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when that government has committed fraud and then refuses to investigate that fraud. Then it becomes a right. By the way you seem to be very young and not very well versed in history. Margaret thatchers govt in the 80's was elected with a majority yet when they tried to bring in the poll tax she faced mass demonstrations and was eventually forced to resign by her own party. The civil rights movement in the United states is another example of civil unrest against an unjust govt in a democracy. The movement by Gandhi and quaid-e-azam is now legendary. The govt may not have got a majority but we don't know that's the whole point. If they are so confident in their mandate why don't they put it to the test and at least investigate? Why?.
No its not the only country where democracy has been interrupted. I suggest you do you research. So what do you suggest. Just "let the system work on its own without correction?" what a stupid idea. If something is broken you try to fix it. You don't let it carry on. That's like driving with a punctured tyre or refusing to see a doctor if you broke your arm. Democracies go through upheavals but try to improve and fix their issues. Except in Pakistan where you create a corrupt system and then use it to keep you in power so you can make money.
You don't get it do you. If you don't stop rigging or at least try and repair any problems the elections mean nothing. The PTI are simply asking for a review, and investigation and if there has been rigging then the culprits to be arrested so that nobody ever does it again. Its been nearly 2 years waiting for this mythical promise from Nawaz. It has no arisen. Hence protesting is the only option left.
Top priority should be bringing peace, feeding the hungry, taking care of the homeless, improving educational and medical facilities. NS and Asif Zardari are obsessed with "development projects" as it allows them to make million's. The whole country is yelling "Go Nawaz Go" but he still remains in denial, his hearts and ears are closed to the facts on ground.
and after the corrutpion and commission loot maar they are still not done than they are selling the material from their own companies like itefaaq ka serya in all projects to make it more!
He will not resign. Either the people or military will drag him out then do whatever they want with him. He is to stupid and stubborn to understand the mood of the nation.
Hypocrisy at its best!
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and now they call Imran a Taliban Khan lol you cant erase history Mian sahiban remember your meetings with Osama and the funds he gave you to end Benazir govt? and here is chota mian said about Taliban in Zardari govt such hypocrites
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What is his own mission by the way?
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It was different situation and today is different situation. Pakistan's economy was at its worse during Zardari's ruling.
Today, Pakistan's economy is shaping now but Anarchist and its followers are trying to damage Pakistan's economy on purpose.
Not remotely same. Afghan Taliban, former Afghan Mujahideen, was supported by ISI and CIA against Russia in the past, former USSR.
Afghan Taliban is fighting against USA while TTP, newly created group, is killing civilian people both in Pakistan and Afghanistan, killed more than 50 civilians and counting.
Both PTI and PMLN gave peace negotiation a shot with TTP, but recent attack on Karachi Airport by TTP as testified by itself earlier change PMLN's mind, and PMLN authorized Zarb-e-Azb to clean the terrorism once and for all.
PTI is rigid concerning the peace with TTP.
Apple=Orange. Not remotely same.
lol Strike Rate you nuked the OP with cruize posts![]()
Hypocrisy at its best!
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and now they call Imran a Taliban Khan lol you cant erase history Mian sahiban remember your meetings with Osama and the funds he gave you to end Benazir govt? and here is chota mian said about Taliban in Zardari govt such hypocrites
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What is his own mission by the way?
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lol anarchist are the one who started this dirty game of politics in Pakistan back in late 80s with uncle Zia and the whole 90s and than they again started it after coming back to Pakistan in 2008. These lairs told the nation and their own workers for 8 years that we had no deal with Musharraf and than Saudi minister had to expose them when he came in media with that paper. Proven liar once again lied in Parliament and their is a big list if i start.....
And changed PMLNS mind lol what? say again please? the Army didn't even ask them for permission and launched the operation and after 2 days they told them we already started so PMLN and all parties had to shut the mouth and accept it. And by the way i was against both PTI and PMLN policy of having talks with TTP
Apple Orange? but which mission zia or bibi or mission impossible?
Buddy just read his answers here in favor of PMLN and than his posts in other threads against PTI compare them and laugh!!!
Buddy just read his answers here in favor of PMLN and than his posts in other threads against PTI compare them and laugh!!!
I just read his name at the start of posts and laugh off, I don't feel the need to waste my time on his posts and this is not about PTI. I don't take him serious ever since he was making posts on this forum about religion pretending to be a pious preacher. So I would suggest either to ignore him or take/respond to his posts for fun.
the worst thing about Nawaz is his ego and that is the reason democracy will derail again
What democracy?? Everyone knows the whole election was rigged.
That shows your lack of knowledge on history.
Afghan Taliban, Afghan Mujahideen, was formed to resist USSR with the help of ISI/CIA. General Zia-ul-Haq played vital role behind that movement. During that time, Afghanistan had no defense line, therefore, General Zia-ul-Haq did what he could to make do with the CIA-funded group, trained by ISI. After USSR's fall, several nations were granted freedom used to be part of USSR. That was crucial part in the history of the world.
And you are comparing that to the current scenario where Anarchist and its followers taking cities as hostage, issuing civil disobedience, forcing shopkeepers to shut down their shops, damaging Pakistan's economy, and now locking down the cities.
During the lockdown, the damages were occured including the human lives as well and counting.
What democracy?? Everyone knows the whole election was rigged.
My dear go again and read my post i was talking about internal dirty politics of Pakistan that Nawaz and his party started back in late 80s and keep playing in whole 90s i hope you are aware of the fact that he took money from ISI to end Benazir govt and it's proven in supreme court and than he also took money from Osama and had meetings with him which is mentioned at a few places too and now for your information i am old enough maybe much more than your expectation i know whole history of afghan jihad from creating Mujaideen and training them the involvement of Arabs, USA and the work of our Army and General Akhtar Abdur Rehman (Father of Hamayun Akhtar Khan). For your information General Akhtar Abdur Rehman role was bigger than Zia in that war.
i mean the so called fake democracy or as babar awan says demo-crazy
And nothing to do with resisting USSR for helping Afghanistan knowing Pakistan could be next?
I take my words back. Imranistan don't have to pretend to be stupid. They are born stupid.![]()
Says the Anarchist and its followers promoting Anarchism over democracy?![]()
Fallen King - seems like you and your family got lot on the line if Nawaz is put into jail along with his other criminal friends...i pity you and your thinking
Allah will one day ask you for supporting a proven chor and abuser of people's rights..
What can i say? Love for Imran Khan knows no bound.![]()
so where did i said it was a bad policy to resist? Pak Army and establishment did the right thing at that time to stop Soviet Union there otherwise they were going to come here one day for their dream of getting access to warm water. Now come back to my main point of who started this dirty internal politics in Pakistan back in late 80s and who was playing it in whole 90s. You are derailing the topic just to get away from the history of Nooras
Everyone who is against govt becomes Imranistan? man you are a genius i will not call you stupid!
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Today people love Imran Khan, but this is not bound to stay forever. Remember, the anarchism can backfire big time. Eventually, the anarchist will face its own anarchism eventually.
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pakistani awam like this deserves noora and company - jaisi awam waisay hukmaran...
This happened back in 2007 when IK was in Punjab university Islami Jamiat Tulaba (A student organization of Jamat Islami) misbehaved with IK. Qazi Hussain was head of Jamaat at that time and he was so angry on Jamiat student he personally met Imran and apologized to him. Qazi sahab had really good relations with IK.
Enjoy the Plan ABCD.....XYZ while Peshawar bleeds.
Where is Mr. honorable Chief Minister?
He rarely visits peshawar nowadays, mostly spend time either on container or in bani gala.
Imran Khan announced recently while addressing Bahawalpur rally that he will lead ‘Islamabad Tsunami March’ comprising over 10 lakh participants on August 14 if PTI’s demands are not fulfilled. The five demands to the PML-N govt. are:
1. Who was behind Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s victory speech at 11:20pm on May 11, 2013 election night.
2. Why was former chief justice Iftikhar Chaudhry rewarded? Why Returning Officers weren’t working under election commission? What was the role of ex Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry?
3. What was the role of caretaker government?
4. Who changed results after getting votes rejected in 35 polling stations.
5. Election commission must resign
These demands seem quite vague and rhetorical. How can the govt. explain the role of the care taker govt. when it was made through consensus of all big parties. Basically, these demands can never be met by the sitting govt. unless they confess to rigging and announce fresh elections. So the Tsunami March is happening, unless some grave security concern arises and shuts down everything.
Some questions for the insafians.
What will be the objectives of the March. Paralyze Islamabad? Create so much chaos and upheaval that army is forced to step in and take over. How can a revolution come without the intervention of our Army, who right now have their hands full with operation in NW. So what is IK's grand plan? Neutral setup to come in and announcement of fresh elections while we are at war. What if "neutral set up" is made up of technocrats who are only answerable to the army and they decide that no elections can be held till operation Zarb-e-Azb is over, which can be years. IK can't be that naive to not know all that. Why is he still going along with his plan. Why does he want to topple the govt. when we need stability the most. Why is the champion of democracy paving the way for a military take over. I understand that this is not ideal democracy. Elections were rigged but still PML-N was leading in the polls so all rigging did was increased the margin of victory. I understand IK wants to put pressure on govt. so they don't repeat this next time around, but in doing that, do they want the whole system to be wrapped up and we go back to care taker/military rule letting the democracy process to go back to zero. And then what, same party and leaders will come crying after 5-10 years that they were not allowed to finish their term and govern. Why are insafians in their zeal to get rid of Nawaz not realizing what they are going to put the country through.
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