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Like I said, Khan is done and nobody would take to the streets even if Khan is arrested or worse.
Probably the biggest blunder of Khan’s life was to let go of Punjab and KPK. He had 80% of power within the country. He should have waited for elections because the PDM goons were on the way of self-destruction. A massive mistake!
Only way to get out of this mess is if Saudi Arabia/Middle East or China intervene.
Probably the biggest blunder of Khan’s life was to let go of Punjab and KPK. He had 80% of power within the country. He should have waited for elections because the PDM goons were on the way of self-destruction. A massive mistake!
Only way to get out of this mess is if Saudi Arabia/Middle East or China intervene.
But he has bail? So what’s Rana Sanaullah playing at?
You heard the phrase
"Jiskee Lathee uskee bhains"
This is Pakistan at the moment.
Imran must have really annoyed them when in power himself
Yes. I have been saying this from day one! The first mistake was resigning from the NA and then dissolving the assemblies. Khan himself sidelined himself from politics and gave up all power voluntarily. Biggest own goals in world’s history.
Like I said, Khan is done and nobody would take to the streets even if Khan is arrested or worse.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">An independent, credible and respected lawyer/ parliamentarian confirms my suspicion that this was a planned conspiracy to use the arson on government buildings as a pretext to crackdown on PTI. <a href="https://t.co/xvofvqHDss">pic.twitter.com/xvofvqHDss</a></p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1658833266659450881?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 17, 2023</a></blockquote>
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This time, I am afraid they will have their way and will end up killing IK. The narrative coming out is he is hiding 3-40 afghan terrorists at his house. the whole area is blocked off.. there are no supporters in the area. 1500-2000 police around and the orders are coming straight from the military. they will force their way in, claim they met resistance and had to shoot everyone.
I hope the PDM supporters are happy.
Yup..today will be a black day in pakistans history. For me personally I am done if they do that. I don't think I will be able to support the nation the same way ever again...
One thing we know with Imran. The opponent will have to play till the last ball. He has Pakistan is his clutches. To squeeze it out of him or him out of it will cause irreparable damage.
Bottomline is that Army doesn't think they can work with him anymore. Now a mutiny is all over can hope for.
Probably the biggest blunder of Khan’s life was to let go of Punjab and KPK. He had 80% of power within the country. He should have waited for elections because the PDM goons were on the way of self-destruction. A massive mistake!
Only way to get out of this mess is if Saudi Arabia/Middle East or China intervene.
I have already posted here about the Saudi unofficial stance which is that the MBS establishment and that includes the average Saudi citizen hates Imran Khan for his outspoken nature. They are ok with the Sharifs though they dont love them and they are somewhat suspicious of AZ and kept him at arms length during his reign
But Imran Khan is someone hated by Saudis and for that matter UAE people as well.
China is the only power with the power to ask PA to calm down a bit over Imran Khan
One thing we know with Imran. The opponent will have to play till the last ball. He has Pakistan is his clutches. To squeeze it out of him or him out of it will cause irreparable damage.
Bottomline is that Army doesn't think they can work with him anymore. Now a mutiny is all over can hope for.
The Pakistan army is a puppet army of the US. The Generals are taking orders from Washington, Imran is too much of a threat in this changing world where US is on the brink of losing its dominance.
Not true at all. Ive been to Saudi, UAE a number of times. The ordinary Arab respects Imran more than they respect Nawaz or Zardari, they are not stupid people. They know who is a crook and who is not.
The Arab leadership dont care either way, its irrelevent what is happening in Pak or who is in charge as long as they are happy.
No offence but this blaming US excuse has to stop. This has nothing to do with the US. This all boils down to generals who fear losing status quo.
It's a problem, this instant gratification of finding global scapegoats for the issues within. It's always someone outside.
What threat is Imran to the US? IK can do faff all to the US with pile high debt, food shortage, inflation and an employment crisis. IK never looked to pick a fight with anyone apart from the elite cabal inside the country.
It's like saying Philippines or Malaysia threatening the US, considering they're much bigger economies, it still sounds like a joke. US economy is like 100 times bigger and tens if thousands of kilometres away, what threat?
The country has benefitted from lapping up fat cheques from multiple US administrations. It's Pakistan's largest export destination, heck there's a trade surplus with the US. China imports a third less from Pakistan despite having three times the population. Who's the real partner here? Till recently US supplied arms to Pakistan on favourable terms and denied this to the neighbours to keep them in check. It was an American AMRAAM that brought down a mig and humiliated the Indians.
If US wanted to hurt Pakistan all it needed was a lightweight sanction. Even at the height of indifference post Afghanistan, all they did was refuse a phone call.
And this fascination with USs decline, and then that resolves the current issues inside Pakistan? America is no angel but Pakistan is it's own devil.
The biggest harm the Americans have done is playing their part in spoiling the rot, ie. establishment elite. Rest assured if not the americans the establishment will find someone else to suckle upto, wether that's China, Saudi, Russia whoever..... and rest of the nation will look for someone else to blame!
You have visited the region a few times and I was born there and lived for decades in the region and am fluent in Arabic and follow their social and official media more rigorously than pretty much anyone else in this forum
Saudi Arabia is a country where the citizens do not detract from their rulers' foreign policy decisions
This is the opposite in countries like Egypt, Sudan, Bangladesh, or Pakistan where the govt may take foreign policy decisions which are unpopular with the public
There are a number of Saudis active on Social media, and I posted their links previously, and they all cheered when IK was arrested.
Since you do not read Arabic (I assume) you are unaware of one big development in the portrayal of Imran Khan in Arab World
The Saudis have tarnished him as an "Ikhwani" , in other words a Muslim Brotherhood sympathizer. Once branded as such, they are considered bad in Saudi Arabia and the UAE and Egypt
Now, Qatar and Kuwait are different and there is some sympathy for Khan Saab there
I can make it simpler, can you post the link of a single verified Saudi tweeter with followers living in the Kingdom who has posted tweets sympathetic to Imran Khan and critical of Pakistans army over the last few days?
Its a challenge, you will hardly find any Saudi or Emirati speaking in his favor online in 2023. There may have been some who liked him back in 2018/9. As for the Sharifs they were never liked, but for the Saudis its a matter of "better the devil you know" as they are a known quantity and never likely to spring any surprises unlike IK
However there are Turks, Egyptians, Algerians, Palestinians who are in his favor in public. He is also very popular in Bangladesh
The Pakistani COAS is CHOSEN by Washington or have you no idea how Pakistan is run?
umm no its not. It does not work that way where I LIVE.
No loony in the army can be made COAS. To be COAS, a post of Corp commander needs to be given, after getting that post only than can you become a COAS.
The Corp Commander list gets approved by the current COAS, he picks his 5-6 guys, not the USA. The guys are picked as such that the current COAS needs to make sure that the 5-6 Corp commanders would be loyal to COAS. Meaning that if tommarow the COAS retires, because anyone of these 5-6 corp commanders can become new COAS, the current COAS needs to make sure after retirement the new COAS doesnt make a case against him or comes after him.
This is why Musharaffe was protected by Raheel Sharif.
When Bajwa retired, he knew he messed up, so to protect his futre he made 3 extra Corp Commanders, thus protecting himself for the long run, if by chance anyone else becomes COAS.
Lol USA doesnt have a say in this, this is just a conspiracy that someone with no knowledge of Pakistan would make.
i think the rest of us should sit back and watch the tamasha of both these fools
This is just like how ISI made Altaf Hussain who than went rogue. They never learn do they
The Pakistani COAS is CHOSEN by Washington or have you no idea how Pakistan is run?
USA feeds the Pak army and has done so since the 80's, in return they choose the COAS.
The Pakistani COAS is CHOSEN by Washington or have you no idea how Pakistan is run?
We have realised how cluless you are of Pakistan but mostly its a deliberate attempt to spread your lies on here.
YOUR NATION? You are broke in YOUR NATION, never forget this.
USA feeds the Pak army and has done so since the 80's, in return they choose the COAS. This current clown who is disrespecting the Quran was an outsider, he was bought back to become COAS.
Hamad Gul who was very pro Pak Army even admitted this, even though he was sad to admit it. Many others have too.
Stop with your nonsense on here , a Zardari broke fan has no credibility.
Unfortunately it will be a very costly tamasha for Pakistan. Unstoppable force and immovable object. Collateral damage inevitable. Which of the cults will suffer more. That's the only question.
Ideally, the two parties and the cult should join together and fight the establishment instead of fighting amongst each other. But we know thats not gonna happen.
The Pakistan army is a puppet army of the US. The Generals are taking orders from Washington, Imran is too much of a threat in this changing world where US is on the brink of losing its dominance.
The only hope in the army is for the few God fearing Muslims in powerful Army positions to make a change, a inside coup. But looking unlikely at this point as those where pin pointed, their families abused and harmed.
Yes that is true, back in the day. What use is the army for the US right now?
This entire tamasha has nothing to do with the US, it's a convenient excuse.
7 lines written by you, and not a single line written was a logical one to my post.
Talk sense even if you are gonna spread conspiracies. I told you how a COAS is made, you didnt even know that.
Do you have any proof that Pak Army is taking instructions from US?
US is out of Afghanistan and they do not have anything at stake in the region. They could least care who is in power in Pakistan.
Imran fans are portraying as though the whole world is against their chosen leader.
Bro there is only one cult. I dont mind PTI coming to power because Imran is too old and after him the party will finish. We saw the lack of leadership when he got arrested.
2028 elections are gonna be big elections, because in that Zardari, Imran, Nawaz wont be there, and new faces will be fighting. While PPP and PMLN will survive, PTI will be over and if Imran lives long enough, he is gonna retire. In the next 5 years, he will become or sleepy Joe Biden.
Ideally, the two parties and the cult should join together and fight the establishment instead of fighting amongst each other. But we know thats not gonna happen.
IK went to meet Putin on the day he rightly invaded Ukraine to get rid of Nazis, this was the last straw as it embarrassed Pakistan. Since that day the attack on IK began with the USA's blessing, since they are planning with the PDM and Army to get rid of IK once and for all. If you dont want to believe this , your choice.
Zardari fans have no logic to reply too. Your HERO has attacked the forces on numerous occasions but never tried in military court.
Plenty of leaders met Putin since the Ukraine war has started, knowing fully well where Russia stands. Erdogan, Xi, Modi, Macron etc.. etc... Imagine if US tries to bring down all these regimes? IK said the truth that he had no clue that the war was about to start the very same day. IK had a Bajwa problem and it has nothing to do with the US. The problem KingKhan is that you're too blind a patriot to speak ill of the establishment. The rot inside the army elite precedes Bajwa. Apart from Raheel Sharif, they all had their fingers in the jar.
Are you living in the US?
A tweet by an Indian army official. Indian forces have said this too on many occasions, they are lying too acc to you.
https://twitter.com/majorgauravarya/status/1203144226453647360?lang=en
That guy is an official? I thought he was just some attention-seeking grifter. Can't believe this guy actually ever had a job.
Scotland, I have no love lost for the US. In fact I'm looking forward to the debt ceiling discussions to fail and US to default, purely on the basis of economic principles than anything else.
Revolution has commenced .....
Twitter in Arab nationsThey are facist dictatorships, you should know this if you live there and if you lived there you need twitter for help?
Imran Khan has visited Saudi on many occasions, he was treated with more respect than any PDM crook ever has.
Not sure what your point is, as this has no relevance to this thread.
Yes, the Gulf Arab nations are dictatorships but their people love their rulers.
If you knew the Arab world properly, you would know that in the Gulf states, Twitter is the most active social media platform where views are exchanged. In South Asia it is FB which is more prominent.
My point was in response to the poster who said Saudi or China can intervene, I told him Saudi will never intervene in Imran Khans favor. They can intervene in favor of stability and I hope they do
Just to pick up on the point about the US. Look the COAS is not selected by the Americans. However their shadow looms large over the army. There are too many who are pro American to the point where they think the country should be overtly pro American no matter what. Bajwa was one such. Munir I fear is something else. A small man with an inferiority complex.
With regards to being called a cult member. That's rich coming from sharief and bhutto worshippers. I mean they built a shrine to the bhuttos so they can worship them. Now that's a cult. You when you present facts about the bhuttos their cult followers go off in a huff and accuse you of all sorts but won't confront the reality of this family.
Finally IK is simply following a simple script. And the crooks theives and pirs just can't handle it. Because for years they have cultivated this evil system.
Except for maybe 1-2 how many Generals of Pak haven't been pro-America? It does seem consistently that is the case and it’s happening due to so much of kickbacks their family gets from Western governments.
BREAKING: Pakistan's government say Imran Khan is sheltering up to 40 riot suspects in his home and have ordered him to turn them over to police.
Police have left Zaman Park.
It seems Imran smashed their long hop over the ropes today. Imran has a around 8/9 International media sat with him inside, all with cameras. He also has his own private security. Cowards dressed as cop rans.
Sad for those who were making dua to their Lord for the militant cops to be successful today.
Not so quick.
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Interior Minister Rana Sanaullah has warned that the relief PTI Chairman Imran Khan has gotten from the court “will not last for long”, saying that the former prime minister could be arrested after midnight — once his protective bail expired.
In an interview with journalist Asma Shirazi on Aaj News, he called the PTI chief a “bluff master”.
Sanaullah also said that Imran shouldn’t be afraid of jail, recalling the “political victimisation” his party suffered at the hands of the PTI government.
He also claimed that the PTI chief had “managed and trained” the mobs that attacked state and military installations on May 9. The minister added that the government had video evidence of the miscreants involved in the vandalism, alleging that “most of them are members of the Tiger Force”.
Nawaz's brutal crackdown via the Punjab Police with the full support of the Pakistani army has definately succeeded. It is very clear that senior PTI leadership are now going to abandon IK and the people have been scared to the point that they are no longer going to come out in large numbers or protest on social media that freely anymore.
The Shah of Iran tried these tactics as well in 1978 but the Iranians came out in millions on the streets of Tehran without fearing for their lives or of their loves ones. Will the Pakistani nation have similar cajones? Based on the evidence it appears not.
Nawaz's brutal crackdown via the Punjab Police with the full support of the Pakistani army has definately succeeded. It is very clear that senior PTI leadership are now going to abandon IK and the people have been scared to the point that they are no longer going to come out in large numbers or protest on social media that freely anymore.
The Shah of Iran tried these tactics as well in 1978 but the Iranians came out in millions on the streets of Tehran without fearing for their lives or of their loves ones. Will the Pakistani nation have similar cajones? Based on the evidence it appears not.
Look at how that turned out for Iran![]()
Some reports claim Malik Riaz, AK Dhedi, UK, US are trying to convince IK via Jemima to agree to leave the country with his wife in order to save his life and be away from politics for the time being otherwise the PDM and the Army is not going to spare him.
Imran has already replied to these cowardly deals. He replied he will live and die in Pakistan. After all these years these evil people still dont understand who IK is.
Some reports claim Malik Riaz, AK Dhedi, UK, US are trying to convince IK via Jemima to agree to leave the country with his wife in order to save his life and be away from politics for the time being otherwise the PDM and the Army is not going to spare him.
To be honest, i can understand if Jemima, his sons are lobbying to get him out of there. He is a father first before a political leader.
He probably should, I couldn’t give a toss about Pakistan once he leaves. He deserves to live a better life, instead he’s stuck in a 3rd world sh** hole where there’s no future for anyone.
I hope he takes the offer and leaves. He has to live first to take out the goons after.Some reports claim Malik Riaz, AK Dhedi, UK, US are trying to convince IK via Jemima to agree to leave the country with his wife in order to save his life and be away from politics for the time being otherwise the PDM and the Army is not going to spare him.