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UJ

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Your daily protein intake?

I was just wondering how much protein you guys (that work out) consume in a day. I heard that a gram of protein per pound of weight is suitable for those working out, but to me that seems like too much of protein.
 
UJ said:
I was just wondering how much protein you guys (that work out) consume in a day. I heard that a gram of protein per pound of weight is suitable for those working out, but to me that seems like too much of protein.

yep its true.
 
UJ said:
I was just wondering how much protein you guys (that work out) consume in a day. I heard that a gram of protein per pound of weight is suitable for those working out, but to me that seems like too much of protein.
it depends what do youi wanna do ?
if you wanna get lean and cut up , the tak eless protien. more cardio and workout,
if u wanna ger big then 1 gm/lb of ur body weight !
 
Is it essential to take protien? ie. in the form of protien shakes and protien bars? its been a week since I have been working out at the gym but havent taken any protien yet, the instructor didnt tell me to take it either.
 
from_da_lost_dim3nsion said:
it depends what do youi wanna do ?
if you wanna get lean and cut up , the tak eless protien. more cardio and workout,
if u wanna ger big then 1 gm/lb of ur body weight !

Yeh I've already got a decent cut but I've been trying to put on weight so I can size up. Havent worked out proper for a few months, so getting back into it now.

Do you do 1 gram/pound?
 
Nauman said:
Is it essential to take protien? ie. in the form of protien shakes and protien bars? its been a week since I have been working out at the gym but havent taken any protien yet, the instructor didnt tell me to take it either.

You don't need protein supplements as such. They are mainly there for convenience, you can get protein from certain foods such as chicken, fish, eggs, milk, cheese to name a few.

The only way I can keep 1 gram/pound up is by taking supplements though.
 
UJ said:
Yeh I've already got a decent cut but I've been trying to put on weight so I can size up. Havent worked out proper for a few months, so getting back into it now.

Do you do 1 gram/pound?

nahhhhh ! i do wayyy less than that , i take like 70 gms/day
im more into getting lean and cut up :)
 
About 80 grams/day on average. I'm trying to hit 100g/day. That 1g/lb of body weight is for hardcore bodybuilders. For the most of us, I feel 100g/day is ideal. Protein shakes are very convenient but I try not to have more than 2-3 servings of it per day.

Apparently the ideal bodybuilders diet should consist of a Protein to Carbohydrate to Fat ratio of 40%:40%:20%. That gets ridiculously hard to calculate, but should serve as a general guideline. And for those trying to lose weight, cut down on the calorie intake!

For those average slightly overweight people who are trying to look good, have a look at this website: http://www.johnstonefitness.com/all/front/m.php

The dude made an online log of his journey to looking good. He has pictures, diet info, etc. It's incredible! And highly motivating too!
 
I worked out how much food I'd have to eat in order to get 1 gram/pound and its just way too much, even if I take protein once a day. So I think I'm going to stick to 80-100 grams if I can.

What type of foods and how many meals a day does everyone do in order to get the right mix of protein, carbs and fat?
 
UJ said:
I worked out how much food I'd have to eat in order to get 1 gram/pound and its just way too much, even if I take protein once a day. So I think I'm going to stick to 80-100 grams if I can.

What type of foods and how many meals a day does everyone do in order to get the right mix of protein, carbs and fat?
high protein diets , like tun an stuff will help, but the naturally occouring high protien diests also have high amounts of fat in them as well!!
 
Nauman said:
Is it essential to take protien? ie. in the form of protien shakes and protien bars? its been a week since I have been working out at the gym but havent taken any protien yet, the instructor didnt tell me to take it either.


Money making schemes me thinks...your better off sticking to eating chicken, fish, meat etc (grilled though). There is only so much your kidneys can take, protein supplements are pretty heavy on the kidneys.
 
Smooth_Operator said:
There is only so much your kidneys can take, protein supplements are pretty heavy on the kidneys.

Really? Didn't know that, thanks!

A friend of mine went on a hardcore protein diet a while back. All he drank were protein shakes and all he ate was fish. In fact I remember him getting so tired of the diet, he ended up eating fish in different conditions to get some change (IE cooking it and eating it hot, eating it after placing it in the fridge for a while so it was cold, etc.). That is simply way too much IMO.
 
Smooth_Operator said:
Money making schemes me thinks...your better off sticking to eating chicken, fish, meat etc (grilled though). There is only so much your kidneys can take, protein supplements are pretty heavy on the kidneys.

But wouldn't having a high protein diet by eating food instead of taking protein supplements still be bad for your kidneys since protein is still entering your body?

Protein shakes are there for convenience - eg you dont have to go cook and prepare chicken, you can just have a shake to get your protein in.
 
UJ said:
But wouldn't having a high protein diet by eating food instead of taking protein supplements still be bad for your kidneys since protein is still entering your body?

Protein shakes are there for convenience - eg you dont have to go cook and prepare chicken, you can just have a shake to get your protein in.

But when it is in liquid form, it travels through your kidneys.
 
High protein food

EGGS ( 1 medium size ) 6 grams
MILK ( 1 pint or 568ml) 19 grams
MILK ( 1 glass ) 6.3 grams
SOYA MILK Plain (200 ml) 6 grams
TOFU (100 g) 8 grams
LOW-FAT YOGHURT (plain) 150g 8 grams
LOW-FAT YOGHURT (fruit) 150g 6 grams
FISH (cod fillets 100g or 3.5 ounces) 21 grams
CHEESE cheddar 100g (3.5 ounces) 25 grams
ROAST BEEF ( 100g or 3.5 ounces ) 28 grams
ROAST CHICKEN 100g ( 3.5 ounces) 25 grams
OTHER MEATS AVERAGE (100g or 3.5 ounces) 25 grams
 
Alright broskis, so I've never had a protein shake even though I've been working out for a couple years now, so any of you guys who do take protein shakes, what brand do you drink or do you make it yourself?and how often do you drink them?
 
A few things I want to mention before I talk about shakes. First off, have you determined your body fat percentage, and subtracted that from your weight to determine your lean body mass? Broscience suggests that you need at least a gram of protein per pound of lean body mass, but research suggests otherwise. 0.6g per lb works just as well.

If 0.6g per lb works just as well, are you able to get that much from your food, and if not, why not? A decent serving of meat, say a couple of chicken breasts, should get you to that 0.6g/lb figure.

The more I read about shakes, the more I realize they are a scam. The dairy industry moved to skim milk in the 70s, and didn't have anything to do with the fat they had skimmed, so they inundated the market with cheese. And then they had excess whey, which they now foist on gullible weight lifters.

One last thing: the so-called "anabolic window," the hour or so post-workout where you "must" gulp down the whey shake is yet more broscience. The anabolic window actually lasts a good 48 hours post-workout. Eating and drinking immediately post-workout may actually lead to fat gain due to heightened cortisol.
 
Anyhow, I'm assuming you're in the US. If so, and you really do need to supplement your dietary protein deficiency with a shake, I would suggest Optimum Nutrition. It is pricey, but it tastes far better than generics, and the company has a somewhat better reputation than the others in the totally unregulated supplement industry.
 
A few things I want to mention before I talk about shakes. First off, have you determined your body fat percentage, and subtracted that from your weight to determine your lean body mass? Broscience suggests that you need at least a gram of protein per pound of lean body mass, but research suggests otherwise. 0.6g per lb works just as well.

If 0.6g per lb works just as well, are you able to get that much from your food, and if not, why not? A decent serving of meat, say a couple of chicken breasts, should get you to that 0.6g/lb figure.

The more I read about shakes, the more I realize they are a scam. The dairy industry moved to skim milk in the 70s, and didn't have anything to do with the fat they had skimmed, so they inundated the market with cheese. And then they had excess whey, which they now foist on gullible weight lifters.

One last thing: the so-called "anabolic window," the hour or so post-workout where you "must" gulp down the whey shake is yet more broscience. The anabolic window actually lasts a good 48 hours post-workout. Eating and drinking immediately post-workout may actually lead to fat gain due to heightened cortisol.

Aight, appreciate your comment, my bodyfat is 9%, BMI 21. I've gained 25 lbs over the last year by working out, looking to gain more, get past 165 lbs. I've heard people make big gains by drinking protein shakes so I thought I might benefit by adding that to my game.
 
Aight, appreciate your comment, my bodyfat is 9%, BMI 21. I've gained 25 lbs over the last year by working out, looking to gain more, get past 165 lbs. I've heard people make big gains by drinking protein shakes so I thought I might benefit by adding that to my game.

In that case, I would recommend Optimum Nutrition. I used to get it from GNC, but I hear you can get much better deals online, especially if you buy in bulk.

The new Muscle Milk tastes great too (the previous version was positively chalky), and although you may want to look at the ingredients, it does have the advantage of being available at the freezers in most convenience stores, so if you're out of powder or forgot your mixer bottle, it works in a pinch.
 
Anyhow, I'm assuming you're in the US. If so, and you really do need to supplement your dietary protein deficiency with a shake, I would suggest Optimum Nutrition. It is pricey, but it tastes far better than generics, and the company has a somewhat better reputation than the others in the totally unregulated supplement industry.

what's the price?
 
In that case, I would recommend Optimum Nutrition. I used to get it from GNC, but I hear you can get much better deals online, especially if you buy in bulk.

The new Muscle Milk tastes great too (the previous version was positively chalky), and although you may want to look at the ingredients, it does have the advantage of being available at the freezers in most convenience stores, so if you're out of powder or forgot your mixer bottle, it works in a pinch.
Thanks, I hear this stuff taste nasty
 
Thanks, I hear this stuff taste nasty

It can take some getting used to. They can only do so much to mask the taste without having to add too much sugar. Some brands are far worse than others. The ON ones actually manage to taste rather nice, but it won't exactly mimic the taste of an ice cream shake. Also some flavors are better than others. Chocolate is often most palatable.
 
Aight will buy that later today, I guess it's worth the gains.

Before you do, just make you do your research on the raging online debates over isolates vs concentrate, Hydrolyzed vs non-Hydrolyzed, BCAA content etc. It is enough to make your head spin.
 
Before you do, just make you do your research on the raging online debates over isolates vs concentrate, Hydrolyzed vs non-Hydrolyzed, BCAA content etc. It is enough to make your head spin.

That's too much to think about bruh. I'll buy it, will deal with the consequences later.
 
I gain muscle without protein shakes. Just eat chicken and beef, sometimes fish as well.
 
I have to drink one everyday because I can't get the required protein here at uni without them. I drink the "laits go pro" chocolate shake which has 38 grams of protein, every day with breakfast. Don't think that's available outside Canada though. Since you're in America you should go with optimum nutrition gold standard.
 
protein shakes are definitely not scams or placebos. I take them and I realize they are not a magic powder that suddenly get you lean and muscular. I take them as an extra way to get calories into my diet because I don't eat enough of other foods. If you buy from a legit company, they will not disrupt anything such as your liver, kidneys or heart. However, you definitely can get gains from a natural only diet
 
I mix 2 spoons of blackstrap molasses with a few bananas and ice, mix it in a blender, you will add muscle mass without working out, I don't go gym but it seems to work for me.
 
[MENTION=22846]Nostalgic[/MENTION] bought the optimum nutrition gold standard extreme milk chocolate flavour a week ago. Cost me 100 bucks but it tastes good and I think it's gonna be worth it. Next 5 months I'm all out bulking.
 
I have been lifting weights for about 8 years now and am about 200 pounds at 5ft 10. I have never used any protein shakes but i try to eat atleast one to two non-veg meals everyday and try to keep my rice/roti/breads/carbs low.
 
A few things I want to mention before I talk about shakes. First off, have you determined your body fat percentage, and subtracted that from your weight to determine your lean body mass? Broscience suggests that you need at least a gram of protein per pound of lean body mass, but research suggests otherwise. 0.6g per lb works just as well.

If 0.6g per lb works just as well, are you able to get that much from your food, and if not, why not? A decent serving of meat, say a couple of chicken breasts, should get you to that 0.6g/lb figure.

The more I read about shakes, the more I realize they are a scam. The dairy industry moved to skim milk in the 70s, and didn't have anything to do with the fat they had skimmed, so they inundated the market with cheese. And then they had excess whey, which they now foist on gullible weight lifters.

One last thing: the so-called "anabolic window," the hour or so post-workout where you "must" gulp down the whey shake is yet more broscience. The anabolic window actually lasts a good 48 hours post-workout. Eating and drinking immediately post-workout may actually lead to fat gain due to heightened cortisol.

So how is it a scam? It is merely a more convenient form of protein, and students and working professionals in particular appreciate the fact.

[MENTION=142256]Pakistanian[/MENTION] On topic, I used ON WGS back when it used to be affordable in India. It is still dirt cheap in the US, so I would highly recommend that. Btw, I am surprised that you gained 25 lbs of muscle with a regular diet, keeping your body-fat so low. Are you young?
 
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So how is it a scam? It is merely a more convenient form of protein, and students and working professionals in particular appreciate the fact.

[MENTION=142256]Pakistanian[/MENTION] On topic, I used ON WGS back when it used to be affordable in India. It is still dirt cheap in the US, so I would highly recommend that. Btw, I am surprised that you gained 25 lbs of muscle with a regular diet, keeping your body-fat so low. Are you young?

Genetics, I'm 21 so not that young. :misbah3
 
A few things I want to mention before I talk about shakes. First off, have you determined your body fat percentage, and subtracted that from your weight to determine your lean body mass? Broscience suggests that you need at least a gram of protein per pound of lean body mass, but research suggests otherwise. 0.6g per lb works just as well.

If 0.6g per lb works just as well, are you able to get that much from your food, and if not, why not? A decent serving of meat, say a couple of chicken breasts, should get you to that 0.6g/lb figure.

The more I read about shakes, the more I realize they are a scam. The dairy industry moved to skim milk in the 70s, and didn't have anything to do with the fat they had skimmed, so they inundated the market with cheese. And then they had excess whey, which they now foist on gullible weight lifters.

One last thing: the so-called "anabolic window," the hour or so post-workout where you "must" gulp down the whey shake is yet more broscience. The anabolic window actually lasts a good 48 hours post-workout. Eating and drinking immediately post-workout may actually lead to fat gain due to heightened cortisol.

Broscience > Conventional science.
 
I dont believe in protein shakes. I dont know the technicalities but just the whispers that they aren't good for one's long term health are enough to scare me away.
 
I dont believe in protein shakes. I dont know the technicalities but just the whispers that they aren't good for one's long term health are enough to scare me away.

As a student I have no choice. I get plenty of protein in my regular diet but not enough to bulk. Will be a different story when I go back to Pakistan for the summer where I can eat whatever I want and as much as I want. I'm pretty sure most students and other busy people will appreciate the convenience of protein shakes
 
Take a big botti of raw beef put it in a blender, add 1 glass milk and 2 eggs. Blend it. Drink up.


Best protein shake ever :afridi
 
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