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PSL is too exciting and should not be watched by people with weak hearts. This up and down can be too much. What do you guys think?
 
Today's game was thrilling.

It's the first time in the PSL that we're having a super over.
 
That was an absolute thriller, you cannot get a better game of cricket than that. all at barely over a run a ball, who says you can't have entertainment without 40m boundaries and a 200 par score?
 
It has taken some time for this years PSL to get into high gear, but so glad to see these thrillers.
 
It's not just these two close games recently but the standard of catching, fielding and bowling has been very high overall. Pakistan cricket or anything related to it, is always exciting.
 
One close game and our brainwashed deluded fans start chest thumping.

You are all due a reality check on April 7 - Mumbai Indians vs Chennai Super Kings. That is T20 cricket and is international standard and exciting and thrilling. Words cannot do justice to the pleasure from watching that league
 
The only other T20 league I watch is the Natwest Blast and to be honest the PSL is not bad at all in comparison, I'd say you'd find batsman in the blast who are more technically sound but I have enjoy both tournaments. The PCB need to do a bit more to get people in though and create an atmosphere, Sharjah is always decent even on a bad day
 
I literally had goosebumps. This was probably the best PSL match for me. Never gotten so excited by a cricket match. Feel bad for Lahore but good to see United win.
 
I feel bad for Rana saab.😢

Lahore need new leadership and new management team.

MCULLUM choke was the worse i have seen. Why would u take a single anyway u r the best hitter in the world, just finished the game.😤
 
I feel bad for Rana saab.��

Lahore need new leadership and new management team.

MCULLUM choke was the worse i have seen. Why would u take a single anyway u r the best hitter in the world, just finished the game.��

What on earth are you takling about? Who gave him support? One joker after the other tried to become hero by hitting in the air, all you needed was to rotate the strike, they were chasing 120, not 180. Never seen such rubbish batting, especially when your captain is batting with you.
 
The low scoring grounds (combined with the lack of batting talent) makes PSL matches the most exciting of any T20 league.
 
It appears that the chest-thumpers did not have the heart to bump this thread after the two nail-biters yesterday, with Multan and Peshawar chasing 100 with 9 and 10 wickets in hand respectively.

It also appears that some people do not have the capacity to distinguish between low quality cricket and exciting cricket. Can low quality cricket be exciting? Yes it can be, but it is still low quality.

Regardless of what the standard of cricket is and what level it is being played at, it is inevitable that there will be some close encounters and tight finishes, and such matches are always exciting.

Nonetheless, it does not change the fact that the PSL is a minnow league. The standard of cricket is rubbish, and the overall package is very poor.
 
There is very little correlation between standard of the league and encounters that go down the wire.

You can have good teams but one sided affairs and you can have poor teams but matches are close.

I think the quality of bowling has been pretty good in PSL but the batting seems to have fallen apart. The major issue is, these conditions suit Asian players more than anything. PSL could do with a few lankan players like Thisara, Kusal Mendis, Kusal Perera, Tharanga, these folks would bring a good deal of entertainment. Obviously Indian players are out of contention and from Bangladesh they could have gone with Soumya and Mushy, the rest are playing.
 
It appears that the chest-thumpers did not have the heart to bump this thread after the two nail-biters yesterday, with Multan and Peshawar chasing 100 with 9 and 10 wickets in hand respectively.

It also appears that some people do not have the capacity to distinguish between low quality cricket and exciting cricket. Can low quality cricket be exciting? Yes it can be, but it is still low quality.

Regardless of what the standard of cricket is and what level it is being played at, it is inevitable that there will be some close encounters and tight finishes, and such matches are always exciting.

Nonetheless, it does not change the fact that the PSL is a minnow league. The standard of cricket is rubbish, and the overall package is very poor.

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no one bothers to come and watch matches in UAE. And the tickets are damn cheap.

When IPL took place here, the stadiums had people.

Clearly, PSL hasn't been that good and has sucked.

DOn't understand why people dont admit this.
 
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no one bothers to come and watch matches in UAE. And the tickets are damn cheap.

When IPL took place here, the stadiums had people.

Clearly, PSL hasn't been that good and has sucked.

DOn't understand why people dont admit this.

I see only corporate box and VIP tickets online and they are 1000+ AED which isn't cheap for the average Joe. How much are the regular tickets for?
 
Didn’t post in the match thread yesterday as I don’t want to spoil anyone’s party :).

The guys there keep talking about the balance between bat and ball and the excitement. What none of them seem to realise is that the excitement is brought about by some very poor batting. That kinda excitement you can get by watching gully cricket too. Straightforward chases are made to look like some Herculean task. Batting collapses are so common that Michael Slater could accurately predict one yesterday. Agreed it’s not the perfect batting wicket. It looks easy when the ball is hard and new and probably gets tougher/slower as the ball gets older but good players are able to find the boundaries. It’s clearly not a wicket for slogging. But 120-140 is a small total on that wicket with such a short boundary. And we didn’t even see 120 in the two matches yesterday.

Not many batsmen were showing the patience to stay at the crease and time the ball for boundaries. After taking a few singles everybody is trying to hit sixes. So I see an approach issue along with the skill issue. The pool of foreign talent is not that good overall which is not helping either although a few star players like Watson, KP, Smith, Sangakkara etc are doing a good job.

One innings that really impressed me from the Pak side was the one by Agha Salman for Lahore. He looked so fluent. Talat and Faheem are good but this guy looked like a proper middle order batsman.

The issues with the batting and pitches in PSL can be fixed. But it’ll never be fixed if the administration and some of these fans shut their eyes and say everything is fine and it’s the best. Having an open mind is the first step towards improvement. And in my humble opinion, there is plenty of room for improvement.
 
I guess it's tough for some people to realize that scoring runs in the UAE is not a piece of cake. The top foreign batsmen have found it harder to get going. A good example is Tamim Iqbal and McCullum who both have failed after being 'set' on one or more occasions. These are two players who have done better than the rest in whatever leagues they've played. You really cannot play through the line in Dubai or Sharjah since the ball tends to grip a little. It might not be the best recipe for entertaining cricket but it is what it is. PSL is still exciting and that's what matters in the end.
 
In terms of quality, only the Big Bash League is quality where both the batsmen and the bowlers are somewhat on an equal footing.

With PSL, the problem is that the batting is almost non-existent while the bowling is better.

With IPL, the quality goes down because IPL matches are a competition between the batting orders of the two teams. The bowling is non-existent. But people will find IPL to be more high quality and more exciting because fours and sixes excite them to no end.
 
In terms of quality, only the Big Bash League is quality where both the batsmen and the bowlers are somewhat on an equal footing.

With PSL, the problem is that the batting is almost non-existent while the bowling is better.

With IPL, the quality goes down because IPL matches are a competition between the batting orders of the two teams. The bowling is non-existent. But people will find IPL to be more high quality and more exciting because fours and sixes excite them to no end.

That's what matters in T20 leagues. It's the entertainment that matters. There are Tests and ODI's for fans to enjoy the balance between bat and ball. Even T20 Internationals are about run scoring feasts. We're speaking of T20 leagues here.
 
That's what matters in T20 leagues. It's the entertainment that matters. There are Tests and ODI's for fans to enjoy the balance between bat and ball. Even T20 Internationals are about run scoring feasts. We're speaking of T20 leagues here.

Let them find solace in those excuses.
 
That's what matters in T20 leagues. It's the entertainment that matters. There are Tests and ODI's for fans to enjoy the balance between bat and ball. Even T20 Internationals are about run scoring feasts. We're speaking of T20 leagues here.

Yes but I'm talking about quality not excitement. And fans seem to interchange those words when they shouldn't. IPL is exciting but inferior on quality. And to each his own. Some people find excitement in having 40 fours and 30 sixes in a T20 match whereas I find excitement in a bowler taking 5 wickets in a spell ala Waqar Younis style. Shoaib Akhtar has given me more moments of excitement than let's say Warner or Jayasuriya.
 
And don't get me wrong, PSL's quality is even worse. No batting skills from the locals whatsoever bar one or two.
 
PSL's quality is awful because of the pitches. International players like Duminy, who was smashing around Indian spinners just a week back, is struggling to time the ball here. Dubai and Sharjah's par scores are a reflection of the fact that these are some of the worst grounds in world cricket for T20s.

Ofcourse Pakistan batsmen are mediocre to say the least but I think there is enough quality in the line-ups to cross the 160+ mark consistently on good quality pitches.
 
Yes but I'm talking about quality not excitement. And fans seem to interchange those words when they shouldn't. IPL is exciting but inferior on quality. And to each his own. Some people find excitement in having 40 fours and 30 sixes in a T20 match whereas I find excitement in a bowler taking 5 wickets in a spell ala Waqar Younis style. Shoaib Akhtar has given me more moments of excitement than let's say Warner or Jayasuriya.

Inferior in quality to which league?
 
The quality of batting has been very poor. There is no getting away from that. Also young talent hasn't been promoted enough by the franchises . The pitches are very very poor . This year PSL hasn't been as good as the previous 2 editions.
 
Does that even matter???

Millions of People around the world enjoying the cricket in front of their screens.

The problem isn't in the UAE, The problem is we cannot host matches freely at home THUS This.


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no one bothers to come and watch matches in UAE. And the tickets are damn cheap.

When IPL took place here, the stadiums had people.

Clearly, PSL hasn't been that good and has sucked.

DOn't understand why people dont admit this.
 
Does that even matter???

Millions of People around the world enjoying the cricket in front of their screens.

The problem isn't in the UAE, The problem is we cannot host matches freely at home THUS This.

crowd does matter. it shows and influences the marketing
 
unfortunately we do not have the luxury unless we are able to host the matches within Pakistan.

not hosting in pakistan is just a lame excuse.

Look at IPL. IPL wasn't being played in India and yet they had good crowds.

PSL needs to market itself right
 
PSL cannot be held simultaneously.

The whole party has to move around.

This itself becomes a problem.

No one will bother to go to a game knowing that its gonna take place all 10 days.

They need to divide the games properly between Abu DHabi,Dubai and Sharjah.
 
India is 28% of the UAE population while Pakistan is 13%, this is one reason.

secondly the type of population from Pakistan is mostly labor thus it is hard for them to show up in all the matches.

I can count the lack of marketing as 3rd reason as well.

4th reason you also mentioned due to shortage of venue but this applies to IPL as well...no??
 
If I don't like a tv show I don't watch it... I don't go out of my way to bad mouth it. Same rules apply here, the India lovers who for some reason have a beef with PSL can just flip the channel and let the rest of us enjoy this low quality poor and embarrassment of a tournament because guess what we find it entertaining.
 
If I don't like a tv show I don't watch it... I don't go out of my way to bad mouth it. Same rules apply here, the India lovers who for some reason have a beef with PSL can just flip the channel and let the rest of us enjoy this low quality poor and embarrassment of a tournament because guess what we find it entertaining.
Same for all the Pakistani posters who cries over ipl all the time.

Let us have the bollywood style, cheerleader filled rubbish quality ipl.
 
Same for all the Pakistani posters who cries over ipl all the time.

Let us have the bollywood style, cheerleader filled rubbish quality ipl.

I haven't even seen an IPL match in 9 years.... I wouldn't even know if they still have cheerleaders or not. I don't care if IPL is the pinnacle of the sport, I don't find it entertaining enough to tune in. The same is not the case with me for PSL. This simple logic is amiss for certain folks.
 
Same for all the Pakistani posters who cries over ipl all the time.

Let us have the bollywood style, cheerleader filled rubbish quality ipl.
Most Pakistanis don't care about the IPL to give an opinion. Indian fans sure do have a lot more to say about the PSL than the Pakistanis do about the IPL.
 
Most Pakistanis don't care about the IPL to give an opinion. Indian fans sure do have a lot more to say about the PSL than the Pakistanis do about the IPL.

True... even the worst tv show or movie have some people that find it entertaining.... The fact that millions are tuning in Pakistan shows that the opinion of those that think this is "poor and embarrassing" isn't going very far.


Heck the night games in Sharjah have been packed houses, so much for empty stadium league.
 
Most Pakistanis don't care about the IPL to give an opinion. Indian fans sure do have a lot more to say about the PSL than the Pakistanis do about the IPL.

I disagree seeing how ipl is perceived by pak ppers here. May be you don't care but most does and the hatred is vicious.
 
On one end we have certain jahils calling it a poor and embarrassing league and on the other end we have "foreigners" taking ownership of it as if it is their own.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">PSL final sees international guests coming to Pakistan but its a little unfortunate that they will really only get to see the ground & the hotel.When you think about it, it would be like only experiencing 1% of Pakistan & Pakistani Hospitality, which is one of our best qualities!</p>— Shaniera Akram (@iamShaniera) <a href="https://twitter.com/iamShaniera/status/970226003602788352?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Its been underwhelming and disappointing to see such woeful batting collapses time and again. Yes the foreigners are struggling too on these slow, gripping pitches but I fear for the future of Pakistani batsmanship if this PSL is indicative of anything.

The pitches and batting standards weren't world-class either in the last two editions, but the fact there's not a single score of 180+ so far shows the quality of this competition is regressing. The talent rosters must be shaken up next year.
 
The talent rosters must be shaken up next year.

Not happening. We will see the same TTFs and "emerging" players recycled with a couple of actual potentially good players for the future chosen but not played (and if played it would be in the wrong position, role etc).
 
Hilarious that some Pak posters comment on Indian topic by statement like

" I haven't watched watched IPL matches till now , but what happened in the 4th ball of 16th over of the 48th match between RR and MI is utter rubbish. Whole IPL is fixed"

" I don't watch Indian movies , but man their actors are really bad"
 
If I don't like a tv show I don't watch it... I don't go out of my way to bad mouth it. Same rules apply here, the India lovers who for some reason have a beef with PSL can just flip the channel and let the rest of us enjoy this low quality poor and embarrassment of a tournament because guess what we find it entertaining.
That’s like saying “we’re happy with low quality stuff but nobody else should say it’s low quality” lol. Nobody is bad mouthing the PSL here but people will state their opinions. That’s what this forum and its members exist for. Criticism and insult are two different things man.

If making fun of PSL is the intention there are several other things that are much more comical than the batting. The dandruff free move, the HBL comedy box, the dholak cheer boys, the cool&cool sponsors etc etc. People talk about batting because it directly affects the quality of the league.


T20 is a batsman’s format. You’re given 10 wickets to bat 20 overs. Irrespective of the condition of the wicket, there will be high scoring matches because the batsmen will go after the bowling. Teams are struggling to score 120 in the PSL. That’s just one run per ball. If you have to raise the “balance between batting and bowling” argument to defend a T20 league you surely have some problems in your batting to address.

Some of these players and coaching staff don’t seem to take the league very seriously. They are not worried about getting kicked out if they don’t perform. In contrast, in a league like the IPL, the pressure is immense. The difference can be seen on their faces.
 
Some of these players and coaching staff don’t seem to take the league very seriously. They are not worried about getting kicked out if they don’t perform. In contrast, in a league like the IPL, the pressure is immense. The difference can be seen on their faces.

Our batsmen won't even get to 120 if there was actual pressure.
 
Our batsmen won't even get to 120 if there was actual pressure.

I don’t know about that man but they definitely shouldn’t take it casually. A lot of money has been pumped into this and whatever facilities they need are made available. It should reflect in the quality of cricket played as well.
 
A couple of good matches, whilst the rest have been one-sided and dull games.

I don't get why people are getting so hyped-up - it's been a pretty ordinary tournament so far.
 
The pitches are the key to good T20 cricket and they are too spicy for these guys. Too many batsman are too long in the tooth and the young players are by and large pretty mediocre. Agha Salman looks to have something and anywhere else his performance would be ok but on here we got excited because the standard is so poor of the rest of the young batsman.
 
I don't mind low-scoring matches as it gets boring seeing 6 after 6, but to say this tournament has been brilliant so far is laughable. The standard of cricket has been mediocre.
 
I don't mind low-scoring matches as it gets boring seeing 6 after 6, but to say this tournament has been brilliant so far is laughable. The standard of cricket has been mediocre.

True. One on one rivalry, team rilvalries, Good chase, Good defense lot of factors are missing.
 
Today is the first time I am watching a PSL match and the quality is pretty poor.. IMO PSL is a very distant third behind BBL and IPL.. I haven’t watched any other leagues so can’t comment.. It’s still a new league so maybe in future it will improve but the batting standards have been pretty poor which made mediocre bowling look decent.. The quality of both batting and bowling is below average and borderline poor.
 
Bench strength is questionable. Not able to get top international players participate. 8 an over should be the norm in a T20. In this PSL they have done that only twice out of 26 innings.
 
Today is the first time I am watching a PSL match and the quality is pretty poor.. IMO PSL is a very distant third behind BBL and IPL.. I haven’t watched any other leagues so can’t comment.. It’s still a new league so maybe in future it will improve but the batting standards have been pretty poor which made mediocre bowling look decent.. The quality of both batting and bowling is below average and borderline poor.
The standard of bowling and fielding should be right up there with the very best in the world. While the pitches have played a massive role in the low scores, pretty much every team has a balanced bowling attack. IPL or BBL's best teams will struggle to cross 150 in a T20 on these pitches against some of the bowling line-ups in this PSL. BBL's best team might even get rolled over below 100 a few times lol.
 
There have been too many one-sided matches which is puzzling, the last 3 matches being an example.

Need some close finishes with some high-quality cricket.
 
The standard of bowling and fielding should be right up there with the very best in the world. While the pitches have played a massive role in the low scores, pretty much every team has a balanced bowling attack. IPL or BBL's best teams will struggle to cross 150 in a T20 on these pitches against some of the bowling line-ups in this PSL. BBL's best team might even get rolled over below 100 a few times lol.


Well yesterday’s match had poor bowling but even worse batting by Karachi.. Any IPL or PSL team
Would have easily scored 200 against the mediocre bowling.. Second innings Luke Ronchi killed the pathetic bowling so it was fun.. So based on yesterday’s match the quality of bowling was poor but quality of batting was even worse in the first innings.
 
Well yesterday’s match had poor bowling but even worse batting by Karachi.. Any IPL or PSL team
Would have easily scored 200 against the mediocre bowling.. Second innings Luke Ronchi killed the pathetic bowling so it was fun.. So based on yesterday’s match the quality of bowling was poor but quality of batting was even worse in the first innings.
Yesterday was the only match a team scored at more than 10 RPO for the entire duration of the powerplay. Based on the whole tournament I can confidently say the best team from IPL will struggle to cross 150 while a BBL side will get blown to bits seeing as how mediocre Aussie batsmen are against spin of any kind.
 
Yesterday was the only match a team scored at more than 10 RPO for the entire duration of the powerplay. Based on the whole tournament I can confidently say the best team from IPL will struggle to cross 150 while a BBL side will get blown to bits seeing as how mediocre Aussie batsmen are against spin of any kind.


That is exactly what I am saying the standard of bowling was poor and still the team made 48 runs in first 10 overs.. Shows how poor batting was..

Not to take anything away from Luke Ronchi innings but the bowling was poor bowling at leg and short stuff any good batsmen/hitter would murder the bowling and Ronchi did the same.. There are better hitters in IPL/BBL than Ronchi..

Anyways it was just one match I have watched maybe the bowlers and batsmen were having an off day I’ll watch few more matches before giving judgement.
 
That is exactly what I am saying the standard of bowling was poor and still the team made 48 runs in first 10 overs.. Shows how poor batting was..

Not to take anything away from Luke Ronchi innings but the bowling was poor bowling at leg and short stuff any good batsmen/hitter would murder the bowling and Ronchi did the same.. There are better hitters in IPL/BBL than Ronchi..

Anyways it was just one match I have watched maybe the bowlers and batsmen were having an off day I’ll watch few more matches before giving judgement.
Exactly my point. Think the bowling and fielding have been spot on. Some rubbish is present obviously, like KK's legside filth to Ronchi yesterday. One of the worst displays of pace bowling I have ever seen tbh.
 
Today is the first time I am watching a PSL match and the quality is pretty poor.. IMO PSL is a very distant third behind BBL and IPL.. I haven’t watched any other leagues so can’t comment.. It’s still a new league so maybe in future it will improve but the batting standards have been pretty poor which made mediocre bowling look decent.. The quality of both batting and bowling is below average and borderline poor.

T20 leagues don't get better. They are just there to be a money grab and a billboard in action. Actual cricketing quality? Nah.
 
how the stander of bowling is poor in psl? in other leage team team get easily 200 212 220. in bbl i saw fast bowler get phainty and they strugle against spin bowling like rashid shadab yasir.....
strange poster and with out logic here
some of poster mention last three matches
that is not poor bowling at all
in first ing in all three match there is dificulty a little bit but in second there is no thing for bowler and that is sharga you look at record of other internationl odi match
again teams in dubi we will find batt and bowling competion
 
In terms of quality, only the Big Bash League is quality where both the batsmen and the bowlers are somewhat on an equal footing.

With PSL, the problem is that the batting is almost non-existent while the bowling is better.

With IPL, the quality goes down because IPL matches are a competition between the batting orders of the two teams. The bowling is non-existent. But people will find IPL to be more high quality and more exciting because fours and sixes excite them to no end.

may be bpl is good. but what about spin bowling they struggle .just look how they face rashid and...
difrence getting socre against spin and fast bowling you say competion . how u explain that?
 
They should prepare more batting friendly tracks with decent predictable bounce. The batsmen will come into their own then! Also limit spinners to 6 overs every match. Plus they should also remove the ICC bat regulations and let them use some really chunky willow.

Once the batting clicks everything else will fall into place, The batting has been boring to watch, even quick twos seem worthy of celebrating!
 
Its been terrific ever since I started watching (missed the Dubai matches). The matches have been largely low scoring but that is mainly due to exceptional bowling, some of the best fielding I have ever seen, backed up by great catches...and slightly low, sticky type wickets.

I take exciting games over slog fests any day.
 
bat finally has to work hard to compete against ball unlike other venues where bat can just show up and will still win against ball easily;
 
Although PSL has helped Pakistan cricket - evident with the breakthrough of players such as Sharjeel, Hasan Ali, Shadab, Fakhar and etc but the quality of cricket and pitches has been appalling.

The reason for the low scoring contests isn't due to the "quality of bowlers" but to do with the rubbish sluggish pitches you find in UAE and the lack of abundance in batting talent.
 
Rubbish batting, mediocre bowling and awful pitches is not balance between bat and ball.

It is pathetic cricket and that is what the PSL is.

High quality batting and bowling on good, neutral pitches is what you call balance between bat and ball.

Our fans have a hard time accepting the reality. If the PSL was a product of another county, it would have been a laughing stock on PP.
 
Biggest issue is the lack of Pakistani batting talent so far. This has meant that the bowlers have largely dominated and the best of the batting performances have come from foreign players.

Sad to say this but some of the Pakistani batsmen who went into the PSL with big reputations have been very ordinary.
 
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Biggest issue is the lack of Pakistani batting talent so far. This has meant that the bowlers have largely dominated and the best of the batting performances have come from foreign players.

Sad to say this but some of the Pakistani batsmen who went into the PSL with big reputations have been very ordinary.

The tracks have been slow and not easy to score on, adding to this the bowling has been very good. Even Wahab is bowling brilliantly again. You could enter an IPL team, they too would struggle scoring big against bowlers in form and slow pitches.
 
The tracks have been slow and not easy to score on, adding to this the bowling has been very good. Even Wahab is bowling brilliantly again. You could enter an IPL team, they too would struggle scoring big against bowlers in form and slow pitches.

Tracks not great but the batting has been even worse. The tempo, the lack of skills have been very poor.

The likes of Ronchi and Dwayne Smith and Sanga have shown the way.
 
Tracks not great but the batting has been even worse. The tempo, the lack of skills have been very poor.

The likes of Ronchi and Dwayne Smith and Sanga have shown the way.

All three of them are average or a bit above average T20 players.. There goes "bowling has been excellent so batsman have failed to do well" argument. If such average players are topping the list than the bowling is certainly not world class although some team like Karachi are a good bowling unit. It is just that the batting as been even bad. Absence of skill is very much visible
 
All three of them are average or a bit above average T20 players.. There goes "bowling has been excellent so batsman have failed to do well" argument. If such average players are topping the list than the bowling is certainly not world class although some team like Karachi are a good bowling unit. It is just that the batting as been even bad. Absence of skill is very much visible

I was referring to the best innings so far - Ronchi, Smith and referring to Sanga's consistency.
 
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