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Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif and his son Hamza Shehbaz get acquitted in the Ramzan Sugar Mills case [Post Updated #179]

Do you want them to follow PTI route? lol
Politics is not about road shows & dharnas. Its about ideologies. One day when you will grow up you will get it.

Coming from a supporter of criminal mafia family half of whose members are on the run, lecturing others is the last thing you should be doing. Can you please help, who did I forget, when i named the sharifs on the run?
 
Na, as much brave as the leader. NS could have lived his remaining life abroad but he chose to expose the real culprits.

Lol if NS refused to come back to Pakistan, PML-N would have gotten screwed. Lol his coming back didn't help PML N anyways. No wonder he is begging to go abroad for medical treatment
 
Do you want them to follow PTI route? lol
Politics is not about road shows & dharnas. Its about ideologies. One day when you will grow up you will get it. ZAB sacrificed his life for his ideology. Even he had option to escape.

How did Bhutto have the option to escape? It was Zia who refused to accept pleas from Foreign leaders. Bhutto got what was coming, he should have been hanged a long time ago for his role in the East Pakistan saga and the nationalization of the countries economy.
 
Lol if NS refused to come back to Pakistan, PML-N would have gotten screwed. Lol his coming back didn't help PML N anyways. No wonder he is begging to go abroad for medical treatment

They didn't screw up last time when Sharifs were in forced exile for 8 years.
 
How did Bhutto have the option to escape? It was Zia who refused to accept pleas from Foreign leaders. Bhutto got what was coming, he should have been hanged a long time ago for his role in the East Pakistan saga and the nationalization of the countries economy.

Could have bowed down to Zia's wishes & lived a happy life abroad. Btw was he ever trialed for these allegations?
 
Their leaders have done the worst to the country brought her to her knees and they have an issue when we show them the mirror? What sort of logic is this?

Yet nothing could ever be proven against them in all those years not even in the military rule years.
 
SC proved it all that's why they are in jail

You making SC controversial again. SC's job is not to prove anything but to give verdicts. When did SC say Sharifs are responsible for all the mess in the country? When did they say they looted all the money? When did they find them guilty of financial corruption?
 
Maybe he want to get the best medical treatment available in the world or maybe he loves his family & wants to spend some time with them unlike IK.

What for angina? Do they have magic spray in the UK, that an ex PM of PK can't get in PK. It's a shame that Nooras like you are humiliated by the duffer and you have to make all sorts of stupid excuses for him. Btw why can't the family come back to see him in PK, I am sure we can get a welcome party for them at the airport. Lol
 
You making SC controversial again. SC's job is not to prove anything but to give verdicts. When did SC say Sharifs are responsible for all the mess in the country? When did they say they looted all the money? When did they find them guilty of financial corruption?

How many of the family on the run, how many in jail? How many will return to jail? And you were saying about financial Corruption!
 
What for angina? Do they have magic spray in the UK, that an ex PM of PK can't get in PK. It's a shame that Nooras like you are humiliated by the duffer and you have to make all sorts of stupid excuses for him. Btw why can't the family come back to see him in PK, I am sure we can get a welcome party for them at the airport. Lol

Wishing for best medical treatment is stupid excuse? wow. Did you ever read any of his medical reports?
 
How many of the family on the run, how many in jail? How many will return to jail? And you were saying about financial Corruption!

None of them on run. None of them in jail due to proven financial corruption. You didn't answer my questions though.
 
None of them on run. None of them in jail due to proven financial corruption. You didn't answer my questions though.

What do you mean they are not the run? Your level of Nooraism is on new level. Btw what was question? Let's be honest, you are not making a good fist of defending the crooked family, so forgive me if I didn't answer some great question of yours.
 
Wishing for best medical treatment is stupid excuse? wow. Did you ever read any of his medical reports?

Why not build the hospital in PK? Afterall if you can steal billions and send them abroad why not build a hospital you and your brother, and Munshi can use!
 
What do you mean they are not the run? Your level of Nooraism is on new level. Btw what was question? Let's be honest, you are not making a good fist of defending the crooked family, so forgive me if I didn't answer some great question of yours.

Still no answers.
 
Why not build the hospital in PK? Afterall if you can steal billions and send them abroad why not build a hospital you and your brother, and Munshi can use!

World can always build better facilities than you. Still no answers from you.
 
World can always build better facilities than you. Still no answers from you.

So you are telling us that NS is great PM who couldn't build one hospital that he could use himself. A response that is comedy gold. Are you serious? There is no hope for losers like you!
 
So you are telling us that NS is great PM who couldn't build one hospital that he could use himself. A response that is comedy gold. Are you serious? There is no hope for losers like you!

Personal attacks won't help you one bit. Either answer the questions or go on & take the U-turn. There is always one open for PTI leaders & followers.
 
Personal attacks won't help you one bit. Either answer the questions or go on & take the U-turn. There is always one open for PTI leaders & followers.

I am still not sure what question I haven't answered, but at least it gives you something to hide behind. If the question is why NS needs to go abroad, only thick Nooras that use words like acquisitions can answer that.
 
You making SC controversial again. SC's job is not to prove anything but to give verdicts. When did SC say Sharifs are responsible for all the mess in the country? When did they say they looted all the money? When did they find them guilty of financial corruption?

I am still not sure what question I haven't answered, but at least it gives you something to hide behind. If the question is why NS needs to go abroad, only thick Nooras that use words like acquisitions can answer that.

U-Turn still open for you. No containers there.
 
U-Turn still open for you. No containers there.

So tell me Noora follower, where did the flats come from? When did kids in nappies become billionaires? Where are the receipts that he promised in parliament? We are still waiting? What was that sheet of paper he gave to Ayaz Sadiq? I thought that was the receipts? As you seem to be the man in the know, What was it? Why did they lie in SC? Why did the SC disqualify him? Where is the money Trail?
 
So tell me Noora follower, where did the flats come from? When did kids in nappies become billionaires? Where are the receipts that he promised in parliament? We are still waiting? What was that sheet of paper he gave to Ayaz Sadiq? I thought that was the receipts? As you seem to be the man in the know, What was it? Why did they lie in SC? Why did the SC disqualify him? Where is the money Trail?

Don't get hyper. Either show any court verdict against Sharifs on financial corruption or accept the fact that you have been brainwashed.
& NS was disqualified for not declaring a long-term visa which he acquired to avoid visa processing delays during his frequent visits.
 
Don't get hyper. Either show any court verdict against Sharifs on financial corruption or accept the fact that you have been brainwashed.
& NS was disqualified for not declaring a long-term visa which he acquired to avoid visa processing delays during his frequent visits.

I asked you a simple question: Where the receipts? Why did he need an Iqama? Why did the SC call him a liar? Where did the Children get the money from to become billionaires? What are Nielsen and Nescoll?
 
I asked you a simple question: Where the receipts? Why did he need an Iqama? Why did the SC call him a liar? Where did the Children get the money from to become billionaires? What are Nielsen and Nescoll?

Assuming you have accepted the fact that none of the courts ever found them guilty of financial corruption, here is the answer for where did they get billions of rupees. In 1939, seven brothers (one of them was Muhammad Sharif) founded Ittefaq foundary which evolved to Ittefaq Group of companies within next three decades. In 1971, it had become the steel industry in all of Pakistan. Muhammad Sharif was the largest business tycoon of the country at that time. In 1972, ZAB nationalized the steel industry, including the Ittefaq Group & took it over. Muhammad Sharif was robbed by the govt.(ref Capitalism's Achilles Heel by Raymond W. Baker). Ittefaq group was sold by the Govt in 2004 for mere 2.6bn Rs to pay off bank loans taken by the group.
Considering the political system & laws of the country, Sharif began moving part of his businesses to west asia to avoid complete bankruptcy if such situation in Pakistan happens again in future. He also entered into politics (1974) for that very reason to protect rights of business communities.
(ref Sharif Family by John Pike) Muhammad Sharif founded Sharif Group of companies in 1974 & still own by Sharif family. The Sharif Group assets are valued at US $300 million approximately today.
Considering the fact that Sharifs remained the largest business tycoons of the country, owning some of the entire business sectors of the country & also running successful businesses abroad, these flats & stuff are not even peanuts to them. It is just like asking Malik Riaz or Mian Mansha's family in 2060 how can you purchase a flat abroad. lol
 
Assuming you have accepted the fact that none of the courts ever found them guilty of financial corruption, here is the answer for where did they get billions of rupees. In 1939, seven brothers (one of them was Muhammad Sharif) founded Ittefaq foundary which evolved to Ittefaq Group of companies within next three decades. In 1971, it had become the steel industry in all of Pakistan. Muhammad Sharif was the largest business tycoon of the country at that time. In 1972, ZAB nationalized the steel industry, including the Ittefaq Group & took it over. Muhammad Sharif was robbed by the govt.(ref Capitalism's Achilles Heel by Raymond W. Baker). Ittefaq group was sold by the Govt in 2004 for mere 2.6bn Rs to pay off bank loans taken by the group.
Considering the political system & laws of the country, Sharif began moving part of his businesses to west asia to avoid complete bankruptcy if such situation in Pakistan happens again in future. He also entered into politics (1974) for that very reason to protect rights of business communities.
(ref Sharif Family by John Pike) Muhammad Sharif founded Sharif Group of companies in 1974 & still own by Sharif family. The Sharif Group assets are valued at US $300 million approximately today.
Considering the fact that Sharifs remained the largest business tycoons of the country, owning some of the entire business sectors of the country & also running successful businesses abroad, these flats & stuff are not even peanuts to them. It is just like asking Malik Riaz or Mian Mansha's family in 2060 how can you purchase a flat abroad. lol

Why do i get the feeling that you are the same guy who also use the pk at the end of his user name. But to answer your long piece of fiction SS said his dad was really poor! and NS said he was rich, who was right.
 
Why do i get the feeling that you are the same guy who also use the pk at the end of his user name. But to answer your long piece of fiction SS said his dad was really poor! and NS said he was rich, who was right.

You guys sniff more than think.
 
Still waiting!!!!!

She is proven liar & facing the consequences, move on. Also, Since you failed to provide anything from courts against Sharifs regarding financial corruption, looting & being responsible for the current situation of Pakistan, Please take back your allegations & apologize for lying.
 
She is proven liar & facing the consequences, move on. Also, Since you failed to provide anything from courts against Sharifs regarding financial corruption, looting & being responsible for the current situation of Pakistan, Please take back your allegations & apologize for lying.

"Move on". Tells me all I need to know about you.

And why again is Nawaz in prison if not for corruption & looting? Is it for fraud for pretending he's got more hair than he has?

And since Nawaz was PM longer than anyone else dead or alive, if he's not responsible for the current state of Pakistan, who is? Why are we in so much debt whilst he's richer than ever. Why does he and the whole family need to go abroad for treatment?
 
Having argued with PMLN, PPP, MQM and JUIF supporters on social media, their supporters still ask for proof that:

- Zardari was involved in corruption
- Nawaz Sharif involved in corruption
- Altaf Hussain was involved in terrorism and violence
- Maulana Fazlu sells Islam or involved in corruption

In short, they are all victims of conspiracies and Imran Khan is responsible for these conspiracies and he is the only culprit in destruction of our country. God knows how do we argue with such mentality, no matter they get served danda in the end otherwise i see no hope with such mentality :facepalm:
 
No one is Saadiq & Ameen except Prophet Muhammad(PBUH). Although a gang with big fat cold icy brain cells believe IK is also Saadiq & Ameen.
That got him disqualified from office, but why is he in prison?
 
I don't need to post same answers again and again. Please read the thread before posting questions.
 
Having argued with PMLN, PPP, MQM and JUIF supporters on social media, their supporters still ask for proof that:

- Zardari was involved in corruption
- Nawaz Sharif involved in corruption
- Altaf Hussain was involved in terrorism and violence
- Maulana Fazlu sells Islam or involved in corruption

In short, they are all victims of conspiracies and Imran Khan is responsible for these conspiracies and he is the only culprit in destruction of our country. God knows how do we argue with such mentality, no matter they get served danda in the end otherwise i see no hope with such mentality :facepalm:

Imran Khan looted 11,000bn Rs + 12bn USD that he took as loans in 10 months. What would you say?
 
"Move on". Tells me all I need to know about you.

And why again is Nawaz in prison if not for corruption & looting? Is it for fraud for pretending he's got more hair than he has?

And since Nawaz was PM longer than anyone else dead or alive, if he's not responsible for the current state of Pakistan, who is? Why are we in so much debt whilst he's richer than ever. Why does he and the whole family need to go abroad for treatment?

Another brainwashed zombie who I believe never lived in Pakistan & can't read Urdu. NS PMship years are as many as those of mushi.
Read court verdict (there is an english copy also available & don't forget to put .pk in supremecourt's url) to find out why NS is in jail.
 
Having argued with PMLN, PPP, MQM and JUIF supporters on social media, their supporters still ask for proof that:

- Zardari was involved in corruption
- Nawaz Sharif involved in corruption
- Altaf Hussain was involved in terrorism and violence
- Maulana Fazlu sells Islam or involved in corruption

In short, they are all victims of conspiracies and Imran Khan is responsible for these conspiracies and he is the only culprit in destruction of our country. God knows how do we argue with such mentality, no matter they get served danda in the end otherwise i see no hope with such mentality :facepalm:

You guys don't argue, you just throw a bundle of lies (with no logic nothing to back your claims) at your opponents & ask them to prove them lies.
 
Imran Khan looted 11,000bn Rs + 12bn USD that he took as loans in 10 months. What would you say?

With $28 Billion that needs to be repaid in next two years, i am not 1% surprised that he borrowed $10 Billion in 10 months to repay loans. Kind of reserves PMLN left, it is a miracle that we haven't defaulted on loans yet.

As for Imran Khan looting Rs11000 Bn, you are just being childish because no one accused your leaders of looting all the borrowed money. In our case, we have BBC documentaries, proven court cases, multiple books by international authors, UK's Daily Mirror calling your leaders "Penthouse pirates". Money laundering and TT cases, International scandal like panama etc are not ACCUSATIONS or mismanagement of loan. So yes, you can pretend to be oversmart but coming across as unbelievably childish with such argument and comparison.
 
With $28 Billion that needs to be repaid in next two years, i am not 1% surprised that he borrowed $10 Billion in 10 months to repay loans. Kind of reserves PMLN left, it is a miracle that we haven't defaulted on loans yet.

As for Imran Khan looting Rs11000 Bn, you are just being childish because no one accused your leaders of looting all the borrowed money. In our case, we have BBC documentaries, proven court cases, multiple books by international authors, UK's Daily Mirror calling your leaders "Penthouse pirates". Money laundering and TT cases, International scandal like panama etc are not ACCUSATIONS or mismanagement of loan. So yes, you can pretend to be oversmart but coming across as unbelievably childish with such argument and comparison.

Relax bro, I didn't mean to accuse Imran khan of looting just wanted to show you your response will also be same as of PTI's opponents if we don't back our claims with logic & evidence like PTI supporters.
 
Another poster added to my Ignore List.

In my opinion any one that supports the crooks are themselves beneficiaries of corruption and I for one will not engage with such people.
 
She is proven liar & facing the consequences, move on. Also, Since you failed to provide anything from courts against Sharifs regarding financial corruption, looting & being responsible for the current situation of Pakistan, Please take back your allegations & apologize for lying.

What the dependent daughter of NS is a liar? and NS is clean, where did she get the money from? It wasnt Capt Safdar because he only has the army pension? So where did the money come from? You are one confused Noora!
 
Assuming you have accepted the fact that none of the courts ever found them guilty of financial corruption, here is the answer for where did they get billions of rupees. In 1939, seven brothers (one of them was Muhammad Sharif) founded Ittefaq foundary which evolved to Ittefaq Group of companies within next three decades. In 1971, it had become the steel industry in all of Pakistan. Muhammad Sharif was the largest business tycoon of the country at that time. In 1972, ZAB nationalized the steel industry, including the Ittefaq Group & took it over. Muhammad Sharif was robbed by the govt.(ref Capitalism's Achilles Heel by Raymond W. Baker). Ittefaq group was sold by the Govt in 2004 for mere 2.6bn Rs to pay off bank loans taken by the group.
Considering the political system & laws of the country, Sharif began moving part of his businesses to west asia to avoid complete bankruptcy if such situation in Pakistan happens again in future. He also entered into politics (1974) for that very reason to protect rights of business communities.
(ref Sharif Family by John Pike) Muhammad Sharif founded Sharif Group of companies in 1974 & still own by Sharif family. The Sharif Group assets are valued at US $300 million approximately today.
Considering the fact that Sharifs remained the largest business tycoons of the country, owning some of the entire business sectors of the country & also running successful businesses abroad, these flats & stuff are not even peanuts to them. It is just like asking Malik Riaz or Mian Mansha's family in 2060 how can you purchase a flat abroad. lol

Sharif's 8 properties in London that came out during the SC case alone are worth $300 millions, leave alone cash stashed in offshore accounts, assets and properties in Dubai, Saudia, Pakistan etc. etc.

Sharif clan is worth at least $10 billion if not more...
 
Relax bro, I didn't mean to accuse Imran khan of looting just wanted to show you your response will also be same as of PTI's opponents if we don't back our claims with logic & evidence like PTI supporters.

I know you didn't accuse him because you have no basis to accuse him, we do. I have posted list of International sources that wrote book, articles, document leaks and documentaries on Sharif's corruption. Since all the Pakistani sources are obviously conspiracy, there is more than enough on international media about Sharifs.

No you can't get out of this easily, come up with a better excuse bro. That was the whole point of my post, if we still need proof that Altaf was involved in criminal activities, NawaZardari are corrupt or Fazlu exploits Islam then GOD HELP US.
 
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I know you didn't accuse him because you have no basis to accuse him, we do. I have posted list of International sources that wrote book, articles, document leaks and documentaries on Sharif's corruption. Since all the Pakistani sources are obviously conspiracy, there is more than enough on international media about Sharifs.

No you can't get out of this easily, come up with a better excuse bro. That was the whole point of my post, if we still need proof that Altaf was involved in criminal activities, NawaZardari are corrupt or Fazlu exploits Islam then GOD HELP US.

Did you see this Nooras Uturn on Maryam?
 
I know you didn't accuse him because you have no basis to accuse him, we do. I have posted list of International sources that wrote book, articles, document leaks and documentaries on Sharif's corruption. Since all the Pakistani sources are obviously conspiracy, there is more than enough on international media about Sharifs.

No you can't get out of this easily, come up with a better excuse bro. That was the whole point of my post, if we still need proof that Altaf was involved in criminal activities, NawaZardari are corrupt or Fazlu exploits Islam then GOD HELP US.

All of of your sources are paid content. People do all kind of stuff to get paid. Come up with official record.
 
Did you see this Nooras Uturn on Maryam?

I never ever defended Maryam for lying owning property in Pakistan. Show me one post & I will quit PP. U-turns are exclusively for PTI leaders & followers.
My support for Sharifs & any other personality in the country is based on their work & sacrifices for the country. I don't believe in human angels. Only prophets are pure & commit no sins, lies in their life & I fully believe in khatm-e-nabuwat alhamdullilah. I don't worship any human & believe all will lie & commit sins in their lives.
 
Sharif's 8 properties in London that came out during the SC case alone are worth $300 millions, leave alone cash stashed in offshore accounts, assets and properties in Dubai, Saudia, Pakistan etc. etc.

Sharif clan is worth at least $10 billion if not more...

Another bundle of lies. Had I wrote $500 million, you would have claimed $500 million. How much cash stashed where? which bank accounts? Any details you have or seen by yourself or presented to any court by any lawyer? Don't come up with "swiss banks" please.
 
I never ever defended Maryam for lying owning property in Pakistan. Show me one post & I will quit PP. U-turns are exclusively for PTI leaders & followers.
My support for Sharifs & any other personality in the country is based on their work & sacrifices for the country. I don't believe in human angels. Only prophets are pure & commit no sins, lies in their life & I fully believe in khatm-e-nabuwat alhamdullilah. I don't worship any human & believe all will lie & commit sins in their lives.

Where did she get the money from? She is a dependent of NS, So if Capt Safdars pensions dont cover the billions in assets, where did she get the money from?
 
Another poster added to my Ignore List.

In my opinion any one that supports the crooks are themselves beneficiaries of corruption and I for one will not engage with such people.

Pigeon closes his eyes when he see a cat coming to attack him. :P
 
Where did she get the money from? She is a dependent of NS, So if Capt Safdars pensions dont cover the billions in assets, where did she get the money from?

Read the history of Ittefaq Group & Sharif Group of Companies. Every citizen of Pakistan is free to transfer assets to his dependents whenever & wherever he wants.
You have not apologized yet. Show some bravery & take back your lies, it will earn you respect on PP.
 
Read the history of Ittefaq Group & Sharif Group of Companies. Every citizen of Pakistan is free to transfer assets to his dependents whenever & wherever he wants.
You have not apologized yet. Show some bravery & take back your lies, it will earn you respect on PP.
Apologise for what? Our country has been bled dry by crooks you support and you want me to apologise! Lol
btw
Is she dependent? Yes, so lets see the history of the transfers, oh i forgot, they have no documents to show even a single transaction, doesnt that make even a diehard Noora like you a little bit suspicious? If NS is not corrupt why did he not sue The Daily Mail that they promised?
 
Apologise for what? Our country has been bled dry by crooks you support and you want me to apologise! Lol
btw
Is she dependent? Yes, so lets see the history of the transfers, oh i forgot, they have no documents to show even a single transaction, doesnt that make even a diehard Noora like you a little bit suspicious? If NS is not corrupt why did he not sue The Daily Mail that they promised?

Makhdoom Ali Khan (defence lawyer) told SC that she was listed as the NS's dependent on tax forms because there was no other column on the sheet. See the sheet by yourself & tell me which column would you tick against your daughter if you were to fill it.
it was not difficult to transport 12 million dirhams in cash. Tariq shafi & Sheikh Hammad presented as witnesses & accepted by the court.
On 6 July 2018, NS, Maryam & Safdar were sentenced to 10, 7 & 1 year imprisonment in Avenfield reference by NAB court. But, In September 2018, Islamabad High Court suspended the verdict as, according to the presiding judge, Athar Minallah, NAB "was unable to prove a financial link between the former prime minister and the apartments in question".
On 24 December 2018, Sharif was acquitted by the NAB court in the Flagship Investment case due to dearth of evidence. He was, however, sentenced to 7 years imprisonment and fined Rs. 5 billion in the Al-Azizia Steel Mill case. Meanwhile, his appeal against the Al-Azizia sentencing remains subjudice in the Islamabad High Court. As I respect the courts of Pakistan, so I will not discuss a word on that appeal until the verdict is out.

This is the brief summary of all the court trial done so far since Panama. As a result, Maryam, Hassan & Hussain are all free, NS in Jail for only one decision of NAB court against him in one of the references & that too is challenged in the court.

Reality is completely different from what you are made to believe. If he really had looted billions of dollars, rupees & dirhams, Mushi's courts would have issued trillions of fine & dozens of hang till death verdicts OR institutes would have presented tons of evidences against him in front of court since 2017.
References & cases NS is facing since Panama are nothing as compared to what he faced in Mushi's & Benazir's eras, he not only came out as victorious in those cases but returned to the power with even more votes every time & is more than 100% confident (wouldn't have allowed or faced trial in this manner otherwise despite being leader of ruling party) that he will be ultimately successful again (almost there).
 
Makhdoom Ali Khan (defence lawyer) told SC that she was listed as the NS's dependent on tax forms because there was no other column on the sheet. See the sheet by yourself & tell me which column would you tick against your daughter if you were to fill it.
it was not difficult to transport 12 million dirhams in cash. Tariq shafi & Sheikh Hammad presented as witnesses & accepted by the court.
On 6 July 2018, NS, Maryam & Safdar were sentenced to 10, 7 & 1 year imprisonment in Avenfield reference by NAB court. But, In September 2018, Islamabad High Court suspended the verdict as, according to the presiding judge, Athar Minallah, NAB "was unable to prove a financial link between the former prime minister and the apartments in question".
On 24 December 2018, Sharif was acquitted by the NAB court in the Flagship Investment case due to dearth of evidence. He was, however, sentenced to 7 years imprisonment and fined Rs. 5 billion in the Al-Azizia Steel Mill case. Meanwhile, his appeal against the Al-Azizia sentencing remains subjudice in the Islamabad High Court. As I respect the courts of Pakistan, so I will not discuss a word on that appeal until the verdict is out.

This is the brief summary of all the court trial done so far since Panama. As a result, Maryam, Hassan & Hussain are all free, NS in Jail for only one decision of NAB court against him in one of the references & that too is challenged in the court.

Reality is completely different from what you are made to believe. If he really had looted billions of dollars, rupees & dirhams, Mushi's courts would have issued trillions of fine & dozens of hang till death verdicts OR institutes would have presented tons of evidences against him in front of court since 2017.
References & cases NS is facing since Panama are nothing as compared to what he faced in Mushi's & Benazir's eras, he not only came out as victorious in those cases but returned to the power with even more votes every time & is more than 100% confident (wouldn't have allowed or faced trial in this manner otherwise despite being leader of ruling party) that he will be ultimately successful again (almost there).

Another long essay to tell us that this crooked family is not crooked. We don't want long essays, we need money trails and your Duffer had a year in court and couldn't provide a single receipt.
Why did he not sue the daily Mail? Why did the brothers not sue WSJ?
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Another long essay to tell us that this crooked family is not crooked. We don't want long essays, we need money trails and your Duffer had a year in court and couldn't provide a single receipt.
Why did he not sue the daily Mail? Why did the brothers not sue WSJ?
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There are 100s of such paid news outlets in Pakistan & abroad accused him with all sort of false allegations. Do you expect him to file dozens of law suites on daily basis? It doesn't matter. What matters is what happens in court on those allegations.
It is not illegal to own property through an offshore company. However, under Pakistan’s national accountability laws introduced in 1997 by NS himself, it was down to the NS to prove his assets were acquired legitimately & he did so in Pakistan's courts by winning both Avenfield & Flagship investment cases. He must have provided each and every bit of trail. Courts are not that dumb, they don't let you go even if you fail to mention your employment in your son's company as an asset in assets declaration form. After all those years of accountability, NS is served 7 years imprisonment & 5 billion Rs fine & he is serving his sentence with an appeal still pending in court & his success rate has been 100% on such appeals all those years so far.
Pakistanis are not that dumb to vote NS over & over generation to generation in all those years despite all kind of allegations been put on him. They are fully aware.
 
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There are 100s of such paid news outlets in Pakistan & abroad accused him with all sort of false allegations. Do you expect him to file dozens of law suites on daily basis? It doesn't matter. What matters is what happens in court on those allegations.
It is not illegal to own property through an offshore company. However, under Pakistan’s national accountability laws introduced in 1997 by NS himself, it was down to the NS to prove his assets were acquired legitimately & he did so in Pakistan's courts by winning both Avenfield & Flagship investment cases. He must have provided each and every bit of trail. Courts are not that dumb, they don't let you go even if you fail to mention your employment in your son's company as an asset in assets declaration form. After all those years of accountability, NS is served 7 years imprisonment & 5 billion Rs fine & he is serving his sentence with an appeal still pending in court & his success rate has been 100% on such appeals all those years so far.
Pakistanis are not that dumb to vote NS over & over generation to generation in all those years despite all kind of allegations been put on him. They are fully aware.

Forget the dozens, just do this one as they promised. You seem to have a defence for them so they don't even need a lawyer. Lol They promised that they would do it and I am waiting, this according to you is easy to win. You know that your spin from Noora media cells would be thrown out of court. There is still time, convince your masters to file a law suit, if they win then I will apologise!!!
 
Forget the dozens, just do this one as they promised. You seem to have a defence for them so they don't even need a lawyer. Lol They promised that they would do it and I am waiting, this according to you is easy to win. You know that your spin from Noora media cells would be thrown out of court. There is still time, convince your masters to file a law suit, if they win then I will apologise!!!

You don't trust Pakistan's courts? They already declared him victorious on those charges.
 
Forget the dozens, just do this one as they promised. You seem to have a defence for them so they don't even need a lawyer. Lol They promised that they would do it and I am waiting, this according to you is easy to win. You know that your spin from Noora media cells would be thrown out of court. There is still time, convince your masters to file a law suit, if they win then I will apologise!!!

Atleast someone believes in credibility of Daily Mail & The Sun like outlets. They have a long history of losing legal battles usually chicken out by issuing an apology. From PMLN's history with them, I can quote Nasir Butt's case against them . wow, tyressa may ended up as PM :P .

Sharing a journal on representation of corruption in media by Massarat Abid back in 2012, a good read with strong references for anyone who cares.
http://pu.edu.pk/images/journal/studies/PDF-FILES/Artical-3_V13_No2_2012.pdf
 
Makhdoom Ali Khan (defence lawyer) told SC that she was listed as the NS's dependent on tax forms because there was no other column on the sheet. See the sheet by yourself & tell me which column would you tick against your daughter if you were to fill it.
it was not difficult to transport 12 million dirhams in cash. Tariq shafi & Sheikh Hammad presented as witnesses & accepted by the court.
On 6 July 2018, NS, Maryam & Safdar were sentenced to 10, 7 & 1 year imprisonment in Avenfield reference by NAB court. But, In September 2018, Islamabad High Court suspended the verdict as, according to the presiding judge, Athar Minallah, NAB "was unable to prove a financial link between the former prime minister and the apartments in question".
On 24 December 2018, Sharif was acquitted by the NAB court in the Flagship Investment case due to dearth of evidence. He was, however, sentenced to 7 years imprisonment and fined Rs. 5 billion in the Al-Azizia Steel Mill case. Meanwhile, his appeal against the Al-Azizia sentencing remains subjudice in the Islamabad High Court. As I respect the courts of Pakistan, so I will not discuss a word on that appeal until the verdict is out.

This is the brief summary of all the court trial done so far since Panama. As a result, Maryam, Hassan & Hussain are all free, NS in Jail for only one decision of NAB court against him in one of the references & that too is challenged in the court.

Reality is completely different from what you are made to believe. If he really had looted billions of dollars, rupees & dirhams, Mushi's courts would have issued trillions of fine & dozens of hang till death verdicts OR institutes would have presented tons of evidences against him in front of court since 2017.
References & cases NS is facing since Panama are nothing as compared to what he faced in Mushi's & Benazir's eras, he not only came out as victorious in those cases but returned to the power with even more votes every time & is more than 100% confident (wouldn't have allowed or faced trial in this manner otherwise despite being leader of ruling party) that he will be ultimately successful again (almost there).

My family members have been MPAs, MNAs. One is an MPA even now. At our gatherings, we eat and drink politics, all the inside news stuff. Don't need an evidence for corruption of Sharifs and Zardaris. My family has first hand experience of suffering through this. And I know too well the status of a section of my family who joined them; status before joining Sharifs and status afterwards. I know their modus operandi like back of my hand. Corrupt to the core.
 
My family members have been MPAs, MNAs. One is an MPA even now. At our gatherings, we eat and drink politics, all the inside news stuff. Don't need an evidence for corruption of Sharifs and Zardaris. My family has first hand experience of suffering through this. And I know too well the status of a section of my family who joined them; status before joining Sharifs and status afterwards. I know their modus operandi like back of my hand. Corrupt to the core.

File the cases against them. Everyone in Govt & institutes are desperate to hang them. Go on & help them, the nation & Pakistan's future.
 
You don't trust Pakistan's courts? They already declared him victorious on those charges.

I trust them, you don't. If you trusted them we wouldn't have a debate. The SC has declared him a crook. End of story. The Sharif's trust the British so let's also have the case in the UK. The UK libel laws are amongst the toughest in the World, so if you are so convinced they are innocent, then you too wouldn't be running like you are, you would be calling for them to uphold their promise to file suit. You know as well as I that they would be ripped to pieces and they wouldn't dare.
 
I trust them, you don't. If you trusted them we wouldn't have a debate. The SC has declared him a crook. End of story. The Sharif's trust the British so let's also have the case in the UK. The UK libel laws are amongst the toughest in the World, so if you are so convinced they are innocent, then you too wouldn't be running like you are, you would be calling for them to uphold their promise to file suit. You know as well as I that they would be ripped to pieces and they wouldn't dare.

Don't lie again and again to avoid one apology.
If UK's laws are toughest in the world, then why do you think they letting all sorts of accused criminals & terrorists from all over the world to live there, do businesses with their looted wealth brought their via money laundering? Why the hell they even provide protection to the ppl either on run to avoid court proceedings or court sentences in their respective countries? What kind of laws they have? What kind of logic you are living with. :facepalm:
 
Don't lie again and again to avoid one apology.
If UK's laws are toughest in the world, then why do you think they letting all sorts of accused criminals & terrorists from all over the world to live there, do businesses with their looted wealth brought their via money laundering? Why the hell they even provide protection to the ppl either on run to avoid court proceedings or court sentences in their respective countries? What kind of laws they have? What kind of logic you are living with. :facepalm:

As Noora Maybe your comprehension skills are not greatest- read it again and you will see a word which you may not understand. If you can't see it, let me know and I will explain.
 
As Noora Maybe your comprehension skills are not greatest- read it again and you will see a word which you may not understand. If you can't see it, let me know and I will explain.

Lawmakers made the world's best libel laws but failed miserably in other chapters? Again I ask you, What kind of logic you are living with? :facepalm:
 
Lawmakers made the world's best libel laws but failed miserably in other chapters? Again I ask you, What kind of logic you are living with? :facepalm:

So you want to run from this by talking about something totally irrelevant. The Daily Mail accused the Sharif's of being Corrupt, they​ said they will sue, they have the money and the lawyers, you claimed they are innocent. The UK has media are in constant fear of the libel laws, so why haven't the Sharif's sued. If you want to talk about other laws then open a thread.

Why haven't they sued!
 
So you want to run from this by talking about something totally irrelevant. The Daily Mail accused the Sharif's of being Corrupt, they​ said they will sue, they have the money and the lawyers, you claimed they are innocent. The UK has media are in constant fear of the libel laws, so why haven't the Sharif's sued. If you want to talk about other laws then open a thread.

Why haven't they sued!

Oh Boy, Daily Mail & fear of the libel laws in one para. lol
Did they give deadline to file law suite against Daily Mail? Did they back off from it? Their lawyers know best when & how to file one. Its not their top priority right now, let them first get them cleared from local courts that's more important, they will take care of Daily or whatever Mail when time comes.
 
Oh Boy, Daily Mail & fear of the libel laws in one para. lol
Did they give deadline to file law suite against Daily Mail? Did they back off from it? Their lawyers know best when & how to file one. Its not their top priority right now, let them first get them cleared from local courts that's more important, they will take care of Daily or whatever Mail when time comes.

See you are running. Why are you so scared, don't you want to know the truth? The DM would have to show their sources and according to you the Sharif's would win. But your pathetic excuses are the same reasons the Sharif's didn't sue, they would get humiliated like you are at the moment.
 
See you are running. Why are you so scared, don't you want to know the truth? The DM would have to show their sources and according to you the Sharif's would win. But your pathetic excuses are the same reasons the Sharif's didn't sue, they would get humiliated like you are at the moment.

Anyone who reads this thread would know who is running constantly from the questions. NS lawyers are professional, they don't go by emotions. Why don't PTI lawyers present Daily Waily Mail as evidence in Pakistan's court? lol
 
Anyone who reads this thread would know who is running constantly from the questions. NS lawyers are professional, they don't go by emotions. Why don't PTI lawyers present Daily Waily Mail as evidence in Pakistan's court? lol

More pathetic excuses! Don't you want to know the truth? Off course you don't because your​ whole world would cave in.
You claim they are professional and but they can't win a case that you claim on here is easy to win. Maybe you can give these guys some advice, you know send them one of these long essays. Lol

You, like him and his lawyers don't have a leg to stand on. The whole world knows that he is Crooked and no matter how much you run, that fact will never change.
 
More pathetic excuses! Don't you want to know the truth? Off course you don't because your​ whole world would cave in.
You claim they are professional and but they can't win a case that you claim on here is easy to win. Maybe you can give these guys some advice, you know send them one of these long essays. Lol

You, like him and his lawyers don't have a leg to stand on. The whole world knows that he is Crooked and no matter how much you run, that fact will never change.

Professionalism is not to file the case next day your client wishes, professionalism is to study all aspects, do your best preparations, leave no grounds uncovered, all it takes is one mistake by stupid lawyers to screw up won case for their client. Do you know it took 20 years for IK's lawyers to go into courts against Sharifs despite him being accusing them of each and every possible crime ever since 1996. What do you think why IK didn't file these cases in those 20 years? Again I ask you, What kind of logic you are living with? :facepalm:
 
More pathetic excuses! Don't you want to know the truth? Off course you don't because your​ whole world would cave in.
You claim they are professional and but they can't win a case that you claim on here is easy to win. Maybe you can give these guys some advice, you know send them one of these long essays. Lol

You, like him and his lawyers don't have a leg to stand on. The whole world knows that he is Crooked and no matter how much you run, that fact will never change.

His lawyers have been winning all cases against him all those years. Face the reality, burst your black balloon you are living in.
 
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