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Just like against England in the UAE, Misbah's immediate dismissal to the second new ball shows what a disaster he will be in England, NZ and Australia in Tests this year.

Great Asian Track bully and ODI flat track survivor, but he has never had the technique to play quick bowling in Tests when the ball bounces or moves.
 
Junaids said:
Just like against England in the UAE, Misbah's immediate dismissal to the second new ball shows what a disaster he will be in England, NZ and Australia in Tests this year.

Great Asian Track bully and ODI flat track survivor, but he has never had the technique to play quick bowling in Tests when the ball bounces or moves.
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Exactly.

They will all see his real worth when he tours UK & AUS.

I reckon he will avg between 20-28. YK the same.

Mir & Ehsan are very impressive bowlers.
 
Also lovely to see Ehsan Adil show why some of us have always rated his potential as better than any other Pakistan quick of his generation apart from Amir.

The difference between him and Mir Hamza is huge.
 
axl100mph said:
Ehsan is bowling the best that I have ever seen him bowl.
Certainly, there is improvement in terms of his drive though the crease.
The back leg is following through unlike before where he would just stall after delivering the ball.
Pace is around 138-144 which together with consistent line and the side ways movt with the kookaburra is impressive.

[MENTION=139353]ChachaCricket[/MENTION] [MENTION=138980]TalentSpotterPk[/MENTION]
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Yes I think I commented on his improvement. Only needed one ball to see it.:inti
 
Junaids said:
Also lovely to see Ehsan Adil show why some of us have always rated his potential as better than any other Pakistan quick of his generation apart from Amir.

The difference between him and Mir Hamza is huge.
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U are right, looks like ehsan adil is quicker now. consistent gud line length and actually swings it both ways. Gud potential bowler, shuld be in the team.
 
Junaids said:
Just like against England in the UAE, Misbah's immediate dismissal to the second new ball shows what a disaster he will be in England, NZ and Australia in Tests this year.

Great Asian Track bully and ODI flat track survivor, but he has never had the technique to play quick bowling in Tests when the ball bounces or moves.
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He cant play swing at all. When he is set and on 150 or so. Even then if the bowling side will take 2nd new ball, misbah ll get out.
 
Junaids said:
Just like against England in the UAE, Misbah's immediate dismissal to the second new ball shows what a disaster he will be in England, NZ and Australia in Tests this year.

Great Asian Track bully and ODI flat track survivor, but he has never had the technique to play quick bowling in Tests when the ball bounces or moves.
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He has taken a big gamble by extending his career.
 
pakistancricketlover2016 said:
Bhai jaan I am not die hard fan of hammad, die hard to choro. I am not even an fan of him. I am a fan of talent. We shuld be bashing players like mohammad rizwan who actually cant play spin instead of bashing hammad. U say that his bat is coming from gully and it is dangerous and that is why he gets out lbw. U noticed that his bat comes from gully point, but u didn't noticed that he got a open stance aur wo jo 2 sec lgty hain bat ko gully se aty hue wo 2 sec khtm ho jty hain due is open stance. He is even faster on the ball due his open stance. Ye to maine smjaa diya ke gully se kyon ata hy uska bat.

A angling bat and getting catched in the slips is also not a problem for him, bcz again he doesn,t play with angling bat due his open stance that allows him to play with a straight bat and not closing his bat on the ball if the ball is angling away. Upr se ye hy uska that he plays every ball with soft hands. He has that soft touch, not hard hands. For example if the ball is on off stump then he ll open his bat a little bit. That was about his batting.

Now about his bowling. I am not saying that he is a gud bowler or something and that he shuld be in the team due his bowling, no. He shuld be in the team as a batting allrounder and can be handy as a bowler for 3 or 4 overs. For example like Matthews from sri lanka. What we were expecting from Imran khan junior, the same we can tell hammad azam, to rely on ur line length and slower balls. Then he can be a handy bowler, bcz I have seen that he is a thinking bowler.

I am also not saying that hammad azam is already the Abdul razzaq we need, but he got talent and skills. The more experience he ll get at international level, he ll get better. U can expect from nobody that he ll from the get go fulfill the duties of a great batsmen who left the game. Umeed hoti hy, players bnae jty hain. U have to look for people with most potential.

I haven't seen ahmad butt and faheem playing on screen, but I think that if they were that gud. They wuld have been picked by psl franchisers ahead of hammad, no? They both aren't even in the psl.
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Maaf kerna kisi aik bhee baat ka aap jawaab science se nai de sakay. Saaray jawaab dil aor jazbaat se diye haen.

Argument ki Koi cricketing logic honi chaheeay.

Gully se bat aaraha so Koi masla nai. Slip mein out ho Koi masla nai. Lbw ho Koi masla nai. Reaction time kahan se aa gaya beech mein ?

Aor aap ko kya ilm hai k Kitni Fc centuries k baad Matthews team mein aaya tha ? Aor uski Fc batting average 52 thee ? Pata hai? Hilarious comparing Matthews with Hammad Azam.

Anyhow aap jeet gaey hein ye argument. Mujhay mazeed discuss nai kerna Hammad ko. Allah keray k selectors ki eyes aap ki tarah khul jaein aor hammad 300 odi aor 100 tests khilaya aor 50 match jitwaey pakistan ko.

Stay Blessed.
 
Misbah and Bilawal Bhatti's lbw's are not out in international cricket.

Although both were quality deliveries.

Misbah's dismissal = impact outside off.

Bilawal dismissal = going over the stumps.
 
People chanted 'Amir Amir' while Hafeez was bowling. Sharjeel shouldn't give over respect to Hafeez. He is not that effective anymore. Misbah still living in the medieval times by relying on Hafeez with the new ball.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
Maaf kerna kisi aik bhee baat ka aap jawaab science se nai de sakay. Saaray jawaab dil aor jazbaat se diye haen.

Argument ki Koi cricketing logic honi chaheeay.

Gully se bat aaraha so Koi masla nai. Slip mein out ho Koi masla nai. Lbw ho Koi masla nai. Reaction time kahan se aa gaya beech mein ?

Aor aap ko kya ilm hai k Kitni Fc centuries k baad Matthews team mein aaya tha ? Aor uski Fc batting average 52 thee ? Pata hai? Hilarious comparing Matthews with Hammad Azam.

Anyhow aap jeet gaey hein ye argument. Mujhay mazeed discuss nai kerna Hammad ko. Allah keray k selectors ki eyes aap ki tarah khul jaein aor hammad 300 odi aor 100 tests khilaya aor 50 match jitwaey pakistan ko.

Stay Blessed.
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Ilm sirf aapko hy na kyon ke cricket ke tees maar khan ho na aap. Comparison bowling pe ki hy maine Mathews aur hammad ke beech my. Baqi unke beech batting ki comparison ny ki jaa skti kyon ke dono ke role ileda hain.

Kya yar agr argument har gye ho to seedy seedy bol do na ke thek hy bhai aap sae kh rhy ho, kya aap choty ho jahein gye? Cricket ki sense sirf aapko hi to ny ho skti.

Diplomatic jwb kis liye. Agr meri baton my koi sense na hota to aap muje phly ki tra phirse itny lmby lecture ki koshish my lg jty. Diplomatic jwb diye hain iska mtlb ye hi niklta hy ke aap ko b pta lg gya ke is bndy ko cricket ki achi khasi sense hy. thnk u bhai:farhat

Ek bat sae khai aapne ke my jo b bat krta hn dil se krta hn. Logon ki sun ke bat ny krta, agr logon ki sun ke hi bndy ne bat krni hy to wo bat na hi kry to acha hy. I have that gut feeling that I know how to build a team better than anyone else here and I have the best I to see and pick talent. That's why I have registred here, otherwise I wouldn't do it.

I have come here to open eyes of people, bcz jo doosri teams players select kr rhy hain aur jo hum kr rhy hain usme zameen asmaan ka frq hy aur humary log bi ussy support kr rhy hain. I am discussed with it, that's why I am posting comment and sharing thoughts here.

I ll keep on saying that we shuld get rid of hafeez, shehzad, assad, azhar, sarfraz, rizwan, maqsood if we want compete with the best in the world.

Nauman anwar
sharjeel khan
haris sohail
babar azam
shoaib malik
umer akmal
hammad azam
imad wasim/ zafar gohar
mohammad amir
wahab riaz
ehsan adil, sohail khan

This shuld be our future team
 
The Last Of The Stars said:
Don't compare Test cricket with Domestic FC cricket though. If it was a Test match, the stadium would have been half full at least. But still PCB should have promoted it big time in the city at least. Which they didn't. Not everyone knows about Cricinfo. Even I didn't know whether it will be telecasted live or not. I randomly tuned to PTV Sports and the match was on.
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Test cricket with most of the first team playing in the final of a domestic tournament is a pretty big thing. Disappointing to see a no show on it. If today was a Monday, that's fine but it was a no show on Sunday too.
 
pakistancricketlover2016 said:
Ilm sirf aapko hy na kyon ke cricket ke tees maar khan ho na aap. Comparison bowling pe ki hy maine Mathews aur hammad ke beech my. Baqi unke beech batting ki comparison ny ki jaa skti kyon ke dono ke role ileda hain.

Kya yar agr argument har gye ho to seedy seedy bol do na ke thek hy bhai aap sae kh rhy ho, kya aap choty ho jahein gye? Cricket ki sense sirf aapko hi to ny ho skti.

Diplomatic jwb kis liye. Agr meri baton my koi sense na hota to aap muje phly ki tra phirse itny lmby lecture ki koshish my lg jty. Diplomatic jwb diye hain iska mtlb ye hi niklta hy ke aap ko b pta lg gya ke is bndy ko cricket ki achi khasi sense hy. thnk u bhai:farhat

Ek bat sae khai aapne ke my jo b bat krta hn dil se krta hn. Logon ki sun ke bat ny krta, agr logon ki sun ke hi bndy ne bat krni hy to wo bat na hi kry to acha hy. I have that gut feeling that I know how to build a team better than anyone else here and I have the best I to see and pick talent. That's why I have registred here, otherwise I wouldn't do it.

I have come here to open eyes of people, bcz jo doosri teams players select kr rhy hain aur jo hum kr rhy hain usme zameen asmaan ka frq hy aur humary log bi ussy support kr rhy hain. I am discussed with it, that's why I am posting comment and sharing thoughts here.

I ll keep on saying that we shuld get rid of hafeez, shehzad, assad, azhar, sarfraz, rizwan, maqsood if we want compete with the best in the world.

Nauman anwar
sharjeel khan
haris sohail
babar azam
shoaib malik
umer akmal
hammad azam
imad wasim/ zafar gohar
mohammad amir
wahab riaz
ehsan adil, sohail khan

This shuld be our future team
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In both t20s and odis, same team.
 
Junaids said:
Just like against England in the UAE, Misbah's immediate dismissal to the second new ball shows what a disaster he will be in England, NZ and Australia in Tests this year.

Great Asian Track bully and ODI flat track survivor, but he has never had the technique to play quick bowling in Tests when the ball bounces or moves.
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and what Hash and AB how much they were successful in recent India tour?we all know Misbah has problems but never his fans said that he is world class.i am still sure he will do better in Eng and Aust then Saffers and Aussies did in India
 
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TalentSpotterPk said:
Misbah and Bilawal Bhatti's lbw's are not out in international cricket.

Although both were quality deliveries.

Misbah's dismissal = impact outside off.

Bilawal dismissal = going over the stumps.
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How did Akmal look out there?

He got out to Zulfi twice in the last game and today, he has got out to another SLA in the form of Yasim.

He does look weaker against the spinners, but I think SLA might be causing him more trouble out of the variety of spinners.
 
what has the crowd been like?

i was passing NS stadium today and with the floodlights it looked a magnificent sight from outside with the whole sky illuminated. Was tempted to just go in for an hour or so.
 
pakistancricketlover2016 said:
Ilm sirf aapko hy na kyon ke cricket ke tees maar khan ho na aap. Comparison bowling pe ki hy maine Mathews aur hammad ke beech my. Baqi unke beech batting ki comparison ny ki jaa skti kyon ke dono ke role ileda hain.

Kya yar agr argument har gye ho to seedy seedy bol do na ke thek hy bhai aap sae kh rhy ho, kya aap choty ho jahein gye? Cricket ki sense sirf aapko hi to ny ho skti.

Diplomatic jwb kis liye. Agr meri baton my koi sense na hota to aap muje phly ki tra phirse itny lmby lecture ki koshish my lg jty. Diplomatic jwb diye hain iska mtlb ye hi niklta hy ke aap ko b pta lg gya ke is bndy ko cricket ki achi khasi sense hy. thnk u bhai:farhat

Ek bat sae khai aapne ke my jo b bat krta hn dil se krta hn. Logon ki sun ke bat ny krta, agr logon ki sun ke hi bndy ne bat krni hy to wo bat na hi kry to acha hy. I have that gut feeling that I know how to build a team better than anyone else here and I have the best I to see and pick talent. That's why I have registred here, otherwise I wouldn't do it.

I have come here to open eyes of people, bcz jo doosri teams players select kr rhy hain aur jo hum kr rhy hain usme zameen asmaan ka frq hy aur humary log bi ussy support kr rhy hain. I am discussed with it, that's why I am posting comment and sharing thoughts here.

I ll keep on saying that we shuld get rid of hafeez, shehzad, assad, azhar, sarfraz, rizwan, maqsood if we want compete with the best in the world.

Nauman anwar
sharjeel khan
haris sohail
babar azam
shoaib malik
umer akmal
hammad azam
imad wasim/ zafar gohar
mohammad amir
wahab riaz
ehsan adil, sohail khan

This shuld be our future team
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A new star is born on PP.

Respect the Legend.

# Boulieve In Me.
 
waleed88 said:
I'm in Karachi and trust me none of my friends want to go to watch the match.. Such is the expectations ppl have from Test cricket.
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stadoim condition and facilities are terrible because with no cricket for 7 years the grounds are in disrepair.

also its domestic match. even Aussie shield cricket has low attendaance

finally its UBL v SNGPL. How the heck are you supposed to even pick a team?
 
Barragan said:
How did Akmal look out there?

He got out to Zulfi twice in the last game and today, he has got out to another SLA in the form of Yasim.

He does look weaker against the spinners, but I think SLA might be causing him more trouble out of the variety of spinners.
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I watched how innings. He was playing well. But I missed his dismissal. I have seen Yasin bowl for rawalpindi he is an ok spinner so Umar shouldn't have got out against him. If you see pattern he has been dismissed between 40 to 60 against spinners and pacers equally.

So again it's a temperament issue. Peace/Calmness issue at crease. He does not know when to press the paddle and when to release it. And than shot selection issue.

Umar Akmal k damaaghee taghaeeyuraat pe PhD kerni perhay gee.

It's all related to Brain and Mental side of his game which let's him down.

Regarding today's dismissal GreenRoars , Abdullah or WC-PASSION can tell better.
 
Slog said:
stadoim condition and facilities are terrible because with no cricket for 7 years the grounds are in disrepair.

also its domestic match. even Aussie shield cricket has low attendaance

finally its UBL v SNGPL. How the heck are you supposed to even pick a team?
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Everything is true that you said. However its not that bad, there have been domestic tournaments held in karachi in the national stadium. Atleast fill in the VIP enclosures if not the cheaper ones.
 
Why did Azhar Ali bat at number 5? How would he get the match practice if he avoids batting at number 3 under lights? Sidekick needs to grow some cojones
 
Anfield said:
Why did Azhar Ali bat at number 5? How would he get the match practice if he avoids batting at number 3 under lights? Sidekick needs to grow some cojones
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Wasn't it because Azizullah was the night watchman ?

Never liked concept of night watchmen, senior batsmen should front up and go out there themselves.
 
Markhor said:
Wasn't it because Azizullah was the night watchman ?

Never liked concept of night watchmen, senior batsmen should front up and go out there themselves.
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He didn't bat 3 either. Some Talat batted at number 3.
 
Anfield said:
Why did Azhar Ali bat at number 5? How would he get the match practice if he avoids batting at number 3 under lights? Sidekick needs to grow some cojones
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Hussein Talat has been playing at #3 all season and is just 19 so cant be unfair with a youngster by offsetting his position to just accomodate a senior number. Azizullah was nightwatchman


#boom
 
waleed88 said:
Hehe, you probably don't know Karachi as well as I do. There are people here who have house full on fuzool punjabi movies in pathetic cinemas like Prince. Where they come to watch Item songs from punjabi actreses. But cant watch a cricket? Seriously how bad can the stadium be? Its more a case of Test Matches being dudd, as compared to a t20 game where almost everyone is present. Disgusting attitude from our fans.
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That's not the problem - I do watch lots of subtitled French & Italian movies, but hardly watch NSW vs Victoria in Shield Final.

Problem is somewhere else - what do you expect from local people when 5 Punjabi, 4 Sindhi, 3 Pashtun, 3 Pathan & ........ coming from 20 different locality are representing some UBL/SSGC while half of them might represent PIA or Habib Bank next year? Home & away culture was introduced 300 years back in English village cricket, later every major sports in most countries had gone to the same route, even global team events like Ryder Cup or Davis Cup - that too more than 100 years back; that's why I say PCB's Domestic style is unique.
 
Slog said:
Hussein Talat has been playing at #3 all season and is just 19 so cant be unfair with a youngster by offsetting his position to just accomodate a senior number. Azizullah was nightwatchman


#boom
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except sidekick has been batting at number 3. Here you go.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/quaid-e-azam-2015-16/engine/match/931334.html. Even in last match he played batted at number 3 but didn't in this match because he was afraid to face the new ball under lights. The man who bats at number 3 for Pakistan should continue to do so in domestic as well to gain as much experience as he wants. Shouldn't be afraid of pink ball under the lights. This Talat guy has been batting at number 4 or lower the whole time. He was only promoted at number 3 because sidekick missed out that match. Once sidekick was back, seems like he didn't want to bat at his usual position and sent in the rookie to bat under lights.

Now Boom Bam whatever..
 
Anfield said:
except sidekick has been batting at number 3. Here you go.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/quaid-e-azam-2015-16/engine/match/931334.html. Even in last match he played batted at number 3 but didn't in this match because he was afraid to face the new ball under lights. The man who bats at number 3 for Pakistan should continue to do so in domestic as well to gain as much experience as he wants. Shouldn't be afraid of pink ball under the lights. This Talat guy has been batting at number 4 or lower the whole time. He was only promoted at number 3 because sidekick missed out that match. Once sidekick was back, seems like he didn't want to bat at his usual position and sent in the rookie to bat under lights.

Now Boom Bam whatever..
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check the match scorecards.

'sidekick' was captain in the match he batted at #3 so he picked where he wanted to bat. Here he is not captain
 
Bullet Drive said:
Exactly.

They will all see his real worth when he tours UK & AUS.

I reckon he will avg between 20-28. YK the same.

Mir & Ehsan are very impressive bowlers.
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He'll be a walking wicket.

But cricket in the UK is not more 'real' or 'true' than what's played elsewhere.

Just different, requiring different skills
 
#GreenRoars said:
Bro Hammad can't play spin, playing against Azhar Ali isn't prove that he is good player of spin. Overall he isn't a genuine all rounder for international standards. At U19 level, he was a very good prospect, but he regressed a lot with the time.
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OOO bhai logoooo, chllo thk hy 1 sec ke liye man liya ke wo spin ko ny khl skta, he cant play spin ok. Pr itni to khl leta hy na ke survive kr skta hy. He wont play at no 4 that he shuld be brilliant against spin. He ll be our finisher my dear bro, smjty kyn ny aap log.
 
#GreenRoars said:
Bro Hammad can't play spin, playing against Azhar Ali isn't prove that he is good player of spin. Overall he isn't a genuine all rounder for international standards. At U19 level, he was a very good prospect, but he regressed a lot with the time.
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Class is permanent u cant regress, remember that.
 
pakistancricketlover2016 said:
OOO bhai logoooo, chllo thk hy 1 sec ke liye man liya ke wo spin ko ny khl skta, he cant play spin ok. Pr itni to khl leta hy na ke survive kr skta hy. He wont play at no 4 that he shuld be brilliant against spin. He ll be our finisher my dear bro, smjty kyn ny aap log.
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Azhar achi khasi spin kraa rha hy bro aur leg side k bhar kraa rha hy, ussy test kr rha, azhar is not anything less than other leg spinners around the world. For a moment forget about yasir. Don't compare yasir and azhar, azhar' s is bowling gud here.
 
samiakh said:
Pink ball at dusk is impossible to sight. YK and Hammad unlucky.
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Just a question. Are our lights as good as those witnessed I Australia in day night cricket ?

How do you compare pink and orange balls wrt visibility ?
 
Natl stadium lights not as good as Adelaide. Even in Adelaide batting at dusk was hardest.
 
pakistancricketlover2016 said:
Class is permanent u cant regress, remember that.
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Bro i don't believe on this thing. For me, performance > non performing class.
Hammad Azam can't take international pressure and we have seen this many times. And if he plays, surely he will be playing lower down the order, he won't get much time to do tuck tuck in LOIs.
In all cases, Yaamen is currently best prospect as compared to Hammad. So i think we should stick with Yaamen and should groom him further with future. Yes, if Hammad gives some extra ordinary seasons, then sure he should be selected for the team.
 
samiakh said:
Natl stadium lights not as good as Adelaide. Even in Adelaide batting at dusk was hardest.
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Even in daynight odi cricket there is a short period of time when flood lights take their time to light up fully at dusk and there is white ball visibility issues for few minutes. Does this affect lasts longer in day night tests with pink or orange ball ? And is it bearable cricketing wise ?

It can be very very dangerous if there is a 150+ kph fast bowler running in at that time.
 
#GreenRoars said:
Bro i don't believe on this thing. For me, performance > non performing class.
Hammad Azam can't take international pressure and we have seen this many times. And if he plays, surely he will be playing lower down the order, he won't get much time to do tuck tuck in LOIs.
In all cases, Yaamen is currently best prospect as compared to Hammad. So i think we should stick with Yaamen and should groom him further with future. Yes, if Hammad gives some extra ordinary seasons, then sure he should be selected for the team.
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He ll give in the psl just wait and watch, yamin is not a long term option for sure.
 
How come there's such a huge difference between the class of Misbah and all the other batsmen?

Everyone's getting out to the pink ball specially at night.

Misbah was the only guy playing effortlessly and stayed long enough at the crease.
 
Hawkeye said:
How come there's such a huge difference between the class of Misbah and all the other batsmen?

Everyone's getting out to the pink ball specially at night.

Misbah was the only guy playing effortlessly and stayed long enough at the crease.
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Misbah and Younis both.
 
Did anyone actually see Bhatti bowling or all of you're going by the scorecard?
 
Junaids said:
Just like against England in the UAE, Misbah's immediate dismissal to the second new ball shows what a disaster he will be in England, NZ and Australia in Tests this year.

Great Asian Track bully and ODI flat track survivor, but he has never had the technique to play quick bowling in Tests when the ball bounces or moves.
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Stop worrying about Pakistan and focus on your own team.
 
Mir bowling decently from around the wicket to the right-handers, but he needs to increase his pace. Looks medium-fast at best.
 
Misbah, Azhar and Umar should easily score the remaining 100 odd runs to win yet another title for SNGPL.

The horror of pink ball during night is over. SNGPL's game to loose.
 
By the way, talent or class is no where to be seen in this premier first class final. This tournament has failed to bring about any notable emerging talent for the country.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
Even in daynight odi cricket there is a short period of time when flood lights take their time to light up fully at dusk and there is white ball visibility issues for few minutes. Does this affect lasts longer in day night tests with pink or orange ball ? And is it bearable cricketing wise ?

It can be very very dangerous if there is a 150+ kph fast bowler running in at that time.
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I attended the Night Test.

There is no danger period.

The Pink Kookaburra requires a grassy surface to keep it from becoming ragged. Bowlers benefit from bowling a full length, and the vision issue is the seam, not the location of the ball.
 
Junaids said:
I attended the Night Test.

There is no danger period.

The Pink Kookaburra requires a grassy surface to keep it from becoming ragged. Bowlers benefit from bowling a full length, and the vision issue is the seam, not the location of the ball.
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Thanks for your insight.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
Even in daynight odi cricket there is a short period of time when flood lights take their time to light up fully at dusk and there is white ball visibility issues for few minutes. Does this affect lasts longer in day night tests with pink or orange ball ? And is it bearable cricketing wise ?

It can be very very dangerous if there is a 150+ kph fast bowler running in at that time.
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TalentSpotterPk said:
Thanks for your insight.
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Also, because it is like a greentop Test, you won't miss Yasir Shah at all at Adelaide in your Night Test. But the likes of Amir, Ehsan Adil and Asif would cause havoc that Wahab Riaz would not, simply by bowling a full length, not too quickly.
 
I Was in the stadium today.When Azhar and Hafeez were coming back to the ground after the dinner break,the majority of the fans started shouting "Amir,Amir!"But Hafeez just gestured at them to get louder.After a few moments Azhar came out of the dressing room and fans started chanting crazily and were cursing Azhar.
Believe it or not,Azhar showed them the finger!I was not expecting that.A crazy fan also made a poster saying,"We miss you M.Amir"
 
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A pattern seems to be emerging.

Amir has been welcomed back by mainstream Pakistanis (who would be described in England as "working class) and by the western educated elite.

But he has a much less positive welcome from semi-educated/religious/blind nationalist people who are not western educated and don't understand western laws.

It will be fascinating to see where this goes.

Meanwhile overseas the only problems will be with the drunken yobbo component of crowds, especially at Birmingham and Brisbane. And they won't be able to distinguish between Amir, Asif and Butt. And will probably have more hate for any bearded Pakistan players anyway, who will be fitted into their anti-Muslim hysteria.
 
Arham_PakFan said:
I Was in the stadium today.When Azhar and Hafeez were coming back to the ground after the dinner break,the majority of the fans started shouting "Amir,Amir!"But Hafeez just gestured at them to get louder.After a few moments Azhar came out of the dressing room and fans started chanting crazily and were cursing Azhar.
Believe it or not,Azhar showed them the finger!I was not expecting that.A crazy fan also made a poster saying,"We miss you M.Amir"
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Can't blame Azhar
 
Bhaatti taking 8 wicktes does tell the quality of batting in final

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8 wickets for Bhatti....
i think he is a good bowler, who would be disappointed with his international output.
would definitely pick him over anwar ali
 
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