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UJ said:I was just wondering how much protein you guys (that work out) consume in a day. I heard that a gram of protein per pound of weight is suitable for those working out, but to me that seems like too much of protein.
it depends what do youi wanna do ?UJ said:I was just wondering how much protein you guys (that work out) consume in a day. I heard that a gram of protein per pound of weight is suitable for those working out, but to me that seems like too much of protein.
from_da_lost_dim3nsion said:it depends what do youi wanna do ?
if you wanna get lean and cut up , the tak eless protien. more cardio and workout,
if u wanna ger big then 1 gm/lb of ur body weight !
Nauman said:Is it essential to take protien? ie. in the form of protien shakes and protien bars? its been a week since I have been working out at the gym but havent taken any protien yet, the instructor didnt tell me to take it either.
UJ said:Yeh I've already got a decent cut but I've been trying to put on weight so I can size up. Havent worked out proper for a few months, so getting back into it now.
Do you do 1 gram/pound?
high protein diets , like tun an stuff will help, but the naturally occouring high protien diests also have high amounts of fat in them as well!!UJ said:I worked out how much food I'd have to eat in order to get 1 gram/pound and its just way too much, even if I take protein once a day. So I think I'm going to stick to 80-100 grams if I can.
What type of foods and how many meals a day does everyone do in order to get the right mix of protein, carbs and fat?
Nauman said:Is it essential to take protien? ie. in the form of protien shakes and protien bars? its been a week since I have been working out at the gym but havent taken any protien yet, the instructor didnt tell me to take it either.
Smooth_Operator said:There is only so much your kidneys can take, protein supplements are pretty heavy on the kidneys.
Smooth_Operator said:Money making schemes me thinks...your better off sticking to eating chicken, fish, meat etc (grilled though). There is only so much your kidneys can take, protein supplements are pretty heavy on the kidneys.
UJ said:But wouldn't having a high protein diet by eating food instead of taking protein supplements still be bad for your kidneys since protein is still entering your body?
Protein shakes are there for convenience - eg you dont have to go cook and prepare chicken, you can just have a shake to get your protein in.
A few things I want to mention before I talk about shakes. First off, have you determined your body fat percentage, and subtracted that from your weight to determine your lean body mass? Broscience suggests that you need at least a gram of protein per pound of lean body mass, but research suggests otherwise. 0.6g per lb works just as well.
If 0.6g per lb works just as well, are you able to get that much from your food, and if not, why not? A decent serving of meat, say a couple of chicken breasts, should get you to that 0.6g/lb figure.
The more I read about shakes, the more I realize they are a scam. The dairy industry moved to skim milk in the 70s, and didn't have anything to do with the fat they had skimmed, so they inundated the market with cheese. And then they had excess whey, which they now foist on gullible weight lifters.
One last thing: the so-called "anabolic window," the hour or so post-workout where you "must" gulp down the whey shake is yet more broscience. The anabolic window actually lasts a good 48 hours post-workout. Eating and drinking immediately post-workout may actually lead to fat gain due to heightened cortisol.
Aight, appreciate your comment, my bodyfat is 9%, BMI 21. I've gained 25 lbs over the last year by working out, looking to gain more, get past 165 lbs. I've heard people make big gains by drinking protein shakes so I thought I might benefit by adding that to my game.
Anyhow, I'm assuming you're in the US. If so, and you really do need to supplement your dietary protein deficiency with a shake, I would suggest Optimum Nutrition. It is pricey, but it tastes far better than generics, and the company has a somewhat better reputation than the others in the totally unregulated supplement industry.
Thanks, I hear this stuff taste nastyIn that case, I would recommend Optimum Nutrition. I used to get it from GNC, but I hear you can get much better deals online, especially if you buy in bulk.
The new Muscle Milk tastes great too (the previous version was positively chalky), and although you may want to look at the ingredients, it does have the advantage of being available at the freezers in most convenience stores, so if you're out of powder or forgot your mixer bottle, it works in a pinch.
what's the price?
If I remember correctly, $30-ish for 2 lb. The bigger tub you buy, the more the savings.
Thanks, I hear this stuff taste nasty
Aight will buy that later today, I guess it's worth the gains.
Before you do, just make you do your research on the raging online debates over isolates vs concentrate, Hydrolyzed vs non-Hydrolyzed, BCAA content etc. It is enough to make your head spin.
That's too much to think about bruh. I'll buy it, will deal with the consequences later.
A few things I want to mention before I talk about shakes. First off, have you determined your body fat percentage, and subtracted that from your weight to determine your lean body mass? Broscience suggests that you need at least a gram of protein per pound of lean body mass, but research suggests otherwise. 0.6g per lb works just as well.
If 0.6g per lb works just as well, are you able to get that much from your food, and if not, why not? A decent serving of meat, say a couple of chicken breasts, should get you to that 0.6g/lb figure.
The more I read about shakes, the more I realize they are a scam. The dairy industry moved to skim milk in the 70s, and didn't have anything to do with the fat they had skimmed, so they inundated the market with cheese. And then they had excess whey, which they now foist on gullible weight lifters.
One last thing: the so-called "anabolic window," the hour or so post-workout where you "must" gulp down the whey shake is yet more broscience. The anabolic window actually lasts a good 48 hours post-workout. Eating and drinking immediately post-workout may actually lead to fat gain due to heightened cortisol.
So how is it a scam? It is merely a more convenient form of protein, and students and working professionals in particular appreciate the fact.
[MENTION=142256]Pakistanian[/MENTION] On topic, I used ON WGS back when it used to be affordable in India. It is still dirt cheap in the US, so I would highly recommend that. Btw, I am surprised that you gained 25 lbs of muscle with a regular diet, keeping your body-fat so low. Are you young?
A few things I want to mention before I talk about shakes. First off, have you determined your body fat percentage, and subtracted that from your weight to determine your lean body mass? Broscience suggests that you need at least a gram of protein per pound of lean body mass, but research suggests otherwise. 0.6g per lb works just as well.
If 0.6g per lb works just as well, are you able to get that much from your food, and if not, why not? A decent serving of meat, say a couple of chicken breasts, should get you to that 0.6g/lb figure.
The more I read about shakes, the more I realize they are a scam. The dairy industry moved to skim milk in the 70s, and didn't have anything to do with the fat they had skimmed, so they inundated the market with cheese. And then they had excess whey, which they now foist on gullible weight lifters.
One last thing: the so-called "anabolic window," the hour or so post-workout where you "must" gulp down the whey shake is yet more broscience. The anabolic window actually lasts a good 48 hours post-workout. Eating and drinking immediately post-workout may actually lead to fat gain due to heightened cortisol.
I dont believe in protein shakes. I dont know the technicalities but just the whispers that they aren't good for one's long term health are enough to scare me away.