS]

Yes India games are well spaced out for weekends because broadcaster/sponsors want most viewership for those matches and they pay big bucks for it.

Poor boards like PCB survive because of handouts from ICC as admitted by their chairman himself. How else can ICC handout monies to poor boards like Pakistan unless broadcasters are happy?

 

[AMSS]

So India games are spaced out for weekends and held at major venues because ICC members like Pakistan want to profit more from India.

It's not a favor to India but poorer boards like Pakistan.

 

[subbu]

Yes India games are well spaced out for weekends because broadcaster/sponsors want most viewership for those matches and they pay big bucks for it.

Poor boards like PCB survive because of handouts from ICC as admitted by their chairman himself. How else can ICC handout monies to poor boards like Pakistan unless broadcasters are happy?

and another example 2015 WC given as india played most of their matches in Australia
India got big matches in Australia as host want to generate maximum revenue with 60k -70k + capacity stadiums in AUS rather than 15k seat capacity stadiums in NZL..
Online tickets for Indian matches get sold in 1-2 hours

Btwn india played Zimbabwe and Ireland in New Zealand (2015;WC)

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

This has got nothing to do with pcb or pakistan

This affects world cricket in general. Icc thr governing body is favouring a certain team just because of its finances and alot of others are at the opposite end of the side.
Governing body's job is to create a balance, not just favour one side. Its an icc tournament, not a bcci owned champions league.

To favor india, we have already abolished the tradition world cup format of having 4-6 groups of 4 teams each and the best 2 qualifying for the supers. Alot of nations were left out of cricket. And it affects everyone.

People present argument that bcci is making the money and they should be madesure to exist in the semis, but countriee oike sri lanka exist in cricket today because of a world cup tournament that allowed them to be an equal representation.

Its not about India at the end of the day, even India needs opponents to play against. We are slowly moving towards a fricket structure where only indian fans would be catered to. ICC is self destroying itself and possibly we might just have domestic t20s going on in future

Can you give solid metrics and quantifiable proofs of that?

 

[Major]

Can you give solid metrics and quantifiable proofs of that?

compare 2007 world cup and 2011 world cup. Infact most of the indian posters here have mentioned how the format was changed to favour India. As in the super format they get more games to play and can easily enter the semis.

 

[JattMaula]

compare 2007 world cup and 2011 world cup. Infact most of the indian posters here have mentioned how the format was change to favour India. As in the super format they get more games to play and can easily enter the semis.

As opposed to other teams which get fewer matches?

 

[Saurav]

compare 2007 world cup and 2011 world cup. Infact most of the indian posters here have mentioned how the format was change to favour India. As in the super format they get more games to play and can easily enter the semis.

that helped Pak too

 

[U$ofA]

This has got nothing to do with pcb or pakistan

This affects world cricket in general. Icc thr governing body is favouring a certain team just because of its finances and alot of others are at the opposite end of the side.
Governing body's job is to create a balance, not just favour one side. Its an icc tournament, not a bcci owned champions league.

To favor India, we have already abolished the tradition world cup format of having 4-6 groups of 4 teams each and the best 2 qualifying for the supers. Alot of nations were left out of cricket. And it affects everyone.

People present argument that bcci is making the money and they should be madesure to exist in the semis, but countriee oike sri lanka exist in cricket today because of a world cup tournament that allowed them to be an equal representation.

Its not about India at the end of the day, even India needs opponents to play against. We are slowly moving towards a Cricket structure where only indian fans would be catered to. ICC is self destroying itself and possibly we might just have domestic t20s going on in future

I understand the points you are making. The ICC seems to have a primary goal to maximize $$$ in all it's tournaments. This also benefits all the teams as the distribution pot is large. I am sure the boards will not be complaining when the check comes in from the ICC.

For this to happen, the ICC uses India as a vehicle. That means catering to Indian fans on TV and in ground. So India gets to play on weekends and in prime time. This is reality in play. The real world.

Everyone has bills to pay including the ICC. They have plenty of employees with big titles and fat paychecks. Money has to come from somewhere.

I agree with you that the future is heading towards domestic T20 leagues being at the top of the food chain. Once could argue that we are already there.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

compare 2007 world cup and 2011 world cup. Infact most of the indian posters here have mentioned how the format was changed to favour India. As in the super format they get more games to play and can easily enter the semis.

What about 1983, 1985 World championship of Cricket?
What bout 2003 WC?
What about the U-19 WC's?

I asked you for solid metrics and to quantify the scheduling, movements - your've given generics.
Not explained in specifics how venue movement benefitted india or proved a disadvantage to other teams....and by other teams you are talking about 7-8 teams other than india in every tournament.
If format (two groups ) was changed to favour india, 1999 had a super 6 quailfier -did'nt u guys play the final?
If the Format (two groups) were changed to benefit India, can you explain how and why was it changed for 2019?
Please come up with specifics else stop banging the usual dhol tash nagade about how you guys are short changed every cricketing day of the year and how we benefit each time we step on the field.

 

[Major]

I understand the points you are making. The ICC seems to have a primary goal to maximize $$$ in all it's tournaments. This also benefits all the teams as the distribution pot is large. I am sure the boards will not be complaining when the check comes in from the ICC.

For this to happen, the ICC uses India as a vehicle. That means catering to Indian fans on TV and in ground. So India gets to play on weekends and in prime time. This is reality in play. The real world.

Everyone has bills to pay including the ICC. They have plenty of employees with big titles and fat paychecks. Money has to come from somewhere.

I agree with you that the future is heading towards domestic T20 leagues being at the top of the food chain. Once could argue that we are already there.

I think ICC needs to decide then, whether they want to make the sport global or not. At the end you are not gonna get more nations in this game.

 

[Ryw]

I have been seeing this trend from 2011 WC (which was "designed" to ensure something like 2007 WC elimnation doesn't repeat) that India gets a favorable scheduling in comparison to other teams. So mostly we will see India having ample rest against big teams (streching upto a week) and lesser travelling.

I get it if it was done on rotational basis for all teams but I have seen mostly the schedule revolving around India.Take the example of this T20 WC

India is getting week's rest to play NZ and they play all or most of their matches in Dubai while as most teams have to travel around with lesser turnaround time. Even in 2015 WC India played none of its matches in NZ while as other teams needed to go back and forth both countries (Aus, NZ).

It may not seem much but proper rest and less travel fatigue can improve their chances every tournament which as I see ICC wants. But I want such benefits to apply to the host teams and not always India.

Want to know posters thoughts here.

These are tactics to win a tournament, every host with power can plan these things according to their comfort. No one can challenge this, they are host, POWERFUL board, you will raise voice,you have to ready for consequences

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

These are tactics to win a tournament, every host with power can plan these things according to their comfort. No one can challenge this, they are host, POWERFUL board, you will raise voice,you have to ready for consequences

The 'host, very POWERFUL board' has also got some terrific awesome players who got there by dint of hard work and merit.
And not long ago, that same board was the same as several 'others' except they stopped whinging and blaming others for the sun refusing to shine, With their own efforts reached where they are.
And lastly the 'host, very POWERFUL board' also won in 80's when they were not the 'host, very POWERFUL board'
Amazing, how many boats can get floated.

 

[Swashbuckler]

Pretty sure India played a couple of pool matches in NZ in the 2015 WC.

So this part by OP is incorrect.

Even in 2015 WC India played none of its matches in NZ while as other teams needed to go back and forth both countries (Aus, NZ).

 

[NishanKonar]

compare 2007 world cup and 2011 world cup. Infact most of the indian posters here have mentioned how the format was changed to favour India. As in the super format they get more games to play and can easily enter the semis.

Thats bcoz the 2007 WC was financial disaster as India got knocked out early

Hence the format was changed to ensure India does not get knocked out early. That's bcoz India generates majority of ICC income. IF India gets out early , it hurts ICC income and that hurts all other cricket boards including PCB which gets a big chunk off its revenue from ICC ( as Ramiz himself said )

In cricket the finances are lopsided and so ICC has no choice but to cater to India. Its not a good practice but that's how the game can sustain itself financially

 

[NishanKonar]

A good example is how Olympics are always scheduled in Jul-Aug to cater tp US tv broadcasters as they contribute the biggest pie of Olympic revenue. Even the scheduling is done to suit US tv audiences. The problem is its impossible to host Olympics outside this window which makes it difficult for many countries tto host Olympics like Middle East or South Asia as its too hot in Jul-Aug

Mind you - US contribution % to Olympics revenue is much lower than India's contribution to ICC

 

[Major]

Thats bcoz the 2007 WC was financial disaster as India got knocked out early

Hence the format was changed to ensure India does not get knocked out early. That's bcoz India generates majority of ICC income. IF India gets out early , it hurts ICC income and that hurts all other cricket boards including PCB which gets a big chunk off its revenue from ICC ( as Ramiz himself said )

In cricket the finances are lopsided and so ICC has no choice but to cater to India. Its not a good practice but that's how the game can sustain itself financially

Tou bhai thats what i am saying..its unfair to world cricket.

 

[street cricketer]

Tou bhai thats what i am saying..its unfair to world cricket.

How though. All teams technically play in the same system. It's not like India starts the tournament with extra points or it plays with the 2011 WC rules and others play in the old system.

 

[Local.Dada]

Isn’t India technically the host of this tournament.

Hosts do get preferential treatment because it is their home games and since this tournament is rescheduled out of India, those perks carry forward.

Not everything is a saazish by BCCI. Take a chill pill.

 

[ElRaja]

these are t20s, hardly taxing on the players in workload terms, unless its a very tense game, most players look fresh as a daisy when the games done.

gilchrist kept and opened for australia being active for 60 to 80 overs a day during odis, most t20 players will go through less fatigue than one fast bowling spell, or stint of keeping in an odi.

playing 2, or 3 t20s back to back shouldnt be a problem imo for anyone other than express pacers.

 

[Major]

How though. All teams technically play in the same system. It's not like India starts the tournament with extra points or it plays with the 2011 WC rules and others play in the old system.

For associates. For the world.

In the super league system, you have to have less teams so that there arent too many matches. The advantage of the 2007 format was that you can give chances to associates teams, who if were able to perform well would go on to the next stage.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Also OP is wrong. In 2015 World Cup, India played both Zimbabwe and Irelamd in New Zealand. We were the hosts of Asia Cup 2018 and the hosts now so we can play in whatever venue . Not sure what the issue is.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Waqar on A Sports pavillion the scheduling of venues done for India

"Might is right. India is our big brother and they will do as they please.
But it should be fair for all teams ideally."

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

Isn’t India technically the host of this tournament.

Hosts do get preferential treatment because it is their home games and since this tournament is rescheduled out of India, those perks carry forward.

Not everything is a saazish by BCCI. Take a chill pill.

that statement will never resonate or reverberate or gain traction. When you cant introspect and blame others for lack of fizz in your soda or tadka in your paan or the moon not shinign bright enough, everything is saazish.
Till now no one has be able to explain with specific metrics or quantifiable means as to how india benefitted.
They also have not been able to explain how the 'others' which is is 7-8 teams in each WC, CT, T20WC, WTC, the backyard match between your cousins, gully mohaalla matches et all were disadvantaged.
They cant.

 

[baggy blue]

the scheduling is for the indian tv audience. this sunday, next sunday. Nov 3,5 8 and hopefully semi and final all adjusted/accustomed to diwali holidays.

 

[Couch Cricketer]

Stupid scheduling for Pak, ind and NZ group

Ind or NZ could be out of the running after playing just 2 matches. Broadcasters putting India matches on Sun might regret it if India is out after just 2 matches

If Pak beats NZ then NZ vs Ind becomes almost a knock out. Same if NZ beats Pakistan then India. India is again out. 1 of these 3 matches should have been at the end of the tournament as otherwise this could become boring unless Afg causes an upset.

 

[Zeshan547]

Ind or NZ could be out of the running after playing just 2 matches. Broadcasters putting India matches on Sun might regret it if India is out after just 2 matches

If Pak beats NZ then NZ vs Ind becomes almost a knock out. Same if NZ beats Pakistan then India. India is again out. 1 of these 3 matches should have been at the end of the tournament as otherwise this could become boring unless Afg causes an upset.

Don't be so quick man, Picture abhi baqi hai, Tournaments are never that straight forward, there are bound to be some upsets.

 

[happydavy]

The entire fixture of the world cup is as per comfort of Indian team. There are 18 teams playing in this WC, 17 of those have atleast 1 match in slow and low pitches of Sharjah, guess which country doesn't. 17 of 18 teams have atleast 1 day fixture, guess which country doesn't. At times, it becomes embarrassing to see how India gets pampered in such tournaments and such favoritism is bound to bite back. Its quite clear that in Dubai, dew would be a factor, which means if India looses toss against NZ, then it could be game over for India.

 

[Charmander]

The entire fixture of the world cup is as per comfort of Indian team. There are 18 teams playing in this WC, 17 of those have atleast 1 match in slow and low pitches of Sharjah, guess which country doesn't. 17 of 18 teams have atleast 1 day fixture, guess which country doesn't. At times, it becomes embarrassing to see how India gets pampered in such tournaments and such favoritism is bound to bite back. Its quite clear that in Dubai, dew would be a factor, which means if India looses toss against NZ, then it could be game over for India.

this has been happening since 2007. India will always get favorable scheduling because icc has incentive to see them go as far as possible. cricket is becoming wwe and bccci is vince mcmahon

 

[Energy]

NZ are prime candidates to lose to Afg. So are Pak.

The group is very much open.

 

[arif_2021]

NZ are prime candidates to lose to Afg. So are Pak.

The group is very much open.

Pakistan will not lose to NZ because they have to take revenge against NZ. For pakistan, its a bigger game than India at this time. This is already accepted and known before the tournament started.

Against afghanistan - sure they have three spinners, but do they really have the batting to cope with shaheen, haris, hasan ali? Its a different class...

 

[shamaan]

If Pakistan Beat New Zealand then India vs New Zealand is a knock out game unless something drastically happens in the other games.

 

[ARK Rafay]

Is there less assistance to spinners in Abu Dhabi than Dubai and Sharjah?

 

[Oligochaetes]

Indian viewers will lose interest in the T20 World up if India plays all their T20 games quickly and are kicked out too early from the tournament. Every Tom Dick and Harry knows that Virat Kohli is a cursed captain who cant win anything. He cant win a toss, how can he win games?

The fixtures are designed so that Indian team stays longer in UAE before getting kicked out and so their games are spaced out. This will ensure India viewers watch more cricket matches and ICC gets more revenues.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Pakistan could have 6 points before India play their next game, that will put even more pressure on India.

 

[Cricfan4eva]

Pakistan could have 6 points before India play their next game, that will put even more pressure on India.

Not really. Pak will go through. NZ vs Ind is do or die for 2nd team.

I have a feeling we will meet in finals. Group B teams are much stronger than group A. From then it will be a rematch of epic hype and pressure with both teams kinda evenly matched.

 

[shamaan]

Not really. Pak will go through. NZ vs Ind is do or die for 2nd team.

I have a feeling we will meet in finals. Group B teams are much stronger than group A. From then it will be a rematch of epic hype and pressure with both teams kinda evenly matched.

New Zealand will be tough game also don't write afganistan off both India have a weak all rounder in thier team.

 

[IcedCoffee]

Mate - that part of the bargain is never going to resonate or gain traction when minds are so fixated on one solid narrative

To be fair, fatigue is a much harder element to control than sheer motivation. Most teams and boost themselves up before knockouts but you can’t exactly boost yourself to recover if fatigued from WC pressure games in quick succession.

 

[Concerned]

T20 Itinerary 2021

Anyone able to explain how the matches have been arranged and on what basis?

Pakistan are about to play their 3rd match this Friday whilst India are still on one.

One can argue whether such long breaks can either help a team and make them more rusty.

As Pakistan have won their opening games they are well placed, whereas they could have been out of the competition in the first week.

 

[Rana]

Anyone able to explain how the matches have been arranged and on what basis?

Pakistan are about to play their 3rd match this Friday whilst India are still on one.

One can argue whether such long breaks can either help a team and make them more rusty.

As Pakistan have won their opening games they are well placed, whereas they could have been out of the competition in the first week.

BCCI gets their way

All of their players are suffering fatigue due to IPL, but I think they will end up playing lots of games one after the other.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Anyone able to explain how the matches have been arranged and on what basis?

Pakistan are about to play their 3rd match this Friday whilst India are still on one.

One can argue whether such long breaks can either help a team and make them more rusty.

As Pakistan have won their opening games they are well placed, whereas they could have been out of the competition in the first week.

Pakistan will have a break before playing minnows.

India will have a break when they get knocked out of the tournament.

Win win.

 

[Saj]

Pakistan will have a break before playing minnows.

India will have a break when they get knocked out of the tournament.

Win win.

Well let's see, big match between NZ and India on Sunday, with India well-rested and having had a lot of time to think about what went wrong against Pakistan.

 

[Savak]

Is it fair for India to get one weeks rest before their second group game?

Most teams have now played their 3rd game in the group stage while India has still only played one. Is this fair? Unlike the other sides they will not only get some vital rest but will also have a clear idea about what they need to do to progress in the group stages knowing where all the other teams stand.

 

[Rana]

I don’t think this has worked in their favour at all. They would have liked Pakistan to have lost at least 2 of their 3 games before India play their 2nd game.

As it stands now, India cannot make any mistakes now. One more loss and they are basically out

 

[Major]

This has been discussed before.

It was unfair, however, India got what it deserved now. The 7 days break they took it has created more pressure for them. After the loss to Pakistan by 10 wickets they were itching to take the field again. Plus, as Pakistan has now won 3 games on the trott and are top of the table, they will be now under pressure and would want to come near us atleast.

So karma got the best of it.

 

[AZulfi]

BCCI influence is too obvious there

More importantly will it actually help them win their game against New Zealand on Sunday ,,, lol