Promising youngsters for the future

[Billy1999]

The core of Pakistans success has to be the young guns,I feel we have about 10-13 players that should be monitored these players are yet to play internationals

1:Sahibzada Farhaan:What a talent this man is plays pace good and plays spin well and scores of spin bowling,with the right people around him expect him to play for Pakistan in the coming years

2:Saif Badarf what little I have seen of him this man in the future will be Pakistans answear to modern day batting he is known for striking the ball cleanly and can strike at 100 he wasn't well used by Lahore Qalandars or Sindh in the PAK cup but the talent is evident.Lahore Qalandars have been excellent with their academy he just needs to start playing first class cricket and become a good run scorer if he doesn't then teams will continue to play him at no7 like Sindh did when he belongs at No5 atleast

3:Umair Masood:Good young wicketkeeper batsmen,Attacking is how he plays like most wicketkeepers in Pakistan. I wouldn't rate him really high it's just that he has the potential to exceed expectations again he needs to play lots of FC cricket to become noticed. In Pakistan even if you are a batsmen they put you at no7 so to get noticed you need to play FC cricket in First class cricket you get to bat at a higher position like opening or at a vacant spot.

4:Hussain Talat:The hype needs to be removed from him he is a good cricketer but he can't simply be just another Pakistani batsmen,he needs lots of determination and he also has to perform in FC cricket I hope he does well and is a really promising cricketer overall

5:Saad Ali:At the present moment we don't really need Saad Ali but in the future a player like him will be needed he works hard on his game he has played a good amount of FC cricket and he has got hunger for runs.I think he will play for Pakistan in Tests and Odis once Hafeez and Malik leave the scene.

6:Imam ul haq:I like Imam but not for Odis he is a good opener and has a good FC record he has a very good technique if he is going to play for Pakistan which I think he will do it has to be in Test match cricket.out of all the other cricketers I feel Imam has the greatest technique and he has improved over the last year which is very impressive.

7:Saud Shakeel:He has a good technique and is one of the best young batsmen in Pakistan currently again Frst class cricket has helped him massively.Anouther test match specialist.

8:Usama Mir:This guy in my books is the best talent in Pakistan currently if he works on his action and works hard for about 1-2 years this guy will win Pakistan a lot of matches wonderful bowler with his height he will generally get more bounce and for a legit that is key he also has a good leg spinner and decent Googly but he shouldn't concentrate too much on variations he should get that action tip top then all he needs is 2 variations the leggie and Googly.


9:Amad butt:He is classed as an alrounder bowls around 135Kph and has a decent enough technique to bat also has quite a few power shots one thing he should concentrate on is his lengths he tends to be a pie chucker if someone can hit him for a boundry or two but he has the foundation of becoming a good alrounder,He needs to be monitored closely.

10:Ahmed Bashir:he at the moment has got good pace 138kph if he is to develop then he needs to be worked on hardly by his coach like Hassan Ali has improved about 3 kph so the same can happen with Ahmed.This is why this type of player needs a star like Wasim Akram to teach him a couple of skills like swinging the ball and getting reverse swing.Very good pace option going foward.

11:Ethisham sultan: I don't know much about him but I've heard he bowls a bit like Tim Southee if this is true he should work on his swing and stamina as well as making sure he can hit 135 kph regular I think he is anouther serious prospect and again another player coming out from the Lahore Qalandars academy.

12:Sameen Gul: I again don't know much about him but I know he is pretty nippy and was quite good at the U19 competition a PSL contract will definitely make him a better bowler.

13:Kamran ghulam:He is a hard hitting alrounder that is quite a good batsmen a think he has to be anouther player who has to be groomed and should be given more oppritunities in PAK A squad or in the PSL because he is a very good utility cricketer that can bat and bowl

What do you think?

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Good comprehensive list.Add Ahsan Ali to it as well .There was this guy named Zeeshan who was also a pretty good bat [MENTION=138980]TalentSpotterPk[/MENTION]

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Good comprehensive list.Add Ahsan Ali to it as well .There was this guy named Zeeshan who was also a pretty good bat [MENTION=138980]TalentSpotterPk[/MENTION]

Yes OP's list is quite good in my opinion.

Saad Ali is the one who does not fit the bill. For Tests he can in future but He needs 1000 runs FC season to do that.


In Odis Saad will bat with 75 78 Sr if he averages 40 which isn't acceptance.



I would add Ahsan Ali, Zeeshan Malik, Naveed Malik, Atif Jabbar, Salman Irshad, Asad Raza, Agha Salman & Afraz Khoso to the List.


Sadaf Hussain & Irfanullah Shah can make it too if they improve their fitness which is possible.

 

[Billy1999]

Yes OP's list is quite good in my opinion.

Saad Ali is the one who does not fit the bill. For Tests he can in future but He needs 1000 runs FC season to do that.


In Odis Saad will bat with 75 78 Sr if he averages 40 which isn't acceptance.

Like Zeeshan Malik,Irfanaullah shah,Afraz Khoso



I would add Ahsan Ali, Zeeshan Malik, Naveed Malik, Atif Jabbar, Salman Irshad, Asad Raza, Agha Salman & Afraz Khoso to the List.


Sadaf Hussain & Irfanullah Shah can make it too if they improve their fitness which is possible.

I like Zeeshan Malik,Irfanaullah Shah,Atif Jabbar,Agha Salman,Afraz Khoso and Ahsan Ali.

I don't agree with the point on Saad Ali he can be a great player and has a decent First class average if only the coaches work on him and train him properly.

As far as Ahsan Ali is concerned I think he is the sought of guy that in a 5 match series would make 50 off 30 balls but for the rest of the series he wouldn't do great his FC AND LIST A RECORD SUGGEST THAT but he has talent and I hope that he gets selected in a PSL team as he is an attacking batsmen
He has done quite good in FC cricket and he should hope to make more runs so he can get in the selectors books

Naveed Malik is a bit too old now so I don't think the selectors have him in there plans unless he has 2 extraordinary Seasons

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

for me Talat is the one who should be drafted in, Saif badar needs to have some domestic performances first.


Even though its a risk i think Talat should target the number 6 spot in odis, he is a strong boy, a powerful hitter and not bat at rotating strike

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

I like Zeeshan Malik,Irfanaullah Shah,Atif Jabbar,Agha Salman,Afraz Khoso and Ahsan Ali.

I don't agree with the point on Saad Ali he can be a great player and has a decent First class average if only the coaches work on him and train him properly.

As far as Ahsan Ali is concerned I think he is the sought of guy that in a 5 match series would make 50 off 30 balls but for the rest of the series he wouldn't do great his FC AND LIST A RECORD SUGGEST THAT but he has talent and I hope that he gets selected in a PSL team as he is an attacking batsmen
He has done quite good in FC cricket and he should hope to make more runs so he can get in the selectors books

Naveed Malik is a bit too old now so I don't think the selectors have him in there plans unless he has 2 extraordinary Seasons

Stats alone are meaningless. You have to see Stats in Context.


If a player is given inconsistent chances and is never sure of his position than He can never deliver. Look at the number of FC and List A matches the guy played in last 6 years.absolutely peanuts.


At one time he had to play from Larkana region. Does it tell you something ?


The Guy has 3 Fc hundreds with 2 of those being double tons. His first Fc hundred was a double ton. Only 2 other Pak players have debut Fc hundred a double ton. He averaged 42 that season and was dropped nect season. 4 years later he was given consistent chances by NBP thanks to BPL and the result was 2 FC hundreds @47


The way Sahibzada who was averaging 15 in List A was picked for PC because of Eye of 3 Guys plus his recent Fc form for Peshawar in the same way Ahsan deserved to be picked because of his televised T20 matches performances last season plus his Fc performances.


Ge merited selection more because Sharjeel & Shahzaib were suspended yet Ramiz Raja jnr was picked ahead of Ahsan.


Soumya was averaging 17 in List A when he made Odi debut for BD.


Saad Ali is good but domestic SR is not equal to Int Strike Rate. Take the example of Sharjeel. So Saad's list A strike rate won't be reproducible in Int Cricket as our List A is not competitively by any stretch of imagination.

 

[Bewal Express]

Yes OP's list is quite good in my opinion.

Saad Ali is the one who does not fit the bill. For Tests he can in future but He needs 1000 runs FC season to do that.


In Odis Saad will bat with 75 78 Sr if he averages 40 which isn't acceptance.



I would add Ahsan Ali, Zeeshan Malik, Naveed Malik, Atif Jabbar, Salman Irshad, Asad Raza, Agha Salman & Afraz Khoso to the List.


Sadaf Hussain & Irfanullah Shah can make it too if they improve their fitness which is possible.

Irfan chucks the ball and will be called as soon he bowls in front of an international audience.

 

[Hiraeth]

Ehtisham is nothing like Southee and he already bowls 135 km/h +

 

[Hamza_]

Sahibzada Farhan is a fantastic talent.

 

[Billy1999]

Ehtisham is nothing like Southee and he already bowls 135 km/h +

He has a Southee action but of course some differences

 

[MMHS]

What's point of this thread, when Malik, MoHa, Azhar, Kamran, Gul, Tanvir, Wahab, Umar, Shehzad, Anwar Ali ... has better chance to make 2019 WC squad more than any one mentioned here?

 

[Hamza_]

What's point of this thread, when Malik, MoHa, Azhar, Kamran, Gul, Tanvir, Wahab, Umar, Shehzad, Anwar Ali ... has better chance to make 2019 WC squad more than any one mentioned here?

Hoping Inzi can get his act right....

 

[MMHS]

Hoping Inzi can get his act right....

How?

If PAK makes the SF, he'll get ammunition to bring at least 3 more 35+ players in the name of experience, which to his excuse, worked. You are excited with Shadab, but not everyone in this list will be fortunate like him at PSL (scope to perform).

I'll put more money on Asad, than Farhan and on Gul than Sameen, to play an ODI first.

 

[Hamza_]

How?

If PAK makes the SF, he'll get ammunition to bring at least 3 more 35+ players in the name of experience, which to his excuse, worked. You are excited with Shadab, but not everyone in this list will be fortunate like him at PSL (scope to perform).

I'll put more money on Asad, than Farhan and on Gul than Sameen, to play an ODI first.

[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] Farhan is a very very fine prospect hope you've seen him bat. I'm sure he will be picked in PSL, Also a member of selection committee (Wasti I think) backs him and selected him for regional team. So we may see him soon..

And Hafeez should be dropped, Anyone watching the game can see how much Hafeez struggles, Not even club level batsman.

 

[last_knight]

What's point of this thread, when Malik, MoHa, Azhar, Kamran, Gul, Tanvir, Wahab, Umar, Shehzad, Anwar Ali ... has better chance to make 2019 WC squad more than any one mentioned here?

MA did say he reads PP every now and then.
There are two spots available in Test Team.
Amin/Rizwan may get into ODIs through Tests and replace NT.

OTOH, Has it occurred to Sarfaraz that only way NT gets selected for Tests is as a Captain and for that, Sarfaraz winning few ODIs won't be good for NT.

Sarfaraz on Hafeez vs SA. "Hafeez bhai played well and was going after the bowlers".

(He may not get to play a test match, but I still rate Rizwan as the best test-batsman in Pakistan)

 

[last_knight]

[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] Farhan is a very very fine prospect hope you've seen him bat. I'm sure he will be picked in PSL, Also a member of selection committee (Wasti I think) backs him and selected him for regional team. So we may see him soon..

And Hafeez should be dropped, Anyone watching the game can see how much Hafeez struggles, Not even club level batsman.

Sarfaraz actually have SAID IT that Hafeez Bhai was going after bowlers.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

MA did say he reads PP every now and then.
There are two spots available in Test Team.
Amin/Rizwan may get into ODIs through Tests and replace NT.

OTOH, Has it occurred to Sarfaraz that only way NT gets selected for Tests is as a Captain and for that, Sarfaraz winning few ODIs won't be good for NT.

Sarfaraz on Hafeez vs SA. "Hafeez bhai played well and was going after the bowlers".

(He may not get to play a test match, but I still rate Rizwan as the best test-batsman in Pakistan)

Please forget that Quaid e Azam trophy of 2-3 years ago and live in present. He has serious 3-4 technical issues in his batting atm. Both against Pace & Spin.

 

[Lupe]

I would like to see Hussain Talat or Saad Ali come in and replace Mohammed Hafeez in due course. Would also like to see an opener to replace Azhar Ali as he isn't a ODI player and never will be a ODI player much like Asad Shafiq. So stop wasting time with him, and bring in another youngster and give him a consistent run. As so far all the youngsters i.e. Shadab Khan, Hassan Ali, Babar Azam etc. have performed much better then the seniors such as Mohammed Hafeez, Azhar Ali, Ahmed Shehzad etc. in the team.

 

[last_knight]

Please forget that Quaid e Azam trophy of 2-3 years ago and live in present. He has serious 3-4 technical issues in his batting atm. Both against Pace & Spin.

As i said, imagine Azhar Ali batting at #6 in ODIs. The issues are not in his batting technique, has more to do with the requirement of the situation. Anyway bro, he may not play a test again and the only way we can figure it out is if he plays some. I will get over with this with time.

 

[Hamza_]

Sarfaraz actually have SAID IT that Hafeez Bhai was going after bowlers.

Sarfraz is a joke.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

As i said, imagine Azhar Ali batting at #6 in ODIs. The issues are not in his batting technique, has more to do with the requirement of the situation. Anyway bro, he may not play a test again and the only way we can figure it out is if he plays some. I will get over with this with time.

No.


Rizwan's work ethics are just amazing.


I loved his fitness and fielding. His batting developing technical issues with time ****** me off and frustrated me because Rizwan is your Kohli in the field who would lift entire team's fitness and fielding plus his energy level is awesome.


1. Needs to reduce his hyperactivity at Crease while batting.

2. Needs to be still while facing pacers with proper weight division. Weight should not be on heels and should have firm base tp execute shots

3. Should not commit to early on the front foot against pacers. Fast medium pacers trouble him when they bowl at his neck. Doesn't transfers weight quickly on backfoot, pivot is slow hence either he opems up or top edges while attempting hook. Like Yousuf he doesn't have enough time to Duck as he picks length late so only choice is to work on his footwork and develop hook.


4. Develop sweep shot against spinners and practice very hard against leggies reading them from the hand. Learn to use soft hands and rotate strike.


Rectify his technique at NCA. Implement changes in domestic. Score heavily again, top charts again and make a comeback as a better improved Batsman.



What I said while quoting you was wrt immediate future only.


Rizwan is a guy who can turn games based on fielding only but He cannot survive as a Specialist fielder as batting is his main domain. When he first started he performed quite well at number 5 and number 6 (if I remember correctly) aswell. So He can to Cash oppurtunities whether they are at 5 or 6 even. Only the argument against anybody at number 6 is against Akmal because He is worst finisher irrespective of Ststs and will lose you 9/10 games when finishing role is required because his Mental game is worst. He (probably) even forgets that midwicket is not inside the ring rather is on the boundary

 

[Hamza_]

No.


Rizwan's work ethics are just amazing.


I loved his fitness and fielding. His batting developing technical issues with time ****** me off and frustrated me because Rizwan is your Kohli in the field who would lift entire team's fitness and fielding plus his energy level is awesome.


1. Needs to reduce his hyperactivity at Crease while batting.

2. Needs to be still while facing pacers with proper weight division. Weight should not be on heels and should have firm base tp execute shots

3. Should not commit to early on the front foot against pacers. Fast medium pacers trouble him when they bowl at his neck. Doesn't transfers weight quickly on backfoot, pivot is slow hence either he opems up or top edges while attempting hook. Like Yousuf he doesn't have enough time to Duck as he picks length late so only choice is to work on his footwork and develop hook.


4. Develop sweep shot against spinners and practice very hard against leggies reading them from the hand. Learn to use soft hands and rotate strike.


Rectify his technique at NCA. Implement changes in domestic. Score heavily again, top charts again and make a comeback as a better improved Batsman.



What I said while quoting you was wrt immediate future only.


Rizwan is a guy who can turn games based on fielding only but He cannot survive as a Specialist fielder as batting is his main domain. When he first started he performed quite well at number 5 and number 6 (if I remember correctly) aswell. So He can to Cash oppurtunities whether they are at 5 or 6 even. Only the argument against anybody at number 6 is against Akmal because He is worst finisher irrespective of Ststs and will lose you 9/10 games when finishing role is required because his Mental game is worst. He (probably) even forgets that midwicket is not inside the ring rather is on the boundary

What do you have to say about our new jhootay kaptaan jee? Who can't drop a senior.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

What do you have to say about our new jhootay kaptaan jee? Who can't drop a senior.

Will comment after I watch his Press Talk personally.

Sarfraz is not Imran Khan with all the powers to call shots. He is a New Captain and He cannot dominate seniors (Malik, Hafeez, Azhar) otherwise He will be shown the door through groupings.


Don't encourage " Jhoot " but he might have said this (if he did) unintensionally while he tried to be diplomatic and supportive of the Pro in media but could not structure his argument well enough while translating his thoughts into English.


Sarfraz is my Captain. Yes He represents Me. I will criticise him when needed but I am not willing to call my Captain as " Jhoota "


When he goes on the ground He leads Me. He leads Pakistan. It's defamatory to call him Jhoota.


Sarfraz Ahmed might disagree with my religious beliefs, he might even abuse me or my beliefs due to hate or disagreement but but


Isskay Seenay mein Quran hai which is my Life. So I won't call or write Him as a " Jhoota "


I am Sorry please don't mind but my religious sentiments are hurt quite badly

 

[Hamza_]

Will comment after I watch his Press Talk personally.

Sarfraz is not Imran Khan with all the powers to call shots. He is a New Captain and He cannot dominate seniors (Malik, Hafeez, Azhar) otherwise He will be shown the door through groupings.


Don't encourage " Jhoot " but he might have said this (if he did) unintensionally while he tried to be diplomatic and supportive of the Pro in media but could not structure his argument well enough while translating his thoughts into English.


Sarfraz is my Captain. Yes He represents Me. I will criticise him when needed but I am not willing to call my Captain as " Jhoota "


When he goes on the ground He leads Me. He leads Pakistan. It's defamatory to call him Jhoota.


Sarfraz Ahmed might disagree with my religious beliefs, he might even abuse me or my beliefs due to hate or disagreement but but


Isskay Seenay mein Quran hai which is my Life. So I won't call or write Him as a " Jhoota "


I am Sorry please don't mind but my religious sentiments are hurt quite badly

Im hurt as well with this shameless backing of MoHa

 

[Billy1999]

What's point of this thread, when Malik, MoHa, Azhar, Kamran, Gul, Tanvir, Wahab, Umar, Shehzad, Anwar Ali ... has better chance to make 2019 WC squad more than any one mentioned here?

I think inzi will keep 2-4 seniors

He will kick Tanvir out,Gul will hardly turn his arm over by then,Wahab will loose his place,I don't see Kamran playing anymore and Anwar Ali isn't in contention

I feel We can have Azhar,Hafeez,Malik till 2019

But the question is what are we going to do afterwards so we need the talent identified

 

[Billy1999]

No.


Rizwan's work ethics are just amazing.


I loved his fitness and fielding. His batting developing technical issues with time ****** me off and frustrated me because Rizwan is your Kohli in the field who would lift entire team's fitness and fielding plus his energy level is awesome.


1. Needs to reduce his hyperactivity at Crease while batting.

2. Needs to be still while facing pacers with proper weight division. Weight should not be on heels and should have firm base tp execute shots

3. Should not commit to early on the front foot against pacers. Fast medium pacers trouble him when they bowl at his neck. Doesn't transfers weight quickly on backfoot, pivot is slow hence either he opems up or top edges while attempting hook. Like Yousuf he doesn't have enough time to Duck as he picks length late so only choice is to work on his footwork and develop hook.


4. Develop sweep shot against spinners and practice very hard against leggies reading them from the hand. Learn to use soft hands and rotate strike.


Rectify his technique at NCA. Implement changes in domestic. Score heavily again, top charts again and make a comeback as a better improved Batsman.



What I said while quoting you was wrt immediate future only.


Rizwan is a guy who can turn games based on fielding only but He cannot survive as a Specialist fielder as batting is his main domain. When he first started he performed quite well at number 5 and number 6 (if I remember correctly) aswell. So He can to Cash oppurtunities whether they are at 5 or 6 even. Only the argument against anybody at number 6 is against Akmal because He is worst finisher irrespective of Ststs and will lose you 9/10 games when finishing role is required because his Mental game is worst. He (probably) even forgets that midwicket is not inside the ring rather is on the boundary

I like Rizwan when he first came he looked like a diamond with a bit of dirt on he looks to still be a good cricketer
But he has to work hard on his game.

 

[Titan24]

Ghulam Mudassar is a real talent as well. Needs to be refined

 

[Fantasy]

This is a fantastic list to go through and OP has a good eye by the looks of it.Unfortunately these players are not going to get a chance before players like Gul,Asad and Anwar to name a few,as [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] said.

The one guy whom I am most looking forward to has to be Saif Badar.He is someone who can be the answer for Pakistan batting in future.A modern day player.He is someone who can accelerate at will and I think he is the only young batsman in Pakistan who has the technique to hit big against any type of bowler.Knows how to use his body to get the elevation and hit big.He also is a very good fielder and a very handy leg spinner.

Umair Masood and Zeeshan Malik are the other batsmen whom I am really looking forward to along with Saud Shakeel,who can be the answer in test matches for Pakistan in middle order.

Among the all rounders I am looking forward to Talat Hussain and Ammad Butt.

Among the fast bowlers I can just think of one bowler Sameen Gul.He is not the fastest but so far what I have seen off him is that he comes across as someone who can seam the ball and is very accurate.Also a decent tail ender and a good fielder.

Spin blwling resources are very good for Pakiatan with Usama,Asgar being the top notch.

 

[Bleedgreen4ever]

Sami Aslam
Fakhar Zaman
Babar
Haris/Fawad
Sarfaraz
Saif Badar/Hasan Mohsin
Imad
Amir
Sameen Gul
Junaid
Hassan
Shadab/Faheem(12th)

This should be our best XI after 2019 WC

 

[Billy1999]

Ghulam Mudassar is a real talent as well. Needs to be refined

He is but Aquib javed might ruin him I'm on an edge with him

 

[Billy1999]

Should aim for a team like this by 2023 World Cup

Zaman
Farhaan
Babar C
Harris Sohail
Saif Badar
Rizwan
Shadab
Fahim
Hassan
Amir ?
Ahmed Bashir/Ethisham sultan/Usman Khan