Queensland government members tell Indian team don’t come to Brisbane if you can’t play by the rules

[cricketjoshila]

And what are the odds of the England players being allowed out in public at any point during the India tour like the Indians want to be able to in Brisbane?

India agreed to this tour on basis of certain exemptions being given, they weren't required to quarantine in rooms only twice during the tour.

Room quarantine means that they cant even meet each other except during training or playing. Its actually a kind of isolation.

Why did this condition arise? Because there is a outbreak in Sydney and hence Queensland government wants the players to isolate after coming from Sydney. CA could have skipped Sydney. But due to political reasons they wont skip Sydney. So Indian team has to suffer? Why?

When England comes, they will be told the condition before hand.

Btw IPL teams booked entire hotel wings for their teams in uae, so that they could freely move about and not be confined to rooms.

 

[Shazzam]

This is a state level issue. If India abort the tour because of non-compliance with the state set protocols, the state will reimburse the loss incurred by the Australian cricket board for that matter. Or at least it is not in the hands of The ACB anymore and they can reclaim the loss.

Australia wont let its cricket die of poverty because India couldnt follow their state rules

My point is India can dictate things here cause they are in a way doing Australia a favor by doing this tour. So the government can say what ever they want in the end it will be Australia’s loss if this match does not go through.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Yea against the Australia C team without Smith, Warner and Bancroft.

Pakistan hasnt even drawn a test in Australia in 20 years. Have some shame.

 

[Devadwal]

People should firstly understand than these restrictions ( Brisbane quarantine) new, Not before series start so india its nit india fault .just sift the venue uf they want to continue series or called off tour. But no quarantine again .

 

[cricketjoshila]

Where are all those Indians who made fun of Pakistan cricket team when we received warnings from NZ government? Now you lot have received your own medicine. Never make fun of someone who’s down. It will come back to bite you.

India has been warned? Lol. India has said they wont travel to Brisbane at all.

While you team and board just rolled over to whatever the NZ govt said.

 

[Rana]

My point is India can dictate things here cause they are in a way doing Australia a favor by doing this tour. So the government can say what ever they want in the end it will be Australia’s loss if this match does not go through.

In cricket, yes they are doing Australia a favour. On a state level, they are just a sports team. And The Australians would care less, especially the people of Queensland. I dont speak for the Australian public and its mood, I doubt they give two hoots about the Indian cricket team (or even The Austrlalian cricket team for that matter). Whilst we are all living in this bubble where India seems to have is way in everything cricket and ICC related, it isnt the case on a state and government level as you can see right here.

There is an investigation going on on 5 players, this is because the matter is on a state level where the lives of Australians has been put in danger because of a possible breach of Covid protocols. Had this just been our little cricket bubble world, I doubt there would even be an investigation.

 

[cricketjoshila]

LOL no matter how u try to twist it. Reality is Pakistan team is treated very well by governments while India is getting humiliated. So much for being the richest cricket board lol

Your CEO was told that the team will be sent back from NZ. There were public warnings with mefia asking that Pakistan team be made an example out of. That is humiliation. Pakistan and PCB simply rolled over and abided.

Indian team has said they wont travel to Brisbane if they have to room quarantine. The govt has to either exempt them( which they may not) or India wont travel. Both sides sticking to their points.

 

[cricketjoshila]

If you really believe the video has nothing to do with it you are only misleading yourself.

Issue is that teams will travel to Sydney, where there is a covid outbreak. Hence when they enter Brisbane they may have to quarantine.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Pretty clear to see that the Indians are laying the foundation to chicken out of the tour after their fluke win against an off-colour Australia in Melbourne.

That, and their misplaced sense of over-entitlement is why they don't endear themselves to cricket fans worldwide. Never have.

You had a bad experience during your IPL days?

 

[Pakhs]

Not really. Not coming to the state is not the same as being told to leave the country. Even if India does not play in Brisbane they can play else where in the country. Where as Pakistan was bluntly told to leave the country.

Go back? Indian team is not even in Queensland right now. Go back where? )

And you're asking what's wrong with me lmao.

New Zealand were threatening Pakistan that they'll freakin deport them back to Islamabad.

How is it the "same" as some opposition minister from an Australian state saying 'dont come to our state' ? Please explain man. I'm all ears.

Didn't realize Sydney was in India? The Guy made the statement knowing full well India is already in the country and the series is well underway unlike Pakistan who didnt even start playing yet so technically the series was not even started and weren't threatened half way into what they were there to do.

Please wake up from your dream Sydney is not in India, Its in Australia and one of the minister has threatened to block their entry where they re scheduled to go next if they cant follow the rules following what he has seen recently with Indian players breaking the rules. Either follow the rules and follow the journey into Australia as scheduled or go home which bit you don't understand?

 

[HitWicket]

As long as quarantine is done after you enter a country, you are allowed to live like any other resident. Here Queensland govt is asking another 14 days quarantine (stuck in hotel) bcoz you travelled from a seperate state of the same country. Its like Pak team is asked to do another quarantine when they travelled from Mount Maunganui to Christchurch.

If a country cant follow nation wide quarantine rules...its better to have most matches at same venue. In India as well most states have seperate quarantine rules and hence BCCI have asked English team to play most games in Ahmedabad.

Realistically they won't be allowed to live like any other resident in India though, they'll be required to stay in a bubble restricted to their hotels and the ground . Just like India are being required to do for a short period in Brisbane.

 

[naseem]

Where r those who hurled blame and abuses to pak players at the beginning of Nz tour

 

[cricketjoshila]

Exactly my point. TBF [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] was very much in support of Pakistan at the time when the NZ health minister offended all of Pakistan with his privilege comments.

And i tell you, Indian team wont travel to Brisbane unless some exemptions are made. The players have made this clear to the board.

 

[Shazzam]

In cricket, yes they are doing Australia a favour. On a state level, they are just a sports team. And The Australians would care less, especially the people of Queensland. I dont speak for the Australian public and its mood, I doubt they give two hoots about the Indian cricket team (or even The Austrlalian cricket team for that matter). Whilst we are all living in this bubble where India seems to have is way in everything cricket and ICC related, it isnt the case on a state and government level as you can see right here.

There is an investigation going on on 5 players, this is because the matter is on a state level where the lives of Australians has been put in danger because of a possible breach of Covid protocols. Had this just been our little cricket bubble world, I doubt there would even be an investigation.

Of course the country will care about its people over a simple cricket match. However the Cricket team thats hosting it will most likely make separate arrangements to favor the richer guest. We’ll see what happens as we follow this news.

 

[Pakhs]

Not really. Not coming to the state is not the same as being told to leave the country. Even if India does not play in Brisbane they can play else where in the country. Where as Pakistan was bluntly told to leave the country.

That video may have prompted Indian team to made that statement that they are reluctant to do another hard quarantine in Queensland. But the statement of Shadow minister was in response to the statement made by Indian team and not on the basis of that video.

So you agree without the video there would not be of this coming out? The minister is worried there will be another breach from Indians and wants to remind them that if they cant follow the rule go back to India.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Realistically they won't be allowed to live like any other resident in India though, they'll be required to stay in a bubble restricted to their hotels and the ground . Just like India are being required to do for a short period in Brisbane.

Restricted to rooms only. Not even hotel.

You cannot meet your team mates. Cant eat together. Basically an isolation.

 

[Shazzam]

Where r those who hurled blame and abuses to pak players at the beginning of Nz tour

All here. Just read the thread.

 

[Pakhs]

Not really. Not coming to the state is not the same as being told to leave the country. Even if India does not play in Brisbane they can play else where in the country. Where as Pakistan was bluntly told to leave the country.

Issue is that teams will travel to Sydney, where there is a covid outbreak. Hence when they enter Brisbane they may have to quarantine.

Of course, They have been told to follow the rules or go back to India.

 

[Rajdeep]

So you agree without the video there would not be of this coming out? The minister is worried there will be another breach from Indians and wants to remind them that if they cant follow the rule go back to India.

Minister's statement has nothing to do with the video. Indian players have realized that another hard quarantine is impossible but present covid situation demands exactly that in the state of Queensland. Hence they have shown reluctancy in travelling to Brisbane on which shadow minister replied...if you dont want to follow rules, no need to come.

If it has anything to do with the video, shadow minister would have given a statement yesterday itself when the video surfaced that we dont want Indian team to come here. But they didnt and only commented when Indian players made the statement suggests that video has got nothing to do here.

 

[Mobashir]

So here the first team that is making problems out of covid tours.
No surprise it's India with their poor mentality. They are the most dislikable team for a reason.

 

[HitWicket]

And these guys were laughing at Pakistan when the NZ health minister made racist remarks against them...

Threatening to withdraw peoples visas (which were already received as a special exemption) on the basis of them breaking the law and potentially endangering the health/lives of the local citizens is not racism.

 

[El Generico]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] How did the Australian politicians dare do this? Did they mistake India for 7th ranked Pakistan? I thought you promised no such comments would be made if India broke the rules.

Anyways I am sure India will now officially declare war on Australia any minute now. Has the Australian ambassador been expelled from India yet?

 

[Pakhs]

Minister's statement has nothing to do with the video. Indian players have realized that another hard quarantine is impossible but present covid situation demands exactly that in the state of Queensland. Hence they have shown reluctancy in travelling to Brisbane on which shadow minister replied...if you dont want to follow rules, no need to come.

If it has anything to do with the video, shadow minister would have given a statement yesterday itself when the video surfaced that we dont want Indian team to come here. But they didnt and only commented when Indian players made the statement suggests that video has got nothing to do here.

So he would have commented regardless? Can you suggest why he would insult Indians like that without no reason? I dont think he would have that would be no way of treat a visiting team.

 

[Rana]

Threatening to withdraw peoples visas (which were already received as a special exemption) on the basis of them breaking the law and potentially endangering the health/lives of the local citizens is not racism.

Your telling an ex SOASian what can be read as racism and what cannot?

 

[Devadwal]

Rohit, Pant & Gill will play in Sydney despite all the hullabaloo, says a report.



https://t.co/NDhtYyNnuK

 

[HitWicket]

Restricted to rooms only. Not even hotel.

You cannot meet your team mates. Cant eat together. Basically an isolation.

Unsurprisingly, you're making up nonsense:

Queensland Chief Health Officer Jeannette Young made no apologies on Sunday, saying “if they come to Queensland after having been in declared hotspots, they will have to quarantine”,

“They can have bubbles within that hotel because they’re going to be playing with colleagues in the match so they’re going to have exposure there,” Young said. “That’s absolutely fine but they can’t leave the hotel and they can’t go out into the general community..."

 

[Rajdeep]

So here the first team that is making problems out of covid tours.
No surprise it's India with their poor mentality. They are the most dislikable team for a reason.

Its the 1st team that has been asked to do hard quarantine per state as well. India already did quarantine after entering Australia and now due to rise in Covid cases, they want them to do another 14 days quarantine for entering Brisbane. Players are saying in that case lets have the last 2 tests in Sydney itself and not happy to go through another quarantine. I think its a fair ask but you went to an extent, without understanding the gravity of the situation, that Indian team is the most disliked team )

 

[cricketjoshila]

Of course, They have been told to follow the rules or go back to India.

India has said they would rather not travel to Brisbane then follow their rules.

 

[El Generico]

India has been warned? Lol. India has said they wont travel to Brisbane at all.

While you team and board just rolled over to whatever the NZ govt said.

Rolled over? Lol dude there is a pandemic going on, following the rules set by the host is not rolling over, it’s just normal human behaviour.

Why is everything a war for some of you?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Unsurprisingly, you're making up nonsense:

From the OP


"The Australian side has already been informed it will be kept in hotel rooms when not training or playing but the Indian team is yet to receive confirmation."

 

[HitWicket]

Your telling an ex SOASian what can be read as racism and what cannot?

Yes, your place of education has no relevance here. They weren't threatened on the basis of their race, they were threatened on the basis of them breaking the law.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Rolled over? Lol dude there is a pandemic going on, following the rules set by the host is not rolling over, it’s just normal human behaviour.

Why is everything a war for some of you?

Yes the way NZ govt behaved with the pakistan team, it was disgraceful.

If it was done to Indian team, Bcci would have been advised to bring them back.

 

[Rajdeep]

So he would have commented regardless? Can you suggest why he would insult Indians like that without no reason? I dont think he would have that would be no way of treat a visiting team.

Dont think he insulted Indians at all. He said if you cant follow the rules, which Indian players dont want to anyway (another hard quarantine), dont come to Queensland. Not sure where did you see any insult here.

The shadow minister is absolutely within his right to lay down the rules of his state. At the same token, Indian players also have rights to raise their concern regarding extra quarantine protocols which were not discussed prior to the series.

I dont see any insult here from anyone...lol.

 

[Rana]

Yes, your education has no relevance here. They weren't threatened on the basis of their race, they were threatened on the basis of them breaking the law.

All clear from the 'pro white narrative'.

 

[cricketjoshila]

And these guys were laughing at Pakistan when the NZ health minister made racist remarks against them...

Well, India will refuse to go to Brisbane. That should be it.

 

[Rana]

So does Australia also have to Quarantine in Queensland? Or is it just something the Indians are being asked to do?

 

[El Generico]

Yes the way NZ govt behaved with the pakistan team, it was disgraceful.

If it was done to Indian team, Bcci would have been advised to bring them back.

Wasn’t it just one minister who made a harsh comment? Don’t we see the same thing here? Didn’t this Queensland politician make an equally harsh comment about India?

Do you think BCCI is going to pull out of the tour now?

 

[HitWicket]

All clear from the 'pro white narrative'.

They don't break the law and potentially endanger the health and lives of local citizens and they don't get threatened, simple as that.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Wasn’t it just one minister who made a harsh comment? Don’t we see the same thing here? Didn’t this Queensland politician make an equally harsh comment about India?

Do you think BCCI is going to pull out of the tour now?

There were regular statements and media comments.

Bcci will not travel to Queensland. As simple as that.

 

[Abdullah Rabbani]

During covid Australian cricket was struggling.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...-of-millions-of-dollars-in-coronavirus-crisis

Every country is suffering from covid-19 but there is difference between 2000$ and 57000$ gdp per capita

 

[cricketjoshila]

Every country is suffering from covid-19 but there is difference between 2000$ and 57000$ gdp per capita

So why was CA literally grovelling for India to tour? Why is Bcci making 3 times the money CA makes?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Why are the teams traveling to a hotspot, Sydney? If they dont travel to Sydney, there is no need for quarantine in Brisbane?

Play next test in Melbourne and then go to Brisbane.

Or play two tests in Brisbane.

Or play in Brisbane and then go to Sydney.

There are ways to solve this to the satisfaction of both India and Queensland.

 

[Abdullah Rabbani]

So why was CA literally grovelling for India to tour? Why is Bcci making 3 times the money CA makes?

Only 3 time's despite a top sport in country with 134 crores more population

 

[cricketjoshila]

Only 3 time's despite a top sport in country with 134 crores more population

Yes only $3.55bn in broadcast deals for 5 years compared to approx 900mn of CA( Which Seven is refusing to pay)

 

[Junaids]

As long as quarantine is done after you enter a country, you are allowed to live like any other resident. Here Queensland govt is asking another 14 days quarantine (stuck in hotel) bcoz you travelled from a seperate state of the same country. Its like Pak team is asked to do another quarantine when they travelled from Mount Maunganui to Christchurch.

If a country cant follow nation wide quarantine rules...its better to have most matches at same venue. In India as well most states have seperate quarantine rules and hence BCCI have asked English team to play most games in Ahmedabad.

You clearly don’t understand.

NSW and Victoria have community transmission, while Queensland does not.

So NOBODY, regardless of ethnicity or nationality, can finish a Test in Sydney on 9 January and then go to Brisbane and leave their hotel. Including the Aussie team.

It’s the Law. If you are lucky enough to be allowed to travel from Sydney to Brisbane - and 99% of people are not allowed to at all - then you do 14 days of hotel quarantine.

It applies to Pat Cummins just as much as Jadeja or Pant.

 

[Devadwal]

You clearly don’t understand.

NSW and Victoria have community transmission, while Queensland does not.

So NOBODY, regardless of ethnicity or nationality, can finish a Test in Sydney on 9 January and then go to Brisbane and leave their hotel. Including the Aussie team.

It’s the Law. If you are lucky enough to be allowed to travel from Sydney to Brisbane - and 99% of people are not allowed to at all - then you do 14 days of hotel quarantine.

It applies to Pat Cummins just as much as Jadeja or Pant.

Then move test from Brisbane to any other place.its simple , that's what india want.

 

[Birdman]

The best way to resolve this would be to play the last two test in Sydney and skip Queensland. Govt of Queensland priority is to protect the well-being of its citizens.

 

[Rajdeep]

You clearly don’t understand.

NSW and Victoria have community transmission, while Queensland does not.

So NOBODY, regardless of ethnicity or nationality, can finish a Test in Sydney on 9 January and then go to Brisbane and leave their hotel. Including the Aussie team.

It’s the Law. If you are lucky enough to be allowed to travel from Sydney to Brisbane - and 99% of people are not allowed to at all - then you do 14 days of hotel quarantine.

It applies to Pat Cummins just as much as Jadeja or Pant.

Well thats fine and if there is a rule in place, people must adhere to it. But Indian players have already done quarantine after entering Australia. They are well within their rights to demand of not doing another hard quarantine in Queensland. So they are asking either play last 2 tests in Sydney or skip New South Wales all together. Have the 3rd test in MCG and then the final one in Gabba or both the tests in Gabba.

Indian players are not asking Australian authorities to bend the rule for them. They are just asking CA to make reasonable arrangements within the rule which would save them for 3rd hard quarantine within a month.

 

[Junaids]

India agreed to this tour on basis of certain exemptions being given, they weren't required to quarantine in rooms only twice during the tour.

Room quarantine means that they cant even meet each other except during training or playing. Its actually a kind of isolation.

Why did this condition arise? Because there is a outbreak in Sydney and hence Queensland government wants the players to isolate after coming from Sydney. CA could have skipped Sydney. But due to political reasons they wont skip Sydney. So Indian team has to suffer. Why?.

The same rules apply to BOTH teams. And the bubble is less strict than the one Pakistan endured in England for 11 weeks.

The quarantine rules to apply in the event of a closed border were agreed to by all parties in November, specifically:

Government of New South Wales
Government of Queensland
Government of South Australia
Government of Victoria
Cricket Australia
BCCI

The agreement was that should an outbreak lead to a border closing, the host government could allow the match to proceed on condition that the players were Covid tested before and after arrival, and restricted to their hotel at all times when not at or en route to the ground.

Both Boards signed up to this. And it was always likely to be invoked, it’s surprising that the SA outbreak didn’t lead to it a month ago.

I live in brisbane guys. Trust me. Premier ain't doing crap. He is just trying to collect some votes to appear like a god to the public. Either India will play here or play in scg /mcg again.

I live on the Gold Coast.

The Queensland governments has just won the election, and is popular because it has used closed borders to keep the virus out. Our population is 5 million yet we have only had 6 deaths, and we haven’t had a community transmission case for months.

The policy works and is popular, and applies equally to both teams. India won’t get an exemption by having a tantrum.

It’s not grandstanding - it is a successful public health policy: Queensland and WA are the joint second most successful Covid-containing governments in the world after New Zealand.

 

[Mamoon]

Still, leave it to [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] to find a way to defend this

What is there to defend. I am not concerned with what India does or doesn’t.

 

[Mesozoic]

Didn't realize Sydney was in India? The Guy made the statement knowing full well India is already in the country and the series is well underway unlike Pakistan who didnt even start playing yet so technically the series was not even started and weren't threatened half way into what they were there to do.

Please wake up from your dream Sydney is not in India, Its in Australia and one of the minister has threatened to block their entry where they re scheduled to go next if they cant follow the rules following what he has seen recently with Indian players breaking the rules. Either follow the rules and follow the journey into Australia as scheduled or go home which bit you don't understand?

Looks like you've read absolutely nothing on this, just read the thread title and came here to vent out and embarrass yourselves.

"The guy" is a Queensland shadow minister. What right does he (it's a she though) have to comment who stays in Australia and who doesn't. And where did she even mention the "go home" part.

You're trying way to hard to draw parallels between your team's earlier situation in NZ and the one here with India.

I repeat. No Australian has made threats of deporting us back to India. So, it's not the same thing as you want it to be.

 

[Mamoon]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] How did the Australian politicians dare do this? Did they mistake India for 7th ranked Pakistan? I thought you promised no such comments would be made if India broke the rules.

Anyways I am sure India will now officially declare war on Australia any minute now. Has the Australian ambassador been expelled from India yet?

I have no control over the views of an individual Australian politician.

 

[El Generico]

I have no control over the views of an individual Australian politician.

Never said that you did but didn’t you claim that the NZ minister only made the comments about Pakistan because we are a lowly team and no one would dare to do the same against India? These comments by the Queensland shadow minister really does shatter that point.

Anyway hopefully now you and some others here realize that governments generally don’t care about how high you are ranked or how rich your cricket board is.

 

[Junaids]

Restricted to rooms only. Not even hotel.

You cannot meet your team mates. Cant eat together. Basically an isolation.

The same rule that applies to every Australian who gets an exemption to travel from Sydney to Brisbane.

You have to pay $3100 to be confined to a hotel room for 14 days - you don’t even get given a room key, and if you leave the room there is armed security in the corridor. That’s how we prevent the virus from spreading when we get an outbreak in one state.

Its the 1st team that has been asked to do hard quarantine per state as well. India already did quarantine after entering Australia and now due to rise in Covid cases, they want them to do another 14 days quarantine for entering Brisbane.

Wrong. The same demands apply to Australia too. And did when they returned from the IPL.

So does Australia also have to Quarantine in Queensland? Or is it just something the Indians are being asked to do?

Yes, exactly. But they aren’t spoilt brats who are using it as an excuse to avoid being beaten at the Gabba.

The best way to resolve this would be to play the last two test in Sydney and skip Queensland. Govt of Queensland priority is to protect the well-being of its citizens.

No, the best solution would be to drop the Sydney Test - there is an outbreak in Sydney - and play two Tests in Brisbane.

Well thats fine and if there is a rule in place, people must adhere to it. But Indian players have already done quarantine after entering Australia. They are well within their rights to demand of not doing another hard quarantine.

Indian players are not asking Australian authorities to bend the rule for them. They are just asking CA to make reasonable arrangements within the rule which would save them for 3rd hard quarantine within a month.

Why?

Their Board signed up to these arrangements, and Australia are going through exactly the same quarantines.

Do you not understand that in Australia we have DOMESTIC border closures and quarantine? I’ve been telling people this for months.

And England, Pakistan, the West Indies and Australia suffered STRICTER restrictions last summer in England.

 

[Junaids]

India is welcome to Forfeit the Brisbane Test and its 30 World Test Championship points.

Which will basically guarantee that the World Test Championship Final will be Australia v New Zealand at Lords.

 

[KoyoAli]

I have no control over the views of an individual Australian politician.

You have called for the banning of Pakistan from cricket for much less. And hilariously England's tour of SA was cut short due to Covid breaches and now this is happening with India in Aus. Take your humble pie, Pakistan despite the hiccups will honourable complete their tour.

 

[Mesozoic]

India is welcome to Forfeit the Brisbane Test and its 30 World Test Championship points.

Which will basically guarantee that the World Test Championship Final will be Australia v New Zealand at Lords.

No it doesn't.

 

[angrypathan]

Jeez India is desperate to not play a test at the Gabba. Bunch of cowards

 

[Rajdeep]

Why?

Their Board signed up to these arrangements, and Australia are going through exactly the same quarantines.

Do you not understand that in Australia we have DOMESTIC border closures and quarantine? I’ve been telling people this for months.

And England, Pakistan, the West Indies and Australia suffered STRICTER restrictions last summer in England.

Why not?

The cases in NSW spiked up in the middle of the tour. So they have not signed the arrangements keeping in mind that they need to do another hard quarantine in Brisbane.

And even if it was signed, its not a signature on death sentence...lol. Boards across the world make arragements and changes if the situation demands. The logical sense suggests that rather than forcing the team to go through another 14 day hard quarantine, have test matches on venues where it is not required. Have both the test matches in Brisbane if your only concern is India will get away without playing in fortress Gabba...lol.

Pakistan, West Indies all did quarantine at the start of the tournament. No team has done mid tour hard quarantine. Its not right for players mental strength neither from practice point of view.

There is a reason whu BCCI arranged most games in Ahmedabad when Engalnd tours. Will they be happy if they have to do a quarantine in Gujrat..play 1st test and then do another 14 day quarantine in West Bengal before playing 2nd test in Eden Gardens...and then another one before 3rd test...so on and so forth. Lets use some brain for once....shall we?

Again, no one is questioning Australia's domestic border quarantine rules. The only ask here is to make arrangements keeping those rules in mind. You are just being bitter unfortunately.

 

[Birdman]

The same rule that applies to every Australian who gets an exemption to travel from Sydney to Brisbane.

You have to pay $3100 to be confined to a hotel room for 14 days - you don’t even get given a room key, and if you leave the room there is armed security in the corridor. That’s how we prevent the virus from spreading when we get an outbreak in one state.


Wrong. The same demands apply to Australia too. And did when they returned from the IPL.



Yes, exactly. But they aren’t spoilt brats who are using it as an excuse to avoid being beaten at the Gabba.


No, the best solution would be to drop the Sydney Test - there is an outbreak in Sydney - and play two Tests in Brisbane.


Why?

Their Board signed up to these arrangements, and Australia are going through exactly the same quarantines.

Do you not understand that in Australia we have DOMESTIC border closures and quarantine? I’ve been telling people this for months.

And England, Pakistan, the West Indies and Australia suffered STRICTER restrictions last summer in England.

Hum nope. Queensland is the one that’s changing what was agreed up on. It is understandable because they are doing what’s best for their constituents. At the same time Indian cricketers don’t have to abide by change of quarantine rules and can decline to do to Queensland. It’s up to CA to make the 4th test happen as they are the host. So if both BCCI and Queensland hold their line CA has no other option than to move the test out of Queensland and since both the teams are in Sydney they might as well play there. BCCI and govt of NSW have no problem playin or hosting the game in Sydney.

 

[Rajdeep]

India is welcome to Forfeit the Brisbane Test and its 30 World Test Championship points.

Which will basically guarantee that the World Test Championship Final will be Australia v New Zealand at Lords.

No captain who happens to be the best player in the side, no Shami who happens to be the 2nd best bowler, 2 debutants, 1 bowler gets injured in the middle of the test match, losing the toss, most umpire calls going against the team - Yet India beat Australian team on their own turf.

So its not a team to forefeit just because the test is in Gabba. Think you are mistaking it with some other teams...lol.

As I said, Indian players will not do another hard quarantine because it is unfair. Keep both the test matches in Gabba for all they care as long as they can be pardoned from quarantine.

 

[Devadwal]

Lol forfeit a match .this will be never ever going to happen with india .come out of your dream

 

[tyron_woodley]

Jeez India is desperate to not play a test at the Gabba. Bunch of cowards

Another inbred lmao. India is not scared. We are without 4 of our freaking best players. We still kicked Australia's butt last game and we actually played very well In the first game too. If not for dropped catches we would have kicked their butts in that game too.not even going to mention drs and lbw calls going Australia way. Cheating with runout calls etc.

If there is any team that can deviriginize Australia at Gabba, it's India. They have stopped Australia several times in the past when they went on a streak. Even with our under strength team we are capable.

 

[Junaids]

Pakistan, West Indies all did quarantine at the start of the tournament. No team has done mid tour hard quarantine. Its not right for players mental strength neither from practice point of view.

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You are confusing the tours of NZ with the tours of England.

England, Australia, Pakistan and the West Indies were all confined to their hotels last summer in England.

Biosecure bubbles are nothing new - other international teams have been living in them since the start of the pandemic.

For 5 weeks in Worcester and Derby the Pakistanis had to stay in 1 star hotels.

 

[Junaids]

Hum nope. Queensland is the one that’s changing what was agreed up on. It is understandable because they are doing what’s best for their constituents. At the same time Indian cricketers don’t have to abide by change of quarantine rules and can decline to do to Queensland. It’s up to CA to make the 4th test happen as they are the host. So if both BCCI and Queensland hold their line CA has no other option than to move the test out of Queensland and since both the teams are in Sydney they might as well play there. BCCI and govt of NSW have no problem playin or hosting the game in Sydney.

Absolute nonsense.

Queensland has never offered anyone unfettered access since the pandemic. It has always been explicit that if you come from a hot spot you are quarantined. I do live here you know! And I need a pass to return home from 500 metres inside NSW where I work.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Look India bad to whom? Pakistanis? Aussies? As if BCCI will care.

I think its a fairly well-established fact that BCCI has no shame and doesn't care. And its also fairly obvious that this will change nothing, every team will still want to play a series with India whenever they can. But that doesn't mean this whole thing won't further tarnish India/BCCI's image in the cricketing world, which already perceives it as a bully out to destroy the game. Something that is quite true.

 

[tyron_woodley]

Dont think he insulted Indians at all. He said if you cant follow the rules, which Indian players dont want to anyway (another hard quarantine), dont come to Queensland. Not sure where did you see any insult here.

The shadow minister is absolutely within his right to lay down the rules of his state. At the same token, Indian players also have rights to raise their concern regarding extra quarantine protocols which were not discussed prior to the series.

I dont see any insult here from anyone...lol.

Only n.z insulted paks.

Australia don't have the guts to do that with India. India will be more than happy to leave the country. Already spent enough days in quarantine. Aussies will find a solution to benefit both parties.

 

[tyron_woodley]

Absolute nonsense.

Queensland has never offered anyone unfettered access since the pandemic. It has always been explicit that if you come from a hot spot you are quarantined. I do live here you know! And I need a pass to return home from 500 metres inside NSW where I work.

This is true. I recently bought a golden retriever labrador from NSW. The tax driver had to wait 14 days quarantine the first time she moved across borders. But if you have already completed a quarantine before, you don't have to do it again as long as you get a access pass which my taxi driver received post 1st quarantine.

 

[Rajdeep]

You are confusing the tours of NZ with the tours of England.

England, Australia, Pakistan and the West Indies were all confined to their hotels last summer in England.

Biosecure bubbles are nothing new - other international teams have been living in them since the start of the pandemic.

For 5 weeks in Worcester and Derby the Pakistanis had to stay in 1 star hotels.

That is because ECB had no choice back then. Those tours happened at a time when there was no tier wise restrictions in place in Britain. So ECB could have shifted the matches to any venue but it would not have saved the isolation.

Situation is totally different in Australia. Border quarantine rules are in place only if people travelling to Queensland from NSW. But the same quarantine rules are not applied if people travelling from Victoria to NSW.

So CA has choice (unlike ECB) to move matches in venues where no restriction is required.

What is so tough to understand?

 

[Junaids]

Australia don't have the guts to do that with India. India will be more than happy to leave the country. Already spent enough days in quarantine. Aussies will find a solution to benefit both parties.

Even the Opposition - let alone the government - is United on this.

India is not welcome in Queensland if they refuse to follow the conditions for entry.

Either they follow the rules or they go away.

 

[Birdman]

Absolute nonsense.

Queensland has never offered anyone unfettered access since the pandemic. It has always been explicit that if you come from a hot spot you are quarantined. I do live here you know! And I need a pass to return home from 500 metres inside NSW where I work.

When did Sydney become a hot spot, before the series started or during? If it was before the series started CA should not have held a game in Sydney and then in Brisbane. If it happened during the series, bcci don’t have to agree to this quarantine because they did not agree to it in the first place. It is up to CA to resolve this, no reason for Indians to abide by this qt and play in Brisbane.n

 

[Rana]

Indian fans desperate to avoid The Gabba it seems...

 

[tyron_woodley]

Indian fans desperate to avoid The Gabba it seems...

More than happy to play there. Missing 4 players and still played well vs Australia..India isn't scared.

I would love to watch the team play at Gabba. I live in brisbane ofocurse.

But I don't care if they don't either.

 

[Space Cat]

To be fair I would probably wouldn't want to play at the Gabba ether. Better to move it to an easier venue.

 

[Junaids]

That is because ECB had no choice back then. Those tours happened at a time when there was no tier wise restrictions in place in Britain. So ECB could have shifted the matches to any venue but it would not have saved the isolation.

Situation is totally different in Australia. Border quarantine rules are in place only if people travelling to Queensland from NSW. But the same quarantine rules are not applied if people travelling from Victoria to NSW.

So CA has choice (unlike ECB) to move matches in venues where no restriction is required.

What is so tough to understand?

The border closures change all the time, according to where the outbreaks are.

At 3.30 pm on 31 December there were no restrictions on travelling from NSW to Victoria, and 100,000 Victorians were on holiday in NSW.

My sister-in-law, her husband and her daughter were getting drunk in Ballina, NSW. Then the Victorian government announced that due to the outbreak in Sydney, all Victorians had until midnight on 1 January to get home before the border closed.

They weren’t sober enough to drive until 5 am. And that’s when they had to set off on the 1,600 km drive home - with 19 hours to reach the state border.

The Indians need to understand that in Australia we are all making sacrifices to defeat the pandemic. I live in Queensland but work 500 metres south of the NSW border. It’s not a hotspot like Sydney so I can cross the border with a pass. Last Tuesday the 500 metre drive took me 4 hours.

Australian public opinion doesn’t care how much Indian TV pays for cricket rights. They won’t accept India being given special treatment - especially when the Aussies are subject to the same rules.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

I would if they spoke with respect for India. I never disrespect posters unless they berate the Indian team or people in general. I never go out of my way to disrespect non Indians.

There is banter and then there is outright rubbish fallacies being fabricated by non Indian posters. That is the trigger point.

India is not a holy cow that can't be disrespected. Learn to accept the fact that not everyone here will share your opinions and view-points, and everyone is entitled to theirs.

 

[Mesozoic]

Jeez India is desperate to not play a test at the Gabba. Bunch of cowards

Hmm. So I reckon Pakistan too were desperate to avoid the NZ tour and get deported back to Pakistan. Bunch of cowards! No?

 

[Junaids]

When did Sydney become a hot spot, before the series started or during? If it was before the series started CA should not have held a game in Sydney and then in Brisbane. If it happened during the series, bcci don’t have to agree to this quarantine because they did not agree to it in the first place. It is up to CA to resolve this, no reason for Indians to abide by this qt and play in Brisbane.n

The Sydney outbreak was detected in mid-December - between the Adelaide and Melbourne Tests.

Cricket teams and cricket authorities don’t get to set the rules for quarantine.

Here in Queensland the Chief Medical Officer Dr Jeanette Young sets the rules. Without government interference - which is why we have 0 active community cases in a population of 5.1 million.

It doesn’t matter at all who wants what. Dr Young decides.

Incidentally, this is only an issue because last week the NSW government misled Cricket Australia into thinking that the outbreak in Sydney was under control, at which point Cricket Australia confirmed the Sydney Test - which is the one which should have been moved.

 

[Rajdeep]

The border closures change all the time, according to where the outbreaks are.

At 3.30 pm on 31 December there were no restrictions on travelling from NSW to Victoria, and 100,000 Victorians were on holiday in NSW.

My sister-in-law, her husband and her daughter were getting drunk in Ballina, NSW. Then the Victorian government announced that due to the outbreak in Sydney, all Victorians had until midnight on 1 January to get home before the border closed.

They weren’t sober enough to drive until 5 am. And that’s when they had to set off on the 1,600 km drive home - with 19 hours to reach the state border.

The Indians need to understand that in Australia we are all making sacrifices to defeat the pandemic. I live in Queensland but work 500 metres south of the NSW border. It’s not a hotspot like Sydney so I can cross the border with a pass. Last Tuesday the 500 metre drive took me 4 hours.

Australian public opinion doesn’t care how much Indian TV pays for cricket rights. They won’t accept India being given special treatment - especially when the Aussies are subject to the same rules.

Lol...looks like you are deliberately not trying to understand and repeating yourself.

At 3.30 pm on 31 December there were no restrictions on travelling from NSW to Victoria, and 100,000 Victorians were on holiday in NSW.

First of all, based on the above you are agreeing that all these restrictions and border rules are changing on the go. So there goes your theory of BCCI agreed to these quarantine rules before the start of the series.

Second, no one is saying Indian players should not be subject to the host countries rules. Where is the question of special status coming up?

All that they are asking for, arrange the matches where border restriction and quarantine is not required. And this is totally possible considering the fact that all states in Australia have seperate quarantine rules unlike the situation UK was in last August.

 

[Birdman]

The Sydney outbreak was detected in mid-December - between the Adelaide and Melbourne Tests.

Cricket teams and cricket authorities don’t get to set the rules for quarantine.

Here in Queensland the Chief Medical Officer Dr Jeanette Young sets the rules. Without government interference - which is why we have 0 active community cases in a population of 5.1 million.

It doesn’t matter at all who wants what. Dr Young decides.

Incidentally, this is only an issue because last week the NSW government misled Cricket Australia into thinking that the outbreak in Sydney was under control, at which point Cricket Australia confirmed the Sydney Test - which is the one which should have been moved.

Well and dandy. Since CA is the host they are responsible for this mess. BCCI don’t have to agree to change in protocols which they agreed to before the series began. BCCI should not expect QL to change their qt protocol they have established to keep their citizens safe and at same time CA should not expect Indian players to agree to the change in qt procedures in Queensland. Only way to save face to CA is to play the last game in Sydney and move on.