Proposed 27th Amendment: Dual nationality to be abolished

[Ball Blazer]

In a major constitutional development, the proposed 27th Amendment has introduced significant changes regarding citizenship and the appointment process of the Chief Election Commissioner (CEC).

According to the amendment proposal, Pakistan aims to end the practice of dual citizenship. Under the new law, any Pakistani who obtains citizenship of another country will be required to give up their Pakistani nationality. The move is said to be aimed at ensuring national loyalty and reducing conflicts of interest among public office holders and citizens holding dual nationality.

Another key feature of the amendment is the change in the method of appointing the Chief Election Commissioner. The proposal suggests transferring the authority of appointment to the Judicial Commission, a move expected to make the selection process more transparent and independent from political influence.

If passed, the 27th Amendment would mark a major shift in Pakistan’s constitutional framework, redefining citizenship rules and strengthening the democratic process through institutional reforms.

Moreover, Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif’s government is preparing to pass the 27th Constitutional Amendment in Pakistan. The move comes more than a year after the government made changes to key laws.

The proposed amendments include creating a constitutional court and appointing executive magistrates. They also plan to transfer judges, remove protections for the provincial share in the NFC Award, and amend Article 243. Furthermore, the government wants to return education and population planning to federal control. Another goal is to resolve the deadlock over appointing the election commission.

27th Amendment proposes end to dual citizenship, CEC reforms

In a major constitutional development, the proposed 27th Amendment has introduced significant changes regarding citizenship and the

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[Varun]

Which way will British Pakistanis on this forum swing?

 

[rpant_gabba]

@mominsaigol @Technics 1210

are you guys keeping your green passport?

 

[Vikram1989]

I guess this is pak forum and only for Pakistanis slogan will end. @uppercut

 

[JaDed]

Oh welcome to our world another flex that we hold dual nationality and loyalty will be over lol.. The establishment has realised the danger of overseas Pakistanis actually seeing the issues Pak has and clearly wants them out and not pointing it out.

 

[IronShield]

Oh welcome to our world another flex that we hold dual nationality and loyalty will be over lol.. The establishment has realised the danger of overseas Pakistanis actually seeing the issues Pak has and clearly wants them out and not pointing it out.

The establishment is filled with dual nationals!! It will be interesting to see how they cope.

 

[cricketfan24]

excellent news - no more swinging both ways

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Which way will British Pakistanis on this forum swing?

Not a fan of this. I am obviously British, which is why Indians hate me so much. But I have always liked the safety net of dual citizenship just in case.

 

[JaDed]

The establishment is filled with dual nationals!! It will be interesting to see how they cope.

The ruling class will probably bring in backdoor entry ..

 

[DeadlyVenom]

The establishment is filled with dual nationals!! It will be interesting to see how they cope.

I suspect that this is to keep them in line. I doubt this will go too far.

Overall I'm not opposed to it.

 

[IronShield]

excellent news - no more swinging both ways

Let's be honest, no one is going to swing both ways unless you have a reason to cling onto Pakistani nationality. It will be simply giving up Pakistani nationality like overseas Indians do when they take up nationality of other countries.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Some ppl digging graves from themselves

 

[Varun]

Pakistan's population can reduce by 10 million overnight I suppose.

 

[IronShield]

The ruling class will probably bring in backdoor entry ..

No doubt, they will find a workaround.

Take the case of Muhammad Sarwar (an ex UK MP), he became involved in Pakistani politics and renounced UK citizenship to take up Governor of Punjab position. When Imran government fell, he left politics, reapplied for British citizenship and got it within two days as your renunciation is only on paper and can be resumed at anytime. His son Annas Sarwar is the leader of Labour Party in Scotland and most likely to be first minister at the next election.

So will Pakistan allow this type of pause in their citizenship is the question. If they do then they will take citizenship of other countries that allow in effect a temporary pause, and then either take up the Pakistani or foreign citizenship as and when it when its opportune for them and their families. They can keep on doing the citizenship switcharoos as much as they like.

 

[cricketfan24]

Let's be honest, no one is going to swing both ways unless you have a reason to cling onto Pakistani nationality. It will be simply giving up Pakistani nationality like overseas Indians do when they take up nationality of other countries.

voting rights?

 

[rpant_gabba]

I've asked this before.

What does citizenship mean to guys? is it simply way to leach or do you have allegiance to the constitution?

not a big deal say between Aus and UK, but got to eb huge difference Uk/Aus and Pak.

 

[Red-Indian]

The establishment is filled with dual nationals!! It will be interesting to see how they cope.

Conceptually, I don't understand dual citizenship. You're either a citizen of a country so you owe it your loyalty and it owes you your rights or you're...not.

How can you be loyal to two countries?

 

[IronShield]

voting rights?

What vote, its a moot point? IK won the election but is in jail

 

[HalBass9]

Filtering out true sons of soni dharti.

The goal seems to be to remove them from the equation entirely, to end the debate over overseas Pakistani voters once and for all. Under this approach, expatriates in the Middle East would have to physically travel back to Pakistan if they wish to cast their votes.

Not appose to it at all. Pakistani living in Pakistan should own all of the responsibility of Pakistan.

 

[IMMY69]

I like this.

If you're Pakistani then be a Pakistani.
These overseas Brits who keep dual nationality and harp on about Pakistan really do my head in

 

[rpant_gabba]

Filtering out true sons of soni dharti.

The goal seems to be to remove them from the equation entirely, to end the debate over overseas Pakistani voters once and for all. Under this approach, expatriates in the Middle East would have to physically travel back to Pakistan if they wish to cast their votes.

Not appose to it at all. Pakistani living in Pakistan should own all of the responsibility of Pakistan.

As long as they haven't acquired citizenship of another country, they should have a say regardless of where they live.

 

[JaDed]

I've asked this before.

What does citizenship mean to guys? is it simply way to leach or do you have allegiance to the constitution?

not a big deal say between Aus and UK, but got to eb huge difference Uk/Aus and Pak.

To me there is a difference between UK and US, for all US fault this is the first time in a decade I have been here felt some sense of resentment from local that too hardly 0.1% of something..

My issue with UK remains that is very tough for me to pledge allegiance to Monarchy.. I do like US constitution including right to have guns..

 

[JaDed]

I like this.

If you're Pakistani then be a Pakistani.
These overseas Brits who keep dual nationality and harp on about Pakistan really do my head in

Lol hope its sarcasm sir

 

[Suleiman]

as I have said before, I have transcended beyond the concept of the man made construct of nationality.

Having said that Pakistan is and always will be an abode for all Muslims around the world- no matter what that little booklet says

 

[rpant_gabba]

To me there is a difference between UK and US, for all US fault this is the first time in a decade I have been here felt some sense of resentment from local that too hardly 0.1% of something..

My issue with UK remains that is very tough for me to pledge allegiance to Monarchy.. I do like US constitution including right to have guns..

If you are in the SFbay area, let me know. I'm a range safety officer with lots of toys.

 

[HalBass9]

As long as they haven't acquired citizenship of another country, they should have a say regardless of where they live.

That is what I meant.

 

[Bewal Express]

Filtering out true sons of soni dharti.

The goal seems to be to remove them from the equation entirely, to end the debate over overseas Pakistani voters once and for all. Under this approach, expatriates in the Middle East would have to physically travel back to Pakistan if they wish to cast their votes.

Not appose to it at all. Pakistani living in Pakistan should own all of the responsibility of Pakistan.

Overseas PKs have never voted and IKs 2/3 majority on the 8th February was with local votes. The practical impact of this is nil

 

[sweep_shot]

as I have said before, I have transcended beyond the concept of the man made construct of nationality

Yup. Same here.

National identity is artificial. It can change very easily.

Only Muslim identity is good enough for me. Anything else is for paperwork/legal purposes.

 

[HalBass9]

Overseas PKs have never voted and IKs 2/3 majority on the 8th February was with local votes. The practical impact of this is nil

You’re absolutely right, this is a distraction designed to mask the real intention. What’s unfolding isn’t about overseas voting, it’s about consolidating power. The 27th Amendment represents a complete takeover by the establishment. Whatever form of democracy Pakistan once had will effectively cease to exist after it.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Conceptually, I don't understand dual citizenship. You're either a citizen of a country so you owe it your loyalty and it owes you your rights or you're...not.

How can you be loyal to two countries?

It first depends how you define loyalty to a country.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Overseas PKs have never voted and IKs 2/3 majority on the 8th February was with local votes. The practical impact of this is nil

I don't think it has to do with PTI. Seems a threat to establishment politicians more than anything.

 

[IMMY69]

Lol hope its sarcasm sir

It is sir.
You can't change what you you feel in your heart, taking away a passport is going to make zero difference.

 

[rpant_gabba]

It first depends how you define loyalty to a country.

go ahead, define it. What does citizenship mean to you?

I asked you this question before I think.

 

[Bewal Express]

You’re absolutely right, this is a distraction designed to mask the real intention. What’s unfolding isn’t about overseas voting, it’s about consolidating power. The 27th Amendment represents a complete takeover by the establishment. Whatever form of democracy Pakistan once had will effectively cease to exist after it.

PK is in dark place, and it has been for a while. I see no good outcome for the 250mn but the couple of 2000 in with the murderous chief will have a whale of a time and haraaam money coming out of every orifice

 

[Bewal Express]

I don't think it has to do with PTI. Seems a threat to establishment politicians more than anything.

The established politicians have voluntarily decided to become sulaatkaars. This is has every thing to do with the PTI because the PTI is the people and Munir and Co hate the people

 

[DeadlyVenom]

go ahead, define it. What does citizenship mean to you?

I asked you this question before I think.

Citizenship is essentially a legal status, it is very black and white.

Concepts such as loyalty or belonging are where the matter becomes complex.

And I dont think removing dual nationality addresses those issues. As an example, despite becoming US citizens, most Indian origin people I have interacted with, still have deep loyalty, and arguably a preference, for India over America.

 

[JaDed]

as I have said before, I have transcended beyond the concept of the man made construct of nationality.

Having said that Pakistan is and always will be an abode for all Muslims around the world- no matter what that little booklet says

I understand your point , this is similar point put across by Sikh Gurus and The transcended Hindu Sadhus.

But your second sentence doesn’t really feel you have completely given into the construct of no-nationalism.. this idea of yours having best of both worlds is possible because you are in a first world country…

 

[IronShield]

What nationality will Nawaz sharif's sons give up? UK or Pakistan?

 

[JaDed]

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And I dont think removing dual nationality addresses those issues. As an example, despite becoming US citizens, most Indian origin people I have interacted with, still have deep loyalty, and arguably a preference, for India over America.

Not the first generation.. I’m yet to meet first generation immigrant Indian that has more loyalty to India than America if anything they are way more aware regarding issues plaguing both countries and don’t really get offended easily when one points out the flaws in either on.

 

[Suleiman]

I understand your point , this is similar point put across by Sikh Gurus and The transcended Hindu Sadhus.

But your second sentence doesn’t really feel you have completely given into the construct of no-nationalism.. this idea of yours having best of both worlds is possible because you are in a first world country…

Second sentence is more of what every Muslim hopes every “Muslim country” aspires to be. It’s an ideal to aspire to even though ground reality in Pak is very different when you have so called Pak nationals fighting each other over dumb things

In Islam there is no concept of identifying and separating based on “nationalism” all these countries like Pak, India, ban etc etc are all man made concepts. Same with their flags. None of them chosen by them, but foreigners

Same with Middle East: same with Africa. All cut up and Middle East flags are a lot of times copy and paste of each other as Brit’s were in a rush lol

Think of how stupid it is we fight over these things handed to us by former tyrants

 

[DeadlyVenom]

It means you agree to defend to the constitution the country even more so when you migrate to that country and seek that "legal status" Don;t you take an oath of citizenship in UK?

here it is

• "I, [Name], swear by Almighty God that, on becoming a British citizen, I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles the Third, His heirs and successors, according to law."

nonsene. is this one of this islamic taqqiya

and if they violate the oath of citizenship, they can and should be stripped of it.

Weak deflection BTW. Not surprised.

I was born in the UK so there is no oath for me.

My father took the oath. UK government felt he can take the oath, and fulfil his obligations to the UK while remaining a Pakistani citizen and accepted it.

Taqiya is a misunderstood concept and word thrown around by wannabe edge lords on X. You should try to do better than that.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Not the first generation.. I’m yet to meet first generation immigrant Indian that has more loyalty to India than America if anything they are way more aware regarding issues plaguing both countries and don’t really get offended easily when one points out the flaws in either on.

I have met some, first second third. Both here and in the UK. I don't think having dual citizenship or not has any loyalty issues or solves it.

 

[JaDed]

I have met some, first second third. Both here and in the UK. I don't think having dual citizenship or not has any loyalty issues or solves it.

The unfortunate truth is Nationalism thrusted upon immigrants makes further generation become more inclined to the country as they have to prove loyalty, it happened with Italians Irish, Jewish the list goes on..

 

[rpant_gabba]

I was born in the UK so there is no oath for me.

My father took the oath. UK government felt he can take the oath, and fulfil his obligations to the UK while remaining a Pakistani citizen and accepted it.

Taqiya is a misunderstood concept and word thrown around by wannabe edge lords on X. You should try to do better than that.

again, weak. This is simply hoping and praying that he doesn't have to choose one over the other.

Question is, which one would he choose?

 

[BouncerGuy]

TBH... everything has its own pros and cons...

 

[Patriot]

As long as they allow easy entry into Pakistan to visit family members.

 

[KingKhanWC]

TBH... everything has its own pros and cons...

Theres never a pro but always a con from these crooks in power .

This could be another simple con for them , so people have to pay high visa fees . Visas will be £125-150 . Some do 2 visits yearly , multiply this by hundreds of thousands…. With PIA back in the skies , it’s prob some brain wave idea form one of Nawazs great grandkids

 

[Bewal Express]

As long as they allow easy entry into Pakistan to visit family members.

The link with PK is already tenuous for many children born abroad.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Kinda annoying tbh, the country doesn’t function without a CNIC card.

Want a Pakistani SIM card? Need a CNIC card.

Want to connect to a shopping mall WiFi? Need a CNIC card.

Want to purchase tickets online? CNIC card.

There’s probably a dozen more examples that I can’t think of atm…

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Filtering out true sons of soni dharti.

The goal seems to be to remove them from the equation entirely, to end the debate over overseas Pakistani voters once and for all. Under this approach, expatriates in the Middle East would have to physically travel back to Pakistan if they wish to cast their votes.

Not appose to it at all. Pakistani living in Pakistan should own all of the responsibility of Pakistan.

I agree on that part. If holding a Pakistan passport means you get to vote in Pakistan elections, that is wrong. I've never done it but I suppose there will be plenty who do.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I was born in the UK so there is no oath for me.

My father took the oath. UK government felt he can take the oath, and fulfil his obligations to the UK while remaining a Pakistani citizen and accepted it.

Taqiya is a misunderstood concept and word thrown around by wannabe edge lords on X. You should try to do better than that.

I didn't even know this term taqiya until Islamophobes started throwing it around all over the internet. I don't know why you expected better from this poster, he is probably a raving hindutva.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I've asked this before.

What does citizenship mean to guys? is it simply way to leach or do you have allegiance to the constitution?

not a big deal say between Aus and UK, but got to eb huge difference Uk/Aus and Pak.

I means different thing to different people, everyone doesn't think the same. Basically all you can really ask is that the laws and constitution are respected by anyone who holds the nationality.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

again, weak. This is simply hoping and praying that he doesn't have to choose one over the other.

Question is, which one would he choose?

What scenario would he have to chose in?

Both countries have good relations, both were happy enough to offer joint citizenship.

I think your arguments around having to make a choice are pretty weak. You haven't been able to present an example of choice where this would matter.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I didn't even know this term taqiya until Islamophobes started throwing it around all over the internet. I don't know why you expected better from this poster, he is probably a raving hindutva.

The Islamaphobes have for once been quite creative. If you tell them you know nothing about this term they use it as a further example of Taqiya

 

[JaDed]

Taqiya is pillow in my language.. lol didn’t even know it means something else

 

[rpant_gabba]

I means different thing to different people, everyone doesn't think the same. Basically all you can really ask is that the laws and constitution are respected by anyone who holds the nationality.

and what do you do when have dual nationality but costitution/laws are different and you have to choose one country over another?

 

[rpant_gabba]

What scenario would he have to chose in?

Both countries have good relations, both were happy enough to offer joint citizenship.

I think your arguments around having to make a choice are pretty weak. You haven't been able to present an example of choice where this would matter.

Whatever makes you sleep at night.

 

[Major]

Good move

 

[rpant_gabba]

Does anyone hold dual citizenship wioth US and Pak here. If so whose side where on when US was droning Pak with impunity? Then there was the OBL raid.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Does anyone hold dual citizenship wioth US and Pak here. If so whose side where on when US was droning Pak with impunity? Then there was the OBL raid.

If Canada goes to war with India, and your government asks all male Canadians to join the army, would you fight alongside the Canadians against India?

 

[RexRex]

If Canada goes to war with India, and your government asks all male Canadians to join the army, would you fight alongside the Canadians against India?

It would depend on the reason. If say India invaded SriLanka and annexed it, I'm suspect rpant_gabba would have no moral qualms in being drafted into the Canadian army that wanted to help a SL liberation movement.

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[Cpt. Rishwat]

and what do you do when have dual nationality but costitution/laws are different and you have to choose one country over another?

Make a choice and pick one according to which one suits your needs best.

 

[Technics 1210]

I was born in the UK so there is no oath for me.

My father took the oath. UK government felt he can take the oath, and fulfil his obligations to the UK while remaining a Pakistani citizen and accepted it.

Taqiya is a misunderstood concept and word thrown around by wannabe edge lords on X. You should try to do better than that.

Good point. The cult must swear eternal alligience to King and country. The same establishment that raped and pillaged India.

The cult fled Incredible India for freedom but landed in abject slavery and subservience with their past masters.

Oh the pain but that's what Stockholm syndrome does.