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Air Force chief ** Dhanoa on Monday said India could have achieved better results in the Balakot airstrike if the country had Rafale jets, reported PTI.

“In the Balakot operation, we had technology on our side, and we could launch precision stand of weapons with great accuracy,” the IAF chief said while addressing a seminar on aerospace power of the future and impact of technology in Delhi. “In subsequent engagements, we came out better because we upgraded our MiG-21 Bisons, and Mirage-2000 aircraft. The results would have been further skewed in our favour had we inducted the Rafale aircraft in time.”

Dhanoa said the Balakot operation on a “non-military target with precision at night, deep inside Pakistan demonstrates our ability to hit the perpetrators of violence in our country, wherever they may be”. The Air Force claimed to have struck a Jaish-e-Mohammad training camp in Pakistan’s Balakot area on February 26. The IAF had retaliated to a terrorist attack in Jammu and Kashmir’s Pulwama on February 14, which killed 40 Central Reserve Police Force personnel.

Dhanoa said the Rafale jets will be a game-changer. “In the proposed induction of the Rafale and S-400 surface-to-air missile system, in the next two [to] four years, once again the technological balance will shift in our favour, like it was in 2002 during Operation Parakaram during the last stand-off,” he added.

The Rafale jet deal is one of the main campaign topics for the Opposition. The Congress and other Opposition parties have consistently alleged corruption in the Rafale deal signed by Narendra Modi’s government. Congress chief Rahul Gandhi has brought up the matter multiple times, including in recent rallies ahead of the upcoming elections. He has called the deal a “blatant case of corruption”.

The Congress has accused the government of overpaying for the fighter aircraft and claims that the deal has benefited Anil Ambani, whose company Reliance Defence was chosen to fulfil the offset obligations in the deal.

A report by the Comptroller and Auditor General on the Rafale deal was tabled in Parliament in February. The report said the deal signed in 2016 by the Narendra Modi government to buy 36 fighter jets from France was 2.86% cheaper than the offer made to the previous government in 2007. The Congress had dismissed the report, calling it an “eyewash”.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">• 26 Feb PAF denied IAF strikes across LOC<br>• 27 Feb<br>~ 6 Strikes by PAF across LOC from within Pak Airspace <br>~ PAF shot down 2 IAF Jets wreckage seen by all<br>~ IAF pilot arrested <br>~ IAF shot down own Mi17<br>❓Technology on India's side<br>✔️Allah on Pak’s side<br> <a href="https://t.co/94sIK0O943">https://t.co/94sIK0O943</a></p>— Asif Ghafoor (@peaceforchange) <a href="https://twitter.com/peaceforchange/status/1117861902904954881?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 15, 2019</a></blockquote>
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India's airchief is called B.S. Coriander hahah.... No wonder they had such a resounding defeat :yk :maqsood
 
tum hoti toe aesa hota, tum huti toe wesa hota...This song of Kabhi Kabhi Bolly movie is a match to Rafael and the IAF - Inept air force.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">• 26 Feb PAF denied IAF strikes across LOC<br>• 27 Feb<br>~ 6 Strikes by PAF across LOC from within Pak Airspace <br>~ PAF shot down 2 IAF Jets wreckage seen by all<br>~ IAF pilot arrested <br>~ IAF shot down own Mi17<br>❓Technology on India's side<br>✔️Allah on Pak’s side<br> <a href="https://t.co/94sIK0O943">https://t.co/94sIK0O943</a></p>— Asif Ghafoor (@peaceforchange) <a href="https://twitter.com/peaceforchange/status/1117861902904954881?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 15, 2019</a></blockquote>
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This tweet is embarrasing. But what more can you expect from a man that congratulates Usman Khawaja every time he scores against India?
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">• 26 Feb PAF denied IAF strikes across LOC<br>• 27 Feb<br>~ 6 Strikes by PAF across LOC from within Pak Airspace <br>~ PAF shot down 2 IAF Jets wreckage seen by all<br>~ IAF pilot arrested <br>~ IAF shot down own Mi17<br>❓Technology on India's side<br>✔️Allah on Pak’s side<br> <a href="https://t.co/94sIK0O943">https://t.co/94sIK0O943</a></p>— Asif Ghafoor (@peaceforchange) <a href="https://twitter.com/peaceforchange/status/1117861902904954881?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 15, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Oh Baghdad Bob wannabe please stop this is getting even more embarassing for Pakistan. Should really stop dragging Allah's name now in with blatant lies. Have some shame...
 
A few looking the wrong way for embarrassment - if you want a den of lies, look no further than India
 
Oh Baghdad Bob wannabe please stop this is getting even more embarassing for Pakistan. Should really stop dragging Allah's name now in with blatant lies. Have some shame...

Yeah embarrassing for Pak :)))



We weren't the ones claiming to be a supa powa and then have six sites bombed, two planes shot down and pilot paraded as mule.


Good coping mechanism you have developed.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">• 26 Feb PAF denied IAF strikes across LOC<br>• 27 Feb<br>~ 6 Strikes by PAF across LOC from within Pak Airspace <br>~ PAF shot down 2 IAF Jets wreckage seen by all<br>~ IAF pilot arrested <br>~ IAF shot down own Mi17<br>❓Technology on India's side<br>✔️Allah on Pak’s side<br> <a href="https://t.co/94sIK0O943">https://t.co/94sIK0O943</a></p>— Asif Ghafoor (@peaceforchange) <a href="https://twitter.com/peaceforchange/status/1117861902904954881?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 15, 2019</a></blockquote>
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I don't remember any footage of the second jet downed :13:
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">• 26 Feb PAF denied IAF strikes across LOC<br>• 27 Feb<br>~ 6 Strikes by PAF across LOC from within Pak Airspace <br>~ PAF shot down 2 IAF Jets wreckage seen by all<br>~ IAF pilot arrested <br>~ IAF shot down own Mi17<br>❓Technology on India's side<br>✔️Allah on Pak’s side<br> <a href="https://t.co/94sIK0O943">https://t.co/94sIK0O943</a></p>— Asif Ghafoor (@peaceforchange) <a href="https://twitter.com/peaceforchange/status/1117861902904954881?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 15, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Umm where is the photos for the second plane which was allegedly shot down by PAK ? Oh wait,, they don't have any proof :angel:
 
Umm where is the photos for the second plane which was allegedly shot down by PAK ? Oh wait,, they don't have any proof :angel:

I guess we will have to wait for them to photoshop some radar screenshots and call it "irrefutable evidence" :ua
 
A stupid thing to say by IAF chief, having Rafale or not shouldnt matter, India is way advanced of Pak, they should have won anyway instead it ended up in a stalemate..
 
A stupid thing to say by IAF chief, having Rafale or not shouldnt matter, India is way advanced of Pak, they should have won anyway instead it ended up in a stalemate..

How is it stalemate? Can you explain.


Ok leave aside the second jet. This is what transpired:

2/26
-India enters Pak airspace in middle of night and fails to hit its intended target, hits some trees and runs away

2/27
-Pak enters Indian airspace in broad daylight, hits six intended open grounds, all planes return to base
-Baits hero Abhinandan to chase returning jets and shoots him down as soon as he enters airspace
-Abhinandan paraded as a mule
-India shoots down its own search and rescue helicopter




Yeah stalemate :quote:
 
How is it stalemate? Can you explain.


Ok leave aside the second jet. This is what transpired:

2/26
-India enters Pak airspace in middle of night and fails to hit its intended target, hits some trees and runs away

At first I was off the impression that only trees were taken down, however Pakistan did not allow access to media or anyone else to the sight for 4 weeks, that has raised eyebrows. I am now more inclined to believe the SPICE bomb definitely may have done some damage, a few jihadis would now probably be in heaven with their 72 virgins.. However not 300 odd like the Indians are claiming lol :))


2/27
-Pak enters Indian airspace in broad daylight, hits six intended open grounds, all planes return to base

Maybe, Maybe not... All I can see of damage done is an AMRAAM left over...However I am willing to accept, what you have said above is a possibility.


-Baits hero Abhinandan to chase returning jets and shoots him down as soon as he enters airspace

Agreed, it mustve taken some skill to shoot down a 60 year old MIG 21 Bison(CONGRATS) ...

-Abhinandan paraded as a mule

Agreed.

-India shoots down its own search and rescue helicopter

Brutal truth but have to accept this..


Yeah stalemate :quote:

Stalemate mate for me, I am more inclined to believe the Balakot strike had some success and Pak took out our 60 year grandfather jet...


Bold..
 
Indians are crying still. Lol kids saying it ended in stalemate. We have never cried about having different jets. First the modi now this. india was given a smashing which they can't digest.
 
Results of Balakot would be different if India had attacked with chariots. We might have witnessed new ways of chopping trees from chariots.
 
India did or does not have them, period! If Pak had a superman who could fly we could destroy you anytime with super human powers!
 
Romali, i’m Sorry I must have mistaken you for another poster...
I was wrong you are in ignorant brainwashed Indian just like your compatriots
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">• 26 Feb PAF denied IAF strikes across LOC<br>• 27 Feb<br>~ 6 Strikes by PAF across LOC from within Pak Airspace <br>~ PAF shot down 2 IAF Jets wreckage seen by all<br>~ IAF pilot arrested <br>~ IAF shot down own Mi17<br>❓Technology on India's side<br>✔️Allah on Pak’s side<br> <a href="https://t.co/94sIK0O943">https://t.co/94sIK0O943</a></p>— Asif Ghafoor (@peaceforchange) <a href="https://twitter.com/peaceforchange/status/1117861902904954881?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 15, 2019</a></blockquote>
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This guy is a goldmine for cringe.
 

And what about the satellite images that show the structure untouched a few days after the supposed strike?
You guys continue to (intentionally) ignore that and overlook that, even though all the international media reported it heavily.
 
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Romali, i’m Sorry I must have mistaken you for another poster...
I was wrong you are in ignorant brainwashed Indian just like your compatriots

Yeah, I am ignorant and brain washed when Pakistanis are claiming the Indian Sukhoi was taken down, however you ask your country men for proof and they have nothing but deflecting tactics to back themselves up... At-least I don't claim Indians took out your F16 :))...
 
India can boast it has a technically superior Air Force, but the reality is, it's the skill of the pilot that counts.

Having the higher and better numbers doesn't mean squat - we all know what happened in the CT17 final.
 
Yeah, I am ignorant and brain washed when Pakistanis are claiming the Indian Sukhoi was taken down, however you ask your country men for proof and they have nothing but deflecting tactics to back themselves up... At-least I don't claim Indians took out your F16 :))...

this is what you said,

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At first I was off the impression that only trees were taken down, however Pakistan did not allow access to media or anyone else to the sight for 4 weeks, that has raised eyebrows. I am now more inclined to believe the SPICE bomb definitely may have done some damage, a few jihadis would now probably be in heaven with their 72 virgins.. However not 300 odd like the Indians are claiming lol

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This Reuters article is from 28th February 2019..

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-i...-militants-india-says-it-bombed-idUKKCN1QH29H
 
Yeah, I am ignorant and brain washed when Pakistanis are claiming the Indian Sukhoi was taken down, however you ask your country men for proof and they have nothing but deflecting tactics to back themselves up... At-least I don't claim Indians took out your F16 :))...

Majority of pakistanis dont claim they shot a SU-30 and i am one of those.

Reuters - a neutral party - has debunked the fake surgical strike claim. It was bunch of trees.

FP - a neutral party - has debunked the fake F-16 shot down. It was nothing but plain LIE.

India has on the other hand, provided no proof for the surgical strikes.

And has provided so called radar signatures to justify the F-16 shot down, which you are smart enough to know is not credible at all.

India govt and army has been lying to their junta.
 
Alan Warnes tweeting that COAS PAF ACM Mujahid confirm shooting down of SU-30MKI.
Alan Warnes is a very reputable aviation journalist writing for Airforces Monthly

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The CAS confirmed the Su-30MKI kill in addition to the MiG-21 Bison. Also added that the IAF Mi-17 that was lost was shot down by its own side possibly by a MiG-21, in a ‘red on red’ incident. He reiterated that no PAF F-16 pwas lost.</p>— Alan Warnes (@warnesyworld) <a href="https://twitter.com/warnesyworld/status/1118427653856538630?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 17, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Did India shoot down a Pakistani F-16 in February? This just became a big deal.
There are broader implications for India — and the United States
By Sameer Lalwani, Emily Tallo


April 17, 2019 at 6:00 AM


Defense officials in New Delhi on Feb. 28 display part of an air-to-air AMRAAM missile allegedly fired by a Pakistani aircraft, violating Indian airspace. Indian Air Vice Marshal R.G.K. Kapoor said parts of the missile were recovered in Indian territory. India said it shot down a Pakistani warplane, something Islamabad has denied. (Manish Swarup/AP)
With voting underway in India’s general election, February’s Kashmir conflict is likely to weigh on the minds of voters, especially given last week’s social media uproar over the reported downing of a Pakistani F-16 fighter jet during the crisis.

The controversy flared up when a Foreign Policy article stated that the Pentagon had accounted for all of Pakistan’s F-16 jets. This report, based on anonymous statements by two U.S. Defense Department officials, contradicted the Indian air force’s (IAF) narrative of the dogfight. The IAF claims an Indian pilot shot down a Pakistani F-16 fighter plane before a Pakistani missile took down his own third-generation MiG-21 warplane.

The IAF responded last week by releasing “irrefutable” evidence — including electronic signatures and radio transcripts — that Pakistan lost a fighter jet during the February aerial combat. A number of U.S. and Indian defense analysts called the evidence circumstantial. Indian media reported that a U.S. Defense Department spokesman said he was unaware of any investigation. The Pentagon, like the State Department, has yet to issue a public statement on the F-16 count, but there have been no counter-leaks contradicting the Foreign Policy report.

What happened in the India-Pakistan crisis?

The informational conflict is the latest outcome of February’s India-Pakistan crisis, which threatened to escalate to all-out war. After a Feb. 14 terrorist attack attributed to Pakistan-based Jaish-e-Mohammad killed 40 paramilitaries in Indian-administered Kashmir, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi faced powerful domestic political incentives to follow through on his promise for vengeance against Pakistan.


Related: After terrorist attack in Kashmir, will India seek vengeance or de-escalation?

Research by one of us and Hannah Haegeland suggests that the onset of international crisis stems from leaders “selecting into a crisis” because of political contexts and calculations — rather than being compelled by material conditions. Cross-border terrorist attacks targeting women and children have not triggered crises, but in this case, the proximity to the Indian national election seemed to demand retribution.

On Feb. 26, the IAF launched airstrikes against what it said were terrorist camps in Pakistan. Pakistan retaliated with fighter planes dropping their payloads in Kashmir and, in an ensuing air battle, shot down an Indian MiG-21 warplane and captured its pilot.

India claims the MiG-21 pilot shot down a more advanced Pakistan F-16 fighter aircraft before his own aircraft was downed — but Pakistan’s civilian and military leadership vehemently denied this.

Why does it matter to India?

India’s ruling Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) used the Kashmir crisis to project Modi as a strong leader against Pakistan — capitalizing on this opportunity ahead of India’s general election, which takes place from April 11 to May 19. Recent surveys suggest Modi and his party have profited from heightened nationalist sentiment with a modest but visible bump in popularity.

Related: In India, the world’s largest election has started. Keep an eye on these 5 things.

But these latest details about the India-Pakistan air battles threaten to discredit the BJP narrative and undermine its electoral prospects. Open-source satellite imagery suggests India did not hit any targets of consequence in the airstrikes it conducted after the terrorist attack on the paramilitaries. Additionally, reporting indicates that during the Feb. 27 air battle, friendly fire from an air-defense missile brought down an Indian military helicopter, killing six military personnel.


If the IAF did not, in fact, shoot down a Pakistani F-16, voters might conclude that India carried out airstrikes and has nothing to show for them but lost a pilot, a warplane, a helicopter and six other military personnel.

Any news that may tarnish perceptions of Indian military superiority over Pakistan isn’t good news for a government that pledged to improve India’s hard-power capabilities and punish Pakistan for its alleged support of terrorism. The research suggests material advantages — planes, weapons — are no guarantee of military effectiveness. This will no doubt raise questions both inside and outside of India about the IAF’s conventional advantage if it is unable punish a weaker adversary to reestablish deterrence. This could encourage Pakistan to behave more aggressively in a future India-Pakistan crisis. Both countries are nuclear powers, so any conflicts between the two raise deeper concerns about the risks of escalation and a mushroom cloud over the subcontinent.

Related: The Kashmir attack could prompt a crisis in South Asia. Here’s why.

Will there be fallout for the Indian military? Its competence and professionalism could also be called into questioned if it turns out military leaders knowingly defended an inaccurate position — particularly a partisan one that bolstered the BJP’s electoral narrative.

What does this controversy mean for the United States?

The United States also has high stakes in the F-16 controversy because of its interest in India as a rising power in Asia. Washington would no doubt have preferred to see India acquit itself well in the recent India-Pakistan conflict. National security adviser John Bolton tacitly gave a green light for India’s February retaliatory airstrikes.

Analysts think India might play a heavyweight role in the Asian balance of power if it were able to “de-hyphenate” from its western rival and “raise its gaze from Pakistan.” This might happen if the India-Pakistan conventional military asymmetry were sufficiently stark such that “Pakistan wouldn’t even dare retaliate,” as the Indian analyst Shekhar Gupta suggests.


The U.S. “Indo-Pacific Strategy” envisions India balancing against China while playing the role of a regional “net security provider” in a region that is critical to U.S. economic and strategic interests. U.S. policymakers fear that the more successful Pakistan is at trading punches with India, a more distracted India is less likely to concentrate on projecting and protecting U.S. interests in the region.

But the United States also may have an interest in seeing India become more aware of the risks of escalation in conflicts with Pakistan — as well as shortfalls in military capabilities that leave India lagging far behind China. Military analysts point to India’s notoriously lethargic procurement process, meager defense budgets, Modi’s defense indigenization campaign and dysfunctional civil-military relations as reasons for the gap between Indian military intentions and capabilities.

These criticisms include deficits in India’s air power, ammunition and “jointness” — the capability of services within the Indian military to cooperate. If the Indian government emerges sobered by the latest conflict, it might be able to surmount bureaucratic hurdles and organizational routines that constrain military adaptation, an important ingredient to seriously balancing China.

The “battle of perceptions” played heavily into the February crisis and has once again surfaced — threatening to throw a wrench into Indian and American interests alike.

Sameer Lalwani (@splalwani) is a senior fellow and director of the South Asia Program at the Stimson Center and co-editor of Investigating Crises: South Asia’s Lessons, Evolving Dynamics, and Trajectories.

Emily Tallo (@emily_tallo) is a research assistant with the South Asia Program at the Stimson Center and the deputy editor of South Asian Voices.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/2019/04/17/did-india-shoot-down-pakistani-f-back-february-this-just-became-big-deal/
 
this is what you said,

Quote

At first I was off the impression that only trees were taken down, however Pakistan did not allow access to media or anyone else to the sight for 4 weeks, that has raised eyebrows. I am now more inclined to believe the SPICE bomb definitely may have done some damage, a few jihadis would now probably be in heaven with their 72 virgins.. However not 300 odd like the Indians are claiming lol

Unquote

This Reuters article is from 28th February 2019..

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-i...-militants-india-says-it-bombed-idUKKCN1QH29H

I can't be bothered reading the article. What's your point? You can elaborate...
 
Alan Warnes tweeting that COAS PAF ACM Mujahid confirm shooting down of SU-30MKI.
Alan Warnes is a very reputable aviation journalist writing for Airforces Monthly

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The CAS confirmed the Su-30MKI kill in addition to the MiG-21 Bison. Also added that the IAF Mi-17 that was lost was shot down by its own side possibly by a MiG-21, in a ‘red on red’ incident. He reiterated that no PAF F-16 pwas lost.</p>— Alan Warnes (@warnesyworld) <a href="https://twitter.com/warnesyworld/status/1118427653856538630?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 17, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Yeah that's truth because PAF confirms shooting down the Sukhoi lol .. You have no proof, here I will play your game; IAF shot down the f16, the proof is is IAF said so... :angel:
 
Is there anything in the above article that most people don't know if Think Rationally?
 
Outcome different if Abhinandan Varthaman had flown Rafale: Ex-Air Chief ** Dhanoa

The February 2019 dogfight in which an Indian figher pilot was captured by Pakistan -- and later released -- would have unfolded differently if he'd been flying a Rafale instead of a MiG-21, former Air Force Chief ** Dhanoa said Saturday.

The pilot, Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman, shot down a Pakistani F-16 before his MiG-21 Bison was hit by an AMRAAM missile. (Pakistan denies that it ever used F-16s in the dogfight.)

"100 per cent it would have been different," ** Dhanoa said at an event in IIT-Bombay, referring to the dogfight.

"Why was he [Varthaman] not flying a Rafale? Because you took 10 years to decide which aircraft to buy. So, it [the delay] affects you," Dhanoa said, without naming the previous UPA government.

India's acquisition of Dassault Aviation's Rafale jets -- the first of which was delivered in October 2019 -- is the culmination of a story, rich in controversy and political mudslinging, that began when the UPA government issued tenders for 126 medium multi-role combat aircraft in 2007. In the run-up to last year's general election, the Congress repeatedly pointed to specifics of the NDA's deal to accuse Prime Minister Narendra Modi of crony capitalism, but the Supreme Court dismissed petitions seeking an investigation.

In his speech, ex-Air Force Chief ** Dhanoa warned of the risks of politicising the defence acquisition system: the "whole system goes behind" and "all other files also start moving at a slow pace because people start becoming very very conscious," he said -- and he specificially mentioned the controversial Bofors deal.

At the India Today Conclave held in March 2019, Prime Minister Narendra Modi said Indians believed recent events -- a reference to the military escalation with Pakistan -- would have turned out differently if India had Rafales.

** Dhanoa backed the prime minister's comments. "People are saying it is a political (statement) but the fact is that the statement he made is correct," he said.

"If we had Rafale, the question would have been totally different."

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...an-varthaman-rafale-mig-21-1634055-2020-01-05
 
Truly deplorable state of affairs when our army/AF chiefs singing tunes of their political masters. Something like this never ever happened before in our independent history.
 
agar Rafale hota tu us kay pechay ye hota ....

PL-15 BVR

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Purpose of S-400 and Rafale is to hit Pakistani aircraft inside Pakistani air space and not when they come inside our territory, former IAF Chief B S Dhanoa to PTI</p>— Press Trust of India (@PTI_News) <a href="https://twitter.com/PTI_News/status/1289949009688137729?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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I can bet on my life, whenever IAF send thre jets next time, they wont send any Rafales with thre attack Package .... it will be Mirages and Su-30s again ....
these jets are too expensive to send for any mission inside Pakistan, they know it will go down if they even dare to cross the LOC ....

and Tejas will still be in HAL production ....
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Purpose of S-400 and Rafale is to hit Pakistani aircraft inside Pakistani air space and not when they come inside our territory, former IAF Chief B S Dhanoa to PTI</p>— Press Trust of India (@PTI_News) <a href="https://twitter.com/PTI_News/status/1289949009688137729?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Bismillah karo, we are waiting!
 
India can boast it has a technically superior Air Force, but the reality is, it's the skill of the pilot that counts.

Having the higher and better numbers doesn't mean squat - we all know what happened in the CT17 final.

What many Indians, particularly the ones belonging to a certain dispensation, are blissfully ignorant about is that till very recently it was Pakistan that had a technically superior Air Force. It is only in the past 20-25 years or so that India has been able to catch up.

In the 1965 and '71 wars, Pakistan's Air Force was equipped the state of the art Sabre Jets and F-104 Starfighters. India only had ageing British jets from the 1950s. Yet, India's Air Force played a key role in ensuring that not an inch of Indian territory was lost, either in Kashmir or elsewhere.

Even since then, India's Air Force has been mostly straddled with unreliable Russian jets, with poor spares supply causing maintenance problems. In spite of all this, the IAF has been doing a remarkable job of defending India's skies, and Pakistan has still not been able to take an inch of Kashmir.

That, in case you didn't know, is what 'good piloting skills' do for you.

And that's also what defence equipment and armies are for. They are there to win wars and ensure that territory isn't lost, even a few men and planes are lost in the process. Despite all the corruption and denial of critical funds and equipment by the politicians and the arms-dealer mafia, the Indian Armed forces have been and still are doing their job very well under some very difficult circumstances.

Have any of these 'Indian intellectuals (sic)' ever asked their government why the IAF had to send Abhinandan in a 50-year old MIG -21 over Pakistani territory knowing fully well that he could have (and actually did) face the much more advanced F-16 in retaliation? Have any questions been raised by this merry bunch as to why India's own defence programs have been delayed so much and why the IAF still has to rely on the overworked HAL for their maintenance?

But of course not! They would rather question the skills of the IAF pilots!
 
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