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"Probably my last tweet before my next arrest. Police has surrounded my house": Imran Khan

But he has bail? So what’s Rana Sanaullah playing at?
 
here we go again! we knew this was coming! these fascists have no shame!
 
BREAKING: Pakistan's government say Imran Khan is sheltering up to 40 riot suspects in his home and have ordered him to turn them over to police.
 
Like I said, Khan is done and nobody would take to the streets even if Khan is arrested or worse.
 
Probably the biggest blunder of Khan’s life was to let go of Punjab and KPK. He had 80% of power within the country. He should have waited for elections because the PDM goons were on the way of self-destruction. A massive mistake!

Only way to get out of this mess is if Saudi Arabia/Middle East or China intervene.
 
Like I said, Khan is done and nobody would take to the streets even if Khan is arrested or worse.

This is the ultimate test of jazba of the awam. There will be no help from outside.

Every nation has a story of struggle for it's soul. This is it for Pakistan. You wouldn't get better chance for decades.

Wake up and struggle!
 
Pakistan is the worst country to live in. No constitution, no laws, no justice. Just pick and choose the law that suits the powerful.

Shame on us and we deserve this terrible state. I hope just one day, those drown in lust of power for so many years get the worst possible punishment and torment they could never imagine, alas, that only happens in novels and fairytales.

"Sharam tum ko magar aati nahin"
 
Probably the biggest blunder of Khan’s life was to let go of Punjab and KPK. He had 80% of power within the country. He should have waited for elections because the PDM goons were on the way of self-destruction. A massive mistake!

Only way to get out of this mess is if Saudi Arabia/Middle East or China intervene.

Yes. I have been saying this from day one! The first mistake was resigning from the NA and then dissolving the assemblies. Khan himself sidelined himself from politics and gave up all power voluntarily. Biggest own goals in world’s history.
 
Probably the biggest blunder of Khan’s life was to let go of Punjab and KPK. He had 80% of power within the country. He should have waited for elections because the PDM goons were on the way of self-destruction. A massive mistake!

Only way to get out of this mess is if Saudi Arabia/Middle East or China intervene.

True.

Imran Khan biggest blunder was, he thought that those in power won't go to the level beyond shamlessnes destroying the constitution for lust of power.
 
Punjab Caretaker Information Minister Amir Mir on Wednesday said around “30 to 40 terrorists” who allegedly attacked military installations in the wake of PTI chief Imran Khan’s arrest last week were being sheltered inside Zaman Park and the party leadership has 24 hours to hand them over.

“We have intelligence that some 30 to 40 terrorists who were involved in attacking our army’s buildings and installations are hiding at Zaman Park,” said Mir, referring to the Lahore neighbourhood where Imran lives.

Imran was whisked away from the IHC premises by paramilitary forces on May 9, leading to violent protests across the country. Some protesters breached the General Headquarters in Rawalpindi, while others ransacked and eventually set on fire the corps commander’s residence in Lahore. The military has described the events as a “black chapter”.

In his presser today, Mir alleged that the people involved in the corps commander’s residence were in contact with the PTI leadership.

He said the party leadership had 24 hours to surrender the suspects, and that “the law would come into action” if they did not comply.

Imran Khan’s residence was the scene of pitched battles in March when PTI supporters clashed with police when they attempted to arrest him in the Toshakhana case.

“The handlers of these attacks who were there were in contact with them (PTI leaders),” Mir said. A joint investigation team (JIT) has also been formed to investigate the events of May 9, he said.

Arrests

Mir said the total number of arrests so far had exceeded 3,400 with a total of 254 registered cases, out of which 78 were handed to investigators on physical remand and 609 on judicial remand.

“The arrests are ongoing and the identification of these people will continue until the last person is in custody,” Mir said.

He added that the suspect would then be presented in military and anti-terrorism courts as previously decided by the civil and military leadership on Tuesday.

‘Police had instructions to not use guns during protest’
Mir also stated that the Caretaker Punjab Chief Minister Mohsin Naqvi had issued directives to the police to not use weapons against the protesters.

“The fundamental reason for this was that he did not want anyone to die,” he added.

With regard to the investigations, Mir said the chief minister had given clear instructions to ensure that no innocent person is wrongly accused of these crimes.

“Complete scrutiny is being done on the detainees and their cases are only forwarded after 100 per cent confirmation,” he added.

‘Preplanned’
Mir alleged that the “attacks” on May 9 were “pre-planned” by the PTI leadership as a consequence of Khan’s arrest.

“It is safe to say, like the TTP (Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan), the PTI is also taking up the role of a non-state actor,” he added.

Dawn
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Reportedly scenes from outside my house while I was addressing the nation <a href="https://t.co/a5vNgwMFLz">pic.twitter.com/a5vNgwMFLz</a></p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1658847401929498632?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 17, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Yes. I have been saying this from day one! The first mistake was resigning from the NA and then dissolving the assemblies. Khan himself sidelined himself from politics and gave up all power voluntarily. Biggest own goals in world’s history.

Tbh the manner in which the PDM government and establishment have violated instructions from the Supreme Court, i don't think Khan remaining in the Punjab govt and KPK govt would have made much of a difference, they would have calmly done whatever political engineering they needed to do. Remember IK couldn't even register his FIR in Punjab inspite of PTI being in government.

By dissolving his assemblies, he had forced the PDM and the establishment to find a way to facilitate Nawaz Sharif way ahead of schedule and in a manner in which it became blatantly obvious to the entire world that they were in Cahoots.
 
Former prime minister and Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) Chairman Imran Khan on Wednesday invited all stakeholders to sit and talk while there was still time as he fears another arrest during a raid at his residence in Lahore's Zaman Park.

"Probably my last tweet before my next arrest. Police has surrounded my house," he wrote on his official Twitter handle while sharing live link to his address to party supporters on YouTube.

Meanwhile, the police have blocked traffic coming from Mall Road to Zaman Park. Heavy police force is deployed near Zaman Park, Dharmpura Bridge, Allama Iqbal Road, Mall Road, and Garhi Shahu Canal Road areas of the city.

Policemen wearing bulletproof jackets armed with batons are present with their mobile vans. An unusual rush of traffic on Dharmapura Bridge is witnessed as policemen are standing alert on the roadside.

The police are searching big vehicles coming from Canal Road to Mall Road and Zaman Park.

According to sources, vehicles displaying PTI flags are being stopped and party workers present inside are being detained. A few vehicles were not allowed to go towards Zaman Park due to party flags.

"There is still time. Talk and be wise. The only solution to this crisis is elections. Those who can make elections happen, I appeal to them save the country by holding elections," Imran said while addressing party supporters shortly after his tweet.

On reports of PTI leaders leaving party, he said: "If someone is thinking this strategy will work, look at this," said Imran as he points towards a sheet in which it was depicted that 70 per cent of people supported PTI.

"The party which has 70% popularity you cannot finish it. PDM only wants to pit army against PTI. Everyone should realise what is happening and have some sense," he added.

"This (confrontation between PTI and military) will cause a huge backlash which would be damaging to the country," he added.

Imran said that his party workers tried to stop people from burning down the fighter jet model erracted at Jahaz Chowk in Mianwali but the miscreants did not stop.

"We're going to the high court soon to form a judicial commission as we have evidence now. We saw people everywhere who did not belong to our party and had pistols. They were instigating people to attack the Corp Commander's house," he claimed.

He also claimed that 25 people belonging to his party have been killed so far in the protests whereas 700 others with bullet wounds are hospitalised and 7,500 were in prison including women.

"I have heard 40 terrorists are in my house and we have given them refuge. If there are 40 terrorists here then my life is in danger as well. Please do come here but in a civilised manner not like you're attacking. It might be good for me too. Don't make it an excuse to attack," he added.

The former prime minister said that whatever happened on May 9 was part of a plan. "IG Punjab should be called for what happened at Jinnah House. From Liberty Chowk [in Lahore] people were moving to Jinnah House but no one stopped them. In a fair investigation, all will be revealed."

He said that they wanted to attack Jinnah House as an excuse to ban PTI and put leaders behind bars.

"How did Radio Pakistan get burned? The protest was happening someplace else but Radio Pakistan gets burned down. It is easy to identify faces these days with facial recognition. You can use NADRA's data and identify people but that can only happen through an independent investigation.

Imran claimed to have defended the army worldwide, emphasising that criticising the army is akin to criticising his own children.

He said that Pakistan Democratic Movement (PDM) was over the moon due to the current situation as they think it will cause delay in elections. "PDM is doing what was done in East Pakistan," he claimed.

"They reached my residence on March 14. They attacked my house for 24 hours. Did I say attack?" Khan stated. "APC [armoured personnel carrier] smashed gate of my house where my wife was alone. Did I say anything?" he continued, highlighting the dangers his family faced during the raid.

Refuting any claims of instigating violence, Khan stated, "When they tried to assassinate me, did I order anyone to attack them? They arrested me as if I was a terrorist."

The former prime minister expressed deep disappointment and frustration over what he termed unjust treatment he faced, asserting his innocence in the face of the accusations.

On Tuesday last week, dozens of troops of paramilitary Rangers broke into an office of the IHC and whisked Imran away in an armoured vehicle in a whirlwind raid while executing the arrest warrant issued against the former premier by the National Accountability Bureau (NAB) in the Al-Qadir Trust case.

Later, the Supreme Court termed his arrest as “invalid and unlawful” and referred the matter back to the IHC which had earlier accepted the arrest as "legal".

In an unprecedented show of vandalism, PTI supporters attacked and caused damage to the historic Corps' Commander’s House — originally known as Jinnah House and which once served as the residence of the founding father of the nation, Quaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah — hours after the National Accountability Bureau (NAB) arrested PTI chief Imran Khan.

Pictures and videos from the historic building showed that all the rooms, halls, drawing rooms, living rooms, walls, curtains, doors, wooden ceilings, and even the floor had been burnt by the protesters.

The 130-year-old building of the Military Engineering Services, a few furlongs away from Corps' Commander House, was also set on fire, where valuable records, furniture, and vehicles were set ablaze.

In the aftermath of widespread rioting and protests following Imran’s arrest, several party leaders including Fawad Chaudhry, Asad Umar, Shah Mahmood Qureshi, Dr Yasmeen Rashid, Shireen Mazari, Maleeka Bukhari and Fayyazul Hassan Chauhan, among others, were taken into custody.

Express Tribune
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">An independent, credible and respected lawyer/ parliamentarian confirms my suspicion that this was a planned conspiracy to use the arson on government buildings as a pretext to crackdown on PTI. <a href="https://t.co/xvofvqHDss">pic.twitter.com/xvofvqHDss</a></p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1658833266659450881?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 17, 2023</a></blockquote>
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Like I said, Khan is done and nobody would take to the streets even if Khan is arrested or worse.


Yep, this nation is brain dead - let them be slaves as this is the perfect comfort zone for them.

If they have not woken up yet and we don't see a couple of million people storming into GHQ and PM house - then it will perhaps never happen.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">An independent, credible and respected lawyer/ parliamentarian confirms my suspicion that this was a planned conspiracy to use the arson on government buildings as a pretext to crackdown on PTI. <a href="https://t.co/xvofvqHDss">pic.twitter.com/xvofvqHDss</a></p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1658833266659450881?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 17, 2023</a></blockquote>
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I don’t get this man

When he was detained for 3 hours in the court after his bail, he threatened the police chief about letting his followers know that he is being illegally detained…he was gloating about being able to pressurise the chief into letting him go eventually. He clearly knows about the street power he can use for his advantage. So why is he now making it seem as if his followers were not the ones who did the damage?
 
This time, I am afraid they will have their way and will end up killing IK. The narrative coming out is he is hiding 3-40 afghan terrorists at his house. the whole area is blocked off.. there are no supporters in the area. 1500-2000 police around and the orders are coming straight from the military. they will force their way in, claim they met resistance and had to shoot everyone.

I hope the PDM supporters are happy.
 
This time, I am afraid they will have their way and will end up killing IK. The narrative coming out is he is hiding 3-40 afghan terrorists at his house. the whole area is blocked off.. there are no supporters in the area. 1500-2000 police around and the orders are coming straight from the military. they will force their way in, claim they met resistance and had to shoot everyone.

I hope the PDM supporters are happy.

Yup..today will be a black day in pakistans history. For me personally I am done if they do that. I don't think I will be able to support the nation the same way ever again...
 
Yup..today will be a black day in pakistans history. For me personally I am done if they do that. I don't think I will be able to support the nation the same way ever again...

If its Gods will to reward Imran with martyrdom and a personal meeting with his Lord, it means this brave human being has done all in his power to save Pakistanis.

It will be upto the people living there as most of us abroad will break links with the nation to some extent. I personally will never set foot in such a cursed nation, cursed by God. There are supporters of the crooks who are broke, suffering from mental health issues but continue to support in jest.

For the moment, lets pray God protects him and gives more time for Pakistan to finally be Islamic. At the moment we have a General who is disrespecting the Quran itself. You claim you have memorised the word of God yet have no understanding of it. You have a whole gang of the most evil people in recent Pakistani history banded together like Siamese twins , using all their evil forces to help them to destroy a nation and its people.

Good v Evil. Good doesn't always win in this life.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Inside Zaman Park right now <a href="https://t.co/XLoOW4XdCV">pic.twitter.com/XLoOW4XdCV</a></p>— Siasat.pk (@siasatpk) <a href="https://twitter.com/siasatpk/status/1658858956498804737?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 17, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Where are these so called terrorists in Zaman Park?
 
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One thing we know with Imran. The opponent will have to play till the last ball. He has Pakistan is his clutches. To squeeze it out of him or him out of it will cause irreparable damage.

Bottomline is that Army doesn't think they can work with him anymore. Now a mutiny is all over can hope for.
 
One thing we know with Imran. The opponent will have to play till the last ball. He has Pakistan is his clutches. To squeeze it out of him or him out of it will cause irreparable damage.

Bottomline is that Army doesn't think they can work with him anymore. Now a mutiny is all over can hope for.

The Pakistan army is a puppet army of the US. The Generals are taking orders from Washington, Imran is too much of a threat in this changing world where US is on the brink of losing its dominance.

The only hope in the army is for the few God fearing Muslims in powerful Army positions to make a change, a inside coup. But looking unlikely at this point as those where pin pointed, their families abused and harmed.
 
Probably the biggest blunder of Khan’s life was to let go of Punjab and KPK. He had 80% of power within the country. He should have waited for elections because the PDM goons were on the way of self-destruction. A massive mistake!

Only way to get out of this mess is if Saudi Arabia/Middle East or China intervene.

I have already posted here about the Saudi unofficial stance which is that the MBS establishment and that includes the average Saudi citizen hates Imran Khan for his outspoken nature. They are ok with the Sharifs though they dont love them and they are somewhat suspicious of AZ and kept him at arms length during his reign

But Imran Khan is someone hated by Saudis and for that matter UAE people as well.


China is the only power with the power to ask PA to calm down a bit over Imran Khan
 
I have already posted here about the Saudi unofficial stance which is that the MBS establishment and that includes the average Saudi citizen hates Imran Khan for his outspoken nature. They are ok with the Sharifs though they dont love them and they are somewhat suspicious of AZ and kept him at arms length during his reign

But Imran Khan is someone hated by Saudis and for that matter UAE people as well.


China is the only power with the power to ask PA to calm down a bit over Imran Khan

Not true at all. Ive been to Saudi, UAE a number of times. The ordinary Arab respects Imran more than they respect Nawaz or Zardari, they are not stupid people. They know who is a crook and who is not.

The Arab leadership dont care either way, its irrelevent what is happening in Pak or who is in charge as long as they are happy.
 
One thing we know with Imran. The opponent will have to play till the last ball. He has Pakistan is his clutches. To squeeze it out of him or him out of it will cause irreparable damage.

Bottomline is that Army doesn't think they can work with him anymore. Now a mutiny is all over can hope for.
:)) i think the rest of us should sit back and watch the tamasha of both these fools

This is just like how ISI made Altaf Hussain who than went rogue. They never learn do they
 
The Pakistan army is a puppet army of the US. The Generals are taking orders from Washington, Imran is too much of a threat in this changing world where US is on the brink of losing its dominance.

No offence but this blaming US excuse has to stop. This has nothing to do with the US. This all boils down to generals who fear losing status quo.

It's a problem, this instant gratification of finding global scapegoats for the issues within. It's always someone outside.

What threat is Imran to the US? IK can do faff all to the US with pile high debt, food shortage, inflation and an employment crisis. IK never looked to pick a fight with anyone apart from the elite cabal inside the country.

It's like saying Philippines or Malaysia threatening the US, considering they're much bigger economies, it still sounds like a joke. US economy is like 100 times bigger and tens if thousands of kilometres away, what threat?

The country has benefitted from lapping up fat cheques from multiple US administrations. It's Pakistan's largest export destination, heck there's a trade surplus with the US. China imports a third less from Pakistan despite having three times the population. Who's the real partner here? Till recently US supplied arms to Pakistan on favourable terms and denied this to the neighbours to keep them in check. It was an American AMRAAM that brought down a mig and humiliated the Indians.

If US wanted to hurt Pakistan all it needed was a lightweight sanction. Even at the height of indifference post Afghanistan, all they did was refuse a phone call.

And this fascination with USs decline, and then that resolves the current issues inside Pakistan? America is no angel but Pakistan is it's own devil.

The biggest harm the Americans have done is playing their part in spoiling the rot, ie. establishment elite. Rest assured if not the americans the establishment will find someone else to suckle upto, wether that's China, Saudi, Russia whoever..... and rest of the nation will look for someone else to blame!
 
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Not true at all. Ive been to Saudi, UAE a number of times. The ordinary Arab respects Imran more than they respect Nawaz or Zardari, they are not stupid people. They know who is a crook and who is not.

The Arab leadership dont care either way, its irrelevent what is happening in Pak or who is in charge as long as they are happy.


You have visited the region a few times and I was born there and lived for decades in the region and am fluent in Arabic and follow their social and official media more rigorously than pretty much anyone else in this forum

Saudi Arabia is a country where the citizens do not detract from their rulers' foreign policy decisions

This is the opposite in countries like Egypt, Sudan, Bangladesh, or Pakistan where the govt may take foreign policy decisions which are unpopular with the public

There are a number of Saudis active on Social media, and I posted their links previously, and they all cheered when IK was arrested.

Since you do not read Arabic (I assume) you are unaware of one big development in the portrayal of Imran Khan in Arab World

The Saudis have tarnished him as an "Ikhwani" , in other words a Muslim Brotherhood sympathizer. Once branded as such, they are considered bad in Saudi Arabia and the UAE and Egypt

Now, Qatar and Kuwait are different and there is some sympathy for Khan Saab there

I can make it simpler, can you post the link of a single verified Saudi tweeter with followers living in the Kingdom who has posted tweets sympathetic to Imran Khan and critical of Pakistans army over the last few days?

Its a challenge, you will hardly find any Saudi or Emirati speaking in his favor online in 2023. There may have been some who liked him back in 2018/9. As for the Sharifs they were never liked, but for the Saudis its a matter of "better the devil you know" as they are a known quantity and never likely to spring any surprises unlike IK

However there are Turks, Egyptians, Algerians, Palestinians who are in his favor in public. He is also very popular in Bangladesh
 
No offence but this blaming US excuse has to stop. This has nothing to do with the US. This all boils down to generals who fear losing status quo.

It's a problem, this instant gratification of finding global scapegoats for the issues within. It's always someone outside.

What threat is Imran to the US? IK can do faff all to the US with pile high debt, food shortage, inflation and an employment crisis. IK never looked to pick a fight with anyone apart from the elite cabal inside the country.

It's like saying Philippines or Malaysia threatening the US, considering they're much bigger economies, it still sounds like a joke. US economy is like 100 times bigger and tens if thousands of kilometres away, what threat?

The country has benefitted from lapping up fat cheques from multiple US administrations. It's Pakistan's largest export destination, heck there's a trade surplus with the US. China imports a third less from Pakistan despite having three times the population. Who's the real partner here? Till recently US supplied arms to Pakistan on favourable terms and denied this to the neighbours to keep them in check. It was an American AMRAAM that brought down a mig and humiliated the Indians.

If US wanted to hurt Pakistan all it needed was a lightweight sanction. Even at the height of indifference post Afghanistan, all they did was refuse a phone call.

And this fascination with USs decline, and then that resolves the current issues inside Pakistan? America is no angel but Pakistan is it's own devil.

The biggest harm the Americans have done is playing their part in spoiling the rot, ie. establishment elite. Rest assured if not the americans the establishment will find someone else to suckle upto, wether that's China, Saudi, Russia whoever..... and rest of the nation will look for someone else to blame!

The Pakistani COAS is CHOSEN by Washington or have you no idea how Pakistan is run?
 
You have visited the region a few times and I was born there and lived for decades in the region and am fluent in Arabic and follow their social and official media more rigorously than pretty much anyone else in this forum

Saudi Arabia is a country where the citizens do not detract from their rulers' foreign policy decisions

This is the opposite in countries like Egypt, Sudan, Bangladesh, or Pakistan where the govt may take foreign policy decisions which are unpopular with the public

There are a number of Saudis active on Social media, and I posted their links previously, and they all cheered when IK was arrested.

Since you do not read Arabic (I assume) you are unaware of one big development in the portrayal of Imran Khan in Arab World

The Saudis have tarnished him as an "Ikhwani" , in other words a Muslim Brotherhood sympathizer. Once branded as such, they are considered bad in Saudi Arabia and the UAE and Egypt

Now, Qatar and Kuwait are different and there is some sympathy for Khan Saab there

I can make it simpler, can you post the link of a single verified Saudi tweeter with followers living in the Kingdom who has posted tweets sympathetic to Imran Khan and critical of Pakistans army over the last few days?

Its a challenge, you will hardly find any Saudi or Emirati speaking in his favor online in 2023. There may have been some who liked him back in 2018/9. As for the Sharifs they were never liked, but for the Saudis its a matter of "better the devil you know" as they are a known quantity and never likely to spring any surprises unlike IK

However there are Turks, Egyptians, Algerians, Palestinians who are in his favor in public. He is also very popular in Bangladesh

Twitter in Arab nations :)) They are facist dictatorships, you should know this if you live there and if you lived there you need twitter for help?

Imran Khan has visited Saudi on many occasions, he was treated with more respect than any PDM crook ever has.

Not sure what your point is, as this has no relevance to this thread.
 
The Pakistani COAS is CHOSEN by Washington or have you no idea how Pakistan is run?

umm no its not. It does not work that way where I LIVE.

No loony in the army can be made COAS. To be COAS, a post of Corp commander needs to be given, after getting that post only than can you become a COAS.

The Corp Commander list gets approved by the current COAS, he picks his 5-6 guys, not the USA. The guys are picked as such that the current COAS needs to make sure that the 5-6 Corp commanders would be loyal to COAS. Meaning that if tommarow the COAS retires, because anyone of these 5-6 corp commanders can become new COAS, the current COAS needs to make sure after retirement the new COAS doesnt make a case against him or comes after him.

This is why Musharaffe was protected by Raheel Sharif.

When Bajwa retired, he knew he messed up, so to protect his futre he made 3 extra Corp Commanders, thus protecting himself for the long run, if by chance anyone else becomes COAS.

Lol USA doesnt have a say in this, this is just a conspiracy that someone with no knowledge of Pakistan would make.
 
Some reports, the cowardly militants dressed as cops have retreated and are leaving Zaman Park.
 
umm no its not. It does not work that way where I LIVE.

No loony in the army can be made COAS. To be COAS, a post of Corp commander needs to be given, after getting that post only than can you become a COAS.

The Corp Commander list gets approved by the current COAS, he picks his 5-6 guys, not the USA. The guys are picked as such that the current COAS needs to make sure that the 5-6 Corp commanders would be loyal to COAS. Meaning that if tommarow the COAS retires, because anyone of these 5-6 corp commanders can become new COAS, the current COAS needs to make sure after retirement the new COAS doesnt make a case against him or comes after him.

This is why Musharaffe was protected by Raheel Sharif.

When Bajwa retired, he knew he messed up, so to protect his futre he made 3 extra Corp Commanders, thus protecting himself for the long run, if by chance anyone else becomes COAS.

Lol USA doesnt have a say in this, this is just a conspiracy that someone with no knowledge of Pakistan would make.

We have realised how cluless you are of Pakistan but mostly its a deliberate attempt to spread your lies on here.

YOUR NATION? You are broke in YOUR NATION, never forget this.

USA feeds the Pak army and has done so since the 80's, in return they choose the COAS. This current clown who is disrespecting the Quran was an outsider, he was bought back to become COAS.

Hamad Gul who was very pro Pak Army even admitted this, even though he was sad to admit it. Many others have too.

Stop with your nonsense on here , a Zardari broke fan has no credibility.
 
:)) i think the rest of us should sit back and watch the tamasha of both these fools

This is just like how ISI made Altaf Hussain who than went rogue. They never learn do they

Unfortunately it will be a very costly tamasha for Pakistan. Unstoppable force and immovable object. Collateral damage inevitable. Which of the cults will suffer more. That's the only question.
 
The Pakistani COAS is CHOSEN by Washington or have you no idea how Pakistan is run?

No, the COAS chooses himself to stay in the post as long as possible and reap the riches till it becomes nigh on impossible to continue. Then when it's time to step down pick a favourable candidate that the then ruling party is content with as well.
 
USA feeds the Pak army and has done so since the 80's, in return they choose the COAS.

Yes that is true, back in the day. What use is the army for the US right now?

This entire tamasha has nothing to do with the US, it's a convenient excuse.
 
We have realised how cluless you are of Pakistan but mostly its a deliberate attempt to spread your lies on here.

YOUR NATION? You are broke in YOUR NATION, never forget this.

USA feeds the Pak army and has done so since the 80's, in return they choose the COAS. This current clown who is disrespecting the Quran was an outsider, he was bought back to become COAS.

Hamad Gul who was very pro Pak Army even admitted this, even though he was sad to admit it. Many others have too.

Stop with your nonsense on here , a Zardari broke fan has no credibility.

7 lines written by you, and not a single line written was a logical one to my post.

Talk sense even if you are gonna spread conspiracies. I told you how a COAS is made, you didnt even know that.
 
Unfortunately it will be a very costly tamasha for Pakistan. Unstoppable force and immovable object. Collateral damage inevitable. Which of the cults will suffer more. That's the only question.

Bro there is only one cult. I dont mind PTI coming to power because Imran is too old and after him the party will finish. We saw the lack of leadership when he got arrested.

2028 elections are gonna be big elections, because in that Zardari, Imran, Nawaz wont be there, and new faces will be fighting. While PPP and PMLN will survive, PTI will be over and if Imran lives long enough, he is gonna retire. In the next 5 years, he will become or sleepy Joe Biden.

Ideally, the two parties and the cult should join together and fight the establishment instead of fighting amongst each other. But we know thats not gonna happen.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My full speech earlier today.<br><br>PTI has always been a peaceful & democratic Party. Numerous examples I shared where we showed restraint and chose a peaceful solution to avoid confrontation even if it meant a set back for me or the party.<br><br>I ask the authorities to conduct a… <a href="https://t.co/CsA8p7t1yS">pic.twitter.com/CsA8p7t1yS</a></p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1658882754249883669?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 17, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Ideally, the two parties and the cult should join together and fight the establishment instead of fighting amongst each other. But we know thats not gonna happen.

They're too fickle for that, all the establishment needs to do is throw the carrot, ie. the PM post and these guys will switch sides. The two families have too much to lose and aren't capable of playing the long game. This is what makes IK unstoppable, he doesn't give a F!
 
The Pakistan army is a puppet army of the US. The Generals are taking orders from Washington, Imran is too much of a threat in this changing world where US is on the brink of losing its dominance.

The only hope in the army is for the few God fearing Muslims in powerful Army positions to make a change, a inside coup. But looking unlikely at this point as those where pin pointed, their families abused and harmed.

Do you have any proof that Pak Army is taking instructions from US?

US is out of Afghanistan and they do not have anything at stake in the region. They could least care who is in power in Pakistan.

Imran fans are portraying as though the whole world is against their chosen leader.
 
Yes that is true, back in the day. What use is the army for the US right now?

This entire tamasha has nothing to do with the US, it's a convenient excuse.

IK went to meet Putin on the day he rightly invaded Ukraine to get rid of Nazis, this was the last straw as it embarrassed Pakistan. Since that day the attack on IK began with the USA's blessing, since they are planning with the PDM and Army to get rid of IK once and for all. If you dont want to believe this , your choice.

7 lines written by you, and not a single line written was a logical one to my post.

Talk sense even if you are gonna spread conspiracies. I told you how a COAS is made, you didnt even know that.

Zardari fans have no logic to reply too. Your HERO has attacked the forces on numerous occasions but never tried in military court.
 
Do you have any proof that Pak Army is taking instructions from US?

US is out of Afghanistan and they do not have anything at stake in the region. They could least care who is in power in Pakistan.

Imran fans are portraying as though the whole world is against their chosen leader.

A tweet by an Indian army official. Indian forces have said this too on many occasions, they are lying too acc to you.

https://twitter.com/majorgauravarya/status/1203144226453647360?lang=en
 
Bro there is only one cult. I dont mind PTI coming to power because Imran is too old and after him the party will finish. We saw the lack of leadership when he got arrested.

2028 elections are gonna be big elections, because in that Zardari, Imran, Nawaz wont be there, and new faces will be fighting. While PPP and PMLN will survive, PTI will be over and if Imran lives long enough, he is gonna retire. In the next 5 years, he will become or sleepy Joe Biden.

Ideally, the two parties and the cult should join together and fight the establishment instead of fighting amongst each other. But we know thats not gonna happen.

Well you forget at army cult. Few years back you would have been lambasted to question the army let alone accuse it of corruption and fascism. Now its in fashion because another cult leader has been challenged by the same army. Btw army is doing nothing new here. It's just that there is a pushback likes of which we haven't seen. From a British colony Pakistan became an army colony.

With the latest googly of Army act, it's now just confrontation. They are taking SC out of the equation. Nobody from US or UK is booking any flights to join this fight. People of Pakistan have to decide. Meanwhile there isn't enough food on the table for many. Good thing for PDM us that with all this drama people have forgotten 40% inflation.
 
IK went to meet Putin on the day he rightly invaded Ukraine to get rid of Nazis, this was the last straw as it embarrassed Pakistan. Since that day the attack on IK began with the USA's blessing, since they are planning with the PDM and Army to get rid of IK once and for all. If you dont want to believe this , your choice.



Zardari fans have no logic to reply too. Your HERO has attacked the forces on numerous occasions but never tried in military court.

Plenty of leaders met Putin since the Ukraine war has started, knowing fully well where Russia stands. Erdogan, Xi, Modi, Macron etc.. etc... Imagine if US tries to bring down all these regimes? IK said the truth that he had no clue that the war was about to start the very same day. IK had a Bajwa problem and it has nothing to do with the US. The problem KingKhan is that you're too blind a patriot to speak ill of the establishment. The rot inside the army elite precedes Bajwa. Apart from Raheel Sharif, they all had their fingers in the jar.
 
Plenty of leaders met Putin since the Ukraine war has started, knowing fully well where Russia stands. Erdogan, Xi, Modi, Macron etc.. etc... Imagine if US tries to bring down all these regimes? IK said the truth that he had no clue that the war was about to start the very same day. IK had a Bajwa problem and it has nothing to do with the US. The problem KingKhan is that you're too blind a patriot to speak ill of the establishment. The rot inside the army elite precedes Bajwa. Apart from Raheel Sharif, they all had their fingers in the jar.

Im not suggesting this was the beginning, this was just an extension of US rule over Pak army. This has been the case since the 80's. This is not talking bad about the army, it makes no difference to my life, this is simply the truth which is an open secret.

Are you living in the US?
 
The army is rotten to the core. They don’t need the US help. US has bigger fish to fry. Pakistan has no importance on the international stage. Maybe China cares to intervene a bit as we are Neighbors . USA is long gone for now.
 
That guy is an official? I thought he was just some attention-seeking grifter. Can't believe this guy actually ever had a job.

That joker was head of the ISI for a time I believe. The head or deputy . I can’t remember. A total nut and a mentor of sort for IK
 
Scotland, I have no love lost for the US. In fact I'm looking forward to the debt ceiling discussions to fail and US to default, purely on the basis of economic principles than anything else.

If you'd like to discuss the US's influence and ownership of the armed forces of Pakistan, please tag me in the relevant thread. Pakistan is vital to US in the region ,even more so now. If you're aware of the possible upcoming default , you will know why US is worried about its future economical power in a new world where the rest have had enough of the worlds biggest terrorist. The upcoming St Petersburg forum will have approx 80 nations discussing a new global currency.
 
Revolution has commenced .....

Nahi yar ,,, in tillon mein tael nahi hai.

Our last hope is a few high command officers in the army stand up and take out Asim Munir and his criminal mafia friends.
There is no other way. This nation does not have it in them.
 
Twitter in Arab nations :)) They are facist dictatorships, you should know this if you live there and if you lived there you need twitter for help?

Imran Khan has visited Saudi on many occasions, he was treated with more respect than any PDM crook ever has.

Not sure what your point is, as this has no relevance to this thread.

Yes, the Gulf Arab nations are dictatorships but their people love their rulers.
If you knew the Arab world properly, you would know that in the Gulf states, Twitter is the most active social media platform where views are exchanged. In South Asia it is FB which is more prominent.

My point was in response to the poster who said Saudi or China can intervene, I told him Saudi will never intervene in Imran Khans favor. They can intervene in favor of stability and I hope they do
 
Yes, the Gulf Arab nations are dictatorships but their people love their rulers.
If you knew the Arab world properly, you would know that in the Gulf states, Twitter is the most active social media platform where views are exchanged. In South Asia it is FB which is more prominent.

My point was in response to the poster who said Saudi or China can intervene, I told him Saudi will never intervene in Imran Khans favor. They can intervene in favor of stability and I hope they do

lol., they have a choice not to love their dictators?

Twitter is censored in all dictatorships. Please prove me wrong by tweeting genuine criticism of the King while you're in Saudi.

Saudi dont care about Pakistan or any other land. Read upon the history of how Saudi became Saudi Arabia, puppets put in place to control the Muslims in this area.

ONLY Pakistanis can help from here on.
 
Just to pick up on the point about the US. Look the COAS is not selected by the Americans. However their shadow looms large over the army. There are too many who are pro American to the point where they think the country should be overtly pro American no matter what. Bajwa was one such. Munir I fear is something else. A small man with an inferiority complex.

With regards to being called a cult member. That's rich coming from sharief and bhutto worshippers. I mean they built a shrine to the bhuttos so they can worship them. Now that's a cult. You when you present facts about the bhuttos their cult followers go off in a huff and accuse you of all sorts but won't confront the reality of this family.

Finally IK is simply following a simple script. And the crooks theives and pirs just can't handle it. Because for years they have cultivated this evil system.
 
No arrests at Zaman Park before 2pm tomorrow: Punjab interim minister

Punjab Caretaker Information Minister Amir Mir has said no arrests will be made at PTI chief Imran Khan’s residence until 2pm tomorrow (Thursday).

He gave this assurance during Geo News show ‘Aaj Shahzeb Khanzada Kay Sath’, saying he had given a 24-hour deadline to the PTI leadership this afternoon to hand over those“30 to 40 terrorists“ who allegedly attacked military installations and were being sheltered inside the Zaman Park residence.

The interim minister said no action would be taken before the deadline lapsed.

He also refuted “Imran Khan’s claim that a decision has been taken to arrest him”.
 
Just to pick up on the point about the US. Look the COAS is not selected by the Americans. However their shadow looms large over the army. There are too many who are pro American to the point where they think the country should be overtly pro American no matter what. Bajwa was one such. Munir I fear is something else. A small man with an inferiority complex.

With regards to being called a cult member. That's rich coming from sharief and bhutto worshippers. I mean they built a shrine to the bhuttos so they can worship them. Now that's a cult. You when you present facts about the bhuttos their cult followers go off in a huff and accuse you of all sorts but won't confront the reality of this family.

Finally IK is simply following a simple script. And the crooks theives and pirs just can't handle it. Because for years they have cultivated this evil system.

Except for maybe 1-2 how many Generals of Pak haven't been pro-America? It does seem consistently that is the case and it’s happening due to so much of kickbacks their family gets from Western governments.
 
Except for maybe 1-2 how many Generals of Pak haven't been pro-America? It does seem consistently that is the case and it’s happening due to so much of kickbacks their family gets from Western governments.

US didnt give F16s' , turned a blind eye to Pak becoming a nuclear power without placing influence on who is in charge of those. Its hard for many Pakistanis to accept if the US disagrees on the new COAS, he will not get the ticket. This Munir guy was retired lol before he was bought back from the dead to haunt ordinary people.
 
Yanks have also given a green light for PDM, General to take out Imran.

Here is the late great Hamid Gul. Pakistanis need to wake up.

 
BREAKING: Pakistan's government say Imran Khan is sheltering up to 40 riot suspects in his home and have ordered him to turn them over to police.

They are calling them terrorists. This is a dangerous and no win game for Imran. If even few of them were involved. Iqbal grandson said pti workers were discussing about attacking GHQ although pti leadership didn't ask them to. Imran and PTI in trouble
 
Police have left Zaman Park.

It seems Imran smashed their long hop over the ropes today. Imran has a around 8/9 International media sat with him inside, all with cameras. He also has his own private security. Cowards dressed as cop rans.

Sad for those who were making dua to their Lord for the militant cops to be successful today.
 
Police have left Zaman Park.

It seems Imran smashed their long hop over the ropes today. Imran has a around 8/9 International media sat with him inside, all with cameras. He also has his own private security. Cowards dressed as cop rans.

Sad for those who were making dua to their Lord for the militant cops to be successful today.

Not so quick.

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Interior Minister Rana Sanaullah has warned that the relief PTI Chairman Imran Khan has gotten from the court “will not last for long”, saying that the former prime minister could be arrested after midnight — once his protective bail expired.

In an interview with journalist Asma Shirazi on Aaj News, he called the PTI chief a “bluff master”.

Sanaullah also said that Imran shouldn’t be afraid of jail, recalling the “political victimisation” his party suffered at the hands of the PTI government.

He also claimed that the PTI chief had “managed and trained” the mobs that attacked state and military installations on May 9. The minister added that the government had video evidence of the miscreants involved in the vandalism, alleging that “most of them are members of the Tiger Force”.
 
Not so quick.

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Interior Minister Rana Sanaullah has warned that the relief PTI Chairman Imran Khan has gotten from the court “will not last for long”, saying that the former prime minister could be arrested after midnight — once his protective bail expired.

In an interview with journalist Asma Shirazi on Aaj News, he called the PTI chief a “bluff master”.

Sanaullah also said that Imran shouldn’t be afraid of jail, recalling the “political victimisation” his party suffered at the hands of the PTI government.

He also claimed that the PTI chief had “managed and trained” the mobs that attacked state and military installations on May 9. The minister added that the government had video evidence of the miscreants involved in the vandalism, alleging that “most of them are members of the Tiger Force”.

This Tiger force was given a lot of news. The placards were all the same, a tell tale sign those organised group to promote an agenda and not PTI official members.

This Rana guy will try and keep trying but he's not the sharpest knife in the kitchen.

Imran should also invite foriegn media from various nations inc Russia, USA, UK, Europe, Turkey, South Asia to Zaman Park to stay with him on an indefinitely. These crooks know they will have to face the world if anything happens to IK, this scares them more than outright murder and of course corruption is normal.
 
Nawaz's brutal crackdown via the Punjab Police with the full support of the Pakistani army has definately succeeded. It is very clear that senior PTI leadership are now going to abandon IK and the people have been scared to the point that they are no longer going to come out in large numbers or protest on social media that freely anymore.

The Shah of Iran tried these tactics as well in 1978 but the Iranians came out in millions on the streets of Tehran without fearing for their lives or of their loves ones. Will the Pakistani nation have similar cajones? Based on the evidence it appears not.
 
Nawaz's brutal crackdown via the Punjab Police with the full support of the Pakistani army has definately succeeded. It is very clear that senior PTI leadership are now going to abandon IK and the people have been scared to the point that they are no longer going to come out in large numbers or protest on social media that freely anymore.

The Shah of Iran tried these tactics as well in 1978 but the Iranians came out in millions on the streets of Tehran without fearing for their lives or of their loves ones. Will the Pakistani nation have similar cajones? Based on the evidence it appears not.

Look at how that turned out for Iran :))
 
Nawaz's brutal crackdown via the Punjab Police with the full support of the Pakistani army has definately succeeded. It is very clear that senior PTI leadership are now going to abandon IK and the people have been scared to the point that they are no longer going to come out in large numbers or protest on social media that freely anymore.

The Shah of Iran tried these tactics as well in 1978 but the Iranians came out in millions on the streets of Tehran without fearing for their lives or of their loves ones. Will the Pakistani nation have similar cajones? Based on the evidence it appears not.

There are a lot of brave Pakistanis no doubt. The Iranian revolution took years too. The Coup took place in 1953 ,the revolution freed the nation in 1979. IK was only ousted in a similar coup but in a different way less than 18 months ago. It takes years to build up resistance.

But I agree the fear these animals parading in uniforms have placed on the population is horrific. Women, young and elderly detained, sexually molested and perhaps more. People freed by courts, arrested again and again. Even the Evil Shah of Iran didnt do this so much openly as these criminals are now.
 
Look at how that turned out for Iran :))

Iranian GDP is nearly 3 x higher than Pakistan. Iranians are free people not slaves.

Some like you may like to live by outsiders rules but most have more self respect.
 
Some reports claim Malik Riaz, AK Dhedi, UK, US are trying to convince IK via Jemima to agree to leave the country with his wife in order to save his life and be away from politics for the time being otherwise the PDM and the Army is not going to spare him.
 
Some reports claim Malik Riaz, AK Dhedi, UK, US are trying to convince IK via Jemima to agree to leave the country with his wife in order to save his life and be away from politics for the time being otherwise the PDM and the Army is not going to spare him.

Imran has already replied to these cowardly deals. He replied he will live and die in Pakistan. After all these years these evil people still dont understand who IK is.
 
Imran has already replied to these cowardly deals. He replied he will live and die in Pakistan. After all these years these evil people still dont understand who IK is.

To be honest, i can understand if Jemima, his sons are lobbying to get him out of there. He is a father first before a political leader.
 
Some reports claim Malik Riaz, AK Dhedi, UK, US are trying to convince IK via Jemima to agree to leave the country with his wife in order to save his life and be away from politics for the time being otherwise the PDM and the Army is not going to spare him.

He probably should, I couldn’t give a toss about Pakistan once he leaves. He deserves to live a better life, instead he’s stuck in a 3rd world sh** hole where there’s no future for anyone.
 
To be honest, i can understand if Jemima, his sons are lobbying to get him out of there. He is a father first before a political leader.

He probably should, I couldn’t give a toss about Pakistan once he leaves. He deserves to live a better life, instead he’s stuck in a 3rd world sh** hole where there’s no future for anyone.

This is the tragic point you both make.

Imagine not seeing your children grow up, being so far in another country, sacrificing all for the people of Pakistan. Would Zardari or Nawaz ever do this? Nawaz has run off leaving his family.

Im sure Jemima and Imrans boys realise Imran Khan is Pakistan Khan forever now.
 
Some reports claim Malik Riaz, AK Dhedi, UK, US are trying to convince IK via Jemima to agree to leave the country with his wife in order to save his life and be away from politics for the time being otherwise the PDM and the Army is not going to spare him.
I hope he takes the offer and leaves. He has to live first to take out the goons after.

If he leaves what will happen to other leadership people and thousands of innocent people caught in this?
 
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